Top 5 Reasons Patrick Ramsey is PRO BOWL BOUND!!!

[OldTownFan]

Thats right, Pro Bowl Bound, ala the Drew Brees of the 2005 NFL season....

reason #5
He is slow, and dependant on solid line play, and for the first time in his whole entire NFL career, he is going to get just that.

reason #4
He has a Elwayesque arm, and a John Wayne size jock strap, which means he has the tools to deliver, something many have not realized.

reason #3
He is from the land of great quarterbacks, the state that produced Brett Favre, and fittingly, his persona is that of a humble, hard worker, who is intelligent enough to know his back is going to be up against the wall this season, as opossed to on the playing turf.

reason #2
Clinton Portis and the offensive line

reason # 1 that Patrick Ramsey is PRO BOWL BOUND...

...HE POACHES FOR UNSUSPECTING SPOTTED WHITE TAIL FAWNS DURING TRAINING CAMP. Thats right, and for you enviornmentalists out there, that means HE SHOOTS AT BAMBI WITH RECKLESS ABANDON!!!!...and if that does not scream a ballsy man who will take us to the promised land, than I'll eat my shorts..:logo:

:wewantd:
:point2sky

[TheDane]

Any man who questions Ramsey, saying that he hesitates too much or doesn't make quick enough decisions, I say this to you:

He ain't hesitating for **** when he sees that 12 pointer. That tells you something about a man.

If you don't know, you better ask somebody. :point2sky

[tr1]

Have you ever encountered people who are against hunting?

Ramsey: I am an outspoken guy about my hunting, but no one's ever really challenged me about it. I'm a conservationist -- I seldom shoot deer. It has to be a pretty good deer, or I'll help the population if there are too many. I usually watch 10 times as many as I shoot.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/6381938

[NYFootballGIANTS]

Ramsey will not make the Pro Bowl. It's a huge popularity contest and even if he has a pretty good year, he will not be popular enough to make it. It will probably be McNabb, Culpepper, and Vick again.

[OldTownFan]

go home to ny

[skinsfan080]

I actually agree with Giant fan in a way. The Pro Bowl has turned into a joke of some sorts, as far as popularity goes. While its not on the levels of MLB, and the NBA when its really only the all stars and nothing else. Now that the fans have some sort of a say in the NFL, the bigger name guys will get in to generate some more money. But I agree with all your Reasons why Ramsey is going to prove me wrong.

[OldTownFan]

this is true or else griffen would have made it last year, but nevertheless, i'd rather hear if from a skin's fan with burgundy and gold blood than a giants/eagles/cowboy supporter/anti-patriot

[TaylorGreedy]

Originally posted by NYFootballGIANTS
Ramsey will not make the Pro Bowl. It's a huge popularity contest and even if he has a pretty good year, he will not be popular enough to make it. It will probably be McNabb, Culpepper, and Vick again.

Those three are automatic for the next 5 years. Ramsey will have to break records or win 12+ games to make the pro bowl.

[authentic]

Originally posted by TaylorGreedy


Those three are automatic for the next 5 years. Ramsey will have to break records or win 12+ games to make the pro bowl.

remember these numbers 12-4, 3500yrs, 25tds.. he would need to have those numbers in order to make the pro bowl.

[Eagles_Legendz]

To make it your first time you really need to blow away people with numbers (ala Brees), or else, even if he has a great season, he'll be made to wait a year. Normally, first time PBers make it the year after they should. Gibbs needs to open the offense up a bit as well if Ramsey is going to get an invite. :2cents:

[Kevin101]

Giants fan is right, the pro bowl doesn't mean crap at all. The # of wins your team gets is all that matters.

[skinshog]

Did Brees make it to the pro bowl?

[dreamshatterer]

Originally posted by skinshog
Did Brees make it to the pro bowl?

Yes

[Leonard Washington]

can we afford ramsey if he becomes a pro bowler.

[jwebst1]

Originally posted by Leonard Washington
can we afford ramsey if he becomes a pro bowler.

NOPE

[Heavy Jumbo]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
reason #4
He has a Elwayesque arm, and a John Wayne size jock strap, which means he has the tools to deliver, something many have not realized.



Did the comment about the jock strap worry anyone else but me?

I think Ramsey has a new friend. :paranoid:

[OldTownFan]

TRUST me, if ramsey ever becomes a pro bowler, dan snyder, of all owners, will find a way to keep him, do you when the last time D.C. had a pro bowl quarterback? this town is famous for it's quarterback controversies and quarterback history, just look at theismann, jurgenson, williams, even rypian, all those names spoken with reverence...if ramsey is ever added to that list above, synder will cut whoever he has to (jason campbell) if it means keeping his newly adorned pro bowl starting quarterback, thats a given

[skinshog]

If Brees became a pro bowler, I don't see why Ramsey couldn't if he has a successful year. Its not like the league loved this guy before last year.

[Redsk58417]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
TRUST me, if ramsey ever becomes a pro bowler, dan snyder, of all owners, will find a way to keep him, do you when the last time D.C. had a pro bowl quarterback? this town is famous for it's quarterback controversies and quarterback history, just look at theismann, jurgenson, williams, even rypian, all those names spoken with reverence...if ramsey is ever added to that list above, synder will cut whoever he has to (jason campbell) if it means keeping his newly adorned pro bowl starting quarterback, thats a given

Brad Johnson '99. And Mr. Dan really treated him swell. Nevertheless, the Skins let Smoot "AND" AP walk for lesser accomplishments. If Ramsey's contract demands are nuts? He is soooo "Out of here!" No way will they pay Ramsey #1 QB money for 4 or 5 years and still be grooming their star 1st round pick from Auburn. I can't see it.

[illone]

Pat can have a pro bowl type year without getting voted in to the actual game in Hawaii.

Most players don't care about it much anyways, which is why so many alternates are called in all the time. After a long grueling season the last thing most of those guys want to do is suit up for another game that doesn't mean anything.

I don't care if Ramsey makes the pro bowl. I do however hope he plays up to this potential that everyone here says he has.

We'll see.....

[SkinsFTW]

I really don't see how Ramsey can beat McNabb or Vick to the PB next year when they both can get there with very average numbers when their teams go 11-5 or better. Culpepper might drop off next year because of the change in offense but I still don't see Ramsey making it unless TO doesn't play and McNabb stinks it up worse than 2003 or Vick gets injured again both of which could happen. But Ramsey would have to pass for 3500 or so yards with a huge difference between TD's and INT's and I' don't think the offense is going to pass that much this season considering that Gibbs is probably going to try to pound the ball in many games again.

Hopefully this year Gibbs gets over the tendency to go extremely conservative while sitting on a 3-7 point lead and gives Ramsey the chance to open games up. Last year it was probably Brunells fault though since every pass he threw seemed to get there 1/2 a second late.

[skinshog]

Originally posted by SkinsFTW
I really don't see how Ramsey can beat McNabb or Vick to the PB next year when they both can get there with very average numbers when their teams go 11-5 or better. Culpepper might drop off next year because of the change in offense but I still don't see Ramsey making it unless TO doesn't play and McNabb stinks it up worse than 2003 or Vick gets injured again both of which could happen. But Ramsey would have to pass for 3500 or so yards with a huge difference between TD's and INT's and I' don't think the offense is going to pass that much this season considering that Gibbs is probably going to try to pound the ball in many games again.

Hopefully this year Gibbs gets over the tendency to go extremely conservative while sitting on a 3-7 point lead and gives Ramsey the chance to open games up. Last year it was probably Brunells fault though since every pass he threw seemed to get there 1/2 a second late.

Vick is the most overrated player in the NFL. I know I might get hammered for this, but I'd rather have Ramsey. Vick is inaccurate, but loved because of his athletic ability. And i'll admit, I like to watch him play when he runs crazy, but he really just isn't that good.

[RF4L]

I'd be happy with just a solid season out of Patrick.:)

Pro-bowl predictions seem a bit carried away at this point.

[OldTownFan]

Dan Ramsey and Brad Johnson cannot be compared, here's why

When Brad Johnson played well for Washington, and then had Jeff George signed as his back-up, that was a team where the owner ran it, and was criticized for it. Now, you are looking at a different Dan Snyder, whose learned his lessons the hard way, through his own financial blow-ups, and social relations lumps. In addition, Dan Snyder will not interfere with the desires of Joe Gibbs, for two reasons, they have an agreement, contractually, that states, simply put, this is Joe's show, not Dan's. In addition, not even the past, cocky Snyder, would dare interefere with Joe Gibbs, who in this town is second in power and authority only to George W. Bush.
As for the other poster, he clearly does not recognize that Patrick Ramsey, WHEN HE MAKES THE PRO BOWL will not ask for an outrageous contract, he's a humble Christian man, not a Terrel Owens, ****, Ramsey, who's whole entire contract, bonus included, is worth less than Mark Brunell's signing bonus, offered to restructure his already small contract, to help his team save salary cap space. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF HUMILITY, AND TEAM PLAYER, as well as one of the many reasons I am a Patrick Ramsey fan.
Also, the poster, Reds58417, also fails to realize that the quarterback position is of prime importance, moreso than any other position. Now add the fact that in Washington D.C. where guys like Theismann and Jurgenson, past successful quarterbacks still rule the roost as prideful talk of the town, that in our football town, the quarterback position is so important, it's as talked about at your local watering whole as the President, or anything else for that matter. With this understanding, one should realize the obvious, if or when Patrick Ramsey makes the prow bowl, Snyder will keep him, keep his marketability on a team he is now renowned for marketing, and release the back-up Jason Campbell. Fred Smoot, in addition was nowhere near pro bowl level, had only one good year, and even then, was only good for about 10 of the 16 games, and ran his fat mouth in every game of every season, even when he was staring at the back of an opposing reciever's jersey, while the ball whistled over his head....

[OldTownFan]

Patrick Ramse i mean, damn, i started the freakin thread and I get his friggin name wrong, my bad Patrick

[tvan]

Originally posted by TheDane
Any man who questions Ramsey, saying that he hesitates too much or doesn't make quick enough decisions, I say this to you:

He ain't hesitating for **** when he sees that 12 pointer. That tells you something about a man.

If you don't know, you better ask somebody. :point2sky

I'm sure that will come in handy the next time the Redskins compete on the Great Outdoors channel. But this is football.:laugh:

[LiveStrongSkins]

Originally posted by Heavy Jumbo


Did the comment about the jock strap worry anyone else but me?

I think Ramsey has a new friend. :paranoid:

:laugh:

This list shoulda definetly been top 4 reasons. But seriously though, while i think ramsey can have a great year im pretty sure he wont make the pro bowl. Definetly not in a offense where the QB is just asked to "dont mess up" Hed have a heck of time getting in over Vick,Culpepper,McNabb,Favre,Brunell...Etc... you get the picture....:laugh:

[NotInOurHouse]

I honestly think that ramsey isnt the best qb on the team and I guess the coaching staff shares the same thinking by trading three picks to get back in the first round to draft a qb

I cant name one thing that Ramsey has over Campbell other than a handful of games under this offense which will be semi changed with the edition of musgrave and the shotgun so that wont be enough

[OldTownFan]

ARE YOU SERIOUS OR STONED?

I can't think of 1 thing Campbell has over Ramsey..

Ramsey has a stronger arm
Better College Stats
including, a higher completion percentage
more yards, more touchdowns, less interceptions

Ramsey has experience in the NFL, and is a quick learner, earning the starting job in the latter half of his rookie season

Ramsey has a big heart, he plays tough, and when he's not running for his life, like he was with Spurrier, he makes good decisions, and is accurate....he plays poorly only when line coverage is piss poort, which in spurrier's offense was inherent, since he sent everybody but the center down the fileld, and in Gibbs offense, well that was a combination of Gibb's rust, and the transition from one quarterback to another in mid season, if Ramsey had the starting job all year long last season the skins would have had more than 6 wins guranteed.

[jtyler42]

Originally posted by RF4L
I'd be happy with just a solid season out of Patrick.:)

Pro-bowl predictions seem a bit carried away at this point.

Exactly!

[OldTownFan]

I mean he had a coach, in spurrier, who was screaming, 'for god's sake throw the ball as far as you can' and then a new coach telling him 'for god's sake don't thrown unless your absolutely sure where it's going', thats a huge transition, and he handled it well as the season went on, provided he only had 6 games to make the adjustments, pretty impressive. he also has the respect of the team, a huge factor, and further evidence that brunell was a bum and the system was a failure too, was the generally poor season everybody on the offense had, including clinton portis.
this year you will see more yards from portis, more effective use, better pass protection, better run blocking, better running routes, better throws, more accurate throws, more comfortability, meaning less mistakes, more talented recievers, and a downfield game that wasn't there...campbell could not produce any of that, and WHEN patrick ramsey does, campbell may never get the chance, on this team at least

[larry29]

if ramsey makes the pro bowl, well win the super bowl

[footballhenry]

aheem, look at my sig!! I should be starting this thread:nono:






but in seriousness, Ramsey will be a future probowler:)

[Redsk58417]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
Also, the poster, Reds58417, also fails to realize that the quarterback position is of prime importance, moreso than any other position. Now add the fact that in Washington D.C. where guys like Theismann and Jurgenson, past successful quarterbacks still rule the roost as prideful talk of the town, that in our football town, the quarterback position is so important, it's as talked about at your local watering whole as the President, or anything else for that matter. With this understanding, one should realize the obvious, if or when Patrick Ramsey makes the prow bowl, Snyder will keep him, keep his marketability on a team he is now renowned for marketing, and release the back-up Jason Campbell. Fred Smoot, in addition was nowhere near pro bowl level, had only one good year, and even then, was only good for about 10 of the 16 games, and ran his fat mouth in every game of every season, even when he was staring at the back of an opposing reciever's jersey, while the ball whistled over his head....

I know the QB position is important. No doubt. However, 3 QB's getting #1 starter $ in the salary cap era is not close to wise. Its good to have depth, but the cap prevents those days like in the 80's or 70's. I like Ramsey too, but honestly? Ramsey won't go for a "vet minimum" deal on his 2nd NFL contract. That is every players big pay day. Ramsey is a "stand up" dude, but he is going to want his $ if he performs. This is a "Contract year." And if AP was "Too expensive" with only a $6.5 mil bonus, what will Ramsey ask for? Mind you, the QB is the "Glamour" position and is paid likewise. '06 is supposed to be the Skins big Salary cap crunch year. So Ramsey getting a big pay day is unlikely. All the thanks goes to Brunell for that. As for Ramsey's "Marketability." What? He is an intravert. Not a loud mouthed "look at me" type of player that people pay to see. Ramsey is a "fan favorite" he will be missed. But so was "Smoooot." Ramsey will not get the big $ unless he leads the Skins to a 13-3 record. Ramsey is Spurrier's guy, not Gibbs.'

[jbooma]

It will be hard to get in the probowl with McNabb, Culpepper and Farve in front of Ramsey. Plus Ramsey is going to have new WR's this year, so there might be some adjustment time that could hurt him early on. I think he should have a good year but wouldn't bet on a probowl.

[NotInOurHouse]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
ARE YOU SERIOUS OR STONED?

I can't think of 1 thing Campbell has over Ramsey..

Ramsey has a stronger arm
Better College Stats
including, a higher completion percentage
more yards, more touchdowns, less interceptions

Ramsey has experience in the NFL, and is a quick learner, earning the starting job in the latter half of his rookie season

Ramsey has a big heart, he plays tough, and when he's not running for his life, like he was with Spurrier, he makes good decisions, and is accurate....he plays poorly only when line coverage is piss poort, which in spurrier's offense was inherent, since he sent everybody but the center down the fileld, and in Gibbs offense, well that was a combination of Gibb's rust, and the transition from one quarterback to another in mid season, if Ramsey had the starting job all year long last season the skins would have had more than 6 wins guranteed.



Im not sur if ramsey has a better arm even if he does Campbell is way more accurate. Campbell had a better qb rating in college than Ramsey and played against the SEC while Ramsey played against CUSA. I wouldnt call Ramsey a quick learner or makes good decisions during or after that Giants game in the Meadowlands last year. I cant remember in a long time when a Redskins qb played that poorly in one single game. Even sorry brunell with his 85yrds pass/game never did what Ramsey did which was partly the reason Gibbs had to go back to Brunell otherwise he wouldve sticked with Ramsey. Every one still says that he cant read defenses...When I say everyone I mean players on the other team.

[OldTownFan]

dude if ramsey has a pro bowl year, logic dictates that they are not going to pay 3 quarterbacks starter money, obviously.

so.

who do they let go...contracts aren't guranteed in the NFL...
THE STARTER...OR THE FAILED BACK UP OR THE EXPENSIVE ROOKIE WHO NOW WONT PLAY BECAUSE THE STARTER IS A PRO BOWLER...this isn't rocket science, they'll pay ramsey, trust me, if he has a break out year

[OldTownFan]

NotInOurHouse...not on my thread!

what you are saying is simply untrue, its not my opinion that ramsey's stats were better in college, its a statistical fact...and the facts, like completion percentage, show, that ramsey completes more passes that campbell, which last time i checked means he's the more accurate quarterback...

Jason who...we would not have heard of him if Auburn didn't go undefeated, and no, that wasn't all Campbell like it was Palmer at USC, Campbell's teammates, got drafted before him, at least three in fact...

[LiveStrongSkins]

:cheers: to ramsey having a great season. Hes a good guy and deserves it.

By the way, Oldtownfan i assume you live in old town alexandria. I live right off the beginning of telegraph. I can throw a rock and hit the hoffman center AMC. Havent seen too many people on here from the Alexandria area. :cheers: for the Dria!

[NotInOurHouse]

IF Ramsey makes the probowl great...then that means we would have a great season. But they will do the same thing SD did with Brees. We dont see Rivers on another team do we.

[OldTownFan]

and you show your lack of knowlege when you refer to the meadowlands game, when ramsey went in, it wasnt for a possible switch, everyboy knows that, it was simply out of necessity. if ramsey had led them to victory, he was on the bench the next sunday regardless...on top of that you must have forgot the skins were down by three touchdowns, or was it four?, and ramsey was called into a game down 3 scores with less than a half to play...did you think he was gonna hand off to portis...gibbs calls the plays in this offense, unlike manning in Indy, and it was gibbs calling for ramsey to throw deep, because they were down big time and desperate,....oh and on top of that, ramsey was not practicing, he was getting roughly 5% of the reps in practices. so he came in the game stone cold, if you want to be objective, if you want to be unbias, and not be so obvious of your biasness towards campbell, then you need to judge ramsey on how he played when he became the starter, opening 3 of his first 4 games on the road against the 3 best nfl teams in the league that year, which wasn't bad, he went 21 of 24 the last time they played the giants the same season, with 2 td and 0 int....everybody can clearly see that ramsey, like any other qb or human for that matter, plays better when he gets to practice during the work week...as showed when he became starter, and in 6 games surpassed brunells throwing yards, when brunell had 10 games...

[NotInOurHouse]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
NotInOurHouse...not on my thread!

what you are saying is simply untrue, its not my opinion that ramsey's stats were better in college, its a statistical fact...and the facts, like completion percentage, show, that ramsey completes more passes that campbell, which last time i checked means he's the more accurate quarterback...

Jason who...we would not have heard of him if Auburn didn't go undefeated, and no, that wasn't all Campbell like it was Palmer at USC, Campbell's teammates, got drafted before him, at least three in fact...


First of all Patrick Ramsey is the starting qb on my favorite team so I want him to do well as long as the team does well. Im just one of the guess few people who UNDERSTANDS why Gibbs drafted a qb in the first round.

[OldTownFan]

thats different, they have 2 qb's earning starting money, if ramsey plays well we would have 3, campbell, brunell, and ramsey...with ramsey the newly successful starter, how ya figure he gets cut or shipped out...

no.

what they'll do is say good riddance to brunell first, something they'll do after this season anyways... and if they can't afford both campbell and ramsey, then gibbs wont send out the pro bowler to start anew with a team ready to make a run, he'll go with what worked well, and say best of luck to campbell...this should be obvious

[NotInOurHouse]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
and you show your lack of knowlege when you refer to the meadowlands game, when ramsey went in, it wasnt for a possible switch, everyboy knows that, it was simply out of necessity. if ramsey had led them to victory, he was on the bench the next sunday regardless...on top of that you must have forgot the skins were down by three touchdowns, or was it four?, and ramsey was called into a game down 3 scores with less than a half to play...did you think he was gonna hand off to portis...gibbs calls the plays in this offense, unlike manning in Indy, and it was gibbs calling for ramsey to throw deep, because they were down big time and desperate,....oh and on top of that, ramsey was not practicing, he was getting roughly 5% of the reps in practices. so he came in the game stone cold, if you want to be objective, if you want to be unbias, and not be so obvious of your biasness towards campbell, then you need to judge ramsey on how he played when he became the starter, opening 3 of his first 4 games on the road against the 3 best nfl teams in the league that year, which wasn't bad, he went 21 of 24 the last time they played the giants the same season, with 2 td and 0 int....everybody can clearly see that ramsey, like any other qb or human for that matter, plays better when he gets to practice during the work week...as showed when he became starter, and in 6 games surpassed brunells throwing yards, when brunell had 10 games...


Ramsey called the things he did at the Meadowlands game stupid which they were. He knew it everyone knew it. He was throwing balls up for grabs with no Redskin in sight.

[Tarhog]

Lets knock off the personal jibes please. These are all opinions, not facts.

I've never understood why, to root for your favorite QB (in this case Ramsey), you have to beat down the challenger. We have no idea WHAT Jason Campbell can or will do when he gets real gametime experience. He may be the next Joe Montana, or the next Tony Banks. You don't know, I don't know, Joe Gibbs doesn't know. But denigrating him and praising Gibbs in the same breath ignores the fact that Gibbs himself sees something in Campbell. Something special enough to take him with a first round pick.

I hope Patrick lights it up this year. But he's not my brother-in-law. If he can't take it up a notch this year, Campbell will get a chance to compete. I have no doubt Ramsey himself would feel thats fair.

[NotInOurHouse]

Campbell will only make a little more than what Ramsey got for his first contract as a first rounder. Lets not for get that Ramsey was a first rounder and this will be his fifth year.

[OldTownFan]

yeah old town, yep, Old Town Alexandria is where its at....well not really if your looking for like a girls gone wild scene, but its still a fun place...i actually live closer to mt. vernon, about a mile up from the water...but Old Town is my home, my family used to live on Wolfe Street, which is right next to Duke Street....cheers to Alexandria...!!!

[OldTownFan]

that doesnt change the fact that he was in there to wing it....how did he perform in the return match against NY...???...when prepared, starting with 0 on the scoreboard, and having 4 quarters to play....????

[NotInOurHouse]

Originally posted by Tarhog
Lets knock off the personal jibes please. These are all opinions, not facts.

I've never understood why, to root for your favorite QB (in this case Ramsey), you have to beat down the challenger. We have no idea WHAT Jason Campbell can or will do when he gets real gametime experience. He may be the next Joe Montana, or the next Tony Banks. You don't know, I don't know, Joe Gibbs doesn't know. But denigrating him and praising Gibbs in the same breath ignores the fact that Gibbs himself sees something in Campbell. Something special enough to take him with a first round pick.

I hope Patrick lights it up this year. But he's not my brother-in-law. If he can't take it up a notch this year, Campbell will get a chance to compete. I have no doubt Ramsey himself would feel thats fair.


Thats all Im saying. Which is I want Ramsey to do well but its a wait and see just like its a wait and see with Campbell. Ramsey hasnt shown me anything to make me think he will be a probowler and Campbell hasnt shown me anything to make me think he is even a serviceable qb. All I do know is that Gibbs picked a qb in the first round for a reason.

[OldTownFan]

Campbell was a precautionary investment, i know that, gibbs knows that, even ramsey knows that, and its for that reason hes motivated to show people, it was an unnessary precaution, and when he does, what happens to the insurance plan....bye bye....

[NotInOurHouse]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
that doesnt change the fact that he was in there to wing it....how did he perform in the return match against NY...???...when prepared, starting with 0 on the scoreboard, and having 4 quarters to play....????


The offense opened up more. CP even said so himself, he even thought Brunell would benefit liked Ramsey even though that sounds crazy but he is with the both of them ALL of the time. By him saying that wasnt a full backing of Ramsey in my opinon.

[Tarhog]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
Campbell was a precautionary investment, i know that, gibbs knows that, even ramsey knows that, and its for that reason hes motivated to show people, it was an unnessary precaution, and when he does, what happens to the insurance plan....bye bye....

Says who? If theres one thing every NFL coach knows, its that you're one sack away from needing a high quality back-up. Brunnell is likely gone after this season. Who exactly do you think, assuming Ramsey does excel and retain the starter's position, will step in if he goes down?

Its not about one player. Are you really arguing we threw away a 1st round pick on Campbell simply to light a spark under Ramsey? It may put pressure on Ramsey, no doubt theres some truth to that. But they drafted the kid because he's talented and they see something in him worthy of the pick.

[NotInOurHouse]

oldtown:

you dont draft first rounders as precautionary

[OldTownFan]

right, but if he's that good, and he's stuck behind ramsey, he's not going to pull a tim hasselback and be content to go home to hot broad wife, he's going to worry about getting a chance to show what you think he's got, and he's smart to do that, and if that meant he had to go elsewhere he would...unless of course its like a steve young thing, following montana, but these days, its hard to keep two talented players like that on the same team for very long....but i agree, your one sack away, as Joe Theissman..but lets hope we never have to see campbell play for years to come...because that would more than likely mean we have more than 3 silver trophies

[OldTownFan]

you do if your quaterback is successful, we're not sure if we are grooming the future in campbell, right now he is precautionary, he only becomes the heir apparent, when it BECOMES APPARENT, that we need an heir apparent, and right now we wont know until after the season, and how ramsey plays, if he plays poor (which he wont) then campbell becomes more than precautionary your right, but if he does play good, than campbell remains precautionary, on the bench, and as the seasons go by, his itch to play grows, he may leave...

[NotInOurHouse]

you can say what you want but Gibbs I believe wants to develop is own qb and thats why he drafted him and will probably have him starting on the team before he goes to a front office position or wherever

[Redsk58417]

Originally posted by NotInOurHouse
you can say what you want but Gibbs I believe wants to develop is own qb and thats why he drafted him and will probably have him starting on the team before he goes to a front office position or wherever

Ding, Ding, Ding! Winner here! Ramsey is/was Spurrier's guy. He is a "fan favorite" due to his toughness etc. Gibbs brought in "His Guy" in Campbell, but for fairness he's giving a fair shot to start. What Ramsey does with it is up to him.

[Hooper]

It would be nice if he blew up like Brees but... well, I'll believe it when I see it. For all his heart and toughness, Ramsey doesn't see the field and has the horrible habit of locking in on one receiver and waiting for him to get open. He seems to lack the football instints so necessary to be a good qb in this league. I hope I'm wrong.

[ryerye05]

i really dont care if any of our players make the pro bowl i just wanna make the playoffs and go to a home playoff game!!

[Khun Kao]

If I recall correctly, Ramsey was not Spurrier's guy either.

OldTownFan..... I live just outside of OT, in Del Ray! Alexandrians rule!

(remember to vote today)

[OldTownFan]

will do everybody make sure you vote (Republican)

[skinshog]

Ramsey is the QB of our team right now, so lets all hope he has a good year, and give him our support :point2sky

[Redsk58417]

Originally posted by Khun Kao
If I recall correctly, Ramsey was not Spurrier's guy either.

OldTownFan..... I live just outside of OT, in Del Ray! Alexandrians rule!

(remember to vote today)

I beg to differ. Ramsey was drafted and groomed in the "Fun-N-Gun" offense, under Spurrier. Awful and Matthews started out then gave way to Ramsey. He (Ramsey) was picked during the Spurrier regime. Therefore? He was "Spurrier's guy."

[jrockster21]

Originally posted by OldTownFan
will do everybody make sure you vote (Republican)

Man, I had your back until you came out as a Republican. But I agree with you on Ramsey....

[OldTownFan]

PATRICK RAMSEY WILL BE OUR GUY, GIBB' GUY, WASHINGTON'S GUY, AND THE REDSKIN'S GUIDE TO A PLAYOFF BIRTH THIS YEAR

RAMSEY, RAMSEY, RAMSEY, RAMSEY, RAMSEY, c'mon, start a chant with me

[OldTownFan]

haha, not to open another can of worms but whats more hottly debated the redskins or politics, in washington?

[LightenupSandyBaby]

reason #4
He has a Elwayesque arm, and a John Wayne size jock strap, which means he has the tools to deliver, something many have not realized.

Is this observation from personal experience?

[Walking Deadman]

I doubt that PR will make the Pro Bowl as well....

But a QB rating of 90+, 25+ TDs, with only 10-12 INTs and a playoff bid would make me very happy.

[Monkart]

I just hope he's Playoff bound!!!!:D

[Monkart]

Originally posted by Redsk58417


Ding, Ding, Ding! Winner here! Ramsey is/was Spurrier's guy. He is a "fan favorite" due to his toughness etc. Gibbs brought in "His Guy" in Campbell, but for fairness he's giving a fair shot to start. What Ramsey does with it is up to him.

You are right he will give Ramsey a fair shot, do not forget he drafted Jay Schroeder (84) and didn't start him until Joe T. went down, He drafted Mark Rypien (86) Stan Humphries (88) cary Conklin (90)Chris Hakel (92). he has a pattern here a QB every 2 years regardless of how well the present Qb is doing. Didn't Stan have the starting job before Mark and yet Mark was drafted 2 years earlier. Ramsey will have to really suck ( Brunell bad ) before he is pulled from the line up, and lets hope that doesn't happen this year or you know who will be back in.:doh:
I think Ramsey will take advantage of his opportunity and help get us to the Playoffs.:cheers: