Official extremeskins list of all the "experts" incorrect predictions?

[E-Dog Night]

I just don't have the patience to do it myself - I would but I have to finish some stuff up here at work, and the search function isn't up and running, so I can't look for the ones that were already posted on this board. But I was thinking that it would be a good idea to set aside a sticky thread or something of that nature with all the media "experts" predicting that the Redskins will finish last in the NFC east, that they won't even have a winning record, etc.

The reason behind this is to see what all the experts say when the Redskins make the playoffs this year. Who owns up to their mistake and who doesn't? There's bound to be dozens.

Off the top of my head: Street & Smith, TSN, SI's Peter King, CBS Sportsline, and of course everyone's favorite Lenny Pastabelly from ESPN...just to name a few, have all predecited the Skins to finish last in the NFC east - just like they all predicted the Chargers to finish last in 2004...and how they predicted the Ravens to finish ahead of the Steelers...and the Colts to win the Super Bowl...and the Seahawks would make it to the NFC championship game...

How about it guys? Bubba, you up for it?

Ok, I'll get it started, in no particular order:

411: "This team might take another step back this year." (Ryan Smith)
S&S: prediction: last in NFC east (don't have the mag to get a name)
TSN: prediction: last in NFC east (Dan Pompeii)
ESPN Sports Nation predicts O/U for wins: 6

[[[ghost]]]

ESPN



'nuff said

[E-Dog Night]

]']ESPN

'nuff said

???

[budski]

Gosh the list would be endless. I have yet to hear anyone pick them to do anything this year as far as the experts go.
Of course the players always have their say.

[illone]

Good idea. I have one thread bookmarked on my other comp, I can link it here later.

Sticky this for the season then we can all send hate mail when we make the playoffs:laugh:

[jbooma]

if you were these guys what would you honestly think, yes we as fans see something different, but untill the skins can show differently we are going to be taking very lightly

[PREDICTOR]

if you were these guys what would you honestly think, yes we as fans see something different, but untill the skins can show differently we are going to be taking very lightly

I agree. These experts don't have the insight and incredible foresight that we do. But seriously, some of these guys are "fans" as well...just not fans of the Redskins. Everybody had a favorite team growing up and they are going to be influenced by that. Ron Jaworski always favors the Eagles and Michael Irvin always favors the Cowboys. However, Troy Aikmen seems to be one ex player who is able to be impartial and view the Skins differently than most analysts and different than all ex Cowboys players.

But getting back to the topic....we all have a different pair of rose coloured glasses on.

[bulldog]

Clayton is a Cowboys homer. Pasquarelli is a Steelers homer. Pompeii is a front-runner for the Patriots and Eagles (insert 2005 winner for 2006 predictions). Zimmerman is part of Raider Nation.

[jbooma]

Clayton is a Cowboys homer. Pasquarelli is a Steelers homer. Zimmerman is part of Raider Nation.

That explains everything, he is still mad over Jay :laugh: :laugh:

[arkowi]

Basically anything more than 5 wins and we will outperform the entire expectations of any media outlet in the known universe.

[illone]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111481

[The Bounty Hunter #21]

Its gonna be great if the skins make the playoffs this year and make all of those losers look like fools

[barefoot]

Its gonna be great if the skins make the playoffs this year and make all of those losers look like fools


They already look like fools ;)

[illone]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111535

[carter23]

technically we don't know if their predictions are 'incorrect'... i expect them to be wrong, and they better be wrong, but we don't know for certain

[Spaceman Spiff]

Even though E-dog is a raving liberal, i gotta say he posts some money threads in the stadium ;) props given dude, this will be an excellent thread! :cheers:

[APBT]

I wonder what would happen if we forwarded a million copies to each critic is a nano second? :evil:

[Heavy Jumbo]

I'll have to pull out some of my preview mags as soon as I get home.

I'll post them soon.

[GPREP HOG]

In the NFL nearly every team can make the claim of having a chance at becoming if not great at least pretty good/competitive....maybe all the experts are predicting us to go no where....but what the experts say means jack S***....the steelers last year were predicted by few to be make the playoffs, a majority saw them as a team that would struggle to reach 500.....they went 15-1....honestly if we end up making the playoffs, even win the division that would not be nearly as big a shocker as what the Steelers were able to do.....the experts put their foot in their mouth every year on many teams, what the 'experts' say is not really a reliable prediction more so an educated guess due to the parity in the NFL....I am not looking forward to having the experts put their foot in their mouth rather I just want to see the skins win and enjoy every single momment!!! I posted this a couple weeks ago thought this might also apply:

You will find this in the MLB/NBA for instance through out the regular season but when you get down to the playoffs team chemistry/momentum and the collective will is not as formidable an opponent over a five or seven game stretch in two or three consecutive series. However in the NFL team chemistry is probably the most necessary element needed to succeed, with it you have a good chance to win or at least put up a fight every game. Without it your season is doomed, no chance what so ever. In the NFL momentum and homefield advantage is ten times more of a bigger element to succeed compared to the NBA/MLB. You do well in the regular season you still are going to have to win on your opponents home field/areana....however in the NFL homefield is everything.....

Because of the parity in the NFL teams have a chance in every game they play=possible winning streak=winning makes players/coaches happy they build comrodery=become even stronger through chemistry=season only being 16 games you get a decent lead in your division you are hard to bring down=you get homefield advantage which is key for playoff success

Lets be perfectly honest on paper there is not that much difference between the Patriots and the rest of the league, talent wise.....but they have been able to take their abilities as a cohesive unit and play as a unit.......people go about saying well the Patriots disprove the theory that a dynasty can not occur in todays NFL, I would say that what the NFL has done is stopped there being a seperation between the top and bottom market teams, stopped big market teams from buying up players over and over again while small market teams selling their fans short.......the Patriots are not like the Yankees who just constantly buy new players, the Patriots are proof that money does not come from success, sucess in whatever you do is still persistance/perserverence....


PERSISTENCE

"Nothing in the world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful men with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan 'Press On' has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race."

1932 Calvin Coolidge

http://www.calvin-coolidge.org/page...ns/quotesp.html


What I am trying to say is that with the NFL if someone says I know this team has no chance or this team can not be beat.....they really do not know what they are talking about....teams have their advantages going into this season do not get me wrong.......but every team in the league, as the cliche goes, is starting tied for first.....

[China]

Here's another:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111710

And USA today predicting 6-10:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111808

[sumodat]

Its gonna be great if the skins make the playoffs this year and make all of those losers look like fools

It would not make them look like fools. If we make the playoffs this season, we will have come out of nowhere. Nobody looked a fool last season when the Chargers broke out. It was just unexpected.

Everyone needs to stop taking this stuff so personal. Until we start showing something, nobody is going to pick us to do anything.

Besides, those "analysts" are just like weather men, they all say the same thing with very minor variations. Sometimes a weather man says it's gonna be a clear day and the next thing you know, we have 2 feet of snow.

The point is, they really have no idea what they are talking about. It is just that we seem to listen even though they have a 50% chance of being right or wrong. Who cares what they predict for us. 9 times out of ten, it is going to be incorrect.

[illone]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111842

[Califan007]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111863

[bubba9497]

seriously it would be easier to post 8-8 or better predictions



:doh: I forgot there isn't ANY!

[Heavy Jumbo]

Athlon Sports Mag prediction: 3rd in East

"The offense should be better with Jansen returning to the line, but the team did little to address its lack of playmakers on the perimeter....the defense should again be among one the league's best under Gregg Williams. But there are too many deficiencies on offense to challenge for a playoff spot."

[Heavy Jumbo]

From Street & Smith's:

"The rude awakening that greeted the return of Joe Gibbs to the Redskins in his first-ever losing season had the Hall-of-Fame coach looking like a deer in the headlights of one of his racecars."

Final grade: 72

[Heavy Jumbo]

TSN: 5-11- last place East

[jrfriedm]

The funny thing is by week 6 all the "experts" are going to be saying how they knew that we would be unstoppable this season

[TheSkipper]

From Street & Smith's:

"The rude awakening that greeted the return of Joe Gibbs to the Redskins in his first-ever losing season had the Hall-of-Fame coach looking like a deer in the headlights of one of his racecars."

Final grade: 72

NASCAR's cars don't have headlights. Another example of poor research.

[Beaudry]

Dont' we have to wait to play the season before we can call these predictions incorrect? I see a lot of people here say that Ramsey is going to make the Pro Bowl. Can we add those to the list?

[Heavy Jumbo]

NASCAR's cars don't have headlights. Another example of poor research.

Another thing, I believe Gibbs had a 7-9 season after the '87 Super Bowl. so this would be his 2nd losing record, not first.

[illone]

Dont' we have to wait to play the season before we can call these predictions incorrect? I see a lot of people here say that Ramsey is going to make the Pro Bowl. Can we add those to the list?


Might as well, but I think the mega merged Ramsey thread will be around when the season is over so those who were right will be able to gloat.

Anyways, here's another one:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1584036#post1584036

[SkinsFanMania]

Basically anything more than 5 wins and we will outperform the entire expectations of any media outlet in the known universe.

We will have atleast 5 wins by mid season.

[Heavy Jumbo]

Another one from SI

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112296

[Heavy Jumbo]

ESPN predictions:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112285

[illone]

Dr Z predicting the Bears will beat us:laugh:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112572

[forbeskin]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/4842248

Five teams that'll be just awful
5. Redskins — The NFL Joe Gibbs returned to last season is very different from the NFL he left after the 1992 season. Safety Sean Taylor couldn't stay out of trouble and linebacker Lavar Arrington can't stay healthy. Those two are Washington's best players. Elsewhere, Redskins fans long for a day when starting quarterback Patrick Ramsey is carrying a clipboard.

We long for a day when Ramsey is holding the clipboard? Ok, buddy!

[illone]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1650482&posted=1#post1650482

[riggins44]

Last week, all the ESPN experts picked Dallas...including Theisman.

[PotomaSkinsFan]

well, let's not go nuts. these guys aren't wrong yet. we've got 14 games and 15 weeks and a tough schedule. We gotta do a lot more offensively than we did monday night if we want to keep winning.


:dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck

[skinsman4u]

I just don't have the patience to do it myself - I would but I have to finish some stuff up here at work, and the search function isn't up and running, so I can't look for the ones that were already posted on this board. But I was thinking that it would be a good idea to set aside a sticky thread or something of that nature with all the media "experts" predicting that the Redskins will finish last in the NFC east, that they won't even have a winning record, etc.

The reason behind this is to see what all the experts say when the Redskins make the playoffs this year. Who owns up to their mistake and who doesn't? There's bound to be dozens.

Off the top of my head: Street & Smith, TSN, SI's Peter King, CBS Sportsline, and of course everyone's favorite Lenny Pastabelly from ESPN...just to name a few, have all predecited the Skins to finish last in the NFC east - just like they all predicted the Chargers to finish last in 2004...and how they predicted the Ravens to finish ahead of the Steelers...and the Colts to win the Super Bowl...and the Seahawks would make it to the NFC championship game...

How about it guys? Bubba, you up for it?

Ok, I'll get it started, in no particular order:

411: "This team might take another step back this year." (Ryan Smith)
S&S: prediction: last in NFC east (don't have the mag to get a name)
TSN: prediction: last in NFC east (Dan Pompeii)
ESPN Sports Nation predicts O/U for wins: 6


You got that right they should have listened to me when Larry Micahel asked me how I thought the Skins would do this season and I replied"13-3" and we'll be 7-0 by the time Philly comes to town and 8-0 ,of course, after they leave. Blow the feathers off the Seahawks! :notworthy

[illone]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/bill_syken/09/22/scorecard.daily/index.html

[ross3909]

It would not make them look like fools. If we make the playoffs this season, we will have come out of nowhere. Nobody looked a fool last season when the Chargers broke out. It was just unexpected.

Everyone needs to stop taking this stuff so personal. Until we start showing something, nobody is going to pick us to do anything.

Besides, those "analysts" are just like weather men, they all say the same thing with very minor variations. Sometimes a weather man says it's gonna be a clear day and the next thing you know, we have 2 feet of snow.

The point is, they really have no idea what they are talking about. It is just that we seem to listen even though they have a 50% chance of being right or wrong. Who cares what they predict for us. 9 times out of ten, it is going to be incorrect.

I understand what you are saying and if the analists were saying that the skins would only not make the playoffs this year or it would be hard for them to make that playoffs, that would be an opinion. However, these "experts" follow up a guess that we will go 4-12 (SI) with a rant bashing our team and only mentioning the negatives and nothing about the improvements we have made. This kind of "reporting" is false and needs to be called out when they are shown for the hacks that they are. These people dont do any research, or visit any camps. All they do is back their favorits (usually just the winners from the previous year) and blindly bash the others. I say unload on them and maybe they will put a little more thought into their work next year...who am I kidding.

:2cents:

[Heavy Jumbo]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112487&highlight=Theismann+follow+car

That may not be considered an incorrect prediction, but a good one to list anyway.

[SittingBull]

http://fdethygf.ytmnd.com/ :applause:

This was ESPN's picks before the monday night game. Even Theissman gave up hope on us.

[ThatGuy]

Now that's funny!

[Henry]

Guys, we're 2-0. We haven't proven anyone wrong yet. Remember 2003?

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[Heavy Jumbo]

Guys, we're 2-0. We haven't proven anyone wrong yet. Remember 2003?

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

We've still got to list them for when we DO prove them wrong. :D

[ThatGuy]

http://fdethygf.ytmnd.com/ :applause:

This was ESPN's picks before the monday night game. Even Theissman gave up hope on us.

I was talking about this being funny, you need to use IE and have sound for it to fully work.

[cowboylifer]

why are you arguing after 2 games into the season what others have predicted for the end of season? lets see??you barely beat chicago. now theres a powerhouse. and you in desperation threw 2 bombs into double coverage in last minutes to overcome dallas. who incidentally was predicted to finish just above you in the nfc rankings. so far id say rankings are pretty much on schedule.

[illone]

why are you arguing after 2 games into the season what others have predicted for the end of season? lets see??you barely beat chicago. now theres a powerhouse. and you in desperation threw 2 bombs into double coverage in last minutes to overcome dallas. who incidentally was predicted to finish just above you in the nfc rankings. so far id say rankings are pretty much on schedule.


Scoreboard.

:laugh:

[Skins24]

Guys, we're 2-0. We haven't proven anyone wrong yet. Remember 2003?

Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
You're right but in 2003 we didn't have a pro bowl running back, a O line that was well coached, a Hall of Fame head coach, nor a defense to keep us in games.

[Heavy Jumbo]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=118943

[Cool Hand Loki]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/quickie

Unbeatens Watch
TB at NYJ: Vinny won't help
WAS at DEN: Skins 4-0? No way

[mrhogg]

Gosh the list would be endless. I have yet to hear anyone pick them to do anything this year as far as the experts go.
Of course the players always have their say.

Theisman picked us to go to the superbowl... :laugh:

[E-Dog Night]

One down... (I guess the Giants aren't finishing 5-11 either)


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/preview/2005/scout.report/

NFC East Projected
1 Eagles 10-6
2 Cowboys 10-6
3 Giants 5-11
4 Redskins 4-12

[skinsdude]

if you were these guys what would you honestly think, yes we as fans see something different, but untill the skins can show differently we are going to be taking very lightly

I agree, but only partially. A little bit of research on their part would help make their predicictions a little more realistic. That being said, the guys who had us picked at 2-14 or 3-13 are just stupid and no amount of research would have helped them. They just spout the same negative information that they hear elsewhere.

[Skins24]

but untill the skins can show differently we are going to be taking very lightly
Taking a Joe Gibbs coached team lightly just isn't smart...


We will have atleast 5 wins by mid season.
:cheers:

[Tulane Skins Fan]

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/quickie

Unbeatens Watch
TB at NYJ: Vinny won't help
WAS at DEN: Skins 4-0? No way


didn't we lost to denver? doesnt that make that prediction correct?

[Heavy Jumbo]

The playoffs feel so good!

[Heavy Jumbo]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writers/bill_syken/09/22/scorecard.daily/index.html

Anybody have this guys email?

Time to go to Mickie D's. :)

[Heavy Jumbo]

20 minutes and already pushed to the bottom of the first page.

I think this deserves another bump.

[E-Dog Night]

My favorite: Jason Whitlock stating "The Redskins and the Cowboys are frauds" in October. Well, he was half right!

[China]

Anybody have this guys email?

Time to go to Mickie D's. :)

I think Om has taken care of this one. Check this thread:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116537&page=5&pp=15&highlight=McDonald%27s

It's too bad that things get pushed off the front page so fast. I made a post in a thread less than 24 hours ago and it's alread on page 8. :doh:

[E-Dog Night]

I think Om has taken care of this one. Check this thread:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116537&page=5&pp=15&highlight=McDonald%27s

It's too bad that things get pushed off the front page so fast. I made a post in a thread less than 24 hours ago and it's alread on page 8. :doh:

Wow, this guy was wrong about almost everything. But since we won three more games than seven, does he have to eat 3 value meals? Shame no one can find an email address for this bozo.

[WilberMarshall]

http://www.augk18.dsl.pipex.com/Smileys/bump.gif

[Heavy Jumbo]

http://www.augk18.dsl.pipex.com/Smileys/bump.gif again. :)

[cjcdaman]

???


If you don't know, you better ask somebody. ESPN has been hatin' on us all year.

[s0crates]

S&S: prediction: last in NFC east (don't have the mag to get a name)
Don't know if anybody pointed this out yet, but S&S actually has us 3rd in the NFC East, behind Dallas at #1 and NY at #2, which is still a poopy prediction. Oh, and the author is Don Pierson of the Chicago Tribune.

He predicted the Cowboy's to win because of the addition of Owens.:doh: He did say this though, which I think is right on:

No other division has such top-to-bottom balance, so one or two players, one or two injuries, one or two plays can make the difference. From first to worst is such a short slide in the NFC East that nobody should be surprised to finish in either spot.
Other noteworthy aspects of this year's S&S:

-They have CP as the 5th ranked fantasy player, pointing out that his per game rushing average is second all-time (among players with 50+ games) behind only Jim Brown and Emmitt Smith.

-In a section where they had a computer compare present-day teams to teams of the past and project their futures, they said the 2005 Redskins are like the 1978 Eagles (a team that preceded a boom period in Philly going 11-5, 12-4, and 10-6 in subsequent years) and the 1993 Packers (who would go 57-23 over the next 5 seasons). The same computer gives us a 58% chance of making the playoffs, the highest percent chance in the division. Apparently, Don Pierson didn't read this article before making his prediction.:silly:

[s0crates]

LMAO. Just realized this is an OLD ASS THREAD. That's what I get for doing a search before posting.