O's/Twins

[TheDoyler23]

Daniel Cabrera (1-2, 5.79) Vs. Carlos Silva (2-0, 3.41)
Erik Bedard (3-1, 2.50) Vs. Brad Radke (3-3, 3.60)
Sidney Ponson (4-1, 5.50) Vs. Johan Santana (5-1, 2.88)

A good team wins this series and gets some momentum going into the road trip, especially since the first opponent on that trip is the scorching hot White Sox.

[Fan4life]

havent miss 1 game yet.
after many years..im actually smiling now.
All I ever wanted was a competitive team.
Good for the Os to finally get some sort of respect.
Brian R. biggest sleeper of the season so far.:cheers:

[TD_washingtonredskins]

You would definitely have to give the Twins the pitching edge. I just hope our bats come to life again for this series and we can outslug them. 2 of 3 would be great going into Chicago...and I hope Chicago keeps winning so their due for a couple losses by the time we get there.

[TheDoyler23]

yea, 2/3 against Minn and 2/2 against Chi would be great. Hell, I wouldn't even complain if we went 3-4 in this stretch. The BoSox are playing well though. They need to cool off already!

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Yeah, they seem to be just as hot as we are. We've won 11 out of 14 or something and I think they gained half a game during that stretch!

[Spaceman Spiff]

I'd crap myself if we could beat the hell out of Santana.

[aejm1400]

If these 3 guys can pitch like they did in thier last starts we should have a good shot at each game.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Tejada's jack was insane! Anyone know how far it went?

[PapaDRoc]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Tejada's jack was insane! Anyone know how far it went?

Miggy is such a stud. Also, Danny is pitching a great game. He has so far overpowered the Twins lineup. All these 3 up 3 down innings for Minnesota are sweet. Just hope he continues to pitch a great game.

I love how he jumps over the baseline after every inning.

[Spaceman Spiff]

man, he hit 99 in the 7th inning....

[Spaceman Spiff]

I also think Buck Martinez is a damn good color man. That knowledge he just dropped about the breaking ball was awesome...i learn so much listening to that guy.


nice strikeout cabrera!!

[Spaceman Spiff]

Man, he's making the twinkies look horrible!! 10 strikeouts!

he really needed this performance, hopefully he's back on track now

[mad4comp]

11 SO....WOW

[mad4comp]

Bedard had 12 SO.
Ponson had 8 SO.
Cabrera has 11 SO.

Im liking this pitching ALOT, ty Ray Miller!

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by mad4comp
Bedard had 12 SO.
Ponson had 8 SO.
Cabrera has 11 SO.

Im liking this pitching ALOT, ty Ray Miller!


10 bucks says if the starters get shelled in August, you'll be calling for Ray Millers head, like you did for EJ, Arenas, etc...

jk ;)

[mad4comp]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff



10 bucks says if the starters get shelled in August, you'll be calling for Ray Millers head, like you did for EJ, Arenas, etc...

jk ;)

:rolleyes:

[Metalhead]

Damn I love this team! The biggest thing is that amazing ability to bounce back after tough losses - and completely dominate. Yesterday was tough to swallow, but today was a little gem to come home to after class.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I really enjoy the way they take care of business more often than not in the opening games of series.

That's important because it gives you the luxury of needing just 1 out of 2 after that to win the series.

This was important since they face Radke and Johan next. If they can split these next two, they'll be in good shape going into Chicago.

[TheDoyler23]

The Twins are a good offense that doesn't strike out much. Cabrera just pounded the zone all day. How do you throw an 88 MPH curveball? That's just sick. Guys were reading heater all day and went right over that yacker. Remember when Cabrera was a one pitch starter last year? Not this year. I don't think he even USED a change today.

[Spaceman Spiff]

He was great. Hopefully he can reel off more starts like this...he's slated to go against chicago, right?

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
he's slated to go against chicago, right?

Cabrera's in the 3rd game of the 4 game series.

Remember when he was almost traded with Val Majewski for Derrick Lee? That deal fell through becuase Lee wanted a huge $ extention for a guy who wasn't a totally proven player.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Tejada's jack was insane! Anyone know how far it went?

425, and no doubt about it.

[aejm1400]

It's nice to see what Cabrera has done since he mechanic work with Ray. In two starts he's dropped his ERA from a 7.65 to a 4.50 by only giving up 1 run in 16 innings in those 2 starts with 19 K's overall. Even more impressive, he only walked 2 guys this time around.

If Cabrera and Bedard continue to progress the way they have this season, you could see our future 1-2 punch. Man this is exciting.

[aejm1400]

I was just reading the recap from the Sun, and they said that one of Cabrera's fastball was clocked at 100 on the stadium gun. I knew he could throw some heat, but the extra muscle he has put on is making him even stronger.

[galentjm]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff



10 bucks says if the starters get shelled in August, you'll be calling for Ray Millers head, like you did for EJ, Arenas, etc...

jk ;)

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Its funny because its true

[galentjm]

Originally posted by aejm1400
It's nice to see what Cabrera has done since he mechanic work with Ray. In two starts he's dropped his ERA from a 7.65 to a 4.50 by only giving up 1 run in 16 innings in those 2 starts with 19 K's overall. Even more impressive, he only walked 2 guys this time around.

If Cabrera and Bedard continue to progress the way they have this season, you could see our future 1-2 punch. Man this is exciting.

Agreed. I think we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg with Bedard and Cabrera. And if Maine, Penn and Loewen develop like the FO hopes they will we should be sitting pretty for years to come.

I just hope the Beattie and Flanagan don't try to package Bedard or Cabrera in any deadline deals. You know that any team we talk to is going to ask for one of them in return.

[Funkyalligator]

Yeah...Cabrera was throwing 97 in the 8th inning and the announcers were joking about how he has slowed down...

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by galentjm


Agreed. I think we're just seeing the tip of the iceberg with Bedard and Cabrera. And if Maine, Penn and Loewen develop like the FO hopes they will we should be sitting pretty for years to come.

I just hope the Beattie and Flanagan don''t try to package Bedard or Cabrera in any deadline deals. You know that any team we talk to is going to ask for one of them in return.

That would be a huge mistake. I think we have a good stable of young pitchers and we should try to keep as many as we can.

The only deal I can see us making at the deadline would be for a starter, so to trade one of those guys would probably not net us much of a gain...

:cheers:

[galentjm]

Originally posted by TD_washingtonredskins


That would be a huge mistake. I think we have a good stable of young pitchers and we should try to keep as many as we can.

The only deal I can see us making at the deadline would be for a starter, so to trade one of those guys would probably not net us much of a gain...

:cheers:

With revenue sharing allowing the small market teams to keep their budding stars (i.e. Santana, Sheets, Sabathia, etc.) there just aren't many quality starters that will be available come July. I think the best the O's can hope for in terms of acquiring a starter is for a team that has fallen out of the race to unload a vet.

Don't be surprised if the O's upgrade their offense at the deadline. Raffy just isn't getting it done and simply can't keep this futility up and remain fifth in the order. Gibby's bat is starting to heat up but I think Maz is still uncomfortable with him defensively at 1B. And with Sosa dinged up he has to be in RF.

Maybe the Rockies will get serious about trading Helton, and I think Beattie and Flanagan would be fools not to inquire about the availability of Mike Sweeney.

[TheDoyler23]

If the O's trade a young pitcher, it's gonna be Maine before anyone else.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

galentjm,

If you add Helton or Sweeney to this offense, that's just plain scary!

[galentjm]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23
If the O's trade a young pitcher, it's gonna be Maine before anyone else.

I agree. He's talented and is more major league ready than Penn or Loewen. Teams will want a pitcher that is at most a year away from stepping into a rotation. I don't think you can honestly say that about Penn at this point, and you certainly can't about Loewen.

[galentjm]

Originally posted by TD_washingtonredskins
galentjm,

If you add Helton or Sweeney to this offense, that's just plain scary!

No doubt. Just think about the numbers this team would be putting up had Delgado signed with the O's.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by galentjm


No doubt. Just think about the numbers this team would be putting up had Delgado signed with the O's.

I love Raffy and all, but he's definitely over the hill. I wish Gibbons could take over that position from him full-time.

[mad4comp]

Oh man...10 hr's for Brob..

[number1team]

This ump sucks!

[Skins4SB]

Kline is starting to piss me off.

[Metalhead]

Wow....I don't think I've ever seen an ending to a game like that in any sport. Matos out, the balk, Cuddyer's (I think it was him) strikeout non-call...hell, even Surhoff's at bat and those called strikes....:puke:

All that just sapped any energy out of this team, Kline's homers didn't matter at that point.

[TheDoyler23]

UGH..You can't make errors like that and win. And what was with that strikeout? The Twins guy ran towards first and the ump said he hit it? The hell? If I knew that I got a slice of the ball then I'm sure as hech not bolting down the line. UGH... Just a crappy game overall, besides Bedard's wasted good outing.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I couldn't watch the game. How did the O's fall apart in the bottom of the 8th. I saw that they had two on and none out and they got nothing out of it. Thanks.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by TD_washingtonredskins
I couldn't watch the game. How did the O's fall apart in the bottom of the 8th. I saw that they had two on and none out and they got nothing out of it. Thanks.

Matos, attempting to bunt, was hit on the hand. Although he was attempting to get away from the inside pitch, the UMP blew the call anyway and called it a foul ball. Broken finger for Matos. With Newhan already on base as a pinch runner for Raffy, Gil made a horrible bunt where they got the lead runner. The inning fizzled from there. It should have been bases loaded and no outs. 2 Games with horrible blown calls in 3 days. grrrrrrr.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Wow, that sucks.

How long is Matos out? I remember the radio announcers were just commenting that he's been able to stay healthy this year....

[Spaceman Spiff]

Early reports say that Matos will be out for about 6 weeks.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by TD_washingtonredskins
Wow, that sucks.

How long is Matos out? I remember the radio announcers were just commenting that he's been able to stay healthy this year....

6 weeks. And is especially stinks cause Val Majewski is out for the year with a torn Labrum. He probably would have been a very decent replacement. @ Least the birds can but Newhan out there in center and have some flexability with Gibbons. Gibby was a pretty good RF last year despite not having great speed.

The Mets are still shopping Mike Cameron, though I wouldn't want to give up a whole lot for him. D-wise, he's better than any other O's outfielder.

It's also time for Larry Bigbie to step up and be the playwer he was in 2003. The Organization is getting really annoyed with his lack of production.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23


6 weeks. And is especially stinks cause Val Majewski is out for the year with a torn Labrum. He probably would have been a very decent replacement. @ Least the birds can but Newhan out there in center and have some flexability with Gibbons. Gibby was a pretty good RF last year despite not having great speed.

The Mets are still shopping Mike Cameron, though I wouldn't want to give up a whole lot for him. D-wise, he's better than any other O's outfielder.

It's also time for Larry Bigbie to step up and be the playwer he was in 2003. The Organization is getting really annoyed with his lack of production.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind having Bigbie play CF and stick Newhan and BJ in left.

Tough break (no pun intended) for Luis.

[Spaceman Spiff]

That game last night pissed me off. Those umpires
royally screwed us.

[TheDoyler23]

2-1 O's through 2. 2, 2 out RBI doubles by Gomez and Gibbons.

[mad4comp]

PONSON SUCKS...holy crap im watching him pitch and its horrendous. He cant strike anybody out, i wonder why we matched him up with Santana, why couldnt it have been Bedard vs Santana, that woulda been a better matchup.

Trade poson now......he had a 2-1 lead and he cant even hold it for a half an inning. Useless fata**.

[mad4comp]

And now thats 2 wild pitches in a row. Send him down to the minors until he loses weight.

[mad4comp]

And now he throws a pitch away and they get the lead by 3-2. Ponson please head back to Aruba you worthless tub of lard. Had a 2-1 lead and you give up 2 runs that same inning ? :/

[Maxito]

is the game on tv today, I am watching the gameday on the orioles homepage. It really sux

3 errors in the first 4 innings is really sad. We need to play better defense.

[mad4comp]

Originally posted by Maxito
is the game on tv today, I am watching the gameday on the orioles homepage. It really sux

3 errors in the first 4 innings is really sad. We need to play better defense.

Im watching MLB.tv...although its blacked out, i use a Proxy to bypass it.

BTW their defense was pretty horrendous too.

[TheDoyler23]

Wild pitch by Santana, 4-4 game.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

That's very odd that both pitchers have given away a run on wild pitches.

[number1team]

Well, Ponson has only two ER this game so you can't say it was that bad an outing. Our defense is 10X worse than Ponson.
Sunday: 4 errors
Monday- 0 errors
Tuesday- 2 errors
Today- 3 errors

Horrendus!

[TheDoyler23]

Yea, the D has some serious issues recently, but I don't see it staying this bad.

Double by Tejada and Lopez walks, 2 on, no out.

[TheDoyler23]

BJ "Pro" Surhoff slaps a single down the line. 5-4 O's, still no out and Lopez is being taken out for the speedy Newhan.

[TheDoyler23]

Bases loaded. Gibby flies out, but not deep enough to score.

[TheDoyler23]

Gil grounds out, Twins get to home for one. Bases still loaded, Roberts up.

[aejm1400]

I'll keep getting my updates here. You are currently ahead of the ganecast updates...lol.

[TheDoyler23]

Roberts grounds to third, Tiffy's throw to first is up the line and they don't get the out!

[TheDoyler23]

2-0 to Bigbie...Ryan warming in the pen.

[TheDoyler23]

2-2 to Bigbie

[TheDoyler23]

Biggs walks to firce in a run 7-4 Birds. Pitching change coming.

[TheDoyler23]

They bring in Mulholland to face Mora.

[TheDoyler23]

2-2 to Mora

[TheDoyler23]

3-2

[TheDoyler23]

Mora hits a chopper to third to end the inning. They batted around sending 9 to the plate and have a 7-4 lead. Ponson has only throwing 91 pitches, but BJ Ryan seems ready to come in.

[Spaceman Spiff]

6-4 bottom of the 8th :)

[TheDoyler23]

Mornieu hits a double off BJ Ryan to start the 9th. It was hit hard and Reed couldn't cut it off before getting to the wall.

[TheDoyler23]

Hunter hits a humpback liner to Tejada. 1 away.

[TheDoyler23]

Ryan walks Jones to put the tying run to the plate.

[TheDoyler23]

Ryan K's Lew Ford. 2 away

[TheDoyler23]

LeCroy in as a pinch hitter

[TheDoyler23]

Grounder to Roberts. BALLGAME. O's get 2/3 against the hot Twins.

On to Chicago we go!

[aejm1400]

Looks like BJ locked down his 9th save of the year. Ponson picks up his 5th win too.

Now let's hope we can at least get a split in Chicago.

[TheDoyler23]

Chi has only played 9 games against teams with winning records. We'll see what happens when a good team locks up with them for 4 games(though a split or better would be good). Go O's!