View Full Version : Season opening shutout?
SkinsHokieFan
August-24th-2005, 11:26 PM
Barring our O giving up a score, I think the D will absolutley dominate the Bears in the season opener
The QB battle right now is between Kyle Orton and Chad Hutchinson. Cedric Benson is still holding out. Mushin Muhammed is in his first year in the Bears system, and I predict will be an FA bust.
Stack the box and stop Thomas Jones? Is that all that Gregg Williams needs to do to shutout the Bears?
ironmic
August-24th-2005, 11:51 PM
24-0 Skinz
Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin
August-24th-2005, 11:53 PM
I think, if Orton starts, they'll connect on a couple throws and I think the Skins D will need a couple games to get their feel. Muhammad can go up and grab balls. He may snag one that we don't expect him to.
I can see a one score game from the Bears. But I'm not comfortable predicting a shutout.
Kosher Ham
August-24th-2005, 11:53 PM
I dont think Muhsin will be a FA bust because of his talents; he may be labeled bust material because of some QBs that he may play with this season, but that isnt a fair assessment of his talents.
Probably would have shut them out last year if it wasnt for the 70 yds INT for a TD.
I am pretty sure the Redskins will have a solid showing this game.
Dallsux
August-25th-2005, 12:04 AM
73-0 Skins...all out revenge game! :D
:bearsuck:
PREDICTOR
August-25th-2005, 12:14 AM
Greg Williams has already discussed "attitude" being a part of a great defense. He also mentioned being feared. I believe he wants to be known as the defensive coach that has the greatest defense of all time. This guy is really serious and takes everything, even details in a serious manner.
No..it would not surprise me if the Skins shut out the Bears. The game is in Washington so the crowd noise should disrupt Hutchinson and the passing game. Benson will not play even if he gets into camp by next week. Muhammed is not a deep threat and they should have very little running game.
I would go as far as to say if the Redskins don't shut out the Bears then they can't shut out anybody. However, even if the Bears get 1 score...I think thats all they can get. We should dominate them even if they get a TD. And most important...I would expect a couple of turnovers since the Skins will unleach a bunch of new blitz packages on Chad Hutchinson in a Super Loud stadium. Jailbreak time!
Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin
August-25th-2005, 12:17 AM
Greg Williams has already discussed "attitude" being a part of a great defense. He also mentioned being feared. I believe he wants to be known as the defensive coach that has the greatest defense of all time. This guy is really serious and takes everything, even details in a serious manner.
No..it would not surprise me if the Skins shut out the Bears. The game is in Washington so the crowd noise should disrupt Hutchinson and the passing game. Benson will not play even if he gets into camp by next week. Muhammed is not a deep threat and they should have very little running game.
I would go as far as to say if the Redskins don't shut out the Bears then they can't shut out anybody. However, even if the Bears get 1 score...I think thats all they can get. We should dominate them even if they get a TD. And most important...I would expect a couple of turnovers since the Skins will unleach a bunch of new blitz packages on Chad Hutchinson in a Super Loud stadium. Jailbreak time!
Actually, Muhsin is the worst kind of deep threat to face. He's not going to kill you with speed and even if you roll coverage, he's good enough to go up and grab a wounded duck in double coverage.
I can easily see an early season miscue or bad luck play where he scores on an undethrown long ball.
It'd be much easier to play him if he were merely a 5-11 speedster.
ThornWithin
August-25th-2005, 12:20 AM
Don't underestimate Kyle Orton.
Also, Thomas Jones will do just fine. And Muhammad will be a player for the undertalented Bears.
I think you'll win the game, but you won't shut them out. 17-10 Skins. :cheers:
RedskinzOwnU
August-25th-2005, 12:28 AM
I was just reviewing our schedule, and, I really think we can start the season 3-0, but i expanded it a bit, and there's really no reason why this team can't start 7-0. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? But none of the first 7 teams we play are anything special, if our D stays more or less the same, and our offense exhibits a competent level of play, we can win every one of those games. We can only hope!
Kosher Ham
August-25th-2005, 12:33 AM
Thomas Jones against the Redskins D will have plenty of problems. The Redskins D has the speed to neutralize the potential effectiveness of Thomas Jones.
Kyle Orton underestimated...How? He is an unproven QB going against one of the best defenses in the NFL. Thats not underestimating him that is reality.
The Redskins held the mighty Julius Jones to 0 TDs, Around 60 yds, including a forced fumble (By Taylor) inside the 5.
Moose plays for contracts, he always has. This year he however has something to prove/live up to. Unfortunately for him he wont have a QB that can get the job done.
Maybe Jeff Blake will be the comeback player of the season. Who knows.
PREDICTOR
August-25th-2005, 12:47 AM
I was just reviewing our schedule, and, I really think we can start the season 3-0, but i expanded it a bit, and there's really no reason why this team can't start 7-0. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? But none of the first 7 teams we play are anything special, if our D stays more or less the same, and our offense exhibits a competent level of play, we can win every one of those games. We can only hope!
Welcome Bears fan. I appreciate the support of your team. However, all homers cannot accept truth when the truth is a negative.
The Redskins might have the best defense in the league this year...but at Home for the first game...for the beginning of Joe Gibbs 2nd season...with Greg Williams wanting to set some records on defense...they should at least be on fire. No I do not believe the Skins will shut out the Bears because special teams and mistakes happen and its just tough. Biut I really don't see more than 1 single TD....or 2 field goals, while the Skins will score more than 17 points.
Redskins 24
Bears 6
Kosher Ham
August-25th-2005, 12:52 AM
Welcome Bears fan. I appreciate the support of your team. However, all homers cannot accept truth when the truth is a negative.
May I ask what exactly makes you think he is a Bears Fan ?
ThornWithin
August-25th-2005, 12:55 AM
I just think it gets ridiculous around here how some people think that you've magically gone from 6-10 to playoff team. You haven't. There's a reason that the entire national media doesn't project you as being a playoff team. And no, its not a bias. It's because unless the Eagles fall apart, you won't win the East, and you probably won't even finish second in the East.
You'll beat the Bears, and this board will run rampant with playoff talk, because well, you'll start out "undefeated". I don't know if the Boys will bring you back down to earth, but you'll fall soon after the Bears game. I don't expect the Cowboys to make the playoffs this year, but I sure don't expect the skins to either. :laugh:
mcees4life
August-25th-2005, 12:57 AM
i'm wit the folks that think we gonna shut them out.........but we ought to shut out every other team this year as well. Why not shoot for the moon
Mooka
August-25th-2005, 12:57 AM
I was just reviewing our schedule, and, I really think we can start the season 3-0, but i expanded it a bit, and there's really no reason why this team can't start 7-0. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? But none of the first 7 teams we play are anything special, if our D stays more or less the same, and our offense exhibits a competent level of play, we can win every one of those games. We can only hope!
@Dallas, @Denver, @KC, @NY
You really think its possible to sweep these road games? Thats rediculous. Denver is like 12-4 at home in the last 2 seasons.
Lets start with a win week 1 and we'll go from there...
MCnDaHouse
August-25th-2005, 12:59 AM
I'm not looking for a shut-out, although it would be nice. We have a lot of injuries on defense, hopefully they will be healed and ready to go by opening day.
MC :eaglesuck
Mooka
August-25th-2005, 01:01 AM
I just think it gets ridiculous around here how some people think that you've magically gone from 6-10 to playoff team. You haven't. There's a reason that the entire national media doesn't project you as being a playoff team. And no, its not a bias. It's because unless the Eagles fall apart, you won't win the East, and you probably won't even finish second in the East.
You'll beat the Bears, and this board will run rampant with playoff talk, because well, you'll start out "undefeated". I don't know if the Boys will bring you back down to earth, but you'll fall soon after the Bears game. I don't expect the Cowboys to make the playoffs this year, but I sure don't expect the skins to either. :laugh:
did you see the records that made it to the playoffs last year? The Skins or Dallas could've easily been in the playoffs.
PREDICTOR
August-25th-2005, 01:08 AM
I just think it gets ridiculous around here how some people think that you've magically gone from 6-10 to playoff team. You haven't. There's a reason that the entire national media doesn't project you as being a playoff team. And no, its not a bias. It's because unless the Eagles fall apart, you won't win the East, and you probably won't even finish second in the East.
You'll beat the Bears, and this board will run rampant with playoff talk, because well, you'll start out "undefeated". I don't know if the Boys will bring you back down to earth, but you'll fall soon after the Bears game. I don't expect the Cowboys to make the playoffs this year, but I sure don't expect the skins to either. :laugh:
:dallasuck GAWD.......I HATE THE cOWBOYS! And I can't wait for week 2. I have already planned to take that whole day off work and I am using a personal day so I can be home that night. That might be the 2nd biggest night of my life. (My wife has the other one). :laugh:
:dallasuck
ThornWithin
August-25th-2005, 01:09 AM
And, for the sake of example:
Week One: Chicago - Win. It's the freaking bears.
Week Two: @Dallas - Loss. You've won one of the last 15, at Dallas, I don't think its homeristic to say you'll lose again.
Week Three: Bye - You don't lose this week! :silly:
Week Four: Seattle - Loss. Seattle always seems to start out of the gate strong, then struggle/stop trying late in the season. Too bad its early in the season.
Week Five: @ Denver - Loss. Denver doesn't lose at home, at least not frequently.
Week Six: @ Kansas City - Loss. KC's a pretty good team, and they made some nice additions on defense to boot.
Week Seven: San Francisco - Win. Even I'M not that cruel. :)
Week Eight: @ NY Giants - Win. I think the Giants aren't nearly as good as people think they are. You'll at least split with them.
Week Nine: Philadelphia - Loss. :)
Week Ten: @ Tampa Bay - Loss.
Week Eleven: Oakland - Loss. The real Moss in the NFL has fun.
Week Twelve: San Diego - Loss. The chargers roll on their way to the West crown.
Week Thirteen: @ St.Louis - Win. I think the Rams are completely hapless.
Week Fourteen: @ Arizona - Win. You pull off a second straight win, and everyone starts trying to figure out dream scenarios where the Skins make the playoffs.
Week Fifteen: Dallas - Loss. Discard said scenarios.
Week Sixteen: NY Giants - Win. Eli's out for the season with some elbow related injury at this point, Skins roll.
Week Seventeen: @ Philadelphia - Loss. The only way you'll win this game is if the Eagles have clinched home field going in, and decide to play all third stringers. :)
6-10, again. :cheers:
ThornWithin
August-25th-2005, 01:12 AM
did you see the records that made it to the playoffs last year? The Skins or Dallas could've easily been in the playoffs.
*Nod*, but when I say "Playoff team" I'm basically saying Playoff CALIBER. Like, a team that could make a wildcard appearance in the AFC.
Sure, the skins or boys could have slid into the NFC wildcard spots, however, they weren't even close to playoff caliber teams. :2cents:
illone
August-25th-2005, 01:14 AM
Don't underestimate Kyle Orton.
Also, Thomas Jones will do just fine. And Muhammad will be a player for the undertalented Bears.
I think you'll win the game, but you won't shut them out. 17-10 Skins. :cheers:
Kyle Orton?
Underestimated?
Are you serious?
Was it him choking midway through last season when the Purdue schedule got tougher, or the Sun bowl that makes you think he is underestimated?
:laugh:
ThornWithin
August-25th-2005, 01:15 AM
Kyle Orton?
Underestimated?
Are you serious?
Was it him choking midway through last season when the Purdue schedule got tougher, or the Sun bowl that makes you think he is underestimated?
:laugh:
Kyle Orton is a good quarterback. Better than anything Tulane has produced recently. :D
illone
August-25th-2005, 01:20 AM
Kyle Orton is a good quarterback. Better than anything Tulane has produced recently. :D
Your kidding, right?
JP Losman was WAY better than Orton in college, and will be in the pros.
Anything else?
illone
August-25th-2005, 01:24 AM
A shut out would be nice to open the season, but I figure they'll score 3.
27 - 3 skins.
NYFootballGIANTS
August-25th-2005, 01:52 AM
There will probably be a turnover by the Redskins offense that will give the Bears a short enough field to score on, however I think this is probably a win for the Redskins.
e16bball
August-25th-2005, 02:42 AM
Hmm...I too think Kyle Orton was underestimated---coming into the draft. He should have been higher than a 4th rounder. However, he is not being underestimated as an NFL QB. When this game begins, he will have seen exactly 0 snaps in a real NFL game (this of course assumes that he starts, which I find unlikely) and will be absolutely confounded by Gregg and the 'Skins defense. I fear that GW will probably throw a bit more complex scheme at ol' Kyle than some of the vanilla defenses he's had the luxury of facing thus far, and the #1 defense in the NFC will probably put up a slightly tougher fight than the Sisters of the Poor he's been shredding this preseason. Putting him out there would be tantamount to simply throwing him into a den of lions: You can get out alive, but only if you're amazingly special. And unless I've severely underestimated Orton (and I haven't), he's not quite what I'd call amazingly special. Additionally, I realize your Tulane comment was merely a jab at 'Skins fans, Thorny, but I fear it was dreadfully off-base. Many scouts would have viewed Losman as the consensus #1 pick in the draft this year, had he been thrown into the mix with Smith and Rodgers. Quarterbacks, I should add, viewed as worlds ahead of Kyle Orton.
Now on to the unfortunate topic of our schedule. I'm not big into predicting game results before I see the teams on the field, but it would take a miracle for us to go into Denver (Mile High) and KC (Arrowhead) and emerge with victories in consecutive weeks. Those are tough teams, and even tougher venues to play in. All the same, 6-10 is low-balling us. I say somewhere between 8-8 and 11-5. Probably 9-7, but who can say for sure? Not I...
SkinsFTW
August-25th-2005, 05:14 AM
I was just reviewing our schedule, and, I really think we can start the season 3-0, but i expanded it a bit, and there's really no reason why this team can't start 7-0. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? But none of the first 7 teams we play are anything special, if our D stays more or less the same, and our offense exhibits a competent level of play, we can win every one of those games. We can only hope!
This seasons schedule starts out a lot tougher than last years. I felt the same way last year and the truth is that we were close in all of the first 7 or 8 games even with Brunell starting. We should have beaten the Ravens, Browns, Giants and Cowboys at least but it didn't turn out that way.
budski
August-25th-2005, 05:31 AM
I can see a shut-out. Bears QB is going to be a little shaky.
barefoot
August-25th-2005, 06:15 AM
Don't underestimate Kyle Orton.
Also, Thomas Jones will do just fine. And Muhammad will be a player for the undertalented Bears.
I think you'll win the game, but you won't shut them out. 17-10 Skins. :cheers:
Don't underestimate Greg Williams :D
If we can score 21-24pts a game, we'll win more than we loose!!
Dead Money
August-25th-2005, 07:06 AM
:sucks:
Seriously? Is there any greater jinx in sports than predicting a shutout? :stfu:
DialSux
August-25th-2005, 07:10 AM
i predict a shutout w/ no injuries
TheGreek1973
August-25th-2005, 07:28 AM
I don't give a **** about a shutout. I just want to win the game and get our players out of it healthy. Then we have Dallas where I hope we play our best game and kill those MFs. :mad:
jwebst1
August-25th-2005, 07:29 AM
I don't give a **** about a shutout. I just want to win the game and get our players out of it healthy. Then we have Dallas where I hope we play our best game and kill those MFs. :mad:
Agreed, let's just get out of there with a win and no injuries. I don't care if it's 7-6, the Skins need to get off on the right foot this year... especially against an inferior Bears team, with QB issues, AT HOME!
airborneskins
August-25th-2005, 07:44 AM
16-3 Skins.. CP will run for 200+, but only 1 TD.. Hall has 3 FG's...
Defense will dominate as usual.. :bearsuck:
PREDICTOR
August-25th-2005, 10:14 AM
There will probably be a turnover by the Redskins offense that will give the Bears a short enough field to score on, however I think this is probably a win for the Redskins.
Well Mr. fan from N.Y. we can't argue with you there. We turned the ball over a lot last year and mostly at critical times. Fumbles for TD's and interceptions for TD's.
And if you watched our 3 turnovers last week we are still giving away games. Yes you could be right the Redskins charity could continue as we give them away.
But if that doesn't happen and the Redskins hold on to the ball, then the league will see some serious football coming out of Washington.
dfbovey
August-25th-2005, 10:19 AM
I think we'll definately snuff out their running game and cause a few turnovers... a shut out is possible but I think they'd at least get a few FGs.
G-Prime
August-25th-2005, 10:29 AM
Game Day Stats
Ramsey 22 of 22 for 572 yards 8 touchdowns
Portis 28 Carries for 278 yards and 4 touchdowns
Patton 12 catches 3 Touchdowns
Moss 7 Catches 3 Touchdowns
Cooley 3 Catches 2 Touchdowns.
DialSux
August-25th-2005, 10:32 AM
so that's like 482-0? dunno. maybe a little too optimistic. i don't think we can score more than 60 td's.
Drex
August-25th-2005, 10:34 AM
A win is all it takes for me to attain satisfaction from week 1.
G-Prime
August-25th-2005, 10:34 AM
No it's 84-0 silly..
Obviously you don't add up the receivers touchdowns, They go along with Ramsey's TD's.
Chachie
August-25th-2005, 10:36 AM
Greg Blache made some comments in the press about how he's not at all happy with our defenseive line right now. I believe it was meant to be motivational but I must admit I haven't been comfortable with the way they've looked so far. I hope it's just preseason jive, intended to get them psyched.
I say we'll beat Chicago, but we may not be up to snuff early, so we better get serious for week 2.... in Dallas.
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