FedEx Field rated low by TSN

[Kilmer]

http://sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=10844


Does it really suck that bad?

[LoGiK]

wtf? Im liking everyone thinking us as the under-dog this year. We got something to prove. :rolleyes:

[Buford]

I talked to a player last year about where he liked. He said FedEx was average...the actual field conditions in Pittsburgh and Baltimore were awful for grass. Especially Baltimore. He said the drainage would leave crazy puddles.

Umm, I think he said Seattle's fake turf was nice....

[Skins24]

#1 thing to improve FedEx field: Wins

[BigCb37]

Yeah it sucks. You don't notice how much it blows unless you are sober...

I didnt even realize until one game last season when I went with my girlfriend. "Whats up with all the commercials during the timeouts?" You pay over $100 to be at the game and you get just as many crappy commercials during the breaks as you would if you sat at home watching on TV. At least at home you can Tivo through the commecials.

[HOF44]

At least we have a good energy rating, thats all we fans can really control. And we have a history of losing for the last 10 years and we still rate an 8out of 10 for energy. If we start winning they'll crank that up to a 12 out of 10.

HOF44
Bob

[BigCb37]

And if they show that stupid commercial with the coach getting hit in the nuts by the little kid football player and a helicopter comes to help him, I'm going to take a hostage.

[DB44]

#1 thing to improve FedEx field: Wins
Bingo. Energy level,game day experience sense of history would all be higher if we had a winning team.

0 of Location? I guess they're talking about a downtown ballpark, which is terrible for traffic conditions. :doh:

7 for Field conditions. I have walked FedEx and its like a fairway. :doh:

Whatever, if compared to RFK for game day experience, thereis no comparison. RFK was a great place to watch a football game.

[Posse81]

I have no gripes with that ranking. I'm a season ticket holder and the game day experience is very poor. Spending good money on tickets, food/beer, and enduring a brutal commute in and out of the stadium after seeing your team lose--and having too many opposing teams fans to deal with really hurts the overall experience. Wins can fix everything though. Supposedly the field and drainage system are top of the line.

[Destino]

It's not in DC, which isn't the teams fault, but still sucks. It's loaded with other team fans and arrogant "got my tickets from work" executive types that don't seem to get it. I've seen people be hushed for cheering when defensive players are asking for crowd noise....that kind of crap would get you stabbed in most countries. It just doesn't have the crazy "our house!" feel to it. RFK was known as one of the craziest places to play, this place....is nice. Ya dig?

[jwebst1]

This survey has nothing to do with wins and loses...... if it did, the Browns energy level wouldn't be a 10

I agree with every grade and hope Snyder is reading. I know he didn't put it there, so he can't be blamed for location, but his decisions certainly effect the gameday experience.

In any case, that survey is sad to look at as a Skins fan.

[skinstzar]

Yeah it sucks. You don't notice how much it blows unless you are sober...

I didnt even realize until one game last season when I went with my girlfriend. "Whats up with all the commercials during the timeouts?" You pay over $100 to be at the game and you get just as many crappy commercials during the breaks as you would if you sat at home watching on TV. At least at home you can Tivo through the commecials.


I was lucky enough to experience the joy that was RFK. I have gone to most of the games that have been at Fedex and the place just keeps getting worse. On my drive into the stadium the other night the lines where long. The parking staff was unattentive and nearly caused an accident. Then when I got into the stadium the food was absolutely horrible. I had the chicken tenders and fries for 9.00. The fries where like limp cold potato noodles and the chicken was like eating fried bologna. I thought I was going to vomit they were that bad. The beer is 7.00 a piece. The jumbo-tron is by no means Jumbo. It did seem to be in HD this year though. The replays were not but the live feeds where. The acoustics are extremely bad. The traffic leaving the stadium is horrible. Why they did not make this stadium easily metro accessible is still something I ponder often. Then there is the team itself. The players and coaches have taken a chapter out of the Patriots playbook by just running out on to the field and not doing introductions. I haven't heard the PA announcer announce Joe Gibbs and have him run out of the tunnel since he returned to coaching. All of you who say that he doesn't want put the attention on himself and individuals can shove it. I want to build that fever pitch by hearing Sean Taylor's name, Lavar Arrington's name, Chris Cooley's name and by God Joe Freakin Gibb's name so I can loose my S*** and go nuts with 90k other fans in the stands. I live and die by the team but the fan experience at Fed Ex is a 2 on a scale of 10.

[HOF44]

My #1 game day experience problem is parking. The parking and traffic are the biggest problems at fedex.

HOF44
Bob

[jwebst1]

I was lucky enough to experience the joy that was RFK. I have gone to most of the games that have been at Fedex and the place just keeps getting worse. On my drive into the stadium the other night the lines where long. The parking staff was unattentive and nearly caused an accident. Then when I got into the stadium the food was absolutely horrible. I had the chicken tenders and fries for 9.00. The fries where like limp cold potato noodles and the chicken was like eating fried bologna. I thought I was going to vomit they were that bad. The beer is 7.00 a piece. The jumbo-tron is by no means Jumbo. It did seem to be in HD this year though. The replays were not but the live feeds where. The acoustics are extremely bad. The traffic leaving the stadium is horrible. Why they did not make this stadium easily metro accessible is still something I ponder often. Then there is the team itself. The players and coaches have taken a chapter out of the Patriots playbook by just running out on to the field and not doing introductions. I haven't heard the PA announcer announce Joe Gibbs and have him run out of the tunnel since he returned to coaching. All of you who say that he doesn't want put the attention on himself and individuals can shove it. I want to build that fever pitch by hearing Sean Taylor's name, Lavar Arrington's name, Chris Cooley's name and by God Joe Freakin Gibb's name so I can loose my S*** and go nuts with 90k other fans in the stands. I live and die by the team but the fan experience at Fed Ex is a 2 on a scale of 10.

GREAT POST... AGREE WITH EVERY WORD :applause:

[dfbovey]

Fed Ex has alot of seats and that's about it. Not alot of character. I wonder if Snyder would have liked to have built this thing himself rather... or if he'd entertain the idea of building a new stadium in DC?

And I've experienced those executive idiots first hand. If you don't want to hear people cheer, sit your ass down on the couch and watch the game at home.

[KingGibbs]

And if they show that stupid commercial with the coach getting hit in the nuts by the little kid football player and a helicopter comes to help him, I'm going to take a hostage.

No *****. They do realize that it's not funny anymore, don't they?
Also, God help us if we have to see the 'Funky Four' one more friggin' time. :rolleyes:

[Kyle]

It seems like they have turned down the volume of the commercials somewhat this year. In prior years, the volume of the commercials was so loud, that it would stop the crowd cold during any break. Hopefully this is a trend that we will see in the regular season.

[jwebst1]

Fed Ex has alot of seats and that's about it. Not alot of character. I wonder if Snyder would have liked to have built this thing himself rather... or if he'd entertain the idea of building a new stadium in DC?

And I've experienced those executive idiots first hand. If you don't want to hear people cheer, sit your ass down on the couch and watch the game at home.

I always forget that Snyder didn't build FedEx, because the blueprint and location of the stadium certainly have his name written all over it.... eg. the largest stadium in the NFL so he can pack all of his customers, I mean fans into it.... a stadium in the middle of nowhere so fans have no option but to pay for parking.... but that stuff really isn't his fault.

My problems go back to what everyone else is saying... and some of it's small but it all adds up:

1. can't even bring a peanut and drop of water into the stadium (at Giants stadium we made sandwiches, brought in bags of chips and sodas, etc)

2. he has added on to the largest stadium in the NFL with obstructed view seats, etc., essentially devauling what it really means to have a ticket into the game because you everyone and their mother is trying to get rid of them.

3. more seats, yet no more bathrooms. love not being able to see a quarter of football because I have to pee

4. no giveaway days... a pee cup maybe?

5. ridiculous prices... and I know it's just not FedEx but if I'm paying 9 bucks for chicken fingers and fries it shouldn't make me want to miss a quarter of football to wait in the bathroom line to throw up

6. tradition of the band is gone because loud, annoying commercials are played every second he gets

ETC, ETC, ETC

[DB44]

3. more seats, yet no more bathrooms. love not being able to see a quarter of football because I have to pee

4. no giveaway days... a pee cup maybe?

:laugh: :applause: :notworthy hilarious

Honestly, if they let you bring in some food, and tone down the music and Extremely loud commercials, I'd be happy.

[Chachie]

Oh it's no secret that FedEx field BLOWS. I just want the team that hosts there to win.

[RAVENS_SUCK_HUN]

What I don't like it the Radio Shack sound system and the 13 inch monitors.

[Kilmer]

This actually saddens me. I have only ever been to the old Bengals Riverfront (which was aweful) and Brown's(lots of obstructed seats, I was in them) stadiums, never got a chance to go to RFK when I lived in Maryland. Ohio State fans take a lot of pride in the Horseshoe...which reminds me of the pride Redskins fans had about RFK. Even though there is probably no chance in hell I will ever attend a game at FedEx field, as a fan I would like to be proud of where my team play.

[E-Dog Night]

It's the McMansion of stadiums. All big, no soul.

[GoSkinsGo]

FedEx compared to M&T are night in day. As much as I hate to say it Ravens stadium is tenfold what FedEx is. Nicer the jumbotron is actually god forbid a jumbotron.

All this bitching could go away if we just win some games.

[RAVENS_SUCK_HUN]

FedEx compared to M&T are night in day. As much as I hate to say it Ravens stadium is tenfold what FedEx is. Nicer the jumbotron is actually god forbid a jumbotron.

All this bitching could go away if we just win some games.


Hate to agree with you, but I do. Whats worse is the stadium is in a city and the parking and traffic is so much better than Fed Ex. That's what really pi**es me off.

[jbooma]

We must have the weakeast jumbotron in the league, plus why can't Danny put up any of the history as well the scores from the other games.

Ravens stadium is very nice though.

[Fifty Gut]

there could be more Redskins history throughout the stadium, that's fa sho

[RAVENS_SUCK_HUN]

We must have the weakeast jumbotron in the league, plus why can't Danny put up any of the history as well the scores from the other games.

Ravens stadium is very nice though.

YES! That is a BIG problem......divisional team scores, fantasy leagues, bookies. So many reason for it.

[jwebst1]

Have been to a million O's games and a few Ravens games..... and it's like being on a different planet. Here are the major differences, just outside of the stadium:

1. Parking - there aren't just stadium lots, but garages too. If you don't like that, you can even take the light rail, which drops you off right in front of the stadium, not a 25-minute walk away. you can also park anywhere in the city, like Federal Hill (where I usually end up being able to park for free)... with FedEx, it's pay 100 bucks to park or put your walking shoes on... and before last year, your walking shoes wouldn't only get you to the edge of the parking lot because they wouldn't even let you in.

2- Setting - at FedEx it's strictly tailgating, which is great... I love tailgating. But that's your only option. What if it's raining, what if you are with people who aren't into drinking and don't want to hang out in the cold... at M&T you can tailgate OR you can walk downtown or to Federal Hill where there are an unlimited amount of restuarants and bars. the Ravens games I have been to we ended up drinking at a bar and watching the pre-game shows, etc.

3 - Congestion - I am out of Baltimore after a game in 5-10 minutes, if that. During a game at FedEx, even if it's pre-season, you can count on waiting for about an hour or maybe more.

Once inside, you have a huge jumbo tron and there are no bad seats.

I know I sound like a looney, but it's irritating to experience a gameday like that when your favorite team has something completely opposite.

[RAVENS_SUCK_HUN]

Have been to a million O's games and a few Ravens games..... and it's like being on a different planet. Here are the major differences, just outside of the stadium:

1. Parking - there aren't just stadium lots, but garages too. If you don't like that, you can even take the light rail, which drops you off right in front of the stadium, not a 25-minute walk away. you can also park anywhere in the city, like Federal Hill (where I usually end up being able to park for free)... with FedEx, it's pay 100 bucks to park or put your walking shoes on... and before last year, your walking shoes wouldn't only get you to the edge of the parking lot because they wouldn't even let you in.

2- Setting - at FedEx it's strictly tailgating, which is great... I love tailgating. But that's your only option. What if it's raining, what if you are with people who aren't into drinking and don't want to hang out in the cold... at M&T you can tailgate OR you can walk downtown or to Federal Hill where there are an unlimited amount of restuarants and bars. the Ravens games I have been to we ended up drinking at a bar and watching the pre-game shows, etc.

3 - Congestion - I am out of Baltimore after a game in 5-10 minutes, if that. During a game at FedEx, even if it's pre-season, you can count on waiting for about an hour or maybe more.

Once inside, you have a huge jumbo tron and there are no bad seats.

I know I sound like a looney, but it's irritating to experience a gameday like that when your favorite team has something completely opposite.

Totally agree! That's yet another reason why I hate living here. The fans won't shut up about how great there stadium is. I agree it is nicer. BUT, I will NEVER say that to a Baltimore fan. Also, their stadium is so much smaller, but it's so much louder. I hate it.

[jwsleep]

These are all good things to ask Danny about during the extreme chat!

I do think winning makes everything look better, but nothing can save those god-awful chicken fingers. I don't understand why he can't contract that stuff out to a decent company--Danny could probably figure out how to make a mint on it. Jeeze, how about McDonalds? Just franchise it out!

Completely agree about the BS of them not letting you bring in ANYTHING. Guess that's why he makes the big money...

As for the location, can't blame Danny for that--that was the Squire's doing, wasn't it?

Still, so many things could be improved.

1. The mini-tron
2. The quality of the food (forget the prices)
3. Crazy idea--Danny should open some bar-restaurants on the land around fed ex--create a "redskins food court"--he'd make a mint off of people tailgating and eating before and after games.
4. More bathrooms
5. More access roads to fed ex (they're probably trying to do this...)
6. win some friggin games!!!!

[hail2skins]

The responses to this thread are pretty interesting, and FedEx could be better to be sure, but is anyone questioning Pompeii's methodology in this grading chart? Was there a accompanying article to the chart that I'm not seeing? I guess there are some things I agree with, but, looking at the categories for FedEx:

Architecture (2): OK, I won't debate this one much. JKC seemed to be in a hurry to get this operational and seemed to just slop this one up.

Energy level (8): Curiously higher than I thought, given the amount of complaining about the wine-and-cheesers on here. Maybe we are better than we think.

Sense of history (3): This one has me scratching my head. OK, I know perhaps there can more stuff at the stadium celebrating the Redskins past. But Reliant Stadium, which hosts a team which is 4 years old, rates a 6? QWest, home of a team which has been in for 30 years, gets a 7? Huh? What does Pompeii mean in this category?

Location (0): Although its vogue to build stadiums in downtown areas these days, I get sick of people complaining how long it takes to get in and out of FedEx. I've been to the Linc (gets a 5) and M&T (6) and you still face a good amount of traffic upon exiting the stadium. As Mike Wilbon says, make a day of it. Arrive early and leave late. Deal with it.......quit whining!

Condition (7): Probably accurate......FedEx is probably beginning to show its age a little but is fairly well maintained.

Game Day Experience (2): One would think this would correlate a lot with the energy level. I guess FedEx's "horrible" location (Pompeii would have you think its in Waldorf) and Snyder's insistance on advertisement overload left a bad taste in the reviewers mouth.

Oh well, that's my two cents. I always maintain that the fans can make the experience a better one.......I simply ask that they don't do the wave in the middle of a close game, and PLEASE don't walk in front of me while play is in progress. Your urge to empty your bladder/bowels or to stuff another hot dog down your piehole can wait until a break in the action!

Finally, in the words of Mark Kessler....."LOOOOOOOVE THAT CHICKEN FROM POPEYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYES!"

[Yusuf06]

These are all good things to ask Danny about during the extreme chat!

I do think winning makes everything look better, but nothing can save those god-awful chicken fingers. I don't understand why he can't contract that stuff out to a decent company--Danny could probably figure out how to make a mint on it. Jeeze, how about McDonalds? Just franchise it out!

Completely agree about the BS of them not letting you bring in ANYTHING. Guess that's why he makes the big money...

As for the location, can't blame Danny for that--that was the Squire's doing, wasn't it?

Still, so many things could be improved.

1. The mini-tron
2. The quality of the food (forget the prices)
3. Crazy idea--Danny should open some bar-restaurants on the land around fed ex--create a "redskins food court"--he'd make a mint off of people tailgating and eating before and after games.
4. More bathrooms
5. More access roads to fed ex (they're probably trying to do this...)
6. win some friggin games!!!!

HEEEEEEYYYY!! 1) It's the "Tiny-Tron" thank you very much. Sheesh, you'd think they'd actually be able to get the name right. :rolleyes:

2) The restriction on bringing in food is due solely to security concerns....nothing more. Just like with the prohibition on walking to the stadium.

Safety first lads!! I mean, you never know when some terrorist might bring in an exploding sub sandwich. The potential for carnage is unthinkable....mayo and luchmeat scattered all over the place. I'm sure you understand.

--D.S.

[inPORTISweTRUST]

I like fed-ex i went to the vikings game last year and me and a few othe random redskins heros made some vikings fans leave they kept saying " gimme an f'n break the call was bullsh$#" after every penalty or good play the redskins made so when the HEY!! song came on every was goin duh na na na nah hey YOU SUCk! so the vikings fans left it was awesome fed-ex has a lot of comradery among fans

[Monkart]

What do they mean by "Sense of History"
How can Raymond James have a 7 for sence of History, It's also only a couple years old, that belongs to a team only 30 years old. But Soldier field only gets a three for one of the oldest Stadiums and teams. :whoknows: :whoknows: :insane:

[RedskinsMarchingBand]

Well the redskins stadium was funded privately v.s. lots of these other stadiums that were not, M&T bank is a lot newer, and holds a lot less seats. Fed ex will rock once we start to win.

[SkinsForLife260]

Okay.

Meanwhile thousands of people still buy tickets and even more 10 of thousands are waiting.

Goskins is excatly right all we have to do is win more games. STOP BUYING FOOD IN THE STADIUM! Just tailgate. If you are lucky like me then just metro to the game, or come to think of it park in a nice area next to the highway and metro from there?

About the minitron thats actually a question i asked to Snyder.

Basically if you dont like the experince save alot of money and sit at home. If you go then cheer your ass of and stop wineing... dam.

And of course i agree with all these complaints but thats life. Of course i wish fedex was in dc but what can we do about it now.

Watch some highlights of the eagles or ravens sunday night game and look at the stadium. I think its preety dam nice.

[SkinsForLife260]

How can you say this place isnt loud or nice.

http://extremeskins.com/CrazyZeb/Week14vsPHI01_BettsKOreturn.mpg


http://extremeskins.com/CrazyZeb/Week14vsPHI02_2PortisTDs.mpg
Look at the stands its PACKED!

[LoGiK]

Nice video.

[[[ghost]]]

of course... were the skins... we suck so bad even our stadium sucks! and the hotdogs! talk about raw...

[dg28daman]

Am I the only person that actually likes Fedex feild alot? I've been to Giants Stadium and M&T Bank and I thought that the Fedex experience was MUCH better than those parks.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

I've seen people be hushed for cheering when defensive players are asking for crowd noise....that kind of crap would get you stabbed in most countries.

:laugh: Sounds like some cats at FedEx need some stabbin'.

[HOF44]

I will give fedex its props on the bratwurst, they are damn good!

I can't wait till Danny gets to build his stadium, I bet it will be awesome. You have to admit the one thing you can't say about him since buying the skins is he won't put the big bucks back into the team.

I had read somewhere that he would like to build a new stadium in about 10 years. I have no reference for this so consider it "rumor". If he ever gets to build one it will be the Taj Mahal of NFL stadiums.


HOF44
Bob

[mhd24]

I did a paper in college on Fedex field. The reason why its so big and has so much concrete is that Jack Kent Cooke wanted it that way. He preferred that type of stadium, Moreover, JKC did privatly build the stadium with the skins taking no money from the public (with the exception being forced to take a mandatory 70 million from the state of Maryland for the transportation (road, parking, etc) costs). If you want to blame anyone for the parking at Fedex, blame the state. They were the ones in charge of that.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

I agree with you dg28daman, I've been to M&T Bank and it doesn't even compare to Fedex.

[Craig]

Yes - Fed Ex sucks that bad.

[RabidFan]

And if they show that stupid commercial with the coach getting hit in the nuts by the little kid football player and a helicopter comes to help him, I'm going to take a hostage.


Thankfully I haven't seen that...sounds horrid

[evucci]

I've been to several NFL stadiums and FedEx is the worst. I think the number one thing I agree with here is the lack of "OUR HOUSE" feel. All the commercials, advertising, etc... it just sucks. Man- I wish we could play at RFK with those stands bouncing, the crowd right on top of the players, and the noise. Oh well, FedEx is what it is- a huge stadium to make lots of money for the Skins. Maybe our views will change when they start winning.

[roqnap1]

Okay...I need a little schooling here... Yes, the "tiny-tron" is small, but I do believe there was some sort of upgrade in it from last year. Not in size, but in picture quality. Or am I crazy?

[Dallsux]

And if they show that stupid commercial with the coach getting hit in the nuts by the little kid football player and a helicopter comes to help him, I'm going to take a hostage.



:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[txkid]

The Ravens fake turf is nice. Well most of the fake fields are now. Worst grass fields are SF and PIT.

[Skinsfan1311]

And if they show that stupid commercial with the coach getting hit in the nuts by the little kid football player and a helicopter comes to help him, I'm going to take a hostage.
Oh God....I forgot about that one....that's pretty bad.....

[Skinsfan1311]

I'm in the minority here...I love FedEx field! My only issue is with the mini-tron..I don't care about the food, as I tailgate...traffic is never an issue with me, I park in one of the Blue lots and I'm outta there in 15 minutes, tops. (that's because I go home on 202, not 95) I went to the scrimmage, at Mullet & Trailer and, truthfully, the place made me feel claustrophobic. Their jumbotron, however, is the best. Don't let anyone fool you about parking, or the loot-rail...parking is a nightmare on gameday, and the loot-rail flat out sucks....packed trains, some so full, that they skip stations altogether, and they take forever....also, you can't take camera-bags into M&T, but you can take purses,(???), which really pissed off Mrs Skinsfan...we both agreed, that M&T gameday experience blows and couldn't wait to get back into the cavernous confines of FedEx...like previous posters stated...winning will change a lot!

[AJ_Skins]

Having been to games at FedEx three times, I can unequivocally say that there is no way in which being there is better than watching the game on TV. What else needs to be said?

I don't think we'll ever get an honest answer on this point, but my sense is that a huge number of the old season ticket holders from RFK, the ones who had tickets passed down in the family for decades and so forth, bailed out during the time period between Gibbs I and Gibbs II, some after the stadium change was made, and the rest after Snyder's M.O. became apparent. I don't know who holds the tickets now, but I strongly suspect that a large number of season tickets are owned directly by ticket brokers, not individual fans as they claim. The rest are owned by companies who hand tickets out as perks. And when you go to the stadium and see packs of teenagers/twenty-somethings who look like they just got off an episode of COPS rolling in with no adults, you know something is going on that we're not being told about, because there's no way they can afford those seats if the whole stadium is sold out as season tickets...which is what Snyder claims.

Personally, I almost think he's handing out free tickets in opposing teams' cities to fill empty seats that are NOT sold out to season ticket holders. I have no way of proving it, but that's the only thing that would explain the crowds at FedEx...because Snyder has definitely managed to somehow pack the stadium with people without a large number of those people being fans of the team in any way, shape or form.

This is all speculation, but all I can say is the two times I've been since Snyder bought the team, I got the distinct impression that the majority of people in that stadium had shown up for the sole purpose of getting drunk and booing the Redskins, with those of who were serious, dedicated fans dispersed among them in tiny pockets.

[GoSkins561]

make this stadium easily metro accessible is still something I ponder often. Then there is the team itself. The players and coaches have taken a chapter out of the Patriots playbook by just running out on to the field and not doing introductions. I haven't heard the PA announcer announce Joe Gibbs and have him run out of the tunnel since he returned to coaching. All of you who say that he doesn't want put the attention on himself and individuals can shove it. I want to build that fever pitch by hearing Sean Taylor's name, Lavar Arrington's name, Chris Cooley's name and by God Joe Freakin Gibb's name so I can loose my S*** and go nuts with 90k other fans in the stands. I live and die by the team but the fan experience at Fed Ex is a 2 on a scale of 10.

I think if they announced the players fans would actually be in the stadium in time to see the players anounced. Ill bring up the Ravens and The Ray Lewis introduction, If any one here has experianced it they will know what I am talking about. All I can say is M&T Bank Stadium goes freaking ape doo doo and is extremally extremally loud. I think your right, they need to do something before the game to get the fans jacked up, because what they are doing now isnt working.

[Rocky21]

there could be more Redskins history throughout the stadium, that's fa sho

But that would take away valuable ad space.

I refer you back to the "2" for Game Day Experience. The game day experience at the stadium, not his playing virtual GM, has been my biggest gripe about the Snyder era.

To name a few: Snyder sold the naming rights of the stadium for $$$, the loud commercials during TV timeouts, high concession prices including $7 beers, no food allowed in the stadium, no cheaper food allowed to be sold by vendors on the grounds, second highest ticket prices in the entire league, price and availability of parking, congestion in and around the stadium, the huge chain link fence erected to restrict access to the stadium, not allowing foot traffic into the stadium, putting dream seats right in front of most loyal long tenured fans of the team to make mo' money, the dangerous non-working escalators, NFL Experience for kids taken out for more revenue producing corporate hospitality tents, removal of the standing room only areas near the end zone bars for more revenue producing seats, allowing people to move up the season ticket waiting list ahead of others by buying into things like the Tailgate Club for $1500, etc.

Hey, don't get me wrong I'm a big Skins fan. Not a big Snyder fan however.

[hail2skins]

Having the whole team run out together is probably Gibbs' preference and I have no problem with it. Before he returned last year they did player intros and it still didn't make a difference. People just don't seem to care enough to get to their seats on time. You would think that the regulars who go all the time would know enough how long it takes to get to the stadium, get a parking spot, and then move through the security lines to enter the stadiums. I think unfortunately you have too many people who just get tickets foir games from time to time and treat the experience a little too casually. These are the same people who get up and walk in front of you during a play.......how clueless can you be?

For the people who do get in the stadium early, I would recommend playing a little more rockin music in the hour or so before the game to help get the fans who are there fired up.

[galentjm]

Having been to games at FedEx three times, I can unequivocally say that there is no way in which being there is better than watching the game on TV. What else needs to be said?

I don't think we'll ever get an honest answer on this point, but my sense is that a huge number of the old season ticket holders from RFK, the ones who had tickets passed down in the family for decades and so forth, bailed out during the time period between Gibbs I and Gibbs II, some after the stadium change was made, and the rest after Snyder's M.O. became apparent. I don't know who holds the tickets now, but I strongly suspect that a large number of season tickets are owned directly by ticket brokers, not individual fans as they claim. The rest are owned by companies who hand tickets out as perks. And when you go to the stadium and see packs of teenagers/twenty-somethings who look like they just got off an episode of COPS rolling in with no adults, you know something is going on that we're not being told about, because there's no way they can afford those seats if the whole stadium is sold out as season tickets...which is what Snyder claims.

Personally, I think he's handing out free tickets in opposing teams' cities to fill empty seats that are NOT sold out to season ticket holders. I have no way of proving it, but that's the only thing that would explain the crowds at FedEx...because Snyder has definitely managed to somehow pack the stadium with people without a large number of those people being fans of the team in any way, shape or form.


This post is ridiculous on so many levels, oh where to begin......


Having been to games at FedEx three times, I can unequivocally say that there is no way in which being there is better than watching the game on TV.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion here, but watching the game live and feeling the electricity of the crowd during a win (yes they've been few and far between of late) is FAR better than sitting at home. I've been a season ticket holder for 3 years now and I HATE when we play on the road because I just don't enjoy the games as much.


And when you go to the stadium and see packs of teenagers/twenty-somethings who look like they just got off an episode of COPS rolling in with no adults, you know something is going on that we're not being told about, because there's no way they can afford those seats if the whole stadium is sold out as season tickets...which is what Snyder claims.

I'm 24, have a mortgage and am married with a child yet I manage to afford season tickets. And furthermore, I've sat in two different sections during the time I've had season tickets and I can tell you that in those two sections the average age of those around me was no where near twenty something.


Personally, I think he's handing out free tickets in opposing teams' cities to fill empty seats that are NOT sold out to season ticket holders. I have no way of proving it, but that's the only thing that would explain the crowds at FedEx...because Snyder has definitely managed to somehow pack the stadium with people without a large number of those people being fans of the team in any way, shape or form.

If you really think that Dan Synder is GIVING away tickets then you need to have your head examined. The Redskins have sold out EVERY home game since 1968, but don't take my word for it........ask the NFL. http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/7003544
The reason why Fedex is full of the opposing teams fans is twofold. First off, the DC metro area is a very transient place. A large percentage if its inhabitants hail from other areas in the U.S. Secondly, far too many "fans" sell their tickets on ebay. I used to sit behind one of the endzones and literally every game I sat next to a new person who bought the tickets on ebay. Thankfully the team has taken actions to prevent this.

[AJ_Skins]

I'm 24, have a mortgage and am married with a child yet I manage to afford season tickets. And furthermore, I've sat in two different sections during the time I've had season tickets and I can tell you that in those two sections the average age of those around me was no where near twenty something.

I'm not talking about married people with kids. I'm talking about packs of kids who look like they could be in high school.


If you really think that Dan Synder is GIVING away tickets then you need to have your head examined. The Redskins have sold out EVERY home game since 1968, but don't take my word for it........ask the NFL. http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/WAS/7003544
The reason why Fedex is full of the opposing teams fans is twofold. First off, the DC metro area is a very transient place. A large percentage if its inhabitants hail from other areas in the U.S. Secondly, far too many "fans" sell their tickets on ebay. I used to sit behind one of the endzones and literally every game I sat next to a new person who bought the tickets on ebay. Thankfully the team has taken actions to prevent this.

Giving away tickets is pretty unlikely, I'll admit. But the seats being owned directly by brokers is not as unlikely. Maybe Snyder really does try to keep them out, and they trick whatever system he has to spot them, or maybe he just calls them up and says "I've a bunch nobody wants, they're yours for the right price". I don't know. There's no question a big part of it is the constant losing, but it's pretty sad that the old crowds that were apparently pretty much static throughout the 70s and 80s, if not going back further, are gone forever.

[SkinsForLife260]

I also heard the rumor about a new stadium in 10 years. Imagine it across from the new baseball stadium and next to the new soccer stadium!


Imagine how the eagles fans felt about the vet.

[RAVENS_SUCK_HUN]

Okay...I need a little schooling here... Yes, the "tiny-tron" is small, but I do believe there was some sort of upgrade in it from last year. Not in size, but in picture quality. Or am I crazy?


I love you man, but your crrrrraaaaaaazzzzzyyyyy.

[roqnap1]

I love you man, but your crrrrraaaaaaazzzzzyyyyy.

I feel tired... :D

Eh...maybe I am crazy, but I'll check it out again tomorrow night.

[ttr77]

I always forget that Snyder didn't build FedEx, because the blueprint and location of the stadium certainly have his name written all over it.... eg. the largest stadium in the NFL so he can pack all of his customers, I mean fans into it.... a stadium in the middle of nowhere so fans have no option but to pay for parking.... but that stuff really isn't his fault.



jwebst1 has perfectly explained my feelings as i enter Fedex...in the eyes of Snyder, I am no longer a fan but a potential paying customer. Thanks jweb, I wasn't able to pinpoint it before.

Fedex does have a good energy level, which will likely increase once there is a winning team on the field, but the stadium to me is boring, expensive to visit, and a pain to get in and out of.

[ryerye05]

I agree with ratings. fedex being in pg county says enough haha.

[dreamshatterer]

Didn't everybody hear or herd how loud the stadium was against Tampa Bay at the hom opener? They said it was the loudes NFL stadium has ever been. Even louder than Arrowhead Stadium at KC (trust me, that place can get VERY loud) If the Skins start winning, we can really help the team by screaming our @$$ off when the D is on the field.

HTTR!!!

[Skins24]

I'm in the minority here...I love FedEx field!
I'm also in the minority, I'm not going to say I love it, but I really don't mind it, and I do believe some of these complaints are being way overblown.
Like the commercials. Don't like them? Don't look at them! I'm seriously not getting the gripe with the commercials. It's EXTREMELY easy to not pay attention to them.
I do agree however, that our "Jumbo"trons aren't very Jumbo.

There are more complaints than solutions being offered. Maintaining a stadium that size cost money. How would you raise that money?

[galentjm]

I'm also in the minority, I'm not going to say I love it, but I really don't mind it, and I do believe some of these complaints are being way overblown.
Like the commercials. Don't like them? Don't look at them! I'm seriously not getting the gripe with the commercials. It's EXTREMELY easy to not pay attention to them.


:cheers: Exactly!

[Skinsfan1311]

Having been to games at FedEx three times, I can unequivocally say that there is no way in which being there is better than watching the game on TV. What else needs to be said?
. Huh? Dude, it's football, not a night at the opera...most of the drunks are harmless...just people having a good time... No way is watching the game on TV is better...(though there is something to be said for being indoors when it's snowing/sleeting sideways). Yeah it sucks when they lose,but, oh man, when they win, there's electricity in the air and that great feeling that can't be had, sitting in front of a tube...sure, it's commercial, but what stadium isn't? The crass comercialism is the price we pay to keep these guys in million-dollar contracts.

So beers are $7.00, and the food is overpriced and sucks...that's what tailgating is for. The bottom line is are you there to watch football, or to eat?? I don't give a rat's a** if I have to sit on a milk-crate, as long as I have a view of the field; let the wine & cheese crowd worry about the amenities...give me a place to sit, and a pot to piss in, and I'm happy. Sure, there's a few things that could be better..but it's our house and we need to make the best of it. Watch how the complaints go down, as the win's pile up..... Try attending a few more games...you'll see.....

:helmet: :logo: :helmet: :logo: :cheers:

[Jman1119446]

You know the guy is a moron if he rates the architecture if Soldier Field a 1. I'm far from a bears fan, but I must admit that the new Soldier Field is one of the best looking stadiums in the league. :helmet:

[sith lord]

For an older stadium, Ralph Wilson Stadium is nice. Should of been rated higher. And I'm a Bill's hater.