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big#44
June-29th-2005, 06:47 PM
I cant believe it hasnt been posted yet.(or did i miss it) They said he has a stress fracture in his foot and he'll probally miss the start of training camp. He's wearing a boot and is going to see specialists.

dreamingwolf
June-29th-2005, 06:54 PM
old news, but in the old news they said he should make training camp. he didnt participate at the end of the OTA's

big#44
June-29th-2005, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by dreamingwolf
old news, but in the old news they said he should make training camp. he didnt participate at the end of the OTA's

oh really... it was the first i heard about it. :)

flexxskins
June-29th-2005, 07:06 PM
The fracture is old news, but I did not know that he was in a boot. I definately did not know that he would be missing some of training camp.

Fred Jones
June-29th-2005, 07:21 PM
Fractures can take up to eight weeks to heal depending on how bad the fracture is and how well the individual heals. It sounds like he will be restricted in the early stages of camp. As long as he is here learning he should be ok. He wasn't going to start opening day anyway so no worries.

bulldog
June-29th-2005, 07:27 PM
hence the appearance of Artrell Hawkins :)

bubba9497
June-29th-2005, 07:46 PM
Lott had a hairline fracture... I thought Rodgers was a sprained ankle?

:whoknows:

HOF44
June-29th-2005, 07:48 PM
I thought it was Rogers ankle. That he was being kept out as a precaution.

I heard Andre Lott had the hairline fracture and was in a boot but will be ready for camp.

Are they confusing the 2 or is Rogers really hurt?

HOF44
Bob

HOF44
June-29th-2005, 07:49 PM
Beat me to it Bubba :-)

HOF44
Bob

skinshog
June-29th-2005, 07:57 PM
Woah, that headline scared me. Its Lott who has the fracture last I heard.

Bat~man
June-29th-2005, 08:01 PM
i htought it was lott also , .....

PleaseBlitz
June-29th-2005, 08:15 PM
Rogers just has a sprained ankle, because i remember everyone giving him props for practicing through the pain. You dont practice through the pain on a fractured foot......at least not during OTA's.

stram22
June-29th-2005, 08:25 PM
So is the report wrong?

Is it a sprained ankle or a stress fracture?

Romberjo
June-29th-2005, 08:37 PM
Story on Lott's hairline stress fracture just below knee (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=1444213#post1444213)

"ASHBURN, Va. (AP) - Washington Redskins safety Andre Lott has a hairline fracture just below his knee, although the team expects him to be ready for training camp.
Lott hyperextended the knee during minicamp over the weekend, and tests detected the fracture. He'll be on crutches for four weeks, then will have two weeks to prepare for the start of training camp on Aug. 31.

Lott played in four games last year before tearing a pectoral muscle in a loss to Green Bay, ending his season. He re-signed with the Redskins as a restricted free agent in April."

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This is a puzzler. Lott has a hairline stress fracture -- but it's near the knee, so it wouldn't make sense for him to be in a boot. It could be that Rogers's "ankle sprain" turned out to be more serious.

HOF44
June-29th-2005, 08:44 PM
Where's Andyman when we need him :-)

HOF44
Bob

Dale
June-29th-2005, 08:44 PM
Here's a link to the Rogers thing:

The snakebit secondary

By Adam Schefter
Special to NFL.com


June 29, 2005) -- Just when it seemed like the Redskins secondary couldn't be hit any harder this offseason, it has been. First-round pick Carlos Rogers suffered a stress fracture in his right foot that has left him in a walking boot the past couple of weeks.

After meeting with a series of doctors, Rogers is expected to have his foot checked out again this week. But the bottom line is that the ninth overall pick from this year's draft might not be ready for the start of training camp. The Redskins do not consider the injury to be alarming, but it is something to be monitored and precautions will be taken.

Rogers initially hurt his right ankle at minicamp and then spent some time rehabbing it. But when doctors examined the foot again, they discovered a stress fracture that may have been a pre-existing injury.

Now, after losing cornerback Fred Smoot to the Vikings and watching safety Sean Taylor get entangled in the law, the Redskins are looking at a setback for their first-round pick.

Had Rogers been completely healthy, it's unlikely he would have made a major push for a starting job anyway.

Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams likes to bring along his defensive backs slowly, like he did last year with the draft's fifth overall pick, Taylor. Williams is very careful not to jeopardize the confidence of his young defensive backs, and Rogers likely would have been in the same situation, especially with veteran cornerback Walt Harris stepping in to try to replace Smoot. Still, the Redskins want Rogers to get as much experience in training camp as possible, and at this point, they are hopeful his foot will heal in enough time for him to get those practice reps. But how many he will be able to get, and how soon, remains in question.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/8607212

SkinsForLife260
June-29th-2005, 08:49 PM
I wanted him to start and compete for rookie of the year.
But again he needs to understand the game and all that stuff. Everything should be fine.

Woofer
June-29th-2005, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by flexxskins
The fracture is old news, but I did not know that he was in a boot. I definately did not know that he would be missing some of training camp.

Maybe it's an old boot.

skinstzar
June-29th-2005, 08:56 PM
Stress fractures can linger for a long time. I don't really care if he misses all of training camp. He will be in meetings plus he is a heady kid and the learning curve for a corner is not that of a safety or MLB. He is going to be stellar.

Woofer
June-29th-2005, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Dale
Here's a link to the Rogers thing:

The snakebit secondary

By Adam Schefter
Special to NFL.com



...the Redskins are looking at a setback for their first-round pick.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/8607212

I've heard of running backs and cornerbacks, but what the heck is a setback?




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autographcollector
June-29th-2005, 09:04 PM
I hadn't heard about it

Warhead36
June-29th-2005, 09:21 PM
He wasn't going to start anyway.

He'll be okay. I had a friend who had the same type of injury(probably not as severe since he isn't an athlete)and was okay in a few weeks.

barry wilburn
June-29th-2005, 09:30 PM
Stress fractures are no big deal?

What about our old friend Coles and his stress fracture?

Dirk Diggler
June-29th-2005, 09:50 PM
This is not a "good" injury.

I'd have actually preferred a sprained knee (torn MCL) or almost any other broken bone. An injury like this figures to take 6-8 weeks to heal assuming there's no surgery required. Even with that good luck - you'd figure he needs at least another 4 weeks to get into football shape. By this time, he'll have missed all possible live action (preseason).

I would say that conservatively speaking, he'll be inactive for the first month of the season and probably get eased in by playing special teams. I wouldn't expect any CB action for the first half of the season and frankly, I'd be happy if he just contributes this year in any form.

pennywise
June-29th-2005, 09:52 PM
http://cineblog.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/chickenlittle03.jpg

Jaron
June-29th-2005, 10:13 PM
This has been one of the most frustrating off-seasons EVER.

33
June-29th-2005, 10:16 PM
At best he's going to start the season at Nickel back.

I know he's the ninth pick of the draft and all, but we are freaking out about our nickel back here. Seriously, I would be much more concerned if this were Walt Harris. It isn't a bad thing for rookies to have some time to watch.

chow184
June-29th-2005, 10:16 PM
Treating stress fractures

Treatment will depend on the location of the stress fracture. Most stress fractures will heal if you reduce your level of activity and wear protective footwear for two to four weeks. Your orthopaedist may recommend that you wear a stiff-soled shoe, a wooden-soled sandal, or a removable short leg fracture brace shoe. Athletes should switch to a sport that puts less stress on the foot and leg. Swimming and bicycle riding are good alternative activities.

Stress fractures in the fifth metatarsal bone (on the outer side of the foot) or in the navicular or talus bones take longer to heal, perhaps as long as six to eight weeks. Your orthopaedist may apply a cast to your foot or recommend that you use crutches until the bone heals. In some cases, you may need surgery so that the orthopaedist can insert a screw in the bone to ensure proper healing.







worst case scenario,he is out 6-8 weeks.I also heard Coles developed arthritis in his bad toe.

ciresolstice
June-29th-2005, 10:21 PM
not good..but not the worst either. like most said here..he most likely wouldnt start anyway...Im sure he would be eased into a starting role after 4-5 games perhaps..maybe longer with this injury. but Walt would probably start..or some combination of Walt, Wilds etc.

flexxskins
June-29th-2005, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by bhayesp
At best he's going to start the season at Nickel back.

I know he's the ninth pick of the draft and all, but we are freaking out about our nickel back here. Seriously, I would be much more concerned if this were Walt Harris. It isn't a bad thing for rookies to have some time to watch. Huh? This guy was picked #9 over-all for a reason and it was'nt to play nickel back.

flexxskins
June-30th-2005, 12:19 AM
Damn, it is a fracture.

JRAB
June-30th-2005, 01:05 AM
Great.

These sort of injuries always seem to linger... not to mention that it could keep getting re-injured if he isn't careful and tries to rush back.

What next?

Parlett316
June-30th-2005, 01:21 AM
Well all the good offseasons have finally come back to haunt us and bad things are happening.

Oh well, life will go on.

For most of us.

33
June-30th-2005, 01:39 AM
Originally posted by flexxskins
Huh? This guy was picked #9 over-all for a reason and it was'nt to play nickel back.

Hey Flexx,

To start the season he will be a nickel back. It's Williams' philosophy not to start rookie DB's early on. He doesn't want them to get burned and have a head issue about it. He has already stated that Sean Taylor starter earlier for him(week 3) than any other rookie DB. And he has also called Taylor the best athlete he has coached, period.

I know he was drafted #9, but he wasn't drafted to start off the bat. They have said for a long time that they got no problem with Walt Harris starting. And frankly neither do I. He's big and he's done it before. Not to mention he fits into Williams' blitzing scheme quite well.

Rosgers will start, but not off the bat if you trust what Williams has said so far.

TankRizzo
June-30th-2005, 07:47 AM
just thought I'd throw this in. footballguys.com e-mail update:


Clipped from: ESPN News Services 6/29/05

Carlos Rogers, the Auburn cornerback who was the No. 9 pick overall in this year's NFL draft, reportedly has a stress fracture in his right foot, and may miss the start of the Washington Redskins' training camp, which begins July 31.

According to the Washington Post, the Redskins apparently believed Rogers was sidelined by a minor ankle sprain when he missed the team's two mini-camps. However, Rogers has been walking in a protective boot over the past two weeks.

The Post said the NFL Network was the first to reveal the severity of Rogers's injury during a broadcast Wednesday. According to the network, doctors discovered the stress fracture - which may have been a pre-existing injury - after examining Rogers's foot. The 5-foot-11, 199-pound cornerback is expected to have his foot re-examined this week, the Post said.

The Redskins did not provide an update of Rogers's injury Wednesday, and his agent, Todd France, could not be reached to comment, the Post reported in Thursday's editions.

It is believed Rogers originally suffered the injury last month at Auburn University, where he was working out on his own. During mini-camp (June 17 to June 19), Rogers said the injury occurred when he stepped onto an uneven surface. Rogers participated in Washington's final organized team activity on June 16, and aggravated the injury the next day, the first of mini-camp. Rogers sat out the following practice, according to the Post.

Rogers is behind Walt Harris, a nickel back last season who is projected as the starting cornerback opposite Shawn Springs . But the Redskins see Rogers as a replacement for Fred Smoot, who departed via free agency to Minnesota. Last Thursday, the Redskins signed cornerback Artrell Hawkins, a former Panthers reserve, to provide depth, the Post said.

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And the hits keep on rolling for Washington...Rogers wasn't expected to start but the Redskins defensive backfield needs all the depth they can get right now with the legal troubles of Sean Taylor. We'll obviously watch this one for you but it's a red flag right now.

bird_1972
June-30th-2005, 07:51 AM
Regular fractures generally take 6 wks to heal ... not sure about stress fractures. That puts him back in the mix smack in the middle of training camp. At least Rogers isn't the starter.

Thinking Skins
June-30th-2005, 08:24 AM
Why haven't I seen anything from redskins.com regarding this injury? I think I heard Williams talk about it a little, but I figure they'd do a story talking about what it is and how long it will take

halter91
June-30th-2005, 08:30 AM
I think the whole secondary had their ankles amputated.

SlobberKnockinFootball
June-30th-2005, 08:46 AM
Guys, just relax. They are just saying he might miss the BEGINNING of training camp. I didn't see anything about him missing half the season. He will be ready come opening day. I have no doubt about that.

Everyone breath in...and say.... Mommybox.... exhale.

wskin44
June-30th-2005, 08:51 AM
Somedays we have to be lawyers. Somedays we have to be doctors.

If this was a pre-existing fracture it may have already started the healing process. If the original injury happened back in May at Auburn and at least started to heal, he may be ready sooner than the end of training camp.

bird_1972
June-30th-2005, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by SlobberKnockinFootball
Guys, just relax. They are just saying he might miss the BEGINNING of training camp. I didn't see anything about him missing half the season. He will be ready come opening day. I have no doubt about that.

Everyone breath in...and say.... Mommybox.... exhale.

Exactly. I'd rather this injury happen at this time of year, on a player who is not a starter. A fracture isn't a career or even season ending injury. I think all of the hubub has to do with this being the offseason. Otherwise, something like this would be little more than a blip on the radar screen.

Loki
June-30th-2005, 08:56 AM
In the Post they mentioned something along the lines of Rogers first acquiring the fracture while @ Auburn. I hope this is not going to be a recurring theme.....:helmet: