Brunell? What the f is wrong with you people.

[pilotperk]

I'm new to the site but certainly not a new skins fan having been one my entire life. Everytime I have glanced at this site I see these stupid Brunell or Ramsey post. Maybe you guys have just become skins fans last week and did not watch a single skins game last year. It just blows my mind to read a so called skins fan post that they want Brunell on the field. I can honestly say his performance IMO last year week after week was the worst QB performance in Redskin history or at least the last 30 years. It made me sick to try to even watch. How anyone can be so critical of Ramsey is equally mind blowing. Poor guy has not even been wanted since the day he was drafted. Yet has been a MAN about not starting and being treated like **** by the Redskin organization. He is just gonna get pushed out and become the next Trent Green. How about a little respect for the man he has put up with this crap and still trys to go out and perform in almost impossible circumstances. How about some respect for the punishment he took while Spurrier was here getting him killed every play only to get up like a freaking steal robot everytime. Please someone tell me why you would want Brunell leading our team geez root for Campbell to play if you hate ramsey so much but come on lets get REAL Mark Brunell had nearly a whole season to ruin and prove he no longer has what it takes to lead any team to the playoffs and certainly not the superbowl.

[B.A.M.F.]

Here we go again...

Read the other 50 threads about this and you'll see both sides, I think most of us have agreed that Ramsey is our best option at the moment and are willing to give him a chance.

[skins1972]

Man take a cold shower and calm down.. MB was injured last year, it was obvious, and he is still a Redskin and maybe you need to become a better fan and rally behind both our QB's… Cause if PR goes down, MB is our only hope to make it to the play offs this year!! Have you seen the pre season games?? Have you seen how sharp MB has been? After all he was one of the most accurate passers in this league and you just don’t wake up one morning and SUCK… I understand you may hate MB, but next time take a deep breath than venting over our QB situation. I like what I see out of both of them and I am confident we will make a strong run at the play offs this year.

[pilotperk]

Here we go again...

Read the other 50 threads about this and you'll see both sides, I think most of us have agreed that Ramsey is our best option at the moment and are willing to give him a chance.

Since you cant read I will say it again .... I see that patrick or mark crap everytime I come to this site. Just saying it should not even be a topic IMO

[ntotoro]

Since you cant read I will say it again .... I see that patrick or mark crap everytime I come to this site. Just saying it should not even be a topic IMO

Then why add to the discussion with another thread... ?

[Devman91]

Put in the rook....

[Arsenic]

Since you cant read I will say it again .... I see that patrick or mark crap everytime I come to this site. Just saying it should not even be a topic IMO

Congratulations, you just added another Ramsey/Brunell thread to the board. :rolleyes:

[Monte51Coleman]

Since you cant read I will say it again .... I see that patrick or mark crap everytime I come to this site. Just saying it should not even be a topic IMO

Welcome to Extremeskins. We take pride in not attacking other posters personally. The "since you can't read" response was uncalled for. First impressions go a long way around here. You might want to review the sites rules and regulations so that you can fully enjoy yourself here.

http://extremeskins.com/forums/announcement.php?f=24

[B.A.M.F.]

Since you cant read I will say it again .... I see that patrick or mark crap everytime I come to this site. Just saying it should not even be a topic IMO

But you state that you don't know what people are thinking wanting MB back in, and while I agree with you, if you had actually read the threads you would understand their viewpoint even if you don't agree.

[pilotperk]

Have you seen the pre season games?? Have you seen how sharp MB has been? .

LOL actually yeah I have seen a play or two... Looks like a replica of last years pre season, almost exact same thing we all saw last year. Mr sharp Brunell throwing a 2 yard pass. He ruined our season last year, it was a discrace, and if he does have to come back in I will be the first to hope and pray he can at least come in and not lose the game for us. We were behind in almost every game last year, and he could not smell a 100yd passing game. Geez a defense pratically gives that to you when leading by 2 or more scores.

[LoGiK]

Read my sig :)

[Dead Money]

Another thread I read one line on... :laugh:

[pilotperk]

Welcome to Extremeskins. We take pride in not attacking other posters personally. The "since you can't read" response was uncalled for. First impressions go a long way around here.


Ok should have maybe worded that a little different. Sorry to whom ever that was if it was taken in a bad way. However, I did not plan to come to this site to impress anyone. I just like to read redskin news since I dont get much of it written down here in Fla. Im not here to impress anyone. If you see something I have written but have had a bad first impression dont read it, although I dont plan to post very much anyhow. Look im just tired of losing and feel strongly that last year if not any other we should have at least made the playoffs and would have had not MB started so many games. We were in games that could have and should have been won had it not been for very very poor QB play. Im not starting a post to ask who should start for the hundredth time. I already know that question. I guess it would just be nice to see a little respect and support for our leader for once in his redskin career

[dfbovey]

For someone who doesn't like to read all the Ramsey vs. Brunell threads... you sure contradicted yourself by making another one.

[Fred Jones]

Brunell has played himself into the backup QB role. If Ramsey misses some plays for whatever reason, Brunell will step in and run the offense. Brunell, however, will not replace Ramsey. Luckily, the season is almost here and we finally can see how well Ramsey plays for real. I am waiting for the Dallas game because we should beat Chicago at home.

[halter91]

just a few quick things that have been mention, some have not


1. MB was hurt last year. It's very hard to be a quality QB being injured.
2. O line was in shambles and now it's back and it's healthy. Samuels has been looking like a man possed and Jansen is a monster. Not to mention the free agent Center we got.
3. Portis, Gibbs has tweaked the offense and make it more practical for Portis and his speed, not too mention it was his 1st year.

Have faith in both Qb's. They can both play the game and so can the # 3 Qb. When he's ready, he will be the man. Until then # 11 is our man.

HTTR! :point2sky

[Fred Jones]

Have faith in both Qb's. They can both play the game and so can the # 3 Qb. When he's ready, he will be the man. Until then # 11 is our man.

HTTR! :point2sky

Had to go there didn't you. Just couldn't leave it alone with your opening comments. Had to throw Campbell in there. Just couldn't leave this discussion between Brunell and Ramsey.

[TheDane]

It amazes me that despite all of the facts to the contrary, people still blame Brunell for all of the offense's struggles last year. What facts do I refer to?

1. Completely revamped WRs
2. Upgraded line including return of Jansen
3. Changed blocking schemes for running game
4. Mark Brunell injury

But, I am an understanding person, so I also understand when people let emotions get in the way of facts.

[Monte51Coleman]

Ok should have maybe worded that a little different. Sorry to whom ever that was if it was taken in a bad way. However, I did not plan to come to this site to impress anyone. I just like to read redskin news since I dont get much of it written down here in Fla. Im not here to impress anyone. If you see something I have written but have had a bad first impression dont read it, although I dont plan to post very much anyhow. Look im just tired of losing and feel strongly that last year if not any other we should have at least made the playoffs and would have had not MB started so many games. We were in games that could have and should have been won had it not been for very very poor QB play. Im not starting a post to ask who should start for the hundredth time. I already know that question. I guess it would just be nice to see a little respect and support for our leader for once in his redskin career

I don't believe that anyone is worried about you impressing them.
I was only trying to help acclimate you to our site so that you could enjoy it here.
I don't understand what you mean when you say "If you see something I have written but have had a bad first impression dont read it". I'm having trouble grasping that logic.
I, as you, believe that PR should be our qb. Has his play to date earned him the unquestionable support of all of our fanbase? I don't think so.

[Luca Brasi]

Quite simply, if you haven't watched the preseason games, then you really have no idea how much difference there is in this year and last. Ramsey is still my guy, and I hope he starts the entire 2005 season, but Brunell obviously played injured last year and is now healthy again. It's something you really have to see to understand.

[pilotperk]

Quite simply, if you haven't watched the preseason games, then you really have no idea how much difference there is in this year and last. Ramsey is still my guy, and I hope he starts the entire 2005 season, but Brunell obviously played injured last year and is now healthy again. It's something you really have to see to understand.

I have seen the games and acutally just got back yesterday from attending the game, as I have season tickets. Its IMO almost as discraseful to see the excuse of injury as a blame for his poor play. It is the NFL people get hurt all the time ... D McNabb plays hurt all the time and still goes to the pro bowl so if its injury was that bad then maybe we all as redskins fans blame the coaches for playing a injured QB. I mean come on could it honestly have been any worse. Again I will say my post was not INTENDED to debate Mark or Patrick and to whom should start, as i agree it seems that it has been debated way too much. I do however have to do a search to find a post to see some respect for Ramsey rather that log on look at the first few post and once again see People calling for Patricks head and to play Brunell.

[TheDane]

pilotperk, if you're comparing Brunell's situation to McNabb's situation, you are way off base. There are so many differences between the two scenarios that it's not even funny. In fact, it's so not funny that you made a poor child in war-torn Sudan cry.

[pilotperk]

pilotperk, if you're comparing Brunell's situation to McNabb's situation, you are way off base. There are so many differences between the two scenarios that it's not even funny. In fact, it's so not funny that you made a poor child in war-torn Sudan cry.
Simply making a statement that many QB's in the NFL play hurt and still produce. Not comparing injury to injury nor Brunell to McNabb as I know there is no comparsion to be made of the two by any means of this imaginaion

[MrSilverMaC]

Pilotperk is right, brunell blows.

Ramsey had the exact same weapons on the O last year as brunell, and did better statistically in less games started.

The use of an injury excuse is lame, and so is brunell.


And BTW, people insult other people on here all the time, including the mods, the only thing thats different is it's not allowed to turn into a flame war.

[forbeskin]

Since you cant read I will say it again .... I see that patrick or mark crap everytime I come to this site. Just saying it should not even be a topic IMO


Oh, whatever would we talk about then?

[CHUBAKAH]

Oh, whatever would we talk about then?
Hey I know, let's talk about corn dogs. I like them with mustard and just a little bit of ketsup. Sometimes I go mustard only. How bout you?

[hands11]

Here we go again...

Read the other 50 threads about this and you'll see both sides, I think most of us have agreed that Ramsey is our best option at the moment and are willing to give him a chance.


Agreed. At least wait until we play again.

If you dont get it, your not reading.

[hands11]

Since you cant read I will say it again .... I see that patrick or mark crap everytime I come to this site. Just saying it should not even be a topic IMO


Great opinion. Now we have the Brunell post police to go along with the spellllling plocice , opss. sorry.

:laugh: :laugh:

I'll never until why people actually go out of thier way to post about people not posting certain topics. Hold on. Am I doing that ? Crap. Well, this is different.

[PleaseBlitz]

Ok should have maybe worded that a little different. Sorry to whom ever that was if it was taken in a bad way. However, I did not plan to come to this site to impress anyone. I just like to read redskin news since I dont get much of it written down here in Fla. Im not here to impress anyone. If you see something I have written but have had a bad first impression dont read it, although I dont plan to post very much anyhow. Look im just tired of losing and feel strongly that last year if not any other we should have at least made the playoffs and would have had not MB started so many games. We were in games that could have and should have been won had it not been for very very poor QB play. Im not starting a post to ask who should start for the hundredth time. I already know that question. I guess it would just be nice to see a little respect and support for our leader for once in his redskin career


Anyone ever seen "The Rock"?

"Don't you think there's a lot of, uh, a lot of anger flowing around this island? Kind of a pubescent volatility? Don't you think? A lotta angst, a lot of 'I'm sixteen, I'm angry at my father' syndrome? I mean grow up!

That quote just came to me for some reason.

[hands11]

It amazes me that despite all of the facts to the contrary, people still blame Brunell for all of the offense's struggles last year. What facts do I refer to?

1. Completely revamped WRs
2. Upgraded line including return of Jansen
3. Changed blocking schemes for running game
4. Mark Brunell injury

But, I am an understanding person, so I also understand when people let emotions get in the way of facts.

Sounds like the Gibbs sucks thread where, I think we can all agree, I made a ton a new friends with my excellent title :cheers: :laugh:

[Luca Brasi]

I have seen the games and acutally just got back yesterday from attending the game, as I have season tickets.

"LOL actually yeah I have seen a play or two... Looks like a replica of last years pre season, almost exact same thing we all saw last year."

Guess it was that quote that threw me off.

So, living in FL but have season tickets? Interesting.

[Buck812]

The problem I will always have with Brunnell is the fact that he managed to get JG to Florida, bend him over a barrel and rape him to the tune of $43,000,000.00. I know it wasnt Brunnell's fault...Anyone of us would've taken it, but I still dont like it.

[NYCskins]

I love Kraft mac n' cheese.

[TheSteve]

"LOL actually yeah I have seen a play or two... Looks like a replica of last years pre season, almost exact same thing we all saw last year."

Guess it was that quote that threw me off.

So, living in FL but have season tickets? Interesting.

LOL. I'm on perks side when it comes to the QB issue, but how can you be geo challenged, living in FL, and then come to all the preseason and regular games? I mean you can, but you must have a lot of free time. It sounds like you're busted.

[eeyeats]

i also like corndogs, there's just something about synthetic food on a wooden stick that's been fried... MMMMMM!

[SouthernSkinsFan]

Im not here to impress anyone.

That's probably a good thing since you started the way you did!

Anyway, welcome to the site. I love your passion, even if you aren't "impressive."

;)

[panel]

I agree with pilot, it is laughable that this is an issue at all to me with people.

[pilotperk]

LOL. I'm on perks side when it comes to the QB issue, but how can you be geo challenged, living in FL, and then come to all the preseason and regular games? I mean you can, but you must have a lot of free time. It sounds like you're busted.

LMFAO, I guess its a crime or impossible to be a redskins fan, have season tickets and live in fla.. if so yeah i guess i am busted take me in and lock me up. My entire family lives up there, i grew up there and yeah im very fortunate to have a ton of free time. I am a pilot and seldom ever work more than 15 days a month. Sorry you can not relate.

[hands11]

I like PBJs.

[Phat Hog]

:sucks: Kill it...kill it!

[G-Prime]

hahaha this is getting ridiculous

[GrimReefa]

Pilot, we here at extremeskins have a community where the members treat each other with respect and dignity (except over at the Tailgate section, of course, where the pinkos and the brownshirts go at it no holds barred).

That being said, anyone who wants Brunell to see a snap in the regular season has got to be out of their freakin' minds!!!! And I don't care how he looks against the 2nd stringers...

[Skins24]

Great post perk, don't listen to these heathens
:D

[Luca Brasi]

LMFAO, I guess its a crime or impossible to be a redskins fan, have season tickets and live in fla.. if so yeah i guess i am busted take me in and lock me up. My entire family lives up there, i grew up there and yeah im very fortunate to have a ton of free time. I am a pilot and seldom ever work more than 15 days a month. Sorry you can not relate.

Flying from FL to see a preseason game? You're right, I cannot relate.

[spanishomelette]

Brunell!
Brunell, Brunell bo Boonell Bonana fanna fo Frunell
Fee fy mo Maroonell, Brunell!

[pilotperk]

Flying from FL to see a preseason game? You're right, I cannot relate.

Well considering the price that I pay for season tickets and my flights are free and I will say once again .... my family is there along with many friends so getting on a plane for a 2hr ride to me does not seem to be that big of a deal but hey, there is people whom still think Brunell is the answer so I guess people like you that can not relate to something this simple should not suprise me. I hope I have put that respectfully enough so i dont upset anyone else.

[CHUBAKAH]

Well considering the price that I pay for season tickets and my flights are free and I will say once again .... my family is there along with many friends so getting on a plane for a 2hr ride to me does not seem to be that big of a deal but hey, there is people whom still think Brunell is the answer so I guess people like you that can not relate to something this simple should not suprise me. I hope I have put that respectfully enough so i dont upset anyone else.

It's all good. My question is though...



Do you like corndogs?


Welcome to the site BTW.
:point2sky

[SkinsFTW]

I agree with the OP.

Brunell should be content standing next to Gibbs holding his beverage for him so he can give his full attention to the game.

[budski]

Whoever can get the job done is where my vote goes.

[KTrainSkinsFan]

Man take a cold shower and calm down.. MB was injured last year, it was obvious, and he is still a Redskin and maybe you need to become a better fan and rally behind both our QB's… Cause if PR goes down, MB is our only hope to make it to the play offs this year!! Have you seen the pre season games?? Have you seen how sharp MB has been? After all he was one of the most accurate passers in this league and you just don’t wake up one morning and SUCK… I understand you may hate MB, but next time take a deep breath than venting over our QB situation. I like what I see out of both of them and I am confident we will make a strong run at the play offs this year.

My thoughts exactly...good post.

[Buck812]

The reason Brunnell is still a Redskin is probably more because of cap ramifications than any football ability he has. The team just doesnt have a choice with him.

[brooksfb]

You People?!? :kungfu:

[whitejimmy]

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Rabble Rabble,

Rabble.

[hands11]

Agreed. At least wait until we play again.

If you dont get it, your not reading.


One more game later and he still has me very worried. He did nothing last night to impress.

2 sacks because he was indecisive, 1-2, 2 series, no pts.

Meantime, Brunell puts up 10 pts, throws on a line, lobs to the right spot and should have put up 17 pts if A Brown didn’t drop a pass right in his hands. Actually A Brown dropped a total of 4 passes like that.

[hands11]

The reason Brunnell is still a Redskin is probably more because of cap ramifications than any football ability he has. The team just doesnt have a choice with him.


Ahh, ya. That may have been what we thought ending last season and throughout the offseason but thats not what Gibbs thought and its not what anyone who has been watching the preseason and knows football is thinking.

[TLusby]

Please someone tell me why you would want Brunell leading our team ......

It is quite simple....MB has outplayed PR! He looks much more accurate, moves better in the pocket, and reads the defenses much better as well as he checks off the WR's without broadcasting his passes.

[FootballGuy2677]

just a few quick things that have been mention, some have not


1. MB was hurt last year. It's very hard to be a quality QB being injured.
2. O line was in shambles and now it's back and it's healthy. Samuels has been looking like a man possed and Jansen is a monster. Not to mention the free agent Center we got.
3. Portis, Gibbs has tweaked the offense and make it more practical for Portis and his speed, not too mention it was his 1st year.

Have faith in both Qb's. They can both play the game and so can the # 3 Qb. When he's ready, he will be the man. Until then # 11 is our man.

HTTR! :point2sky


by the way portis has gained 20 pounds so hes like 220 now ive heard...ill try to find the link if u want one...by the way dont forget about jason campbell(between u and me i think hes our real future QB ;) )

[Phat Hog]

Say what you want...he was the best QB this preseason. We'll see...

[RedskinPryde]

last year i heard nothin about him bein injured

[One_Mic]

Is this the 5 o'clock free crack giveaway?

[Skins24]

Say what you want...he was the best QB this preseason. We'll see...
Just as Danny W. and Shane Matthews outplayed everyone and were the best QBs in the preseason a few years ago.....

[flexxskins]

Flying from FL to see a preseason game? You're right, I cannot relate.I drive from Jersey just to watch on TV. Oh, I don't like corndogs.