Man, Panther Fans are Hillarious..

[KingTaylor22]

Well after I heard about the news of Gardner being traded to the Panthers, I surfed on over to one of the Panthers sites to see what they thought of the move. They think with the addition of Rod, they will be super bowl contenders. And one guy even said that they now have the best WR core in the leauge. HAHAHA

link: http://www.panthershuddle.com/newforum/viewtopic.php?t=10930

[DaRock]

They may not have the best WR corp in the league, but I think Rod was a good addition for them.

[TODD]

I don't think the move itself makes them a Super Bowl contender, but it is irrefutably an offensive upgrade.

[bubba9497]

wait until he starts dropping easy 3rd down/ TD passes

they'll change their opinion.

[galentjm]

Or gets called for holding to negate a long run.

[Yomar]

I think they already were Super Bowl contenders

[TD_washingtonredskins]

In all honesty, his role there might suit him just fine.

They have a pretty solid WR corps.

I think he'll frustrate them at times, but all and all, if your 3rd receiver is a potential gamebreaker (even an inconsistent one), I think you're in good shape.

[TheREALJBird]

lol i checked out that link...not only are the fans delirous, but that website is a fistful of SUCK

[2PoRtIS6]

Wow they are really high on him. I'm surprised.

[HeHateMe]

Good for them.

I'm actually quite pissed.

I was hoping Dallas would go after him when he was released.

Ive been wanting him for a while now.

Watch him flourish in Carolina.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by Yomar
I think they already were Super Bowl contenders

Good point.

[Ignatius J.]

Rod Gardner is in the absolute best situation he could imagine. I absollutely believe he will have a breakout year with a QB who suits his strengths.

With a QB like delhomme, you aren't going to see gardenr dropping the ball because they won't use him on the intermediate routes on third down. I imagine the panthers will keep to the routes he catches with consistency instead of the routes where he always dropped the ball.

I'd pick up gardner if I were in a fantasy league.

[NYFootballGIANTS]

Denver fans on their MB thought that Ron Dayne would solve all their short yardage problems.

Fans just tend to be optimistic on all acqustions.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Originally posted by NYFootballGIANTS
Denver fans on their MB thought that Ron Dayne would solve all their short yardage problems.

Fans just tend to be optimistic on all acqustions.

And I think I'd have to plead guilty on that charge as well....

[Truant]

He'll put up some decent numbers but he'll be the last target Jake trusts.

Not sad to see him go at all.

[dreamshatterer]

Originally posted by Darock
They may not have the best WR corp in the league, but I think Rod was a good addition for them.

Of course it was a good addition for them, they didn't have a tall target. They lost Muhammed, and he is better than Gradner.

[GSF]

The Panthers are definitely Superbowl contenders.

[grego]

proudiddy on the panthers board wrote

"thanks Zod... Anyway, HOMERISM??? If half you guys even watched a game every now and then, perhaps you would have some informative, educated, information to spew... But, you don't. DON'T HATE. ONCE AGAIN, Gardner has been pure potential to this point. Have I said Gardner will make the ProBowl this year, have I guaranteed 100+ catches, 10 tds for him. NO!!! That doesn't seem realistic as of now. I'm excited b/c we have seriously shored up our WR corps. You're gonna knock me for being excited about this pick-up, BUT, FOX AND HURNEY TRADED FOR A REASON. You gonna say they're HOMERS? F*** that. Watch a football game or two. His addition is exciting, and his production will be valued either way. He does have the ability to become our #2 though. And this OPENS up our offense greatly. I haven't proclaimed Gardner the greatest WR ever, he's far from it. But, much like stats, IDIOTS have the tendency to twist WORDS the way they want. get a grip..."


fox and hurney traded for a reason, eh?


so did gibbs.


eh, but what does gibbs know? :rolleyes:

[AzSkinsFan63]

Rod has potential...whether he utilizes or not remains to be seen.

[36SKINS56]

their website is dog S. Were those japanimations I saw? Boy those carolinians must be behind the times in everything. Rod Gardner's good...the South will rise again...what a bunch of morons....



...and yes i do go to school there

[Joey T]

Originally posted by HeHateMe
Good for them.

I'm actually quite pissed.

I was hoping Dallas would go after him when he was released.

Ive been wanting him for a while now.

Watch him flourish in Carolina.

I agree. He really never had a QB here to deliver the ball on time and in stride. It seems he always had to reach back behind and try to make the difficult catch with defenders hanging on:mad:

[ryerye05]

damn panthers fans are making it sound like rod gardner is marvin harrison

[a_good_brotha]

Carolina is a Super Bowl contender without Rod Gardner. They won the NFC only 2 seasons ago. Last year they almost made the playoffs even though they lost like 11 starters to injuries. Now they will be healthy. They got my pick to win the NFC. Hopefully I'm wrong and the Redskins go all the way.

[Streater101]

Originally posted by TheREALJBird
lol i checked out that link...not only are the fans delirous, but that website is a fistful of SUCK
lol@fistful of suck

I thought u guys were exaggerating at first until I actually clicked the link, but my god...

Its like acquiring Gardner is the equivilant of the Birds landing TO. What Gardner have they been watching over the past 3 seasons?

[TD_washingtonredskins]

It's a pretty bad site. I think they just scan in crayon posts or something.

At least one of the chicks in the top right corner is cute.

[jbooma]

Garnder is better as a #2 and with a healthy Steve Smith and that kid from USC they do have a very nice WR group plus Rod is playing for a contract, he will have a big year.

[MidwayMonster31]

They have Steve Smith, who btw is a Pro-Bowl caliber receiver, Gardner can only get better there. The long list of 2001 busts continues. Here's the list so far-
Gerard Warren
David Terrell
Koren Robinson
Jamal Reynolds
Freddie Mitchell
And now...Rod Gardner
So many receivers. If you ask me, receivers are as much of a crap-shoot as Quarterbacks. :puke:

[TheSteve]

Garnder is going to break out guys. he was never used properly in Washington. We tried to make him a possession WR which is not his strong point. He is best used on deep routes and routes where he can go up and challenge for the ball instead of trying to find the first down marker. The role of muhhamed in that offense should suit him well. Don't think of Muhammed's numbers last year as they were inflated because of Steve Smith's injury. Rather, look at his averages in the Panthers contending span.. I expect Gardner to easily have a 70 catch season.

[Sebowski]

Panthers were one of my favorites this year before the trade. Fact is they stole Gardner for a 6th round pick too. He was worth a 3rd if you ask me.

We also stole the pick, because we were just weeks away from giving him up anyway.

Win-Win.

[Streater101]

Originally posted by TheSteve
Garnder is going to break out guys. he was never used properly in Washington. We tried to make him a possession WR which is not his strong point. He is best used on deep routes and routes where he can go up and challenge for the ball instead of trying to find the first down marker. The role of muhhamed in that offense should suit him well. Don't think of Muhammed's numbers last year as they were inflated because of Steve Smith's injury. Rather, look at his averages in the Panthers contending span.. I expect Gardner to easily have a 70 catch season.
Carolina doesn't throw the ball nearly enough to get 70 catches from their 3rd option. No team does really, so unless he emerges as a starter, I just don't see it. If anything he'll see improved production just due to the fact that he'll probably be facing the other teams 3/4 best DB.

[Dirk Diggler]

The Panthers were Super Bowl contenders before the trade. I don't hold Gardner in very high regard so I dont think it's an impact move though it certainly can't hurt. Should their Oline be as sound as it was in 2003, I'd say they knock off the Eagles and play in Detroit next year.

[Spear]

Of course Panther fans are excited. Remember his rookie year? The game against Carolina that we came back and won, snapping our 5-game losing streak and establishing a 5-game winning streak? Rod has over 200 yards that game and a couple of TD's.

They probably think they're getting THAT Gardner. Rather than the one who can't get open and drops passes that we've come to know.

[JWB]

good riddance! He showed us all what he is worth to the Skins. Did he perform? NO!

[seanyt]

If they only knew how relieved we feel today...

[Canadian Hog]

Think about it......

You have just acquired a player who was a former first round pick (15th overall) in 2001, and a guy who has put together a 1000 yard season in the past. Additionally, entering only his 5th season, Gardner does have some years ahead of him in the NFL. If I'm a fan of the Carolina Panthers, I'm going to judge the worth of this trade based on the above mentioned factors and considerations. So all in all, giving up a conditional low round pick seems like a very good trade on the surface from one of their fans' perspectives.

I'd be willing to guess that much of the excitement being expressed by Panther fans is largely a result of their fan base not following the production, performance, and tendencies of Rod Gardner on a weekly basis as we do. That's where the difference is at this point. To them, Rod Gardner is simply that former first round pick who has the potential to do well. So of course it's a great trade from their point of view considering the minimal cost.

[Park City Skins]

Good points C.H. . And one has to figure that on some occassions in the past, we, ( or at least some of us), have been "guilty" of the same thing. And more than likely a subject of a thread or 2 in some message board or another.

[Skins11]

Some players just need a change of scenery. I'm sure he'll do better there than he did in Washington last year, but he would have done better this year on the Skins as well. It's just that he wasn't wanted any more. Attitude, inconsistency, whatever. House cleaning I suppose.

[f_trizzy]

I'm glad we got a pick for him but I really do believe he is going to be better in Carolina. He has lost the luster of a number one pick and with Steve Smith there all he has to do is be a possession receiver and a big target which I think he can do better than trying to serve as the go to guy.

[Destino]

I'm glad he's gone, but when I see people HERE calling Panther fans "homers" I have to laugh. Let's keep it cool people, the Panthers and the Redskins both acted in the best interest of their clubs, and let's leave it at that.

[Dallsux]

Originally posted by KingTaylor36
Well after I heard about the news of Gardner being traded to the Panthers, I surfed on over to one of the Panthers sites to see what they thought of the move. They think with the addition of Rod, they will be super bowl contenders. And one guy even said that they now have the best WR core in the leauge. HAHAHA

link: http://www.panthershuddle.com/newforum/viewtopic.php?t=10930


:panthersu


How anyone could see this as an upgrade is beyond me. I don't pay attention to Carolina's WR roster problems, but adding a guy who drops clutch catches CANNOT be any kind of upgrade. And it's not like he's only dropped clutch catches recently. He's been doing it since we drafted him to play opposite Westbrook. :doh:

[esm9577]

He's gone and who cares? He didn't do anything for us and I don't care what he does in carolina. It's just nice to see that we have added another darft pick.

[ciresolstice]

Rod Gardner a Panther = Randy Moss...true story.

smh. rediculous.

[DjKam1]

I truly deep inside feel that he will do very very well in Carolina. We have had HORRIBLE QB play ever since his arrival to our team, and inconsistancies left and right with our team. Don't get me wrong he looked completely lost at times with those dropped passes, but there was probably no chemistry at all between him and the QB therefore he sometimes didn't know what to expect. I wish him luck, however I feel inside as though we have misused him from the beginning. We needed a change of pace anyways, we are going to be fine with our recievers as long as the QB to Reciever connection is strong.

[NoCalMike]

The biggest problem with Rod was his inconsistency, maybe a change of scenary will work out for him, one thing for sure though is, he wasn't working out as a Redskin, and that is all that matters to us.

[bnacpa]

Rod was very inconsistent for us, but a change of scenery will do him good. Delhomme will be the most accomplished QB that he will have worked with since Brunell was horrible last year and Ramsey still has his best days in front of him as he was sack fodder the first year at the helm and last year came in towards the end in a new offense. Ramsey's first year was musical QB so it is easy to see why Gardner has had some difficulties. On top of that he had Jeff George, Tony Banks and Kent Graham. All in all, since 2000, here have been his QB's:

Jeff George, Tony Banks, Kent Graham, Shane Matthews, Danny Weurffel, Patrick Ramsey, Tim Hasselbeck, Mark Brunell. Not one of those QB's was in his prime yet Gardner still managed a 1,000 yard season in his last season as the #1 receiver before we brought in Coles.

Gardner struggles with the easy grabs but has the talent to make some stellar difficult catches. If Carolina can get him involved in each game and teach him concentration and focus, I think he will be a great addition to their receiving corps. At the end of the day they are taking a gamble on a # 1 receiver for a #6 player. This only backfires if he has a great year and then asks for Hines Ward type money after his contract is up ... that I doubt. I think he can reasonably get 60 catches for 700 yards in Carolina which is good for a slot reciever in a run-first offense.

[TheLongshot]

You know, Jets fans are probably saying the same things about us. "Gee, they are getting excited for that bum Moss. What a bunch of tools they are."

You never know when a change of scenery will change things. The same goes with David Terrell in New England. In all of these places, are players who want to prove their previous teams wrong. They have chips on their shoulder. I wouldn't discount Rod to be productive.

Jason

[bnacpa]

Maybe Rod will hire a team of scientists to figure out how to replicate a very thin, invisible form of stickum. Since there is a big industry for cheating drug tests ... maybe he can figure out a way to get some stickum on them paws without anyone figuring it out ... then he will finally replace KW2 as the chosen one :)

[stupidsuck]

don't be surprised if you see the trend of players leaving washington only to blossom. I've seen it too many times, it's really weird that it seems to happen alot (watch Kwame Brown finally realize his potential in LA too):laugh:

[G-Prime]

Originally posted by stupidsuck
don't be surprised if you see the trend of players leaving washington only to blossom. I've seen it too many times, it's really weird that it seems to happen alot (watch Kwame Brown finally realize his potential in LA too):laugh:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed that!.

[B&GPride44]

I think he'll do alright in Carolina. If he can stop the drops he could actually be good talent. Not sorry to see him go though. Wanted him out of Washington for a while!

[VaBeachSkinzFan]

Originally posted by 2PoRtIS6
Wow they are really high on him. I'm surprised.

I'm not look how excited some of us got for Dyson or even the AFL guy. We would do the same thing if the roles were reversed.

[red zone]

Rod is not nearly as bad as we make him out to be, nor is he as good as he could be.

Plus, I think he throws a helluva nice WR, reverse pass. ;)

[ntotoro]

Originally posted by stupidsuck
don't be surprised if you see the trend of players leaving washington only to blossom. I've seen it too many times, it's really weird that it seems to happen alot (watch Kwame Brown finally realize his potential in LA too):laugh:

Realistically, how many guys have left here and gone on to huge careers? I think you might be surprised how few there actually are, for all the times that gets thrown around.

Nick

[Rocky21]

Originally posted by TD_washingtonredskins
At least one of the chicks in the top right corner is cute.

She was from out of town. :cool:

I think the Panthers got a good deal and that Gardner will end up starting. I see Colbert as a better fit for their # 3 receiver spot right now because he's still green.

You guys are cracking me up with that Panthers will be a Super Bowl contender stuff.

The same Panthers who finished with a losing record last year in a powder puff division?

They have had a losing record in 4 of the last 5 years!!! C'mon.

[stupidsuck]

Originally posted by ntotoro


Realistically, how many guys have left here and gone on to huge careers? I think you might be surprised how few there actually are, for all the times that gets thrown around.

Nick

yea i know what you're saying realistically the numbers are probably not too many, it just seems that way sometimes.

[halter91]

I think he'll do well in Carolina. Even though Rod didn't work out here with Gibbs, I think he'dd do well. He is a solid reciever and he make a difference.

[mookie0720]

Originally posted by Yomar
I think they already were Super Bowl contenders

[dfbovey]

Originally posted by NYFootballGIANTS
Denver fans on their MB thought that Ron Dayne would solve all their short yardage problems.

Fans just tend to be optimistic on all acqustions.

You hit the nail on the head. People here have some pretty crazy expectations when it comes to Santana Moss. I think he'll have a decent year but I've seen some outlandish predictions as to what he'd do from several people on this site.

[TheLongshot]

Originally posted by Rocky21

You guys are cracking me up with that Panthers will be a Super Bowl contender stuff.

The same Panthers who finished with a losing record last year in a powder puff division?

They have had a losing record in 4 of the last 5 years!!! C'mon.

That's going to happen when you lose a good piece of your team to injuries. They lost their #1 WR, their #1 back. The changes on the O-line also hurt them.

I think last year was an abberation for them.

Jason

[skinsngibbs4life]

Originally posted by Rocky21


She was from out of town. :cool:

I think the Panthers got a good deal and that Gardner will end up starting. I see Colbert as a better fit for their # 3 receiver spot right now because he's still green.

You guys are cracking me up with that Panthers will be a Super Bowl contender stuff.

The same Panthers who finished with a losing record last year in a powder puff division?

They have had a losing record in 4 of the last 5 years!!! C'mon.

well, now with davis back and healthy, they will be above .500 again. But I still don't see them overthrowing the falcons for the division. If the panthers make the playoffs, it would be through the wild-card and not the division.

[KingTaylor22]

And they won't get the wildcard because we will.

[>>Spearhead>>]

Gardner for a 6th rounder is a good deal for them or anybody else.
Add in the fact that he is closer to his college stomping grounds and our legacy of busts producing elsewhere and look for 50/50 to go 75/25!! Remember he is playing for a contract, as well.

[>>Spearhead>>]

Plus we can't talk too much :pooh: about them because their WRs are better then ours and thats after they had a pro bowler leave via free agency.

[jbooma]

Originally posted by ntotoro


Realistically, how many guys have left here and gone on to huge careers? I think you might be surprised how few there actually are, for all the times that gets thrown around.

Nick

gannon, wycheck, mccardel, champ (he is still young), etc...

davis had one good year and helped that team to the NFC Championship

[Chachie]

Originally posted by bubba9497
wait until he starts dropping easy 3rd down/ TD passes

they'll change their opinion.

I hate to say this, Bubba, but Rod DOES have a proven, genuine NFL QB throwing at him now. He hasn't had that since.... well, since.... damn. :doh:

[ntotoro]

Originally posted by jbooma


gannon, wycheck, mccardel, champ (he is still young), etc...

davis had one good year and helped that team to the NFC Championship

None of those guys has ever become the kind of player worthy of the criticism people have thrown our way, though. Even after Davis' one good season, people stopped thinking about it because he got old and was always injury-prone.

People in the media now talk about Champ being initially overrated and realize it. People now talk about Davis being older and recognize he'll never get over the injury bug. The media would have you think we just ditch HOF'ers left and right.

I'm surprised we haven't gotten criticized for getting rid of Zeron Flemister. He does have a Super Bowl ring now, even if he was on the sidelines.

Nick

[Dallsux]

They are funny people over there at the Panthers site. They are telling me that it's the QB's fault that Gardner drops so many passes. :laugh: Sure it is. One guy (named KaKa...please, go there) seems to think that NOW, we as Skins fans think Gardner is a "horrible WR" because he was traded for a 6th round draft pick. Uh-huh. Yeah, we haven't been noticing the multiple times he's dropped easy TD & 3rd down passes from numerous QB's have we? :rolleyes:

[TaylorPickSix]

That was a great laugh.

[TheDane]

Of course they're psyched, the nightclubs in downtown Charlotte are going to go buck wild now on Wednesday and Thursday nights when Hot Rod and his posse blow in to town.

[ATLANTASKINSFAN]

I think it is funny that people here are actually busting on Carolina for being happy about this trade. Some of the same people busting on Carolina are the same ones that think Gardner was worth 3rd round pick. Carolina got him for a 6 they should be pleased. Yes fans tend to get excited about players potential more than actual proven ability. Look no further than the reaction of fans on this board and our 5th round linebacker draft pick Mccune. Gardner had 1 good year so certainly he has the potential of having a couple more.

Good for Carolina for grabbing him, and good for our FO for getting something for him. A win win for everyone.

:helmet:

[ratbert_rizzo]

Thats a funny post they have. I hope they are being sarcastic in their celebrations because I doubt many fans around the country would be thrilled to have Rod Gardner on their team. Sure its a good move for them and certainly worth a sixth rounder but if you think Rod is gonna take you to the Super Bowl, well you got another thing comin.:panthersu :panthersu :point2sky :panthersu :panthersu

[cocojoey]

50/50 the best wideout in the leauge?

Ha Ha Ha!!




:point2sky HAIL TO THE REDSKINS :point2sky


:logo: REDSKINS IN 2005 :logo:



:panthersu :panthersu :panthersu :panthersu



:dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck :