First it was Tim Brown and Jerry Rice, now could it be Randy Moss and...TO?

[Parlett316]

Raiders | Looking to Acquire Owens?
Thu, 30 Jun 2005 09:41:47 -0700

WPVI.com reports there is some speculation the Philadelphia Eagles could trade WR Terrell Owens to the Oakland Raiders for WR Jerry Porter. If the trade were to occur, the Raiders would have two of the best wide receivers in the NFL: Randy Moss and Terrell Owens. Moss told reporters Wednesday, June 29, he could co-exist with Owens as long as he got the number of passes he deserves.

:monocle:

I guess they didn't hear about a salary cap.

[kappaluvacee]

The story broke on a local TV station in Philly. I don't have a link so I haven't posted this story. Sirius NFL Radio has been talking about it all morning. The Philly TV station reported that the Eagles are trying to work out the trade with the raiders. They even had a sound bite from Moss saying he can co-exist with T.O as long as he gets the proper number of balls that should be thrown in his direction. Hold on guys, this story has twists and turns ahead.

[englitdaudelin]

How many passes does Randy Moss "deserve?"

[Clinton Portis]

Woah! What a nice trade that would be....man....the Oakland Fanbase has GOT to be excited about the possibility of THAT tandem...

I'm stunned.

How would it work?
Would they REALLY get along?

What a exciting trade! :2cents: :eaglesuck

[SkinsHokieFan]

You think NORV can handle those egos?

Bwhahahaha

[Parlett316]

Originally posted by englitdaudelin
How many passes does Randy Moss "deserve?"

A gazillion trillion.

[Drex]

Interesting to say the least.

[Higgs44]

I see 2 HUGE problems with this trade:

1: Oakland still has no Defense
2: Kerry Collins the turnover machine is the QB

[pennywise]

http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/sports/06302005_sp_owenstrade.html

Owens' Days as Bird Numbered?
PHILADELPHIA-June 30, 2005 — With all the contract squabbles continuing, are the Eagles about to give T.O. the heave-ho?


There are reports a trade is in the works with the Oakland Raiders. Owens would go to Oakland for wide receiver Jerry Porter.

T.O. may be trade bait because he wants the Eagles to give him more money.

If he goes to Oakland, the Raiders would have two of the best wide receivers in the NFL: Terrell Owens, and Randy Moss.

Yesterday, Moss told reporters he could co-exist with T.O. as long as he got the number of passes he deserves.

(Copyright 2005 by WPVI-TV 6. All rights reserved.)

[SkinsGuy]

Originally posted by englitdaudelin
How many passes does Randy Moss "deserve?"


As long as it's more than Owens would get. :)

[SkinsGuy]

Originally posted by SkinsHokieFan
You think NORV can handle those egos?

Bwhahahaha


:laugh:


Turner couldn't handle Micheal Westbrook. :)


It would be a lot of fun seeing him trying to handle these two.

[skins1972]

WOw what a trade that would be but how can Oakland handle the Cap?? Do they have room or should I ask how much room do they have? :eaglesuck

[RedskinzOwnU]

Wow, in my opinion that would be a terrible trade for the raiders. What do they gain? 1, maybe 2 years with a good receiver who is a team cancer. And they would give up a young receiver with huge potential in the process. Will it help them get to the superbowl or further their season aspirations at all? Unlikely, because the defense is trash. The arguments over who gets more balls, collins' sexuality because TO doesnt get passes when he wants them, and strains on the team in general makes this a very bad trade for oakland. Meanwhile philly would get a very good receiver that we'd have to face for many years to come.

[Parlett316]

Originally posted by skins1972
WOw what a trade that would be but how can Oakland handle the Cap?? Do they have room or should I ask how much room do they have? :eaglesuck

I could see them cutting everyone on defense and try to do what Indy does, score more.

[tr1]

Norv has to be saying, "No...no...no...no...no......."

[Parlett316]

Originally posted by RedskinzOwnU
Wow, in my opinion that would be a terrible trade for the raiders. What do they gain? 1, maybe 2 years with a good receiver who is a team cancer. And they would give up a young receiver with huge potential in the process. Will it help them get to the superbowl or further their season aspirations at all? Unlikely, because the defense is trash. The arguments over who gets more balls, collins' sexuality because TO doesnt get passes when he wants them, and strains on the team in general makes this a very bad trade for oakland. Meanwhile philly would get a very good receiver that we'd have to face for many years to come.

Al Davis doesn't care, he loves to see high score games, long bomb touchdowns. They will be the most exciting team in NFL history.

I really doubt any team could keep up with their scoring.

[Westbrook36]

Serious question. What would you guys think about the Philly receiving corps if the trade went down?

[Parlett316]

Originally posted by Westbrook36
Serious question. What would you guys think about the Philly receiving corps if the trade went down?

It would take a hit. Porter isn't in TO's caliber.

[Art]

The Raiders just gave Porter a good contract. To trade him would require a cap hit, and they would presumably give Owens money, which is more. But, cash solves cap, so, Davis could do it if he's willing to eat the money.

[BG]

Yes it's the summer doldrums folks...
To answer WB, Porter is a great reciever...but no TO.

[Art]

Originally posted by Westbrook36
Serious question. What would you guys think about the Philly receiving corps if the trade went down?

I think where I'd now say you have the best receivers BECAUSE of Owens, you'd drop to fourth with Porter instead. The Giants would move to the top. Cowboys would be second because Keyshawn has proven to be a consistent option. Skins would be third for having a guy somewhat more productive in the lead role and better competence in reserve than the Eagles.

[Westbrook36]

Porter is no TO, let's not even put them in the same sentence. Sometimes, it seems Reid's philosphy is to build things for the long term, to always have a chance to grab the ultimate prize at the end, which we haven't done yet.

Porter knows the WCO so the learning curve wouldn't be too great. Pair him with Reggie Brown, and even Greg Lewis, and you have a potentially potent receiving corps for the rest of DMacs days.

Problem is we wouldn't be as strong in 05.

[GoSkinsGo]

WB you guys would take a hit in the now but long term you may be better off. Porter is a young guy who after year of learning make a pretty solid tandem w/ Lewis.

I dunno but I would see it being far fetched you made it back to the big game without T.O.

[Henry]

Originally posted by Art


I think where I'd now say you have the best receivers BECAUSE of Owens, you'd drop to fourth with Porter instead. The Giants would move to the top. Cowboys would be second because Keyshawn has proven to be a consistent option. Skins would be third for having a guy somewhat more productive in the lead role and better competence in reserve than the Eagles.

I think I'd have to agree completely here. Porter'd make a nice #2 and all, but Porter/Pinkston .... yeeech.

[Beaudry]

Didn't those two badmouth each other last season? I thought Moss said something about Owens not getting the double-teams. Owens responded, but I don't recall anything else.

Just for reference, Moss did play for a hall of fame receiver in Cris Carter. They were quite a pair for a few years there.

Vikings 200 season stats
Randy Moss 77 1437 18.7 15
Cris Carter 96 1274 13.3 9

1999 season stats
Randy Moss 80 1413 17.7 11
Cris Carter 90 1241 13.8 13

[Hooper]

This would be a great move for Philly. TO's more trouble than he's worth.

[Henry]

Originally posted by Beaudry
Just for reference, Moss did play for a hall of fame receiver in Cris Carter. They were quite a pair for a few years there.

Vikings 200 season stats
Randy Moss 77 1437 18.7 15
Cris Carter 96 1274 13.3 9

1999 season stats
Randy Moss 80 1413 17.7 11
Cris Carter 90 1241 13.8 13

That great. Who's the possession WR, Moss or Owens?

[SKINtil8tin]

Originally posted by tr1
Norv has to be saying, "No...no...no...no...no......."

I can't imagine too much that if Al Davis wanted T.O., Norv would have a whole lot of input. Mr. Davis would do what Mr. Davis wants to do-his ego would allow nothing else.

[Parlett316]

Originally posted by Henry


That great. Who's the possession WR, Moss or Owens?

hahhahahahahhah

They are just going to go deep every play.

[tr1]

Originally posted by Westbrook36
Porter is no TO, let's not even put them in the same sentence. Sometimes, it seems Reid's philosphy is to build things for the long term, to always have a chance to grab the ultimate prize at the end, which we haven't done yet.

Porter knows the WCO so the learning curve wouldn't be too great. Pair him with Reggie Brown, and even Greg Lewis, and you have a potentially potent receiving corps for the rest of DMacs days.

Problem is we wouldn't be as strong in 05.

I know this sounds bizarre, but I think you guys will miss FredEx more than you'd like to think.

[Westbrook36]

Originally posted by tr1


I know this sounds bizarre, but I think you guys will miss FredEx more than you'd like to think.

Do you think before you post or do you just throw out the most homeristic views with no real merit when it comes to the Eagles?

So you honestly think we are going to miss his 1.3 catches per game out of the slot? Serious question.

You don't think Reid can plug ANYONE into the slot and get the same results? Do you remember us picking up a 50 year Freeman and having him catch like 50 some ball out of the slot 3 years ago?

So to answer your original point, no it doesn't sound bizarre. To say bizarre would give your ridiculous assertion to spin doom upon the Eagles some credence.

[jimster]

Owens for Porter, wouldn't that be like Coles for Moss.

Now why in the world would the Eagles do that?:laugh:

[Westbrook36]

Originally posted by jimster
Owens for Porter, wouldn't that be like Coles for Moss.

Now why in the world would the Eagles do that?:laugh:

Probably because in the Eagles minds, 05 was Owens final year no matter what.

There were whispers that the Birds had a 5 year offer locked and loaded if Porter hit free agency. Now, the Raiders take a hit on the signing bonus and the Eagles get Porter for what, a million a year for the next 3 years?

[tr1]

Originally posted by Westbrook36


Do you think before you post or do you just throw out the most homeristic views with no real merit when it comes to the Eagles?

So you honestly think we are going to miss his 1.3 catches per game out of the slot? Serious question.

You don't think Reid can plug ANYONE into the slot and get the same results? Do you remember us picking up a 50 year Freeman and having him catch like 50 some ball out of the slot 3 years ago?

So to answer your original point, no it doesn't sound bizarre. To say bizarre would give your ridiculous assertion to spin doom upon the Eagles some credence.

Ah WB, WB...

When FredEx lights it up in KC while the Eagles are starting over with new receivers (though I hope you guys can work it out with TO), you'll see my point.

Freddie didn't have the numbers because McNabb didn't want to throw to him. The one time he did, Freddie bailed McNabb's butt out by making a sensational catch in the playoffs.

But, once again, you're left attacking a poster instead of making your rebuttal. It's your typical MO. Too bad you had to leave the nipple too early.

[jimster]

Originally posted by Westbrook36


Probably because in the Eagles minds, 05 was Owens final year no matter what.

There were whispers that the Birds had a 5 year offer locked and loaded if Porter hit free agency. Now, the Raiders take a hit on the signing bonus and the Eagles get Porter for what, a million a year for the next 3 years?

but wouldn't getting rid of a player just because he's disgruntled, for a player of a lesser talent be insane?

[tr1]

Originally posted by jimster


but wouldn't getting rid of a player just because he's disgruntled, for a player of a lesser talent be insane?
:cheers: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[skinzfan4life]

Ive very interested to see how the media reacts if this happens...the skisn were "fools" for the moss coles deal, but somehow i see the media spinning it so that the eagles are a genious if they make this trade.

I cant complain, id rather defend porter then TO, although they locked him down pretty good last year.

[Goaldeje]

Originally posted by skinzfan4life
Ive very interested to see how the media reacts if this happens...the skisn were "fools" for the moss coles deal, but somehow i see the media spinning it so that the eagles are a genious if they make this trade.

I cant complain, id rather defend porter then TO, although they locked him down pretty good last year.


But Porter lit up Chump, right? So our crappy secondary has NO chance now, right?

[tkpckfan]

i think the trade is crap myself. I mean they would have cap problems in a couple of years just like the they did the season after they lost the superbowl to the bucs and then had to cut everyone.

[jimster]

Originally posted by skinzfan4life
Ive very interested to see how the media reacts if this happens...the skisn were "fools" for the moss coles deal, but somehow i see the media spinning it so that the eagles are a genious if they make this trade.

I cant complain, id rather defend porter then TO, although they locked him down pretty good last year.

That is exactly how I can see it. - The Eagles will be honored for being bold enough to get rid of a problem player and taking a cap hit doing it.

[Hooper]

Fred-Ex couldn't light up a Christmas tree -- that punk will do nothing in KC. The Eagles will miss him about as much as the skins miss George Edwards.

And trading TO for Porter would be a great trade for the Eagles. Porter is younger, cheaper, and more of a team player. The Eagles front office is as good as it gets -- it pisses me off.

[Skindrodamus]

I think i would miss Taylor punching TO in the face too much, but i guess it is good cuz maybe this year Taylor would be packing. haha jk

FREE TAYLOR! (Pro Bowler 2005)

[Spaceman Spiff]

TO and Moss in the same locker room...remember in Back to the Future when present day McFly couldn't let future McFly see him or else there'd be some catastrophic occurance and the universe would collapse on itself or something? This is what would happen.

[stupidsuck]

TO and Moss on the same team vying for catches?

I can see them both taking turns tag team style yelling at poor ol Norval on the sidelines now....

[SKINtil8tin]

Originally posted by tr1

When FredEx lights it up in KC while the Eagles are starting over with new receivers (though I hope you guys can work it out with TO), you'll see my point.



Not even trying to interfere with this nice little argument you have with Westbrook36, but do you really believe this line you said about fredex? Won't he have to be able to get on the field in order to light it up? :laugh:

[tr1]

Originally posted by SKINtil8tin



Not even trying to interfere with this nice little argument you have with Westbrook36, but do you really believe this line you said about fredex? Won't he have to be able to get on the field in order to light it up? :laugh:

Yeah, it was a stretch...but WB is loath to admit any mistakes his Eagles make.

For the record, Freddie sucks.

[TaylorPickSix]

wow. that is some interesting stuff.
could be a good move for both team. I think the Raiders could make it back to the super bowl with that offense (Moss, Owens, Curry, Jordan, Teyo Johnson...who cares who plays QB!) and unseat the Patriots. Yeah, I said it. They could because New England's corners are pure CRAP (yet they somehow get the job done thanks to two great safeties).
As for the Eagles, I still see them winning the division even if this trade goes down, but they will win it with like a 11-5 record instead of the 13-3 of last year. Their WR corps WILL be better int he long run (Porter, Lewis, and Brown is a nice trio), but it will hurt for the next two years.

[Om]

PLEASE let this happen.

Not so much for the uber-talent-drain impact on Philly, but for the utterly delicious, manic daily circus it would be to watch Norv Turner try to juggle Al Davis, Kerry Collins, Randy Moss and Terrell Owens every Sunday. :)

I'd catch every damn Raiders game I could just for the entertainment value alone. The added attraction of seeing a throwback of a downfield bomber like Collins heave it up to the best WR tandem in NFL history every Sunday would just be icing on the cake.

Can't really see this happening, but man it's fun to think about.

[Waleo32]

Originally posted by englitdaudelin
How many passes does Randy Moss "deserve?"

He deserves most of the touches. When healthy, there's nobody like Moss!!

[tr1]

The real reason TO would like to go to Oakland is that it is across the Bay from San Francisco. They share the same media market. He'd like to continue to stick it to 49er fans.... 'cause that's just the kind of guy he is.

[TaylorPickSix]

This trade would make the NFL so much more interesting. it NEEDS to happen.

[skinshog]

T.O. cried about Garcia, and he was a pro-bowler, T.O. cried about Philly, after he went to the Super Bowl with the team and had another pro-bowl qb. Now he'll have Kerry Collins w/ his rival on the same side of the ball as him? Yea, he won't cry....

[themurf]

Terrell Owens: Headed to Raiders?
RotoWire.com Staff - RotoWire.com
Thursday, June 30, 2005

Update: A report has surfaced that the Eagles are in negotiations with the Raiders on a trade that would send Owens to Oakland for Jerry Porter, according to ABC sports.

Recommendation: Randy Moss told reporters Wednesday he could co-exist with Owens as long as he receives the number of passes he deserves. We doubt that the two receivers would get along in Oakland but the Eagles appear to be so upset with Owens that they would be willing to put the best two receivers in the league on the same team. This would initially cloud the value of both players but stay tuned for more rumors.

[Luca Brasi]

:doh:

[Vman2k6]

that doesnt sound right, whats the source

[Truant]

WTF...

well... for the Eagles sake, there's no way you make that deal... even with a second rounder thrown in.

But I'd much rather deal with Porter than TO, without question. The Raiders would be terrifying. Can you imagine what Champ's thinking?

[themurf]

Dear Vman2k6,

In order to make the rumor easier for slower people, I put the website it came from on the original message. And please remember - it is only a rumor.

Hugs,

murf.

[Kilmer]

Don't know if it is related, but my virus scan went off when I went to that website.

[Luca Brasi]

Originally posted by themurf
Dear Vman2k6,

In order to make the rumor easier for slower people, I put the website it came from on the original message. And please remember - it is only a rumor.

Hugs,

murf.

You may also want to include a link to the 4 page thread about this posted earlier today.....for the slow people of course.

[dannyboy70]

Crap. And we gotta play the Raiders.

[TaylorPickSix]

Originally posted by Truant
WTF...

well... for the Eagles sake, there's no way you make that deal... even with a second rounder thrown in.

But I'd much rather deal with Porter than TO, without question. The Raiders would be terrifying. Can you imagine what Champ's thinking?
"Hmm...I leave the Skins, and they have the #3 defense in the NFL. I left for what, to go up against TO and Moss twice a year?"

by the way, theres another thread on this, and my guess is it will be merged very soon, with this as the title though cuz the other one is a bit confusing.

[Destino]

Originally posted by themurf
Dear Vman2k6,

In order to make the rumor easier for slower people, I put the website it came from on the original message. And please remember - it is only a rumor.

Hugs,

murf.

More links less attitude?

[stupidsuck]

more here:
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=105143

[themurf]

If you saw Jerry Porter burn Champ last year (Week 12: six catches for 135 yards and three touchdowns), then you know Champ's gotta be happy Porter is gone - even if it means T.O. might be on his way.

[RDSCNZ20]

i guess i would rather face porter than TO.. so hope it works out..

[SamSneed36]

Oakland would have a sick offense if norv could control them, but im not sure any coach could. really dont see how any team could have both of those guys on the roster

[TaylorPickSix]

the raiders should hire larry brown of the pistons as their new head coach.

[bubba9497]

I believe the eagles FO shot the rumor down a few weeksago

[Westbrook36]

Originally posted by tr1


Ah WB, WB...

When FredEx lights it up in KC while the Eagles are starting over with new receivers (though I hope you guys can work it out with TO), you'll see my point.

Freddie didn't have the numbers because McNabb didn't want to throw to him. The one time he did, Freddie bailed McNabb's butt out by making a sensational catch in the playoffs.

But, once again, you're left attacking a poster instead of making your rebuttal. It's your typical MO. Too bad you had to leave the nipple too early.

FredEx is going to light it up in KC!?!? :laugh: :laugh: Your football card should be revoked, and you should have to ask me permission to post for now on after saying that. :laugh:

Yeah, poor Freddie would have been a star.....that damn McNabb just signaled him out and wouldn't throw him the ball. :doh: :laugh:

[jstimac]

Originally posted by TaylorPickSix
the raiders should hire larry brown of the pistons as their new head coach.

They need the zen master Phil Jackson to try to get the two of them to coexist.

[Heidenreich]

Om, I agree. I would watch every Raider game this season, just to see those two.

And if this deal goes down, Lamont Jordan becomes a top three fantasy back. If defenses have to double Randy & T.O., that's only seven to stop the run right off the bat......

[TXREDSKINS44]

I know the article said that the Eagles would pay some of TO’s contract, but still would the Raiders be able to afford both TO and Moss?

[citigent]

it would even work for the raiders would it , they are pretty close to the cap and they just resigned porter so they'd take a big hit for dealing him, as would the eagles but they are always in pretty good cap wise so they probaly could deal owens.??? just thinking out loud i could be wrong about this though.

[TODD]

This would be GREAT.

[TK]

Guys

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[tkpckfan]

damn the rumor is now on yahoo

[Westbrook36]

Eskin just said there is zero chance so that means there is a slight chance.

[Warhead36]

Raiders get better short term value, Eagles get better long term value.

I wouldn't mind seeing it. Besides even when we play Oakland this year, we got Springs who shut down TO last year, and hell even Garnell Wilds helped lock down Moss last year, so we're good. :)

[dg28daman]

That would be absolutely insane. Moss and TO would definatly not work. Can you imagine the amount of complaining about "not giving me the ball" that would be happenning if this were to happen?

[PapaDRoc]

I just have no idea how those two ego's could coexist together. It would definetely be an interesting trade though. Might not be a bad trade for Philly either.

[soljaofjesus]

this can be interesting

[GSF]

I think it would actually be a good trade for Philly, like the Coles trade will turn out good for the Skins. Sometimes your just better off without some guys, no matter how good they are. I think McNabb had his confidence shaken by TO last year. Shipping TO out makes the team McNabbs again, which is how it should be. Adding Porter would also give Philly some nice speed with him and Lewis.

As far as Oakland goes, I'm with Om. Rubber-necking that trainwreck would just be irresistible. No doubt that offense would be explosive, and Norv knows how to get the ball down field. What he doesn't know how to do though is handle some of the players with large egos. Keeping those 2 guys in check would be a nightmare. I could see the Raiders starting off real strong, and just falling apart by week 10.

[Warhead36]

I want to see this trade occur just to see what happens. It's like watching NASCAR to see a wreck. It would be exciting.

[[[ghost]]]

that would be the scariest tandem in the world. i'd rather not have the two of them though, cus they would b**** like whoah.

[shippy1973]

TO calls Garcia basically a homo...then complains about McNabb in Philly....what the hell would happen in Oakland with Randy Moss AND Kerry freakin Collins?? IMO...it would be a disaster. But one that should be fun as hell to watch especially with Norval!!

[PapaDRoc]

Originally posted by shippy1973
TO calls Garcia basically a homo...then complains about McNabb in Philly....what the hell would happen in Oakland with Randy Moss AND Kerry freakin Collins?? IMO...it would be a disaster. But one that should be fun as hell to watch especially with Norval!!

Keep in mind that with a receiving corps like that, it might not matter if someone would want to get along. I like the gamble made if the Raiders made the trade. Simply because the upside to the trade for the Raiders is ridiculous. It could potentially turn out to be the most dangerous receiver tandem in football.

..........Notice how I said potentially......

[SkinsFTW]

This would be a good trade and believable at least on the Eagles part.

I don't know how the Raiders afford it and their defense still sucks but I like it anyway. :D

[Parlett316]

Originally posted by ChocolateCitySkin
their recently deceased ex-center,

What? Barret Robbins is still alive.

[bofluid]

It will be hilarious if this goes down. This team could go 16-0 and one of these guys will be unhappy. You throw in Warren Sapp and this very well could be a trainwreck.

Kerry Collins is number one on my draft board for fantasy football if this trade is completed.

[GrimReefa]

If this trade occurs, the Raiders are going to win the Super Bowl. Remember, they also have Lamont Jordan, who was picking up 5 yards a carry last season.

I've already got them winning that division. If they add TO, they will be unstoppable.

[tizzod]

Originally posted by tr1


Ah WB, WB...

When FredEx lights it up in KC while the Eagles are starting over with new receivers (though I hope you guys can work it out with TO), you'll see my point.

Freddie didn't have the numbers because McNabb didn't want to throw to him. The one time he did, Freddie bailed McNabb's butt out by making a sensational catch in the playoffs.



Hey, I didn't know Freddie's agent posted out here!

[CrazyLikeAFox87]

Excuse my ignorance, but wouldn't the eagles have to take a huge cap it for trading TO away after just one year of a long contract?

[RDSKNfaithfull]

If Gallery and company can keep Collins upright he is one of the best at the long ball with T.O. and Moss he could put up Peyton numbers

[Synergist]

I just don't get where the raiders will get the cap room to do this..

[Hooper]

I can see it now. With Norv as coach and this talented of an offense, the Raiders will get up 60 points... then somehow still find a way to lose in the fourth quarter.

[mookie0720]

Regardless of whether they are yelling and screaming at each other on the sidelines, when they cross those lines they are still Moss and TO and will still light up any secondary for big yards.

There has never been a WR combo like that in the history of the league. Two guys, possibly HOF, in their primes. Any QB with a pulse could throw for 3000 with these two.

[illone]

Talk about jump starting a guys career. When Andrew Walter takes over in a year or so he's the perfect QB to throw bombs to these guys.


:doh::doh:

[Om]

Your facts are a bit off on the circumstances of Robbins shooting.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6873535/

Plus, last I heard reported, Robbins was in the hospital in critcal condition, but alive. Do you have confirmation that he has in fact passed away?

[Om]

So apparently, rumors of his demise have been greatly exaggerated.

[jrockster21]

If the trade goes through, the Raiders will explode out of the gates. They'll probably go 8-0, 9-0, and then they'll implode. Too much talent and ego. I predict 9-7....one of the most disappointing seasons ever.

[jrockster21]

Originally posted by GrimReefa
If this trade occurs, the Raiders are going to win the Super Bowl. Remember, they also have Lamont Jordan, who was picking up 5 yards a carry last season.

I've already got them winning that division. If they add TO, they will be unstoppable.

Chemistry, chemistry, chemistry! And add to that zero defense...

[Eagles_Legendz]

Isn't going to happen.

[jrockster21]

Originally posted by Eagles_Legendz
Isn't going to happen.

I agree....there are just too many hiccups. It would have Oakland salary cap strapped for years to come, not to mention the ego battles that would go on. Impossible to deal with.

When the offense clicked, though, it woudl be fun to watch!

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Originally posted by Hooper
I can see it now. With Norv as coach and this talented of an offense, the Raiders will get up 60 points... then somehow still find a way to lose in the fourth quarter.

But at least in all the postgame press conferences, they will have "competed" and are "getting better"

Norv made me crazy with that garbage all the time.....

[GSF]

They were just saying on NFL network a little while ago that the rumors were false and the trade wasn't going to happen. Too bad.:doh:

[Eagles_Legendz]

Originally posted by jrockster77


I agree....there are just too many hiccups. It would have Oakland salary cap strapped for years to come, not to mention the ego battles that would go on. Impossible to deal with.

When the offense clicked, though, it woudl be fun to watch!

It would make me want to catch as many Raiders games as possible. That team would be like a daily soap opera. It would also be highly amusing trying to watch Owens and Moss co-exist.

[FARAPS]

i really dont think porter is that good, he is fast and all and he is young but he isnt consistent. he has some great games but hes definetly no T.O