No Matter What Your Politics, You'll Probably Enjoy This.

[SonnyRules]

NO MATTER WHAT YOUR POLITICS, YOU'LL PROBABLY ENJOY THIS.

Although today's "educators" would never allow it to happen, wouldn't it be nice if some school system somewhere would include the following "Reaganisms" as required reading?

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"Here's my strategy on the Cold War: We win, they lose."
- Ronald Reagan




"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
- Ronald Reagan



"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so."
- Ronald Reagan



"Of the four wars in my lifetime, none came about because the U.S. was too strong."
- Ronald Reagan



"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."
- Ronald Reagan



"The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination."
- Ronald Reagan



"Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other."
- Ronald Reagan



"If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."
- Ronald Reagan



"The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program."
- Ronald Reagan



"I've laid down the law, though, to everyone from now on about anything that happens: no matter what time it is, wake me, even if it's in the middle of a Cabinet meeting."
- Ronald Reagan



"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first."
- Ronald Reagan



"Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it."
- Ronald Reagan



"Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards, if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book."
- Ronald Reagan



"No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.
- Ronald Reagan


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[airborneskins]

:cheers:

[The Evil Genius]

Must resist...


Must resist...too late...can't resist


:D


A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?"
--Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966

"I don't believe a tree is a tree and if you've seen one you've seen them all."
--Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, September 14, 1966

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."
--Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980. (In reality, the average nuclear reactor generates 30 tons of radioactive waste per year.)



"I've said it before and I'll say it again. The U.S. Geological Survey has told me that the proven potential for oil in Alaska alone is greater than the proven reserves in Saudi Arabia."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Detroit Free Press, March 23, 1980. (According to the USGS, the Saudi reserves of 165.5 billion barrels are 17 times the proven reserves--9.2 billion barrels--in Alaska.)


"Trains are not any more energy efficient than the average automobile, with both getting about 48 passenger miles to the gallon."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Chicago Tribune, May 10, 1980. (The U.S. Department of Transportation calculates that a 14-car train traveling at 80 miles per hour gets 400 passenger miles to the gallon. A 1980 auto carrying an average of 2.2 people gets 42.6 passenger miles to the gallon.)


"...the moral equal of our Founding Fathers."
--President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985


"I know all the bad things that happened in that war. I was in uniform four years myself."
--President Reagan, in an interview with foreign journalists, April 19, 1985. (Reagan spent World War II making Army training films at Hal Roach Studios in Hollywood.)


"I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at the point of a bayonet, if necessary."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, October 20, 1965

"I would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, June 17, 1966



"But I also happen to be someone who believes in tithing--the giving of a tenth [to charity]."
--Ronald Reagan, from The Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents, February 8, 1982. (He may believe in tithing, but he doesn't practice it. Reagan's total charitable giving of $5,965 did not approach 10% of total income. It was closer to 1.4%.)



"Because Vietnam was not a declared war, the veterans are not even eligible for the G. I. Bill of Rights with respect to education or anything."
--Ronald Reagan, in Newsweek, April 21, 1980. (Wrong.)

[SkinsHokieFan]

All some great quotes

I love the one about the scariest words in the English language

[36SKINS56]

Leave it up to a liberal communist to try and ruin a great thread. Excellent quotes SonnyRules!


...Go Back to China T.E.G

[codeorama]

Originally posted by 36SKINS56
Leave it up to a liberal communist to try and ruin a great thread. Excellent quotes SonnyRules!


...Go Back to China T.E.G

You're mad because of some things Regan said?

[hokie4redskins]

Ungrateful bastards.

Here's my favorite.

"Sometimes when I'm faced with an unbeliever, an atheist, I am tempted to invite him to the greatest gourmet dinner that one could ever serve, and when we finished eating that magnificent dinner, to ask him if he believes there's a cook." - Ronald Reagan

[Bonez3]

How about ...
I will support the Air Traffic Controllers when I get elected

Then,
Nah, I don't, let's cut taxes
Ron Reagan

[Bonez3]

Or what Reagan didn't say...
"AIDS"

Until tens of thousands died before he cared enough to address it

[Bonez3]

Sorry, but if you dare call me a communist, please supply address where we can settle this too

[The Evil Genius]

Originally posted by 36SKINS56
Leave it up to a liberal communist to try and ruin a great thread. Excellent quotes SonnyRules!


...Go Back to China T.E.G

At least you didn't call me a pansy.

:laugh:

[hokie4redskins]

:rolleyes:

Ooooooooooh, big tough guy talkin' scary from behind a keyboard. You're in Cali, I'll meet you halfway in Kansas. How does that sound? If I'm not there, keep waiting. I'm buying my plane ticket right now.

Liberals can't fight anyway.

Oh, and mods don't take kindly to threats, no matter how thinly veiled.

[The Evil Genius]

You guys need to chill. And I think he was referring to 36SKINS56 , not you hokie.

:)

[SEF]

Originally posted by hokie4redskins
:rolleyes:

Ooooooooooh, big tough guy talkin' scary from behind a keyboard. You're in Cali, I'll meet you halfway in Kansas. How does that sound? If I'm not there, keep waiting. I'm buying my plane ticket right now.

Liberals can't fight anyway.

Oh, and mods don't take kindly to threats, no matter how thinly veiled.

Lighten up, Francis.

[hokie4redskins]

Yeah, I know he was, T.E.G. Doesn't matter who he was talking to, I wanted to make it clear how ridiculous he sounds.

[Cdowwe]

Originally posted by Bonez3
How about ...
I will support the Air Traffic Controllers when I get elected

Then,
Nah, I don't, let's cut taxes
Ron Reagan


Why support them when they go on strike which would paralyze the nation and economy? Im glad he got rid of their asses. And, dont waste space with 3 different posts within 2 minutes of each other. Hurts my eyes :cool:

[The Evil Genius]

Cdowwe,

But what hurts the nation more - getting rid of them and replacing them with people not qualified? Or giving them a pay raise?

It's like the unions for Police and Fire - they know that they have the state over the barrel so to speak - because the alternative is much worse.

[Predicto]

Not a positive or a negative because this is how things work in today's modern world, but I wonder how many of those lines were actually written by Peggy Noonan or Ben Stein.

[Prosperity]

Originally posted by hokie4redskins
Yeah, I know he was, T.E.G. Doesn't matter who he was talking to, I wanted to make it clear how ridiculous he sounds.

You made it very clear who sounds rediculous here.

[hokie4redskins]

You made it very clear who sounds rediculous here.

Ahh, Liberty, the "enlightened" one. Coming from a man who can't spell ridiculous.

[Prosperity]

Originally posted by hokie4redskins
You made it very clear who sounds rediculous here.

Ahh, Liberty, the "enlightened" one. Coming from a man who can't spell ridiculous.

thank you for making my point grammar nazi

[hokie4redskins]

"Nazi" is capitalized.

[Cdowwe]

Originally posted by hokie4redskins
"Nazi" is capitalized.


:laugh:

[Cdowwe]

Originally posted by T.E.G.
Cdowwe,

But what hurts the nation more - getting rid of them and replacing them with people not qualified? Or giving them a pay raise?



Pay raise is not the issue I was pointing out. Going on strike was. I wouldnt say that they were replaced with people who were NOT qualified either.

[SEF]

Nazi:

Pronunciation: 'nät-sE, 'nat-
Function: noun
Etymology: German, by shortening & alteration from Nationalsozialist, from national national + Sozialist socialist
1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler
2 often not capitalized : one who resembles a German Nazi
- nazi adjective, often capitalized

[Prosperity]

Originally posted by LC80
Nazi:

Pronunciation: 'nät-sE, 'nat-
Function: noun
Etymology: German, by shortening & alteration from Nationalsozialist, from national national + Sozialist socialist
1 : a member of a German fascist party controlling Germany from 1933 to 1945 under Adolf Hitler
2 often not capitalized : one who resembles a German Nazi
- nazi adjective, often capitalized


Hah, thanks for beating me to it. Looks like he isn't even good at that. He must feel a little silly.

[hokie4redskins]

You're right, I'm devastated. I feel a little "silly".

[Cdowwe]

websters has it capitalized

[SonnyRules]

Man has this thread deteiorated into political BS and immature name calling.

Not what I expected.....just enjoy the spirit of the post.

[hokie4redskins]

So does the Women's Division of the General Board of Global Ministries of the United Methodist Church. Gotta love Google. I think this debate deserves its own thread.

Nazi - Always capitalized. Used to refer to the organization, ideology and paraphernalia of the National German Workers Party circa 1923-1945; to war criminals and others associated with that period in their current manifestation; and to political forces which collaborated with the NSDAP during that period.

http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/anti-hate/definitions.cfm

[SEF]

Originally posted by Cdowwe
websters has it capitalized

"Webster's" should be capitalized.

[SEF]

Originally posted by hokie4redskins
So does the Women's Division of the General Board of Global Ministries of the United Methodist Church. Gotta love Google. I think this debate deserves its own thread.

Nazi - Always capitalized. Used to refer to the organization, ideology and paraphernalia of the National German Workers Party circa 1923-1945; to war criminals and others associated with that period in their current manifestation; and to political forces which collaborated with the NSDAP during that period.

http://gbgm-umc.org/umw/anti-hate/definitions.cfm

:laugh:

[BlueTalon]

Originally posted by hokie4redskins
"Nazi" is capitalized.

LOL!!!! :notworthy :cheers:

[Thiebear]

I liked some of the quotes... Thank god (i know its capitalized) nobody gets every word I say and replay them back in piece/part.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally posted by Thiebear
I liked some of the quotes... Thank god (i know its capitalized) nobody gets every word I say and replay them back in piece/part.

Yeah honestly Bear, I have no clue what the hell you are talking about 80 percent of the time :laugh:

I do figure though that 80 percent of the time I agree with you

[Bonez3]

Felt obligated to weigh in once again, two minutes or days apart.

My true regrets for seeming 'aggressive' with one of my posts. It was not a veiled threat, it was a direct one. If it costs me membership on this site... well i was raised to stand up for what I believe is right. And I feel calling individuals commy's in a negative fashion without any true knowledge of their history is more a veiled threat. Location and screen name due not make the person. But, my regrets for overstating my displeasure.

Finally, I didn't intend to debate whether crippling the economy or unqualified work scabs was the point with PATCO. I simply wanted to point out the LIE Reagan sold the controllers. The aftermath and the possible outcomes are irrelevant.

Reagan gave the controllers his word...on paper. He later renegotiated his position. That was my problem, and I wont respect the man for that.

Just my opinion, no need to fight.

[herrmag]

Originally posted by T.E.G.
Must resist...


Must resist...too late...can't resist


:D


A tree's a tree. How many more do you need to look at?"
--Ronald Reagan (Governor of California), quoted in the Sacramento Bee, opposing expansion of Redwood National Park, March 3, 1966

"I don't believe a tree is a tree and if you've seen one you've seen them all."
--Governor Ronald Reagan, in the Sacramento Bee, September 14, 1966

"All the waste in a year from a nuclear power plant can be stored under a desk."
--Ronald Reagan (Republican candidate for president), quoted in the Burlington (Vermont) Free Press, February 15, 1980. (In reality, the average nuclear reactor generates 30 tons of radioactive waste per year.)



"I've said it before and I'll say it again. The U.S. Geological Survey has told me that the proven potential for oil in Alaska alone is greater than the proven reserves in Saudi Arabia."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Detroit Free Press, March 23, 1980. (According to the USGS, the Saudi reserves of 165.5 billion barrels are 17 times the proven reserves--9.2 billion barrels--in Alaska.)


"Trains are not any more energy efficient than the average automobile, with both getting about 48 passenger miles to the gallon."
--Ronald Reagan, quoted in the Chicago Tribune, May 10, 1980. (The U.S. Department of Transportation calculates that a 14-car train traveling at 80 miles per hour gets 400 passenger miles to the gallon. A 1980 auto carrying an average of 2.2 people gets 42.6 passenger miles to the gallon.)


"...the moral equal of our Founding Fathers."
--President Reagan, describing the Nicaraguan contras, March 1, 1985


"I know all the bad things that happened in that war. I was in uniform four years myself."
--President Reagan, in an interview with foreign journalists, April 19, 1985. (Reagan spent World War II making Army training films at Hal Roach Studios in Hollywood.)


"I favor the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and it must be enforced at the point of a bayonet, if necessary."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, October 20, 1965

"I would have voted against the Civil Rights Act of 1964."
--Ronald Reagan, Los Angeles Times, June 17, 1966



"But I also happen to be someone who believes in tithing--the giving of a tenth [to charity]."
--Ronald Reagan, from The Weekly Compilation of Presidential Documents, February 8, 1982. (He may believe in tithing, but he doesn't practice it. Reagan's total charitable giving of $5,965 did not approach 10% of total income. It was closer to 1.4%.)



"Because Vietnam was not a declared war, the veterans are not even eligible for the G. I. Bill of Rights with respect to education or anything."
--Ronald Reagan, in Newsweek, April 21, 1980. (Wrong.)

Congrats on taking every statement out of context. You truly have a future in politics. Look up when and why he made those statements.

[PokerPacker]

Originally posted by herrmag


Congrats on taking every statement out of context. You truly have a future in politics. Look up when and why he made those statements.
i think thats more of a media career:D

[Larry]

Originally posted by herrmag
Congrats on taking every statement out of context. You truly have a future in politics. Look up when and why he made those statements.

Why should he bother, when you have the context of every single one of those statements, right now?

After all, I know that you wouldn't call someone a liar (and better yet, state that every single one of his statements is a lie) without having the facts available, yourself, would you?

(Unless, of course, you truely have a past in politics.)

[Prosperity]

Originally posted by Bonez3
Felt obligated to weigh in once again, two minutes or days apart.

My true regrets for seeming 'aggressive' with one of my posts. It was not a veiled threat, it was a direct one. If it costs me membership on this site... well i was raised to stand up for what I believe is right. And I feel calling individuals commy's in a negative fashion without any true knowledge of their history is more a veiled threat. Location and screen name due not make the person. But, my regrets for overstating my displeasure.

Finally, I didn't intend to debate whether crippling the economy or unqualified work scabs was the point with PATCO. I simply wanted to point out the LIE Reagan sold the controllers. The aftermath and the possible outcomes are irrelevant.

Reagan gave the controllers his word...on paper. He later renegotiated his position. That was my problem, and I wont respect the man for that.

Just my opinion, no need to fight.

The internet tough guy stuff is not needed, but you do have to call out people that spew out random vitriolic rhetoric. I have been called a hippy and a commie by certain idiots on this message board. These people can only think in black and white they don't have the reasoning skills to understand that everyone who disgrees with their neocon world order is not a hippy or a communist.

[The Evil Genius]

Originally posted by herrmag


Congrats on taking every statement out of context. You truly have a future in politics. Look up when and why he made those statements.

Why don't you save me the trouble and explain to us why all those quotes were made.

Especially the ones that contradict themselves one year apart. :)

[DjTj]

You know, I think this has got to be one of the most poorly titled threads ever ... it should have been more like: "No Matter What Your Politics Is, You'll Probably get into an argument over this because this is the tailgate and we argue over everything - especially grammar."

[Kilmer17]

You shouldn't use a hyphen between everything and especially. It should be a semi-colon!?@

[Destino]

Great quotes (I like the first set myself), grahm3r pohleece and thin skinned right wingers. I love this thread! :D

[SonnyRules]

Originally posted by DjTj
You know, I think this has got to be one of the most poorly titled threads ever ... it should have been more like: "No Matter What Your Politics Is, You'll Probably get into an argument over this because this is the tailgate and we argue over everything - especially grammar."

DjTj,

Should I change it now.

Never anticipated the way this thread went downhill so fast; no matter how entertaining it has become.

[chomerics]

Originally posted by SkinsHokieFan
[B]

Yeah honestly Bear, I have no clue what the hell you are talking about 80 percent of the time :laugh:

Thank god, I though it was just myself . . . at least I can tell the people in my head this now :)

[36SKINS56]

You hippies and commies are right. Reagan was a horrible speaker and a horrible man!!!!!!!....nothing like the great orator himself, Bill "definition of is is" Clinton


"It depends on how you define "alone" ... there were a lot of times when we were alone, but I never really thought we were."

"I can spend your money better than you can."

"You can't say you love your country and hate your government." - Bill Clinton, 1995 (After the OKC bombing)

"A lot of wonderful people love their country and hate the military." - Bill Clinton, 1969 (Letter to the National Guard)

"Just try to imagine what it would be like to be 300 million years old." -- President Clinton in Ashe County, N.C. He was speaking on the banks of the New River, which scientists say is the oldest river in the United States

"No one wants to get this (Lewinsky) matter behind us more than I do, except maybe all the rest of the American people,"

"You know the one thing that's wrong with this country? Everyone gets a chance to have their fair say."

"I can tell you that the decisions we made, we made because we thought they were in the interests of the American people,"--Bill Clinton, on being asked why he signed waivers, against the Pentagon's protest, to sell Loral missile guidance systems technology to Communist China, enabling China for the first time to launch nuclear weapons ( Well i really think that risking our National Security was in our best interest)

"And the deficit has come down for four years in a row for the first time since before the Civl War. I meant to say since before World War II. But maybe it should be since before the Civil War."

From Time magazine. 6/17/96 p. 104
refers to "Juanita" a recently discovered Inca mummy
"You know, if I were a single man, I might ask that mummy out. That's a good-looking mummy!"---Bill Clinton

AND MY ALLTIME FAVORITE...ESPECIALLY SINCE EVERYONE CALLS CLINTON THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT.......

"African-Americans watch the same news at night that ordinary Americans do."
President Clinton on Black Entertainment Television, November 2, 1994

[chomerics]

With all the hatred and partisain rhetoric running in this thread, I was suprised not to see any Clinton bashing. . .

I guess I should have learned by now huh. :doh:

[Destino]

It took 4 long pages for Clinton to be dragged into this. Come one GOP you are getting too slow, Rove would be furious!

[Kilmer17]

Yeah, how dare someone bring up a past President in a thread about a past President.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Originally posted by Liberty


The internet tough guy stuff is not needed, but you do have to call out people that spew out random vitriolic rhetoric. I have been called a hippy and a commie by certain idiots on this message board. These people can only think in black and white they don't have the reasoning skills to understand that everyone who disgrees with their neocon world order is not a hippy or a communist.

Yes you are you damn hippy commie! :cuss: :laugh:

[The Evil Genius]

Clinton quotes are hilarious. :D


Of course, no one is trying to get Clinton on Mt. Rushmore. Or have every single building named after him (except for maybe Mr. Clinton himself :laugh:) - so I suppose its not the same thing, huh?

I would also like to point out the Reagan quotes had sources linked to them - I would think the same level of standard should apply for any other quotes, no?

[Destino]

Originally posted by Kilmer17
Yeah, how dare someone bring up a past President in a thread about a past President. Exactly. What the hell are they thinking. Oh well back to reading chomsky and hugging my tree.

[Kilmer17]

Originally posted by T.E.G.
Clinton quotes are hilarious. :D


Of course, no one is trying to get Clinton on Mt. Rushmore. Or have every single building named after him (except for maybe Mr. Clinton himself :laugh:) - so I suppose its not the same thing, huh?

I would also like to point out the Reagan quotes had sources linked to them - I would think the same level of standard should apply for any other quotes, no?

A couple of things TEG. Yes, same standard should apply.

Clinton has had many buildings and roads etc named after him. And Im pretty sure you didnt really mean "EVERY SINGLE BUILDING" did you?

Also, the difference is time. Clinton will never come close to the stature of Reagan. I dont think either belongs on Mt Rushmore, but I can certainly see why Reagans name would come before Clintons.


I also expect to hear more efforts to deify Clinton after a decade or more.

[36SKINS56]

The link is on the way fellas...




And yea....I am such a jerk for bringing up a democrat and bashing him...that type of behavior is only reserved for when a republican is the target of misguided remarks!!! I am so STUPID!!

[36SKINS56]

Remember...you guys asked for it:

http://www.gargaro.com/clintonquotes.html

My favorite part is how the link includes hundreds of stupid clinton quotes and also features the father or the internet, Al Gore

[SEF]

Reagan did preside over the most corrupt administration in memory and came out without a scratch. Got to give him credit for that.

[Predicto]

Originally posted by Kilmer17
Yeah, how dare someone bring up a past President in a thread about a past President.

Wait a second. Someone posted Reagan quotes. Someone else mosted other Reagan quotes. We aregued about Reagan.

Then, bam, someone throws Bill Clinton into the mix. Christ, why not Woodrow Wilson?

[The Evil Genius]

Originally posted by Predicto


Wait a second. Someone posted Reagan quotes. Someone else mosted other Reagan quotes. We aregued about Reagan.

Then, bam, someone throws Bill Clinton into the mix. Christ, why not Woodrow Wilson?

You asked for it. ;)

Wilson quotes - no clue as to the original sources...


A conservative is a man who just sits and thinks, mostly sits.

A conservative is someone who makes no changes and consults his grandmother when in doubt.

A non-entity with side-whiskers (on Chester A Arthur)

By 'radical,' I understand one who goes too far; by 'conservative,' one who does not go far enough; by 'reactionary,' one who won't go at all.

Every man who takes office in Washington either grows or swells, and when I give a man an office, I watch him carefully to see whether he is growing or swelling.

Harding is incapable of thought, because he has nothing to think with. (on Warren G Harding)

He combined great gifts with a great mediocrity. (on Ulysses S Grant)

I have long enjoyed the friendship and companionship of Republicans because I am by instinct a teacher, and I would like to teach them something.

If a man is a fool, the best thing to do is to encourage him to advertise the fact by speaking. It cannot be so easily discovered if you allow him to remain silent and look wise. But if you let him speak, the secret is out.

If I am to speak ten minutes, I need a week for preparation; if fifteen minutes, three days; if half an hour, two days; if an hour, I am ready now.

If you think too much about being re-elected, it is very difficult to be worth re-electing.

If you want to make enemies, try to change something.

Never murder a man who is committing suicide.


The trouble with the Republican party is that it has not had a new idea in 30 years. I am not speaking as a politician; I am speaking as a historian.

The way to stop financial joy-riding is to arrest the chauffeur, not the automobile.

What's the use of wasting good serviceable indignation on him? (on Theodore Roosevelt)

[chomerics]

Originally posted by 36SKINS56
Remember...you guys asked for it:

http://www.gargaro.com/clintonquotes.html

My favorite part is how the link includes hundreds of stupid clinton quotes and also features the father or the internet, Al Gore

Again, they are not correctly sourced, they are out of context and just plain lies.

Take this one for example. . .


"We could give it all back to you and hope you spend it right... But ... if you don't spend it right, here's what's going to happen. In 2013 -- that's just 14 years away -- taxes people pay on their payroll for Social Security will no longer cover the monthly checks... I want every parent here to look at the young people here, and ask yourself, 'Do you really want to run the risk of squandering this surplus?' "

Here is the entire speech, and the part taken IN CONTEXT . . .

Now, we're going to have a big argument about this. And we should, and I hope it will be a good debate. But I believe, since we have -- as the Vice President said -- this $70 billion surplus from last year and a bigger one coming this year, since it's projected that over a 25-year period we will average substantial surpluses on an annual basis -- now, they'll go up and down with the economy, but the point is we have no permanent deficit anymore, the natural condition is a surplus, okay -- so the question is, what do we do with it?

We could give it all back to you and hope you spend it right. (Applause.) But I think -- here's the problem. If you don't spend it right, here's what's going to happen. In 2013 -- that's just 14 years away -- taxes people pay on their payroll for Social Security will no longer cover the monthly checks. So we have to get into the Social Security trust fund, the savings account. By 2032, it will be gone. After that, if we haven't done something, we can only pay a little over 70 percent of the benefits. By then, the cost of living will be higher and it will be devastating.

Even before that, by 2010, the Medicare fund will run out of money. Why? Because the fastest growing group of people -- this is a high-class problem, this is a high-class problem, we should be so lucky to have only problems like this -- the fastest growing group of people in America are people over 80. And I hope to be one some day, and so do you, right? (Applause.) And so does -- I hope, every child in this audience will live to be over 80. The kids in this audience actually will have a life expectancy of about 85 years if medical science keeps advancing.

But the older you get, the more you need a doctor, or the more you need drugs or the more you need something just to kind of get through the day -- I'm finding that out already. (Laughter.) Everything kind of hurts when it's cold and you've got to stretch your legs more. So that's going to happen by 2010.

So what I said last night is not as popular as what others can tell you. Others can say, we've got this surplus now, I just want a big tax cut, I'll give it back to you, you'll figure out what to do with it. But I believe if we save 60 percent of this surplus for Social Security, here's what we can do. We can make the trust fund all right to 2055. We can protect Social Security for 55 years. (Applause.) We have a list of other options that are all a little controversial, but if we can get the Republicans and Democrats to hold hands, we could do it. It wouldn't hurt anybody very much. They're really good things for the program over the long run.

Besides, why you are posting from a website who had a ribbon campaign to "Save Paula Jones" I have no idea :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

http://www.gargaro.com/paulajones2.html

[36SKINS56]

Correction Predicto, someone posted some positive quotes, not mentioning anything partisan, then someone posted (not mosted) quotes that depicted one of our countries greatest leaders in a negative light. Then began a tirade of negativity towards Reagan. Negativity is something that democrats thrive on. Republicans think forward. How to better the country, how to better ourselves, and basically how to better life as a whole. Then liberals sit back and say "damn it! Why did I not think of that:?!...It must be a bad idea". "This idea will lose the minority vote, so even though it will help the nation, I want to sit my fat rump in that government position in 2 or 4 years so lets shout it down!" So then fat pigs like Michael Moore, enraged and scared begin spinning yarns, taking quotes out of context, and attemtping to sway the nation with their propoganda. Everyone sits back and watches the liberal media (except for the great Fox News), reads their liberal papers (especially those of you in the DC area who are dumb enough to trick themselves into thinking the Washington ComPost is a valid paper), and formulate your opinions based on hairball schemes and crackpot thoughts that people ram into your skulls.

I brought Clinton into the mix becuase liberals are close minded, stubborn A-holes. They think their S smells like roses, and cannot bare it when the opposite party is idolized for doing great things for our nation. I stated my favorite quote was the one where Clinton said that African Americans are not humans. I listed this as my favorite, because once again, the media has painted a democrat as a saint. Labeling Clinton as the first black president is disgraceful. As someone who lives in the south, let me tell you that a poor, white southerner growing up in small farm-town Arkansas would not be appealing to African Americans unless he had a vote to gain. Do you think a 14 year old Clinton was dying to help African Americans? NO! He wants a vote. Republicans appeal to America, not a race, not a creed, but America as a whole.

I enjoyed the first post on this thread and not much after. Once again liberals have managed to take something, and make it difficult and deficient. You have managed to take things out of context and twisted them to make you sleep better at night. Congratulations, you have only reinforced what I had already known, YOU ARE LIBERAL HIPPY COMMIES!


PEACE!

[36SKINS56]

Chomerics...


I am not part of any official organization related to the Paula Jones case - I am a single female web developer who decided to do something to voice my support for Paula Jones' right to a fair trial...


I forgot, that would piss a liberal off. Fair Trials? F THAT!

[Predicto]

Oooo-kay.

Welcome to the Tailgate, 36Skins.

If you want to post on a board that only reinforces your already strongly held views, I suggest that you try FreeRepublic.com or something. Here, we actually discuss issues from both sides, and with rare exceptions, we attempt to avoid name calling and blatant trolling.

Your invective filled and simplistic post would have embarassed NavyDave, and that is saying a lot.

[Larry]

Originally posted by 36SKINS56
Correction Predicto, someone posted some positive quotes, not mentioning anything partisan, then someone posted (not mosted) quotes that depicted one of our countries greatest leaders in a negative light. Then began a tirade of negativity towards Reagan. Negativity is something that democrats thrive on. Republicans think forward. How to better the country, how to better ourselves, and basically how to better life as a whole. Then liberals sit back and say "damn it! Why did I not think of that:?!...It must be a bad idea". "This idea will lose the minority vote, so even though it will help the nation, I want to sit my fat rump in that government position in 2 or 4 years so lets shout it down!" So then fat pigs like Michael Moore, enraged and scared begin spinning yarns, taking quotes out of context, and attemtping to sway the nation with their propoganda. Everyone sits back and watches the liberal media (except for the great Fox News), reads their liberal papers (especially those of you in the DC area who are dumb enough to trick themselves into thinking the Washington ComPost is a valid paper), and formulate your opinions based on hairball schemes and crackpot thoughts that people ram into your skulls.

I brought Clinton into the mix becuase liberals are close minded, stubborn A-holes. They think their S smells like roses, and cannot bare it when the opposite party is idolized for doing great things for our nation. I stated my favorite quote was the one where Clinton said that African Americans are not humans. I listed this as my favorite, because once again, the media has painted a democrat as a saint. Labeling Clinton as the first black president is disgraceful. As someone who lives in the south, let me tell you that a poor, white southerner growing up in small farm-town Arkansas would not be appealing to African Americans unless he had a vote to gain. Do you think a 14 year old Clinton was dying to help African Americans? NO! He wants a vote. Republicans appeal to America, not a race, not a creed, but America as a whole.

I enjoyed the first post on this thread and not much after. Once again liberals have managed to take something, and make it difficult and deficient. You have managed to take things out of context and twisted them to make you sleep better at night. Congratulations, you have only reinforced what I had already known, YOU ARE LIBERAL HIPPY COMMIES!


PEACE!

Y'know,

If I were to accuse Republicans of having the same characteristics that you've just demonstrated, I think I'd get banned for a week.

(That's not a way of saying "you're scum, you!". That's a way of saying "Doesn't this guy have any idea of what he's doing to the image of 'his side'?")

[36SKINS56]

I care less about my sides image, and more about teaching it to those who are clueless about many aspects of the conservative pov. Many people agree, but many lack the (forgive me for lack of a better word) balls.

[Prosperity]

Originally posted by 36SKINS56
I care less about my sides image, and more about teaching it to those who are clueless about many aspects of the conservative pov. Many people agree, but many lack the (forgive me for lack of a better word) balls.

You did a lot to educate on the conservative POV, thanks.

[SEF]

Originally posted by 36SKINS56
I care less about my sides image, and more about teaching it to those who are clueless about many aspects of the conservative pov. Many people agree, but many lack the (forgive me for lack of a better word) balls.

You are a great spokesman. Good luck with your balls and stuff.

[Henry]

Whatever you thought of Reagan you have to admit he was a witty guy.

Oh well. Another thread bites the dust.