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Jaron
June-7th-2005, 05:08 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2078813

Eagles still class of NFC East
By John Clayton
ESPN.com
Archive

Something isn't right in the NFC East. In the past three years, the division reached out for proven winning coaches such as Bill Parcells, Joe Gibbs and Tom Coughlin – and, despite that, the Eagles' stranglehold only gets stronger.

The Eagles have won four consecutive NFC East titles and finished last season with a seven-game victory margin over the other three NFC East teams (13-3 compared to 6-10 for the Giants, Cowboys and Redskins).

While that gap likely will close some this fall, the question is whether the other division teams can catch up enough to make a real difference. Philadelphia clearly remains the NFC East favorite despite off-field contract concerns. The Eagles' schedule is the third easiest in the league, featuring teams with combined 2004 winning percentages of .453. They face only six teams that finished last season 8-8 or better, a league low.

Sure, the Eagles have some issues. Terrell Owens is threatening a long holdout and has been an offseason distraction because he wants more money. Defensive tackle Corey Simon is an unsigned franchise player who might miss a good portion of training camp. The Eagles tired of wide receiver Freddie Mitchell's mouth and released him. But they have the winning formula in this division, with quarterback Donovan McNabb, head coach Andy Reid and coordinators Brad Childress and Jim Johnson locked up with contract extensions for a long time.

• Philadelphia Eagles
Best Move: Re-signing middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter to a five-year, $15.6 million deal was the team's biggest transaction of the offseason. In fact, it was the only deal in which they spent more than $1 million. Former Lions quarterback Mike McMahon was their only free-agent signing, and he cost them only $940,000 (nothing if he fails to make the 53-man roster). It's not as though the Eagles weren't active. They did a bulk of their deals last season, re-signing cornerbacks Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown, guard Artis Hicks, defensive tackle Sam Rayburn and wide receiver Greg Lewis. Trotter was their most prominent free agent, and he was an important player to keep. His return last year was as important in the locker room as on the field because he's a great leader. On the field, Trotter helped to improve the run defense from 22nd in 2003 to 16th last year. Trotter is a big body who added bulk against the run. Plus, he added an element of toughness. The Eagles had their worst year against the run while Trotter was in Washington. Keeping Trotter was a key move.

Biggest Surprise: Not re-signing guard Jermane Mayberry wasn't surprising. The Eagles usually let aging veterans go when their contracts run out and they get past the age of 30. But not investing a little more for insurance along the offensive line has left the line a little thin. Left tackle Tra Thomas hasn't been allowed to participate in contact drills this offseason because he's on blood thinners from a blood clot behind his left knee. Right tackle Jon Runyan is in the final year of his contract, and this probably will be his last season with the Eagles. Right guard Shawn Andrews was a first-round pick in 2004, but he missed last season. The sixth offensive lineman, and the only backup with playing experience, is guard Steve Sciullo, who was claimed off the waiver wire from Indianapolis last season. The Eagles love to groom young offensive linemen. They took three on the second day of the draft and have three other second-day draft choices from 2004. If a few of those six aren't ready to step up and there are injuries along the O-line, the Eagles could have some problems.

Bottom Line: Owens helped carry the Eagles to their first Super Bowl since XV. But will he be a distraction who hurts the team this season? With a seven-game margin over the rest of the division, it's unlikely Owens will bring the team down. He might miss time at training camp in his futile effort to get a new contract, but no one expects him to miss regular-season games. In fact, his missing time in camp could actually be a positive in some ways, allowing second-round choice Reggie Brown enough time to play and become a valuable fourth receiver. Greg Lewis' development as a fast outside threat enabled McNabb to stretch the field occasionally. While Owens draws plenty of attention, McNabb makes the Eagles go. As long as he doesn't get hurt, the Eagles remain the favorite to win the NFC East.

• Dallas Cowboys
Best Move: Jerry Jones let Bill Parcells have his way. After trying to make Bill Parcells win the Jerry Jones way with Jerry Jones-type players, the aggressive Cowboys' owner let Parcells bring in his type of players. Allowing him to switch to the 3-4 defense was the key. By doing that, the Cowboys had the best offseason in the division, and the second best offseason in the NFL next to the Minnesota Vikings. The first move was getting a nose tackle. Jason Ferguson cost them $8.125 million in signing bonuses as part of a five-year, $21 million free-agent contract, but he's worth it. A 3-4 can't operate unless the nose tackle occupies two blockers. No one on the Cowboys' roster could do that, so the Cowboys had no choice but to pay Ferguson. Parcells started filling the rest of the 3-4 in the draft. He drafted Demarcus Ware in the first round to be his pass-rushing linebacker. He drafted Marcus Spears and Chris Canty to develop as 3-4 defensive linemen. Adjusting to a 3-4 isn't easy. Defensive end Greg Ellis and defensive tackle La'Roi Glover are more natural fits in a 4-3 and might have some problems converting to a 3-4. But the linebacking corps is now the strength of the team, with Ware, second-round choice Kevin Burnett and veterans Al Singleton, Dat Nguyen, Bradie James and Kalen Thornton.

Biggest Surprise: It's still stunning that Anthony Henry received a five-year, $25.2 million deal. While Henry was a good player in Cleveland, he wasn't considered a shutdown cornerback. But if Terence Newman can be the shutdown corner the Cowboys thought they were getting when they drafted him 2003, Henry just has to cover and tackle well in zone schemes. In that case, he might be worth the big investment. The bonus for the Cowboys was getting Aaron Glenn as a third cornerback. Newman is coming off a disappointing season. He should bounce back because he has better players around him at cornerback. With Ware and some aggressive blitzing schemes, the Cowboys shouldn't finish 21st in pass defense, as they did in 2004.

Bottom Line: After a disappointing 6-10 season, it would be a major disaster if the Cowboys don't improve by at least three games. Jones spent almost $27 million on seven free agents. The key will be how well Drew Bledsoe does. He's certainly younger than Vinny Testaverde, but he isn't very mobile. Parcells was with Bledsoe in his formative years in New England, and they went to a Super Bowl together. Can they regain the magic? There isn't a lot of speed at wide receiver, so Bledsoe must release the ball quickly, something he didn't do in Buffalo. Julius Jones, who gained 819 yards last season in just eight games, should make Bledsoe's job easier. Picking up Anthony Thomas as a backup at running back was a smart move in case Jones wears down. Jerry Jones was spoiled in 2003 when Parcells won 10 games without shaking up the roster. But the drop to six wins last season forced him to get the type of players Parcells wants. The question facing the Cowboys this year is: Did they acquire enough Parcells guys?

• Washington Redskins
Best Move: The success of the whole season could come down to Joe Gibbs' decision to switch the style of receivers in Washington. Going from Laveranues Coles and Rod Gardner to Santana Moss and David Patten was a bold move. If it works, the Redskins' offense won't repeat its woeful ranking of No. 30 in the league. Think about it for a second: Clinton Portis rushed for 1,315 yards and the Redskins still ranked 30th in yards per game. They looked anemic on offense. They were among the worst in yards after the catch and in big plays. Gibbs decided he needed smaller, quicker receivers. Moss failed to live up to his first-round billing with the Jets and was in the final year of his contract. He caught 74 passes in 2003, but that was his only 50-plus-catch season. But Gibbs believes Patten and Moss will create more excitement. Gibbs figured he has nothing to lose – with Coles and Gardner, the Redskins averaged only 10 yards per reception as a team. The two produced only six touchdowns. Offensively, the Redskins produced only 24 touchdowns all season. Something drastic had to happen.

Biggest Surprise: Jason Campbell has all the tools to be a great quarterback, but his presence on the Redskins is puzzling. Gibbs was hired by owner Dan Snyder to win now. Can Gibbs rush a rookie quarterback ahead of Patrick Ramsey and Mark Brunell and win now? And if he doesn't, why did Gibbs use a first-round choice on the quarterback of the future? The future is now in Washington. There is no guarantee Gibbs will want to coach past this season, which means Campbell would be the quarterback of the future for a new coach. It's apparent Gibbs doesn't have the greatest confidence in the world in Ramsey or Brunell. Campbell heads into training camp as the third quarterback, but if the Redskins still rank No. 30 in offense after a month or so, Campbell may get a chance.

Bottom Line: This is a make-or-break year for the Redskins. They structured contracts to make a two-year run at a Super Bowl. A 6-10 first season wasn't what Gibbs expected. The 'Skins were much better on defense thanks to the hiring of former Bills head coach Gregg Williams as the defensive coordinator. The D finished third overall, and a second year in the system should allow it to stay at that level. The key will be the offense – and don't expect Gibbs to be patient with his quarterbacks, which could lead to QB controversies. Ramsey heads into the season as the starter. While he's bright and completes 62 percent of his passes, he needs to come up with more big plays to keep moving the chains. The addition of Casey Rabach gives the Redskins the most talented offensive line in the division. Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen are healthy at tackle. Randy Thomas and Derrick Dockery are more than solid at guard. It comes down to the passing offense dictating how far this team will go.

• New York Giants
Best Move: The strangest pairing in the league might be Giants coach Tom Coughlin and former Steelers wide receiver Plaxico Burress. Coughlin is a rigid disciplinarian who wants players to arrive early to meetings. Burress runs on his own schedule. But without a first-round choice, the Giants needed to get a first-round talent at wide receiver, and Burress was the perfect fit for quarterback Eli Manning. Leg and speed problems caught up with the Giants last year. Amani Toomer couldn't run because of a bad hamstring. Little else was happening at receiver, and it's tough for a young quarterback to grow if receivers are slow getting into routes. General manager Ernie Accorsi watched tapes of how Burress helped the development of Ben Roethlisberger last year. Though Burress isn't the fastest receiver, he offers size and some ability to stretch the ball downfield. The Giants are doing all they can to add some big targets for Manning, who is trying to improve his completion percentage from 48.2 into the 60-plus range.

Biggest Surprise: The addition of middle linebacker Antonio Pierce was a good surprise. Normally, teams don't pay big money in free agency to linebackers, but the Giants came up with a six-year, $25.7 million deal for Pierce. That's a lot of money at linebacker. A good tackler, Pierce was considered the sleeper of free agency. Undrafted when he came into the league, Pierce was a great success story in Washington. He's a good leader on the field, making sure teammates are lined up correctly and inspiring their play.

Bottom Line: It took until December for Manning to get into a comfort zone after he took over for Kurt Warner at midseason. Coughlin expects dramatic progress from his second-year quarterback this season. Tight end Jeremy Shockey has been working hard during the offseason in Miami to return to his Pro Bowl rookie form. Coughlin is designing more plays to get him into passing routes on a more consistent basis. If Toomer can regain some of his speed with a healthy hamstring, Manning has a lot of offensive weapons to use. Toomer, Burress and Shockey are big targets and good receivers. Running back Tiki Barber is coming off a 1,518-yard season and shows no signs of slowing down. The Giants could be the surprise team in the division, but everything revolves around the development of Manning, the division's youngest quarterback.

Jaron
June-7th-2005, 05:12 PM
There is no guarantee Gibbs will want to coach past this season

Except for the fact that Gibbs has stated NUMEROUS times that he intends to be here five years.... :doh:

a_good_brotha
June-7th-2005, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by Pharmaceutical Redskin


Except for the fact that Gibbs has stated NUMEROUS times that he intends to be here five years.... :doh:

You beat me to it.

I don't get why so many writers are down on Santana Moss. He can play. His best season was only 2 years ago. Some people just don't realize that last season he had Quincy Carter throwing the ball to him for a bit of the season. And when Pennington did return he still wasn't 100%. In my opinion that played a big part in Moss not getting big numbers.

jrockster21
June-7th-2005, 05:19 PM
The addition of Casey Rabach gives the Redskins the most talented offensive line in the division. Chris Samuels and Jon Jansen are healthy at tackle. Randy Thomas and Derrick Dockery are more than solid at guard.

Finally, someone notices! Sheesh!

I thought this was a solid, well-thought out article. Kudos to Clayton! It is by far the best I've seen, anyway. I don't like that he called the Cowturds offseason the 2nd best in the NFL, but what are ya gonna do!?!?

dreamshatterer
June-7th-2005, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Pharmaceutical Redskin
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=2078813

Eagles still class of NFC East
By John Clayton
ESPN.com
Archive

Something isn't right in the NFC East. In the past three years, the division reached out for proven winning coaches such as Bill Parcells, Joe Gibbs and Tom Coughlin – and, despite that, the Eagles' stranglehold only gets stronger.



Gibbs in Washington - 1 year
Coughlin in New York - 1 year
Parcells in Dallas - 2 years (even though went 10-6 1st year)

WTF are people expecting outta this division last year? A quick 180? Not gonna happen. History has proven it takes about 3 years to turn around any program. I see the NFC East dominating once again within the next couple of years. If you look it up, teams from the NFC East has appeared in the Super Bowl 46% of the time. BTW, thats with the Cardinals never showing up and Philly going only twice. (Hasn't won yet :D ) Anyways, this division will rise again. But hopefully, we'll rise above the other 3.:dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck

rdskns n 05
June-7th-2005, 05:47 PM
Still no respect!

RaleighSkinsMann
June-7th-2005, 05:56 PM
"Gibbs was hired by owner Dan Snyder to win now."


No the hell he wasn't ...he was hired to restore tradition...long term.....



"don't expect Gibbs to be patient with his quarterbacks, which could lead to QB controversies"


Did this idiot even watch a Skins game last year.......Mark Brunell stayed in waaaaaay past his time on the field...everybody was screaming pull him.......

what an arse!!!!!

WVSkins79
June-7th-2005, 06:15 PM
Ummmm, I really don't have anything to contribute to this thread. The only reason I am here is because this is my historic 100th post on these forums, and I did not want it to be in one of the 867,534 threads about the player who was recently arrested.

Thank you! :bow:

OkieSkin
June-7th-2005, 06:43 PM
Well at least he noticed the O-Line.

Chachie
June-7th-2005, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by dreamshatterer


Gibbs in Washington - 1 year
Coughlin in New York - 1 year
Parcells in Dallas - 2 years (even though went 10-6 1st year)

WTF are people expecting outta this division last year? A quick 180? Not gonna happen. History has proven it takes about 3 years to turn around any program. I see the NFC East dominating once again within the next couple of years. If you look it up, teams from the NFC East has appeared in the Super Bowl 46% of the time. BTW, thats with the Cardinals never showing up and Philly going only twice. (Hasn't won yet :D ) Anyways, this division will rise again. But hopefully, we'll rise above the other 3.:dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck

:cheers:

big_rod
June-7th-2005, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by RaleighSkinsMann
"Gibbs was hired by owner Dan Snyder to win now."


No the hell he wasn't ...he was hired to restore tradition...long term.....





Thank you! These sports journalists are so short-sighted and stupid half the time.

SkinsForLife260
June-7th-2005, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by OkieSkin
Well at least he noticed the O-Line.

true

Our line is so improved. I didn't realize how much jansen affected the line.

Glad hes back.

TaylorPickSix
June-7th-2005, 07:04 PM
Clayton atleast gives the O-Line and Campbell props.
He stays on my good list :).

CaliforniaSkin
June-7th-2005, 07:09 PM
I thought it was a pretty fair article. And I agree with Clayton on his main premise about the 'skins. Our defense will be good, the key to our season will be the play of our WRs and QB. We have a talented line and a talented RB (and a pretty good backup RB in Betts). If Ramsey and the new wide-outs play well we'll be in contention for a wildcard berth.

Jaron
June-7th-2005, 07:11 PM
I am getting sick of all these assumptions about the Cowboys.

IF Ellis and Glover can adjust to the 3-4...

IF Newman becomes the shut-down corner he was drafted to be...

IF the defensive rookies play well their first year....

IF Bledsoe can play well, develop a quick release, stay healthy, etc.......

THEN the Cowboy's should be much improved!!!!!!!!!!

It seems like everyone thinks that there won't be any growing pains at all with switching to the 3-4. I don't get it.

skinshog
June-7th-2005, 07:11 PM
Overall, I think that this was a positive article on the Skins. He supports the move for new receivers, and he gives notice to our o-line, calling it the most talented in the division. He also called Ramsey bright, I don't think i've heard that from many analysts

Bat~man
June-7th-2005, 08:08 PM
seems fair on some points , it does irritate me when people say gibbs will be gone blah blah , he may very well be gone after a year or two , truth is nobody knows =| but it was a fair article

larry29
June-7th-2005, 08:24 PM
Best o-line in the division, sounds like Joe Gibbs is back!

THEHEREAFTER
June-7th-2005, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by Pharmaceutical Redskin
I am getting sick of all these assumptions about the Cowboys.

IF Ellis and Glover can adjust to the 3-4...

IF Newman becomes the shut-down corner he was drafted to be...

IF the defensive rookies play well their first year....

IF Bledsoe can play well, develop a quick release, stay healthy, etc.......

THEN the Cowboy's should be much improved!!!!!!!!!!

It seems like everyone thinks that there won't be any growing pains at all with switching to the 3-4. I don't get it.

There will be some growing pains switching to a 3-4. However, Parcells has run this D for 95% of his career and will make the transition slowly still using the 4-3 alot. Parcells now has depth and versatility on the D-line to show multiple fronts and rotate comfortably. Dallas does have a few question marks going into the season.. agreed--- most teams do. If the majority of those questions are answered we could suprise alot of people. ;)

Jaron
June-7th-2005, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by THEHEREAFTER


There will be some growing pains switching to a 3-4. However, Parcells has run this D for 95% of his career and will make the transition slowly still using the 4-3 alot. Parcells now has depth and versatility on the D-line to show multiple fronts and rotate comfortably. Dallas does have a few question marks going into the season.. agreed--- most teams do. If the majority of those questions are answered we could suprise alot of people. ;)

I agree that most teams have question marks going into every season, but it seems like the majority of sportswriters are just glossing over the Cowboy's question marks as a mere formality. :2cents:

skinshog
June-7th-2005, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by larry29
Best o-line in the division, sounds like Joe Gibbs is back!

Exactly :logo: :wewantd: :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck :cool:

Dallsux
June-8th-2005, 12:36 AM
Originally posted by Pharmaceutical Redskin

It's apparent Gibbs doesn't have the greatest confidence in the world in Ramsey or Brunell.


:doh: :doh:

According to who? Nunyo? How is it "apparent" that Gibbs doesn't have the greatest confidence in Ramsey? Did he try to trade him this offseason? Has he said in one breath that Ramsey would be the starter & then in the next said that someone else would be? Gimme a break.

Simpleton
June-8th-2005, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by larry29
Best o-line in the division, sounds like Joe Gibbs is back!

LT: Chris Samuels v. Flozell Adams v. Tra Thomas

Edge: Wash

LG: Derrick Dockery v. Larry Allen v. Artis Hicks

Edge: Dallas

C: Casey Rabach v. Al Johnson v. Hank Fraley

Edge: Philadelphia, but not by much over either the Skins or Cowboys

RG: Randy Thomas v. Marco Rivera v. Steve Sciullo?

Edge: I'd say wash between Dallas and Washington, but both are significantly better than the Eagles RG, although I'm not 100% sure he's going to be their starter.

RT: Jon Jansen v. Rob Pettiti/Ben Noll/Torrin Tucker/Kurt Vollers v. Shawn Andrews

Edge: Washington

Personally, I don't see a huge difference in any of these three offensive lines.

Westbrook36
June-8th-2005, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by Simpleton


LT: Chris Samuels v. Flozell Adams v. Tra Thomas

Edge: Wash

LG: Derrick Dockery v. Larry Allen v. Artis Hicks

Edge: Dallas

C: Casey Rabach v. Al Johnson v. Hank Fraley

Edge: Philadelphia, but not by much over either the Skins or Cowboys

RG: Randy Thomas v. Marco Rivera v. Steve Sciullo?

Edge: I'd say wash between Dallas and Washington, but both are significantly better than the Eagles RG, although I'm not 100% sure he's going to be their starter.

RT: Jon Jansen v. Rob Pettiti/Ben Noll/Torrin Tucker/Kurt Vollers v. Shawn Andrews

Edge: Washington

Personally, I don't see a huge difference in any of these three offensive lines.

Runyan will be playing RT for the Eagles along with Shawn "Kung Fu" Andrews playing RG. I won't predict the rest of the line positions but I'll say with great confidence that Andrews will be the best RG in the division and perhaps in the ProBowl this year. Am I going overboard on a guy who has played 2 quarters of football in the NFL? Maybe, but he dominated all last preseason and training camp and was mauling the whole Giants game before he broke his leg, which he is 100 percent healed from.

budski
June-8th-2005, 05:20 AM
Definitely expect the NFC East to be alot better and tougher on opponents this year. I would be expect all division games to be split, and the NFC east to lead the NFL in games won.

RyansRangers
June-8th-2005, 09:53 AM
why doesnt anyone of the sports writers have an original idea

BigCb37
June-8th-2005, 09:59 AM
Originally posted by CowboyzSuckAzz



:doh: :doh:

According to who? Nunyo? How is it "apparent" that Gibbs doesn't have the greatest confidence in Ramsey? Did he try to trade him this offseason? Has he said in one breath that Ramsey would be the starter & then in the next said that someone else would be? Gimme a break.

Maybe because it took Gibbs FOREVER to pull Brunell last year in favor of Ramsey and the fact that we wasted 3 picks to draft a QB in the first round.

Seems apparent to me...

Good article I thought although I would say the season depends on the QB more then the WR corps...

Rocky21
June-8th-2005, 11:49 AM
"By allowing Parcells to switch to the 3-4 defense, the Cowboys had the best offseason in the division, and the second best offseason in the NFL next to the Minnesota Vikings." :whoknows:

Huh? By switching schemes the Cowgirls had the second best offseason in the league? None of their players have run it before and they are one or two D-Line injuries away from having to scrap the whole thing. Talk about getting carried away.

Goaldeje
June-8th-2005, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by THEHEREAFTER


There will be some growing pains switching to a 3-4. However, Parcells has run this D for 95% of his career and will make the transition slowly still using the 4-3 alot. Parcells now has depth and versatility on the D-line to show multiple fronts and rotate comfortably. Dallas does have a few question marks going into the season.. agreed--- most teams do. If the majority of those questions are answered we could suprise alot of people. ;)

For me, the two biggest ifs are Newman and Bledsoe for the Boys. Newman has positively been abused so far in his career. Got worse last year too, if I remember right. I think Newman would be a decent number two corner, and a superb nickel, but is way overmatched at number 1. Your defense is going to have to put pressure on the QB very quickly EVERY down, or run the risk of your secondary getting burned. To me, that is Dallas' weak link in the D. The scheme change will help mask some problems, and you have an above-average linebacking corps, but your secondary (especially without Woodson) is very suspect.

And then there is statue boy. Clayton made a very good point in this article that the Boys do not have a ton of speed, so Bledsoe is going to have to get the ball out quickly, something that has been lacking for 6 years or so now. Julius Jones is a hell of a runner, but (ask Portis about this) teams will stack the box to stop him, and dare Bledsoe to beat them. Not sure thats a bet I want to make.

essex03
June-8th-2005, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by OkieSkin
Well at least he noticed the O-Line.

I never thought the O-Line was bad but everyone wanted to tell me I was crazy.
Yay for my team.:cheers:

TD_washingtonredskins
June-8th-2005, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Simpleton

Personally, I don't see a huge difference in any of these three offensive lines.

No one implied that there was one. But I think the Redskins have the most solid line in the division (as does Clayton) regardless of the margin.

jrockster21
June-8th-2005, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Pharmaceutical Redskin
It seems like everyone thinks that there won't be any growing pains at all with switching to the 3-4. I don't get it.

Its because Parcells is a genius and Gibbs is a doddering old fart that the game has passed by, of course! Don't you read the articles at ESPN?? :rolleyes:

Ricky Ervins
June-8th-2005, 12:48 PM
Am I the only one who noticed that he claims that Antonio Pierce was an "undrafted free agent." I could have sworn Marty drafted him in the 5th or 6th?

Simpleton
June-8th-2005, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by TD_washingtonredskins


No one implied that there was one. But I think the Redskins have the most solid line in the division (as does Clayton) regardless of the margin.

That's true, although I think with Philly putting Andrews at RG and Runyan back at RT they have the best OL in the division. Except for Andrews they've been together a pretty good while, so I think their chemistry is better than Dallas' or Washington's. Guess we'll see during the year.

jimster
June-8th-2005, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by Ricky Ervins
Am I the only one who noticed that he claims that Antonio Pierce was an "undrafted free agent." I could have sworn Marty drafted him in the 5th or 6th?

nope, he was undrafted. - picked up the year Marty was here.

[[ghost]]
June-8th-2005, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by WVSkins79
Ummmm, I really don't have anything to contribute to this thread. The only reason I am here is because this is my historic 100th post on these forums, and I did not want it to be in one of the 867,534 threads about the player who was recently arrested.

Thank you! :bow:

wait till you get to 10 Gs, then it'll be historic.

Shotgunner
June-8th-2005, 04:38 PM
I love our O line lets get back to basics, shall we!!:cool:

Jaron
June-8th-2005, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by jrockster77


Its because Parcells is a genius and Gibbs is a doddering old fart that the game has passed by, of course! Don't you read the articles at ESPN?? :rolleyes:

Yes, and if the players aren't excelling in the 3-4 by the end of training camp, Parcells will yell at them really loud and scare them into learning the system. :rolleyes:

Goaldeje
June-8th-2005, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by [[ghost]]


wait till you get to 10 Gs, then it'll be historic.

Historic or histrionic?

kingdaddy
June-9th-2005, 10:22 AM
Bledsoe + Cowboys = 6-10.
-- DB is going to see so many blitzes that he won't make it thru the season. With the D coordinators in the NFC East this is a terrible signing for the "Boys". Greg Williams should know him pretty well.

---As for the Skins, it's time to challenge this offensive line and Buges is the right guy to do it. They need to seriously step it up and start dominating games. Their play will determine how successful this team is.

Kilmer
June-9th-2005, 12:56 PM
The Cowboys are just getting the love for the wholesale changes in the offseason that we normally get. The media loves to speculate like its Madden Football.

We will just see how much of a difference this thing called "stability and chemistry" that has been blamed for our crappy seasons when the media was all gung-ho on us in the preseason.

I thought the article was fair. In general I think analysts are over rating the Boys and Iggles and underating us and the Gints. I think the teams are a lot closer to each other than it appears on the surface.