Question...

[Johnny Punani2]

How would former redskins head coaches hande the Sean Taylor situation? I'd love to see what George Allen or Vince Lombardi would have done.

[Mufumonk]

Question: Why would anyone do anything till all of the facts are in?

[Johnny Punani2]

Originally posted by Mufumonk
Question: Why would anyone do anything till all of the facts are in?

It's just a hypothetical question. I'm not saying Taylor is guilty but for the question I posed let's assume he is guilty. However, even up to now I think George Allen and Vince Lombardi would have taken a different approach then Coach Gibbs.

[Dead Money]

Hypothetical question based on what? What did he do? Can you prove it yet? (get it?) Assume he's guilty of what? to what degree?

Its all just so useless.

[bubba9497]

answer

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by Kevin B.
Hypothetical question based on what? What did he do? Can you prove it yet? (get it?) Assume he's guilty of what? to what degree?

Its all just so useless.

Not really.

The JP is simply asking people to assume that Taylor is guilty of the felony he's accused of. Not too useless if it's a curiosity of his.

Wait, I think someone might have insulted Taylor in another thread, hurry over to defend him!

:laugh: ;)

[stwasm]

I think Lombardi and Allen would have put their respective feet up his you-know-where! They didn't play! Especially, Lombardi. I'd even go so far as to say Lombardi would be plotting ways to get him off the team!

[Ax]

What the hell, I'll play.

Answer:

They both would have cut him.
They both would have been challenged by the players union for punishing a player, convicted of NOTHING!
They both would have lost.
They both would have had to reinstate him.
They both would have been pi$$ed about it.
And, according to Pastabelly, both would end up on the pile of ordinary men named Vincent & George.

Next question?

[PleaseBlitz]

Did they have ATV's back then?

[Vette]

Originally posted by Kevin B.
Hypothetical question based on what? What did he do? Can you prove it yet? (get it?) Assume he's guilty of what? to what degree?

Its all just so useless.

Umm...hypothetical questions don't have to be based on anything, necessarily. They are simply questions that are possible to consider, but do not have to be true. Appreciate the enthusiam though!

[denverdan]

Are you taking taylor back in time or are you bringing George Allen & Vince Lombardi to the present? It makes a big difference in this salary cap day and age, hypothetically speaking.

[HailSkinz1]

He would have been released the first time he didn't show up to a voluntary practice or refused to return Allen or Lombardi's phone call.

Then we'd be making fun of Taylor getting into this trouble as a Cowboy!

H

[danbee]

Nothing, they're dead....:D

[MidPennSkin]

Originally posted by PleaseBlitz
Did they have ATV's back then?

Yes, but they weren't nearly as popular as they are now. The early ones were all three-wheelers. The four-wheel version didn't become popular until around 1985. Here's a 1970 Honda ATC90, one of the first ones.

http://atvscene.com/images/atc901970.gif

[Lowghost]

George would have traded the pick away, so we would never had drafted him.

Vince would just cut him.

:2cents:

[bubba9497]

NOT A DAMN THING, THEY BOTH COACH GUYS WHO PUSHED the envelope of society, and back then gun laws were null and void, having/using a gun wasn't a big deal, unless someone was hurt/killed.

As long as they showed up for training camp and played hard, was all that mattered. off season was not a big deal either

[Johnny Punani2]

Originally posted by MidPennSkin


Yes, but they weren't nearly as popular as they are now. The early ones were all three-wheelers. The four-wheel version didn't become popular until around 1985. Here's a 1970 Honda ATC90, one of the first ones.

http://atvscene.com/images/atc901970.gif

Damn! Look at those fat bubble tires. I remember my cousin had a honda 250 3 wheeler. It's was fun but highly unstable. ATVs have come along way. I'll be riding this in about a month...

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

As Dave Chappelle might say:
"Lombardi would've whooped his monkey @ss just for not returning his phone calls." :D

[Woofer]

Originally posted by Johnny Punani


It's just a hypothetical question. I'm not saying Taylor is guilty but for the question I posed let's assume he is guilty. However, even up to now I think George Allen and Vince Lombardi would have taken a different approach then Coach Gibbs.

In their days, players feared their coaches wrath. Taylor would have been in the OTAs, not in Florida, so the situation may never have come up.

But on the other hand, I don't think they even had OTAs back in the 60s and 70s. Football was a full time job, but just barely. Some of the players had off-season jobs to supplement their income.

But I digress.

Lombardi and Allen...mmm, tough to say. I think Lombardi would kick Taylor's butt and make him do pushups til pigs fly.
Allen would probably have a simular solution to the problem.

But like I said at the beginning, Players respected, feared, and listened to the coach.

[Woofer]

Originally posted by bubba9497
answer

How many people do you think got it?

[Goaldeje]

Originally posted by Woofer Magoo


How many people do you think got it?

I count three so far...

[zoony]

"What do you plan to do about Sean Taylor?"

Spurrier: "Not now... I've got a 1 o'clock tee time"

Schotty: "Sean will be executed"

Norval: "umm, uhh... I think what Sean needs is a mentor on the team. Someone to teach him not only about football, but about life. I've spoken to Michael Westbrook today and he is more than willing to help out in mentoring Sean, so that's great. Go Cowbo.... I mean, Go Skins."

Petibone: :paranoid:

Allen: "I'm gonna trade Sean, Lavar, and 3 draft picks for Vinny Testaverde. We need a veteran back there."

[Goaldeje]

Originally posted by zoony
"What do you plan to do about Sean Taylor?"

Spurrier: "Not now... I've got a 1 o'clock tee time"

Schotty: "Sean will be executed"

Norval: "umm, uhh... I think what Sean needs is a mentor on the team. Someone to teach him not only about football, but about life. I've spoken to Michael Westbrook today and he is more than willing to help out in mentoring Sean, so that's great. Go Cowbo.... I mean, Go Skins."

Petibone: :paranoid:

Allen: "I'm gonna trade Sean, Lavar, and 3 draft picks for Vinny Testaverde. We need a veteran back there."


Thats very funny! Thank you :rotflmao:

[Dead Money]

Originally posted by TD_washingtonredskins


Not really.

The JP is simply asking people to assume that Taylor is guilty of the felony he's accused of. Not too useless if it's a curiosity of his.

Wait, I think someone might have insulted Taylor in another thread, hurry over to defend him!

:laugh: ;)

OK, you tools assume he's guilty. The case gets pushed back till next year - therefore useless to discuss.

Hypothecially speaking of course.

[wskin44]

Originally posted by Johnny Punani
I think George Allen and Vince Lombardi would have taken a different approach then Coach Gibbs.

Different era, different rules. Joe Gibbs is playing by a set of rules that the NFL has worked out with the NFLPA for these situations. Innocent until proven guilty. He really doesn't have much choice. George & Vince had much more freedom and didn't have to deal with the cap ramifications. The NFL just isn't the wild west anymore, in spite of what Sean Taylor thinks.

[Johnny Punani2]

Originally posted by Kevin B.


OK, you tools assume he's guilty. The case gets pushed back till next year - therefore useless to discuss.

Hypothecially speaking of course.

Hey Man, WTF is your problem?

We are not talking about Sean Taylor's guilt or innocence. All I am talking about is how would two former coaches of the Skins would handle the situation.

Relax

[Johnny Punani2]

Originally posted by wskin44


Different era, different rules. Joe Gibbs is playing by a set of rules that the NFL has worked out with the NFLPA for these situations. Innocent until proven guilty. He really doesn't have much choice. George & Vince had much more freedom and didn't have to deal with the cap ramifications. The NFL just isn't the wild west anymore, in spite of what Sean Taylor thinks.

Yeah, your prob right. I even think the Joe Gibbs of the 80's would handle this in a different way then Joe Gibbs 2005. There should be a change in the cap to where if a team releases a player for legal/discipline reasons they should get all of the cap hit back.

[Dead Money]

Yeah overreacted - sorry... but my point is that even if he is guilty you have to ask "guilty of what"

There are so many directions that his case can go in we don't even know yet which direction the prosecution is going to go in yet...

I think that both coaches would want to know the facts about the case and not just look at it in black and white terms before they could make a decision on what to do.