O's/Red Sox 3

[TheDoyler23]

They swept us in 2, we swept them in two. This series has 4 games due to a rain out in Boston.

Lopez Vs. Arroyo
Cabrera Vs. Miller
Ponson Vs. Wakefield
Penn Vs. Clement

After this series against Det...I just don't know anymore. Lopez and Arroyo could be a pitchers duel. Cab and Miller could be a slugfest and same for Ponson and Wakefield. Clement is unbeaten this year pitching against a guy making his second start. Hopefully we'll get the reverse-lock going.

I'ms sure the team had an interesting flight north today after blowing it against the Tigers. They seemed to always be one hit away in every game. Perhaps things will click in Boston? I hope.

HOW MANY TIMES DID WE HAVE RISP, Less than 2 outs, and not score?

2-2 split would be nice. Every starter needs ot get it going, and hopefully the bats will get it done.

[Redskin4ever]

I like our chances. I'm not convinced that the Redsox are that much better than the O's. When I watch them or the Yanks, I don't fear them like I used to. I believe the O's can hang in there with either of them.

This series could be a big statement, one way or the other.

[TheDoyler23]

I'm pretty sure that Miguel Tejada didn't cry into his oatmeal this morning. I think he'll be ready to play and fire up this team in Boston.

[jaxskins]

Someone better fire them up after that abismal detroit series.

[Spaceman Spiff]

The Sox bats are really hot, our pitching hasn't been the best lately. I'm trying to be positive here but I think we'll split at best. Hopefully Sosa gets his ass in gear on this road trip.

[TheDoyler23]

1-0 after one.

[TheDoyler23]

2-0 after 2. Both O's innings have ended on plays at the plate. Lets get some more!

[SRVFan72]

GRRRAAAAAANDDDD SALAMI BABY!!!!

[TheDoyler23]

NEWHAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SRVFan72]

Doyler, we the only two in here?

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by SRVFan72
Doyler, we the only two in here?

For now. People come and go. Glad to see Miggy is ok. I alnost fainted when he took that tumble last inning.

Rodrigo is looking pretty good, too!

[SRVFan72]

yeah, if miggy had gone down, the hopes of being in first into late June would have been ALOT slimmer....

[SRVFan72]

and i forgot to change my fantasy lineup so i wont get the RBI from Palmiero....

[Walking Deadman]

Nice to see Newhan is starting to hit like he did last year.

Last year, the man was a beast at the plate.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by goskins
Nice to see Newhan is starting to hit like he did last year.

Last year, the man was a beast at the plate.

Certainly. Though he's a first ball fastball hitter, he was looking for Arroyo's best pitch, the curveball. He didn't get it in enough.

Hang 'em and bang 'em.

[SRVFan72]

Yeah, being in Atlanta limits my ability to see my birds...but i gotta say, Newhan is a scrappy little bastard...I like him

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by SRVFan72
Yeah, being in Atlanta limits my ability to see my birds...but i gotta say, Newhan is a scrappy little bastard...I like him

They are on ESPN or ESPN 2 for the first 3 games of the series.

[SRVFan72]

Thank goodness......down here, im a little tired of the Braves....

[Spaceman Spiff]

I....stand corrected.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Whats up? R-lo can't throw a strike now?

[TheDoyler23]

3 hits in 6 innings with 5 K's. Sweet!

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23
3 hits in 6 innings with 5 K's. Sweet!

Yeah, he had me scared for a minute there.


Looks like he's heating up, this is what we need in the wake of Bedard landing on the DL.

[TheDoyler23]

Why does Olerud ger second on fan interfearance? Sosa was shading that way and Olerud can't run at all!

[TheDoyler23]

BJ looked safe on that groundout.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Nice Gibbons!

[Spaceman Spiff]

And Newhan! hopefully he's returning to last years form!!

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
And Newhan! hopefully he's returning to last years form!!

Doesn't look like Fioentino's gonna step in the box this series. :laugh:

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23


Doesn't look like Fioentino's gonna step in the box this series. :laugh:

Good, maybe he should go back to the high scho...er, double A team where we got him from.

[TheDoyler23]

8-1. shoulda been out of the inning.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yikes, why was Mora trying to stretch it? not like we need the run...

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Yikes, why was Mora trying to stretch it? not like we need the run...

Manny made a hell of a play to get him. oh well.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23


Manny made a hell of a play to get him. oh well.

Yeah, he did. Didn't know he lead the Sox in assists. I guess he suprises a lot of people.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Good, hopefully the Sox left all their offense in the Bronx. And hopefully we're on our way back to a hot two week span.

[galentjm]

With this lineup we can't stay in a slump for very long. This team could have rolled over after getting swept by Detroit, but they shrugged it off and cooled a very hot team. The surprises just keep on coming.

Its no longer a fluke, this team simply hits better on the road. Let's hope we continue that trend during this crucial road trip.

[TheDoyler23]

The O's will expand on their home record soon. The ball doesn't carry well till mid-June. Expect a offensive surge once they get back from this roadtrip.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

That was a big win to start the series. When you lose 3 in a row to the Tigers, you need to come back with a solid effort and we had this game throughout.

I think we really need to take 3 out of 4 in this series (even though that is asking a lot on the road).

[aejm1400]

I was happy to see all the continued husstle despite getting thrown out at the plate. That's how I want to see our team play.

It's nice to see that we are continuing to be a very good road team.

[number1team]

I'm praying for a split

[mad4comp]

Anyone else starting to hate mazzili ? All this winning is masking his stupidity, he is not a good manager. He has no clue as to how to handle a Bullpen and does not know when to tell players to steal or not steal and the fact that he does not argue is really gettin to me. Frank Robinson argues like every call and gets an overturn here and there, and Mazz just sits his fat a** on the bench and leisurely takes his time to get to the field, and says a word and takes a seat like a B*tch.

Send him back to the Yanks and promote Ray Miller to Manager.

[mad4comp]

Oh and if he could take Treblehorn back with him, thatd be great.

[TheDoyler23]

I think Mazz has done pretty good. His pen management has not been great, but that's something that will improve with more and more experience.

Yes, he doesn't argue a bad call for very long. He's like Torre, his mentor. There are times where he's agrued a little longer than comfortable and he could have been tossed but wasn't. One such occasions was on a called strike 3 to BJ. Mazz argued for a good minute, then came back to him to get the last word.

Ray Miller is a great pitching coach, but look at his record as a manager. He doesn't cut it.

And I don't have anything against Trebs. He was right 2/3 times last night (though Tejada was called out the first time). The best 3rd base coaches are the ones who aren't afraid to be aggressive.

[TheDoyler23]

Were not getting much luck on offense. Gibby got robbed of a hit and BJ's laser liner DP. Were up 1-0 though.

[mad4comp]

Ty Mazz for keeping Cy-Cabrera in there for this long, even i could have called those three runs after the first 2 walks.

GG Mazz....of all people why did we go and hire this dousche ? Sooooo Many other capable Managers and we pick the ex-yankee.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Mad4comp...you gonna be calling Gibbs stupid when the Redskins have a winning record this year? First EJ, now Mazzilli...

[TheDoyler23]

Way tp get back on the horse, Steve Reed. Giving up one run in a bases loaded-no outs situation is great given the circumstance. LETS GET SOME RUNS!

[TheDoyler23]

I know that I'm subjective, but things just didn't go out way tonight. We tagged some shots that ended up being lazy fly balls and they got some outs on some great plays. @ Least Reed dug in in that bases loaded jam and kept it close. We'll win one of the next to for the split. Lets get them tomorrow.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Well, thats the game.

Aside from Cabrera falling apart there, we were in this game.

I hate to say it, but we looked so flat out there tonight. And against Detroit this weekend, too. We started off the season with a bang, and like I said, hate to say it but I see flatness seeping in. The vibe isn't there anymore. I don't know if the players feel that, but thats what I see when I watch these games. The Yankees and Sox are hungry and they're doing something about it, they're surging. We're sitting atop the East fat and happy when we can't afford to be. And we can't let this feeling seep in especially when members from another team are calling us out, saying we're soft and not legit.

Sosa needs to get his **** together, he would be a huge shot in the arm for us, no pun intended. I don't want to hear crap about injuries. Yeah, Lopez is a loss, but that's just one bat, it's not like our lineup doesn't have many. Yeah, Bedard is a loss for these next few weeks, but come on, he doesn't play every day, there's only so much he can do. This is where we have to dig down and people need to buck up and pull more than their fair share of the load. Only Tejada, Roberts and recently Raffy have been doing that.

I dunno, sorry, i'm ranting, but i'm distraught after this loss. I don't feel good and there's no reason why the rest of us shouldn't feel good after that one, either.

[TheDoyler23]

Every. Loss. Hurts. Some more than others.

Even if they go 91-71 (my preseason guess), thats 71 times. Though a Skins loss carries for most of the week, there's always a game tomorrow in baseball.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23
Every. Loss. Hurts. Some more than others.

Even if they go 91-71 (my preseason guess), thats 71 times. Though a Skins loss carries for most of the week, there's always a game tomorrow in baseball.

I know, i know, i know. And I agree.

It's just the culmination of this one on top of the sweep by the Tigers. We're not the world beaters we were a month ago. and its starting to show, thats all i'm saying.

[PapaDRoc]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23
Every. Loss. Hurts. Some more than others.

Even if they go 91-71 (my preseason guess), thats 71 times. Though a Skins loss carries for most of the week, there's always a game tomorrow in baseball.

I feel your pain. But, there IS another game tomorrow.

So don't worry fellas, hopefully the O's will win tomorrow. Matchup is Ponson vs. Wakefield. Could be a high scoring game...

Go O's!!

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff


I know, i know, i know. And I agree.

It's just the culmination of this one on top of the sweep by the Tigers. We're not the world beaters we were a month ago. and its starting to show, thats all i'm saying.


Yea, we need somone to pick this team up. Tejada can't do it everyday. They hit some balls hard though and the wind blew straight in. On a normal night, Gibbons would have had 2 dingers. Somebody is gonna win it for us tomorrow. I really believe that if this team is gonna go to the playoffs, a big win to hang their hats on needs to come soon, and kick off the month of May.

It's a long season, and the O's have been treading water recently. Hopefully something good will happen.

[SamSneed36]

Just hate to see the Yankees trash talkin the O's, saying they arent a factor, that they will fall apart. Then see the Yanks win again and again and the O's drop 3 in a row and then crumble tonight

[TheDoyler23]

At least the Yanks lost to the Royals tonight. I'm sure they'll take the other two, but it's still nice.

Karma? They talk trash about the O's, lose to the Sox, then just got beat by the Royals.

[galentjm]

gotta give credit where credit is due. Miller didn't have great stuff, but he pitched well enough to get the win. He scattered those five hits and never really allowed us to get a rally going.

I agree that Sosa needs to starting hitting the ball pronto. He's swinging at bad pitches, getting fooled far too often, and generally appears lost at the plate. Players switching leagues always have an adjustment period which most "experts" claim lasts around 150 ABs. Sosa is closing in on that mark, so hopefully he'll finally settle in and start mashing.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff

I hate to say it, but we looked so flat out there tonight. And against Detroit this weekend, too. We started off the season with a bang, and like I said, hate to say it but I see flatness seeping in. The vibe isn't there anymore. I don't know if the players feel that, but thats what I see when I watch these games. The Yankees and Sox are hungry and they're doing something about it, they're surging. We're sitting atop the East fat and happy when we can't afford to be. And we can't let this feeling seep in especially when members from another team are calling us out, saying we're soft and not legit.



The only thing that I can say to this is that it's a 162-game schedule. It would be impossible to come the ballpark with the same intensity for the 5 months these guys play. I think we have enough winners on this team to get them firing on all cylinders again when need be. Look how we responded to the 3-game sweep vs. Detroit!

[TheDoyler23]

Sid has a decent first by getting the DP after a Damon seeing eye single, pitches around Ortiz, and K's ManRam.

[TheDoyler23]

Hail to the Chief! 3 run dinger with 2 on and 2 out!

[Spaceman Spiff]

Holy **** i can't believe Gil just hit a home run.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Holy **** i can't believe Gil just hit a home run.

Talk about a boost. I bet Gil doesn't want to see his playing time slip to Fasano.

[TheDoyler23]

Nice cutoff by Newhan to prevent that double. That was a FAT pitch, Sid.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23


Talk about a boost. I bet Gil doesn't want to see his playing time slip to Fasano.

Hopefully Gil realizes that this stretch with Javy out means its time to earn a spot...

[TheDoyler23]

Sid's cutter/2-seam is really moving today. They're popping everything up.

[SamSneed36]

damn nice shot

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yeah, thats a dinger, off the top of the wall :)

[TheDoyler23]

Top of the wall and over is a DINGER.

[TheDoyler23]

SAMMY!

[SamSneed36]

holyrap sosa hit one out

[Spaceman Spiff]

Back to back, hopefully this is where Sosa finds his groove...5-0!

[TheDoyler23]

Get out the AIR RAID Siren!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SamSneed36]

FINSIH UR PLAYS PALMERO

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by SamSneed36
FINSIH UR PLAYS PALMERO

Yea, he wasn't running hard at all and they almost got him after the bobble. Look @ Newhan..he runs everything super hard.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Can't believe Ponson gets that awesome run support and his record is what it is.

[SamSneed36]

Doesnt always get great run support though, does he?

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Can't believe Ponson gets that awesome run support and his record is what it is.

Sid pitches well in every 4th start. He goes: Rocked, ok, ok, great. It's an "Orioles Hangout" theory, not mine.

1-2-3 in the third for the Sox. Sid's 2-seam is really good today, and He's such a better pitcher with nobody on base. It allows for the hitch in his windup.

[Spaceman Spiff]

This season he has. He's just sucked too much to turn all the runs we score for him into wins. Bullpen might have blown one, too, I think.

[SamSneed36]

i see

[TheDoyler23]

Dang, 2 good lookingballs that got caught. Gil almost had a blopped and Newhan hit a rocket to first. Lets go Sid! Keep it up!

[Spaceman Spiff]

:doh:

[SamSneed36]

Ponsons losin it

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by SamSneed36
Ponsons losin it

He made a good pitch to Manny who just got lucky.

[SamSneed36]

common cabt affird basesloaded no outs

[SamSneed36]

there we go

[TheDoyler23]

Nice pitch, Sid. Lets get 2.

[SamSneed36]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23


He made a good pitch to Manny who just got lucky.

may have been a good pitch but the pitch before it looked like a walk, ponson got lucky

[SamSneed36]

awww cose woulda been nice

[Spaceman Spiff]

Can't believe Varitek just beat that out....easy to double him up, but that ball was weakly hit...

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by SamSneed36


may have been a good pitch but the pitch before it looked like a walk, ponson got lucky

The ball called 2-1 was a better than the 3-1 strike. Go figure. 2 Ayway, lets get outta this!

[SamSneed36]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Can't believe Varitek just beat that out....easy to double him up, but that ball was weakly hit...

That and Sid aint the most nimble of fielders

[SamSneed36]

atta way guys

[TheDoyler23]

Listen to the BOOs from RSN.....

[Spaceman Spiff]

way to get out of it....lets tack on 5 more...

[SamSneed36]

Did they play that Tessie song constantly before MVP baseball came out?

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Can't believe Varitek just beat that out....easy to double him up, but that ball was weakly hit...

Slow tapper to the pitcher, who has to throw to short..I'd rather sid take that extra step OFF the mound than throw it into CG. Tek was running hard not wanting to end the inning.

And Miggy has a really good arm but NOT a very fast release.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Dunno, I've never heard it before that game came out.

[SamSneed36]

Mora really wants to smack one doesnt he

[TheDoyler23]

I think I know why Mirabelli catches Wakefield. Tek is having issues.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Tejada is killing it tonight...

[SamSneed36]

Tejada carries the O's

[TheDoyler23]

(Kelli Johnson is like 8 feet tall)

[Spaceman Spiff]

Man, if I had a dollar for every time I've seen Sosa roll one over to the left side of the infield...

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Man, if I had a dollar for every time I've seen Sosa roll one over to the left side of the infield...

Everyone pitches low and away to him since he refuses to go with the pitch.

[SamSneed36]

niiiiiiiice

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23


Everyone pitches low and away to him since he refuses to go with the pitch.

I know, you'd think a professional hitter would do it...too much pride to slap a hit to rightfield, I guess.....


BJ is one of my alltime favorite Orioles, that dude is clutch.

[TheDoyler23]

Tejada just won't stop.

Can't stop.

Lets go Gibby!

[TheDoyler23]

Why is Bronson Arroyo warming up?

[Spaceman Spiff]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23
Why is Bronson Arroyo warming up?

Didn't get enough work in his previous start? Not sure myself.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff


Didn't get enough work in his previous start? Not sure myself.

Perhaps he has a scheduled side session tomorrow. If Gibby had knocked one out then Arroyo could have come in for a few innings. That's my guess. It was just a weird thing to see.

[TheDoyler23]

Gotta love those 1 pitch outs.

[SamSneed36]

itd be so embarrasing to muff the easy underhand toss, have it land like two feet short

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by SamSneed36
itd be so embarrasing to muff the easy underhand toss, have it land like two feet short

Or what Cabrera did yesterday.

[SamSneed36]

i mssed that what happened

[TheDoyler23]

5 innings, 59 pitches. I like that.

He's getting a good snap on that cruve too. He usually bounces one or two off the plate in the first inning then never throws it again. Same thing in his change, which makes his a 2 pitch guy, and completely hittable.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by SamSneed36
i mssed that what happened

He got a comebacker, then threw into the dirt, a good 5 feet up the line. He was 45 feet away when it happened..it would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[SamSneed36]

haha o yea i did see that forgot

[SamSneed36]

Back in highschool i got a sharp grounder hit back right up the middle, i snagged the ball but it was wedged between the fingers, couldnt get it out in time to make a throw.

[TheDoyler23]

I like Trebs, but come on man, were ripping this guy.

[TheDoyler23]

Melmo is a pimp. Bring in Arroyo. We'll put a couple on him, too.

[TheDoyler23]

Another quiet innings for the Sox.

[SamSneed36]

games kinda slowed down

[TheDoyler23]

tough error for Miggie.

[TheDoyler23]

Bases loaded, no outs. *GULP*

Keep them to 2 or less.

[SamSneed36]

ok i spoke too soon on the slow game comment. Yea that was a tough error

[SamSneed36]

wow nice play BJ wow that was great

[TheDoyler23]

BJ gets great jumps, even on hard hit balls.

[TheDoyler23]

2 Away. Lets go Sid!

[Spaceman Spiff]

BJ is way underrated...always has been.

[SamSneed36]

gutsy pitch

[Spaceman Spiff]

Biggest pitch of the game here

[TheDoyler23]

He overthrew that.

[SamSneed36]

he better not screw it all with a bad pitch to manny

[mad4comp]

Um....why is the Pig Unit still pitching ?

[Spaceman Spiff]

No lead is safe in Fenway

[TheDoyler23]

Get him outta there.

[mad4comp]

And Sir pig gives up 2 runs, if he is still pitching after that, Mazz should just head up to NY and stay there.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Stick a fork in his fat belly.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by mad4comp
And Sir pig gives up 2 runs, if he is still pitching after that, Mazz should just head up to NY and stay there.

Kline's coming in to go after Nixon.

Do bad Ponson just couldn't get Ortiz or Manny out, especially after getting the first 2 outs with the bases loaded.

[TheDoyler23]

Where was that 3-2 pitch?

[TheDoyler23]

Where is the strike zone?

[TheDoyler23]

Boston gets 3 and the boo birds are back out there?

wow

[Spaceman Spiff]

Gil has two hits....unreal.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by Spaceman Spiff
Gil has two hits....unreal.

He's a .240 or so hitter when he gets consistant AB's.

[TheDoyler23]

You gotta be kidding me......

[TheDoyler23]

2 Away. Lets get this to the 9th.

[SamSneed36]

haha what was that look mora gave after he caught the ball

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by SamSneed36
haha what was that look mora gave after he caught the ball

He probably lost it in the lights for a second. It didn't matter anyway since the infield fly rule was in effect.

[TheDoyler23]

How about Julio! man. Gomez buckner's the DP ball that would have ended the inning and he MANS UP and gets Johnny (Batting 350) Damon and the craft Rentiria out.

BJ is ready to shut this one down.

[SamSneed36]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23


He probably lost it in the lights for a second. It didn't matter anyway since the infield fly rule was in effect.

looked likw he was making sure the ump called it an out, like the ump had missed an obvious call earlier or something

[Spaceman Spiff]

Whats Tejada have...3 doubles, a homer? He's sick. If the O's keep this up, he's the MVP.

[TheDoyler23]

4 Hit night for Miggy.

If Sosa can get a sac fly we may not need BJ at all.

[TheDoyler23]

Bases loaded for Raffy. Call to the bullpen for a lefty reliever.

(Royals up 3-0 on the Yankees in the 7th)

[Spaceman Spiff]

Ramierez is such a slackass on defense. If i was the pitcher, I'd beat his ass for that.

[TheDoyler23]

Raffy Palmiero, professional hitter.

[TheDoyler23]

BJ fouls off 4 pitches, then dumps a fly ball to center for the sack fly. BJ is the man.

[TheDoyler23]

We got the split, now wedge out a lead against the bosox and the AL east.

Hopefully the reverse lock is on for Penn against unbeaten Clement.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Yeah, big game tomorrow...

AND the yankees are BEING SHUT OUT by the Royals right now in the 9th inning....

[number1team]

Very good. Hell yeah Royals!

[TheDoyler23]

Royals win 3-1. Williams goes deep and Cano hits a double but Jetuh K's to end the game.

[aejm1400]

Even better, we gain a game on everyteam in the division(Blue Jays are in 3rd).

It's great to see the bats come out especially when it's clutch 2 out hits like Gil had. Gil was 5-10 againest Wakefield before tonight, thus the reason why he got the start.

Here's hoping Penn comes with a solid 5-6 innings tomorrow.

[mad4comp]

Originally posted by aejm1400


Here's hoping Penn comes with a solid 5-6 innings tomorrow.

Heres to hoping Mazz doesnt screw up the game with his atrocious BP managing.

[galentjm]

Originally posted by mad4comp


Heres to hoping Mazz doesnt screw up the game with his atrocious BP managing.

psst.....smile, its june and we're still in first place. I'm guessing you're a glass is half empty kind of guy, huh?

All jokes aside, what leads you to believe that Maz mismanages the bullpen?

[mad4comp]

Originally posted by galentjm




All jokes aside, what leads you to believe that Maz mismanages the bullpen?

Uhhhh.....

Did you watch the 7th inning yetsterday ?

[TD_washingtonredskins]

The fact is, there's no telling what today will be like with Penn on the hill. Maybe he'll benefit from the Sox not having a scouting report on him. Or maybe he'll look like a young pitcher and the game will be over by the 3rd.

At least we went into Boston on the heels of a 3 game losing streak and clinched a split by game 3!!

[galentjm]

Originally posted by mad4comp


Uhhhh.....

Did you watch the 7th inning yetsterday ?

Yeah, I watched the entire game. The sox scored three runs, so what. You still haven't mentioned what your beef is.

Do you think he left Ponson in too long? You could say Maz should have pulled Ponson after he walked Mueller and Bellhorn singled to load the bases, but at the point the guy was still pitching a shut out. He HAS to let him try to work his way out of trouble, Ponson deserved as much. Not to mention the O's had a seven run lead at that point.

Even after Ponson let in the first run (unearned at that) on Damon's sac fly, Ponson promptly retired Renteria and quickly got ahead of Ortiz before walking him on a full count. Manny then knocked in the next two runs on a single to center and Maz correctly pulled Ponson. But last I checked Manny is a pretty solid hitter and isn't exactly an easy out. I don't have a problem with that decision.

Do you think he brought in the wrong guy? Nixon was due next and has trouble hitting lefties, outside of BJ Ryan the seldom used John Parrish is the only other lefty reliever on the roster, thus it is a no-brainer to bring in Kline. Payton pinch hit only after Kline was brought in. Kline walked Payton to load the bases, and once again Maz did the right thing and yanked Kline for Williams. Williams came in and got the last out.

So lets recap. The world champion Redsox, who have a very formidable lineup, had the bases loaded not once (with no outs), not twice, but three times in the inning, and they managed only 3 runs. I'll take that any day of the week.

Good hitting teams score runs, the mark of a good bullpen is the ability to prevent the "big" inning and that is exactly what the O's did last night.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by mad4comp
Heres to hoping Mazz doesnt screw up the game with his atrocious BP managing.

I didn't disagree with any of his noves besides MAYBE leaving hm in against Ortiz, who SUCKS against lefty pitching. But with Sid getting 2 outs, you don't take him out unless he actually warrants being yanked, especially with a what, 7 run lead?

What proves me right is tht manny got sawed off with his single. Ponson rode a 2-seam right under his fists and Manny got lucky.

The strike zone VANASHED when Kline came in andsince Millar destroyes lefty pitchers, Williams was the right move.

He put Julio in for the 8th since he wanted to be able to bring in Williams today if needed.

Baldwin closed it out and is probably available today as well.

[galentjm]

Gibby gets that run back for us, hitting his 9th dinger of the year. Good job picking up the kid after he let in a run in the first.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by galentjm
Gibby gets that run back for us, hitting his 9th dinger of the year. Good job picking up the kid after he let in a run in the first.

It would have been his 11th if it weren't for Nook Logan!

[galentjm]

Nice 1-2-3 inning for Penn.

[TheDoyler23]

Fasano can not hit a breaking pitch.

[galentjm]

Doyler,
How is Penn's command thus far? I'm at work and am looking at the game cast on ESPN.com.

[TheDoyler23]

Originally posted by galentjm
Doyler,
How is Penn's command thus far? I'm at work and am looking at the game cast on ESPN.com.

He's getting his curve over pretty well, but his changeup is inconsistant and this ump is not giving much low or off the corners.

[galentjm]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23


He's getting his curve over pretty well, but his changeup is inconsistant and this ump is not giving much low or off the corners.

I haven't physically seen him pitch yet (missed the DET game) but I keep hearing he has a major league curve.

Kid is 20 years old and pitching at Fenway. Gotta be an amazing feeling.

[TheDoyler23]

Penn threw a great curve to get rentaria to bounce out. He set up that same pitch on the outer half earlier in the count, then came inside with it and he hit a bouncer to Melmo. This kid has something. Perhaps not an impact player this year, but a STRONG canidate to make the rotation next year.

[galentjm]

Got out of trouble there. Heart of the lineup coming up let's put something together here.

[TheDoyler23]

first and third for gibby, 2 outs.

[TheDoyler23]

Damn... Grounder up the middle. he swung over the top of it and hit a roller. Where are all the people who are gonna argue that Trems SHOULD have sent Raffy with 2 outs?

[TheDoyler23]

Damn...left it up and over the plate fo Vartiek. 3-1.

[TheDoyler23]

Penn is all over the place now....ugh. Bases loaded, 1 out.

Baldwin warming up.

[TheDoyler23]

And Penn gets Bellhorn for the Double Play! Great pitch with the high inside heater, all he could do is chop it to second.

3-1 and still in it. Lets get some runs!

[aejm1400]

Nice DP to get out of the jam and keep it 3-1.

[TheDoyler23]

Man, left 2 on again.

[TheDoyler23]

3up 3down for Penn. Lets get the bats going.

[TheDoyler23]

2 on no out after Raffy takes a single the other way. Great work by Raffy.

[aejm1400]

Now we just need BJ to slap one down the right field line just over 300 feet.

[TheDoyler23]

YEA BJ!

[aejm1400]

Nice double BJ. 2nd and 3rd and 0 out.

[TheDoyler23]

There goes my hero. a 7 pitch ab, battling all the way and he laces it right back thru the box.

[aejm1400]

I love those battling at bats that result in hits or walks.

[TheDoyler23]

Gibby hits behind the runners for the RBI grounder.

[aejm1400]

And Gibby ties it up with a man still on 3rd and Gomez up to bat.

[TheDoyler23]

Damn, Gomez rocked it right at bellhorn.

[TheDoyler23]

Come on Sal, be a hitter out there.

[aejm1400]

Let's see if strikout Sal can come through this time.

[TheDoyler23]

I'm suprised he hit it that far. Too bad. Lets get them next inning.

[Maxito]

wonder why Mazz chose to take out Penn after he striked out Ramierez.

[TheDoyler23]

He K's Manny on three sick curveballs, and Mazz takes him out?

[aejm1400]

He lets Penn strike out Manny and calls in Parrish for the left handed Trot. All in all a good day for Penn who just needs to limit those walks.

[TheDoyler23]

82 pitches, 4 hits, 3er, 5 1/3 innings. I guess you want a lefty to get at Nixon.

[aejm1400]

Originally posted by TheDoyler23
He K's Manny on three sick curveballs, and Mazz takes him out?

He's probably working on a pitch count but Maz/Miller wanted him to face the right hander before pulling him.

[Maxito]

lets just prey that Parrish doesn't mess up

[TheDoyler23]

He got Nixon to pop up. Good start.

[TheDoyler23]

Varitek gets a lucky double. @ least JP has a lefty matchup.

[TheDoyler23]

There you go, JP. Top O the order coming up.

[TheDoyler23]

Tejada battles for the 2 strike 2 out double. Lets go Sammy!

[TheDoyler23]

In comes Steve *GULP* Reed to pitch to PH Johnny Damon.

[dahurt002]

I hope he can hold this game close

[Maxito]

single by Belhorn, with one out. Hits Youkoulis

[aejm1400]

Is it just me, or does no one want to see reed in the game when it's close.

[aejm1400]

Here we go.

[TheDoyler23]

Damn, an off the end of the bat single and a hit batsman.

[TheDoyler23]

Newhan turns on the jets for that grab. Get Kline in here now!

[dahurt002]

He is worst in the bullpen

[dahurt002]

How many Outs?

[TheDoyler23]

WHAT THE BLODDY HELL!!!

[TheDoyler23]

All Kline had to do was cover the bag. He did TAG him out, though. What a BULLS**T Call and play. Man...

[TheDoyler23]

Todd Williams is such a BEAST. To give the Sox the bases loaded and an extra out (was that Hirshbeck out there or RITCHIE GARCIA?) have to face Manny and STILL didn't allow a run.

whew

[TheDoyler23]

Man, these umpire's are having a bad game. They don't call Gibby's flyball an out or safe, which keeps BJ from advancing.

[TheDoyler23]

Lets get this one BJ Ryan.

[Smooooot]

WOW..............

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Ouch!

[Obibyn23]

:doh: :wtf:

[TheDoyler23]

Well, that was the worst loss of the year. sigh...

[TD_washingtonredskins]

That loss just sucks since the team did a good job to battle back and scratch out some runs to tie, then get one to put the game in BJ's hands, only to lose when the Sox were down to their last strike.

I'd had preferred the young pitcher get a little roughed up and lose by 4 or something!

Oh well, I hope this pisses BJ off for the rest of the year.

[Spaceman Spiff]

That hurt.

Oh well, gotta get tomorrows game. I think BJ is one of the mentally stronger guys around. He'll be ok.

[aejm1400]

It did hurt, but we can't expect BJ to save every game and never give up a run. He'll just be that much more tougher now.

[galentjm]

at least the yanks got swept

[aejm1400]

Originally posted by galentjm
at least the yanks got swept

Go KC!!!!

Worst ERA versus 2nd highest scoring team=sweep. Go figure.