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[stevenaa]

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[Loki]

Thank you!:notworthy

[dg28daman]

Sweet. I wish rivals did the same thing.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

This doesn't look good (http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html) :puke: :puke:

[fwo40]

Originally posted by RDSKNfaithfull
This doesn't look good (http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html) :puke: :puke:

Here's something else distrubing....from the Marcus Washington interview:

" I know you’re on the outside, but how tough is it to learn to play in the middle?
A: I’m lucky because I’m a Sam. Once I get the call I’m like, ‘OK guys don’t bother me.’ In the middle, you’re the quarterback of the defense. Everyone knows Coach Williams’ defense is not the easiest one in the NFL. Not only do you have to get yourself lined up but you also have to line the defensive line up. Sometimes they don’t want to cooperate so you have to slap them on the butt and get them going. It’s tough doing it in a game when everything is going so fast and you’re a little out of breath and you’ve got Sean Taylor out there not getting in the huddle and AP would have to yell at him "

Tough to replace Pierce...and Washington hinting that Taylor is a pain in the ass on the field too.

[fmorris]

Originally posted by fwo40



Tough to replace Pierce...and Washington hinting that Taylor is a pain in the ass on the field too.

And then look at the pay scale. Who's with me, when I say that I'd rather have paid AP Sean's money and traded Sean off somewhere? I'd rather be giving my leaders the big bucks, and it sucks that we lost a good one. I guess hindsite is always 20/20, but it doesn't make it sting any less.

What's perplexing about Sean's situation is how his friend, coaches etc talk about what a good stand up guy he is. I'm just not seeing so far, but I can understand why Gibbs took a gamble on him based on research interviews.

Guess this really points to the difficulty in finding character guys, or as Joe would say, Redskins.

[scottb]

Come on guys. Any organization with more than a couple of folks requiring coordination are going to have some dysfunction and strife. When its taken out of context it gives a distorted view of the whole. Given the effectiveness of the defense last year I hardly think a few harps and quips should be taken too seriously. This information overload during the offseason is driving everyone crazy.

[Om]

No one questions that Pierce's single best trait in the middle was his brain. The only question was whether the complete package---including his limited size---was going to be worth the kind of money he wanted to stay after a breakout season. The team obviuosly felt comfortable enough that they could find someone already on the roster (or maybe an addition say like Holdman) could bring enough physically AND mentally to take over without too big a loss.

Many are concerned with the loss of Pierce being necessarily a down thing for the unit. Few seem to consider that perhaps there's another leader (Barrow? Holdman? Marshall? Smith?) available who might not only be as arguably as good a defensive QB as Pierce was, but also bring even better physical skills.

If Williams had TRULY felt he needed Pierce to make his defense work, I think Antonio would still be a Redskin. Based on the masterful job Williams has done so far, he's more than earned the benefit of that doubt.

[fwo40]

Originally posted by Om
No one questions that Pierce's single best trait in the middle was his brain. The only question was whether the complete package---including his limited size---was going to be worth the kind of money he wanted to stay after a breakout season. The team obviuosly felt comfortable enough that they could find someone already on the roster (or maybe an addition say like Holdman) could bring enough physically AND mentally to take over without too big a loss.

Many are concerned with the loss of Pierce being necessarily a down thing for the unit. Few seem to consider that perhaps there's another leader (Barrow? Holdman? Marshall? Smith?) available who might not only be as arguably as good a defensive QB as Pierce was, but also bring even better physical skills.

If Williams had TRULY felt he needed Pierce to make his defense work, I think Antonio would still be a Redskin. Based on the masterful job Williams has done so far, he's more than earned the benefit of that doubt.

I believe that OM. And I wasn't trying to make the point that Pierce is completely irreplacable. (Although it does kinda suck that guys who are performing for us are not being paid, in part b/c of mistakes in the past).

I just thought the dig at Sean was interesting since up til now, many Taylor fans have assumed only the media thought he was difficult to deal with...and only on off the field issues.

What Washignton said may not have been a major character inditement, but it does kinda lend another insight to Seans overall character and maybe the risks he carrries with it.

[Nomadskin11]

Originally posted by stevenaa
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[TK]

Originally posted by fwo40


Here's something else distrubing....from the Marcus Washington interview:

" I know you’re on the outside, but how tough is it to learn to play in the middle?
A: I’m lucky because I’m a Sam. Once I get the call I’m like, ‘OK guys don’t bother me.’ In the middle, you’re the quarterback of the defense. Everyone knows Coach Williams’ defense is not the easiest one in the NFL. Not only do you have to get yourself lined up but you also have to line the defensive line up. Sometimes they don’t want to cooperate so you have to slap them on the butt and get them going. It’s tough doing it in a game when everything is going so fast and you’re a little out of breath and you’ve got Sean Taylor out there not getting in the huddle and AP would have to yell at him "

Tough to replace Pierce...and Washington hinting that Taylor is a pain in the ass on the field too.
I believe we offered that for free as it came from his press conference at mini camp. ;)

[Goaldeje]

Originally posted by RDSKNfaithfull
This doesn't look good (http://redskins.scout.com/3/salary_cap_chart.html) :puke: :puke:


Allow me to say upfront that I am no salary cap expert, but it particularly doesn't look good for 2006. We are gonna have to make some serious cuts, looks like to me, to get under the cap. I figure the dead money there at the bottom won't all transfer over to 06, which will help, but some of it will. Anyone wanna help me with this, show me the positive side, so to speak?

[fmorris]

Originally posted by scottb
Come on guys. Any organization with more than a couple of folks requiring coordination are going to have some dysfunction and strife. When its taken out of context it gives a distorted view of the whole. Given the effectiveness of the defense last year I hardly think a few harps and quips should be taken too seriously. This information overload during the offseason is driving everyone crazy.

I'll agree with that Scott ..for the most part. When you're looking at the whole, I suppose you're going to have your strife. In referring to Sean Taylor I'm looking at a number of things:

1. High profile selection where you REALLY want to pay close attention to the intangibles. What he does off the field, attitude about the game, and his future. Umm, respect for authority.

2. Return of investment. Taylor being one of the highest paid players, yet can't find it in his heart to attend workouts. Can't find the time to return his Hall of Fame coache's phone calls. Can't find the time to secure a disignated driver, and now can't be bothered to follow basic freakin laws such as not waving a gun around. Now your cap is all chewed up on a player that may not be attending your games. F***.

3. A pick of significant magnitude that you'll likely be looking at on some future date when weighing the factors that determine why your team was successful or a bust. We all know this too. How many times have we heard about the Desmond Howard pick among others.

4. He's the real deal, but thus far, the wrong deal. I'm sure Mike Westbrook was the most talented WR ever born, too bad it didn't matter, because he had a bad attitude and lacked any sort of basic controls over his emotions. By the way, did anyone ever find out what exactly Stephen Davis said to him that day at practice?

I'm sure the press if fast to point out any and all of Taylor's blunders, but that doesn't change the fact that he's been involved in a pattern of oddity that makes one start to question his mental stability.

5. We don't know much at this point. Stuff goes on behind the scenes that we can't be privy to. It could be that Sean is a choir boy who's been targeted in a smear campain. And I really hope I'm wrong, but at this point, all things considered, he's a bust.

[matty dread]

I still don't understand why people pay for this info when you can find for free elsewhere. But hey, to each his own I guess.

[VaSkinsNut]

I still don't understand why people pay for this info when you can find for free elsewhere. But hey, to each his own I guess.


Honestly,

I subscribe there and it costs me $8 a month. The same as lunch on any given day at work. Keim is a terrific beat writer and has some great insight and practice reports. I also like articles from Eddie Mason during the steason and rookie scouting reports when the draft is around the corner. Plus I get access to all the content on other NFL teams. I have no problem helping them out by being a subscriber.

[GSF]

I liked Extreme a lot better than warpath back when warpath was free.

[Kosher Ham]

Originally posted by GSF
I liked Extreme a lot better than warpath back when warpath was free.
You and I are on the same page as far as that goes.

[autographcollector]

Originally posted by goaldeje



Allow me to say upfront that I am no salary cap expert, but it particularly doesn't look good for 2006. We are gonna have to make some serious cuts, looks like to me, to get under the cap. I figure the dead money there at the bottom won't all transfer over to 06, which will help, but some of it will. Anyone wanna help me with this, show me the positive side, so to speak?

I can help you...

first off

Lavar last year here is this year. Then scratch Brunell.

[miragv]

The cap will increase a little to make it look less bad.

And we should be able to do some things here and there, but that doesnt mean we wont be cutting some big names

[TheLongshot]

I wouldn't be surprised if Sean Taylor wasn't where he was supposed to be. He was a rookie last year. There is always a learning curve, and someone who is used to one thing, may take a little bit to adjust to another way. You want to cut Sean because he doesn't know when he should huddle up? That's harsh.

As for the salary cap, I'm sure the front office knows a few things that they are going to do. Brunell and Barrow will definitly be gone next year. Others may have their contracts reworked.

Jason

[autographcollector]

Do you really think Lavar will rework his contract with us again????

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Originally posted by autographcollector
Do you really think Lavar will rework his contract with us again????

He won't you can't ask Samuels to :doh: We have a cap headache and nothing to show for it:doh: At least the Titans had some success:doh:

[autographcollector]

Originally posted by RDSKNfaithfull


He won't you can't ask Samuels to :doh: We have a cap headache and nothing to show for it:doh: At least the Titans had some success:doh:

I think it's obvious based on quotes Greg Williams has made, Lavar continuing his Grievance, a history of injury and a top rated D without him. Lavar is in his last year.

And I have his autographed jersey. :mad:
I will hang it with my Stephen Davis jersey.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Originally posted by autographcollector


I think it's obvious based on quotes Greg Williams has made, Lavar continuing his Grievance, a history of injury and a top rated D without him. Lavar is in his last year.

And I have his autographed jersey. :mad:
I will hang it with my Stephen Davis jersey.

How quick times change I have a football signed a 8 by 10 and the limited edition photo with coin:doh: I hope he stays, a year ago he was Mr. Redskin and still says all the right things as far as the fans go.

[autographcollector]

Originally posted by RDSKNfaithfull


How quick times change I have a football signed a 8 by 10 and the limited edition photo with coin:doh: I hope he stays, a year ago he was Mr. Redskin and still says all the right things as far as the fans go.

I love Lavar but I just don't see it happening unless we go deep into the playoffs and Lavar knows the ship has turned. If that happens he has to rework his contract and the team has to want to give him another big bonus.

If its another injury year :(

[Chrisbob74]

Some players have cap figures for 2006 that will change due to bonuses that kick in and can be pro rated over the remainder of the contract.

Shawn Springs, Clinton Portis and Lavar are just 3 players with such bonuses.

What needs to happen is a new CBA being put in place to allow these bonuses to be pro rated.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Originally posted by Chrisbob74
Some players have cap figures for 2006 that will change due to bonuses that kick in and can be pro rated over the remainder of the contract.

Shawn Springs, Clinton Portis and Lavar are just 3 players with such bonuses.

What needs to happen is a new CBA being put in place to allow these bonuses to be pro rated.

This will help but the fact remains 34players with that much money will be hard to keep the continuity we so desperatly been missing as a franchise:puke: If only Gibbs would have only came earlier.

[autographcollector]

Originally posted by Chrisbob74
Some players have cap figures for 2006 that will change due to bonuses that kick in and can be pro rated over the remainder of the contract.

Shawn Springs, Clinton Portis and Lavar are just 3 players with such bonuses.

What needs to happen is a new CBA being put in place to allow these bonuses to be pro rated.

Better pray for the new CBA....

[GSF]

Just stopped in to warpath to check it out since I haven't since it became a paid site. I was surprised my login still worked. I must say that charging for access seems to have really decreased the content of their forums. And on top of that, the most interesting forum over there, the DTC's forum, is gone. Too bad, I was hoping to school The Mayor again in some freestyle.:)

[Chrisbob74]

Originally posted by ChocolateCitySkin
OMGBBQ!! It's no wonder we traded our first round pick away... We couldn't sign him anyways. There is absolutely no way lavar is going to get 12 mil next year. Hopefully, danny boy has been cooking up some insidious salary cap tactics.

Well, as I stated earlier, this is where the bonuses kick in to make the cap figures look inflated at the moment.

Lavar has a $6.5m bonus due in 2006. Because he signed his contract last season bonuses could only be prorated up until 2009. This means that his bonuses could not be pro rated over the full length of the contract.

Assuming their is a new CBA in place, when his $6.5m bonus is prorated, it can be proted over the full remaining length of the contract, This reduces his cap impact by $5.4m for 2006 but adds $1.1m to the remaining years.

Portis deal has a $3m bonus that can be pro rated. This reduces his cap impact by $2.4m but adds $600k to the remaining years.

Cornelius Griffin has a $2.5m bonus due, this again can be pro rated, reducing his cap impact by $2m but adding $500k to the remaining years.

Marcus Washingtons cap impact reduces by $1.875m but adds $525k to the remaining years.

There are some other players who have some smaller bonuses that can be reduced, but they don't have the impact of the above players who save $11.5m+ vs the cap.

Yes, there will be some players hitting the road, some may go this year (maybe Lennie Friedman).

Mark Brunell could be cut but it pretty much cancels itself out with the dead cap hit (adds roughly $300K) so he is more likely a june 1st cut.

Mike Barrow saves roughly $1.4m if cut.

Walt Harris saves $1.25m if cut.

Brandon Noble saves $1.7m if cut.

Cory Raymer saves roughly $800k.

Lennie Friedman saves $1m if cut.

Some of these players may be able to rework.

The Redskins have become pretty good at targeting players who can rework deals so expect some creative accounting.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

The fact that we have to do so much to stay under next year is not good news. Continuity:rolleyes:

[autographcollector]

Originally posted by Chrisbob74


Well, as I stated earlier, this is where the bonuses kick in to make the cap figures look inflated at the moment.

Lavar has a $6.5m bonus due in 2006. Because he signed his contract last season bonuses could only be prorated up until 2009. This means that his bonuses could not be pro rated over the full length of the contract.

Assuming their is a new CBA in place, when his $6.5m bonus is prorated, it can be proted over the full remaining length of the contract, This reduces his cap impact by $5.4m for 2006 but adds $1.1m to the remaining years.

Portis deal has a $3m bonus that can be pro rated. This reduces his cap impact by $2.4m but adds $600k to the remaining years.

Cornelius Griffin has a $2.5m bonus due, this again can be pro rated, reducing his cap impact by $2m but adding $500k to the remaining years.

Marcus Washingtons cap impact reduces by $1.875m but adds $525k to the remaining years.

There are some other players who have some smaller bonuses that can be reduced, but they don't have the impact of the above players who save $11.5m+ vs the cap.

Yes, there will be some players hitting the road, some may go this year (maybe Lennie Friedman).

Mark Brunell could be cut but it pretty much cancels itself out with the dead cap hit (adds roughly $300K) so he is more likely a june 1st cut.

Mike Barrow saves roughly $1.4m if cut.

Walt Harris saves $1.25m if cut.

Brandon Noble saves $1.7m if cut.

Cory Raymer saves roughly $800k.

Lennie Friedman saves $1m if cut.

Some of these players may be able to rework.

The Redskins have become pretty good at targeting players who can rework deals so expect some creative accounting.

I think your numbers are a little optimistic...and dont account for two first round picks this year, and next years draft picks....

[Chrisbob74]

The numbers are pretty much fact. As for next years draft picks, we don't have a first rounder anyway and the lower picks don't count heavily on the cap due to rule 51, meaning each pick only adds a very small amount to the cap. Also, Brunell is a near cert to be a June 1st cut, that would cover the draft picks.

We also don't know how much the cap will rise. It rose by near $5m this year so it's fair to expect the same or possibly more next year.

I disagree that the Skins are scarificing a lot of depth. Firstly, change in the salary cap period is inevitable. Second, some of these guys may just take pay cuts. Thirdly, expect the Skins to target some players for restructures who aren't in danger of being cap cuts. A bit of creative accountancey if you like.

[autographcollector]

Originally posted by ChocolateCitySkin

I dunno, I have a feeling that we're going to have a lot of rookies and cheapie free agents filling in for depth next year. And a lot of B and C list players on the depth charts floating off. Or losing one or two A list guys. I'm looking at you Lavar.

:notworthy

I love my Lavar signed jersey :(

But I think unless he has a phenominal year and we get far in the playoffs he is...:ciao: