It is amazing how cheap the Eagles FO is

[Westbrook36]

Total salary numbers from 2000 to 2004 for all NFL teams.

1. $390,819,249 Philadelphia Eagles
2. $382,673,005 Atlanta Falcons
3. $375,858,731 Chicago Bears
4. $373,833,158 Washington Redskins
5. $371,046,295 New York Jets
6. $369,591,901 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
7. $367,796,346 St. Louis Rams
8. $367,778,644 Detroit Lions
9. $366,583,147 New York Giants
10. $365,392,036 Seattle Seahawks
11. $363,482,362 Oakland Raiders
12. $362,985,446 Pittsburgh Steelers
13. $360,466,117 Arizona Cardinals
14. $354,791,340 Cleveland Browns
15. $352,776,920 Denver Broncos
16. $350,955,368 Indianapolis Colts
17. $349,605,735 Kansas City Chiefs
18. $348,920,137 Baltimore Ravens
19. $348,297,540 Cincinnati Bengals
20. $346,516,357 Miami Dolphins
21. $345,932,228 New Orleans Saints
22. $342,217,872 Carolina Panthers
23. $338,111,783 San Diego Chargers
24. $334,523,217 Tennessee Titans
25. $332,721,594 Green Bay Packers
26. $322,460,470 New England Patriots
27. $322,083,552 Minnesota Vikings
28. $319,287,441 Buffalo Bills
29. $319,163,689 Dallas Cowboys
30. $315,818,591 Jacksonville Jaguars
31. $291,769,266 San Francisco 49ers
32. $258,845,415 Houston Texans

Source: USA Today

I know this doesn't fit into the neat little argument most Skins fans have put into the back of their heads but facts are facts. Yep, the CHEAP Lurie has outspent Snyder who "will do anything to win".

All this while letting fans walk to the stadium.

[autographcollector]

Don't hate Westbrook....you overspent the last 5 and have no trophies to show for it.

Now get on the bandwagon and enjoy the ride.

[tr1]

Hmmm...they're so generous, all members of their team are happy with their contracts...except TO, Westbrook, Ackers, etc....

Nice try WB...they're humiliating your best offensive weapon, WB, just to make a point. He'll get a bigger contract, but he's having to pay hell for it....where's the love, man?

[Westbrook36]

tr1, they have spent the most on player salaries in the last five years. How do you try to spin that? Westbrook has repeatedly said that he wants to stay in Philly and a long-term deal is close.

Man, TO has been a quiet soldier for over 2 weeks, Westy is about to sign a long-term deal. The Eagles are 12 million under the cap and are going to sign McCants and Gordon in the next week.

It must be tough to be you right now. Your only hope for redemption was the Eagles falling apart and now you even realize that is not going to happen.

The Skins might have to beat the Eagles fair and square. That is what you are afraid of, correct?

[Ken]

tr1, they have spent the most on player salaries in the last five years. How do you try to spin that? Westbrook has repeatedly said that he wants to stay in Philly and a long-term deal is close.

Man, TO has been a quiet soldier for over 2 weeks, Westy is about to sign a long-term deal. The Eagles are 12 million under the cap and are going to sign McCants and Gordon in the next week.

It must be tough to be you right now. Your only hope for redemption was the Eagles falling apart and now you even realize that is not going to happen.

The Skins might have to beat the Eagles fair and square. That is what you are afraid of, correct?
They are a deep team, that plays a big part in their "average" salaries being higher. The Eagles are great at recognizing guys who are going to outplay their contract, they then pony up what appears to be a great contract to a young player. That contract, within a year or two, is considered underpaid.

That's when the problems start. Then the Eagles refuse to ante up. Look, you just released a pro bowl type player for nothing. I know, i know, you have depth there. Great. But he was a commodity in which you let walk. You might even regret it because you "may" have to play the Colts in the Super bowl this year. That is a big may because a lot can happen for both squads.


As far as TO goes.... I am just waiting to see the first "Pittsburge" type loss this year. That should be interesting.

[Westbrook36]

Eckel wrote an article today saying the Eagles are currently in negotiations with Roderick Hood, Adams, Westbrook, and Michael Lewis.

That 12 million is going to be a great investment. We can absorb most of the signing bonus hits as a roster bonus for this year.

[Number5]

Eckel wrote an article today saying the Eagles are currently in negotiations with Roderick Hood, Adams, Westbrook, and Michael Lewis.

That 12 million is going to be a great investment. We can absorb most of the signing bonus hits as a roster bonus for this year.

Sweet any figures projected yet?

[TD_washingtonredskins]

You don't need to spin that....

Salaries are secondary when it comes to the NFL contracts. The part of the contract that makes players happy and secures their future is the signing bonus.

Do these numbers just show the yearly salaries or are the bonuses included?

[Westbrook36]

You don't need to spin that....

Salaries are secondary when it comes to the NFL contracts. The part of the contract that makes players happy and secures their future is the signing bonus.

Do these numbers just show the yearly salaries or are the bonuses included?

No, these are the actual salaries they paid out each year for the five years listed. A bonus has nothing to do with it.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

No, these are the actual salaries they paid out each year for the five years listed. A bonus has nothing to do with it.

OK, that being the case (and I'm trying to be respectful unlike a lot of the members who debate with you and N5), don't you see how it's not a true indication of how much your organization is paying its players?

[Westbrook36]

OK, that being the case (and I'm trying to be respectful unlike a lot of the members who debate with you and N5), don't you see how it's not a true indication of how much your organization is paying its players?

No, I don't. The Eagles paid 390 million out during a 5 year period. THEY PAID THAT MONEY OUT, more than any other team in the league.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

No, I don't. The Eagles paid 390 million out during a 5 year period. THEY PAID THAT MONEY OUT, more than any other team in the league.

OK, I guess I'm misunderstanding something. If this does not include bonuses over those 5 years, then how can you have any true indication of how much money each team actually paid out?

If it does include the bonuses, then I see your point.

[Westbrook36]

A bonus becomes part of each years salary once it is prorated for the term of the contract. A roster bonus becomes part of the salary once it is given to the player.

[tr1]

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/12549467.htm

Eagles are flying low under the salary cap

They have a $12.6 million surplus, more than any team in the NFL, according to a well-established Web site.

By Bob Brookover

Inquirer Staff Writer

Twelve million, six hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

That's the Eagles' salary-cap surplus, according to the well-established NFL-related Web site profootballtalk.com.

It really is an astonishing number, even if it is skewed by the team's recent decision to lift the franchise tag from defensive tackle Corey Simon, freeing up $5.13 million from the cap.

If the Eagles had not allowed Simon to walk away, they still would have more money left under the salary cap than any team in the NFL, according to the Web site's figures. The Houston Texans are second on the list with $7.38 million, which is $5.24 million less than the Eagles.

Twenty-four teams in the league don't have as much salary-cap room remaining as the gap between the Eagles and Texans.

What does it all mean?

The people at profootballtalk.com lauded the Eagles for their outstanding ability to manage the salary cap, but they also raised the point that when the players hear about the team's windfall, they may start wondering when they're going to get their share of the team's wealth.

It's impossible, of course, to argue that the Eagles aren't a successfully run franchise. They have been to the playoffs five straight years and reached the NFC championship game four straight times. According to Forbes magazine, the franchise is valued at $952 million, the fourth most valuable professional team in the country.

Eagles president Joe Banner and his assistant, Howie Roseman, have long been recognized as among the best in the league at managing the salary cap.

It's a lot better to be in the Eagles' situation than that of the Tennessee Titans, who spent the off-season dumping quality players just to get under the league-mandated cap of $85.5 million.

The Titans are a league-low $253,000 under the cap, according to profootballtalk.com. That means if one of their top players goes down, they don't have enough money to replace him with anything other than one of their practice-squad players. It also means they cannot extend the contracts of any of their current players on the roster and have that money count against this year's salary cap.

Asked about the Web site's figures, Banner said the number is inflated.

"That's a paper number," he said. "There are things like player incentives and the amount you pay when certain players are cut that have to be factored in. I think the number is more like $9 million or $10 million."

That, of course, is still a significant surplus and leaves the Eagles open to question about a few things.

Terrell Owens and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, are probably asking, "Why can't they give us more?" Of course, they were asking that before these figures were released, too.

Though the cap surplus isn't going to go into a new deal for Owens, Banner said the Eagles have every intention of spending that money.

"Whenever we have cap room, it is spent in these ways, in this priority," Banner said. "First, we spend it on anybody who can help this year's team in any way."

A devil's advocate would argue that Simon would have helped the Eagles in their bid to get back to the Super Bowl, and maybe that's true. But coach Andy Reid felt the Eagles would be just fine without Simon. That was a football decision and not a financial one.

"The next priority is to extend as many players as we can during the season," Banner said.

Running back Brian Westbrook, of course, is at the top of that list right now, but the Eagles also will probably attempt to extend deals for safety Michael Lewis, cornerback Rod Hood, kicker David Akers, and possibly tight end L.J. Smith.

"After that, we push as much money into next year's salary cap," Banner said. "Our first priority with that money is that we want to sign our players, and the second priority is it allows us to be active in the free-agent market."

The Eagles were not tremendously active in the free-agent market this off-season, bringing in only reserve quarterback Mike McMahon. Last year, however, they had enough cap room to give Owens and Jevon Kearse a combined $25 million in bonus money.

"Between the three things above, we always end up spending 100 percent of our salary-cap money," Banner said. "It will get spent on making us the best football team we can be. Our history is more proof of that than the words. We're sitting here right now with a football team we feel pretty good about."

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One week away from the beginning of the season and they're still sitting on a big pile of cash...just no love for their players....it's a pity really....

[Westbrook36]

Banner said the figure is actually around 9 million dollars. The Simon release freed up over 5 million. You make that statement as if the Eagles have been hording all that money all off-season.

Just wait. When the Eagles extend Michael Lewis, Westbrook, Roderick Hood and maybe Adams, all you will be reduced to saying is "I bet all these players signing is really infuriating TO. buahahahahaa!!!"

It must suck to watch the Eagles utilize cap room to sign up and coming players like Lito Sheppard and Sheldon Brown at a discount rather than paying top dollar for the Michael Barrows and Mark Brunnells of the world.

BTW, you forgot to highlight this portion of the story when you posted it:


"After that, we push as much money into next year's salary cap," Banner said. "Our first priority with that money is that we want to sign our players, and the second priority is it allows us to be active in the free-agent market."

The Eagles were not tremendously active in the free-agent market this off-season, bringing in only reserve quarterback Mike McMahon. Last year, however, they had enough cap room to give Owens and Jevon Kearse a combined $25 million in bonus money.

"Between the three things above, we always end up spending 100 percent of our salary-cap money," Banner said. "It will get spent on making us the best football team we can be. Our history is more proof of that than the words. We're sitting here right now with a football team we feel pretty good about."

[Monte51Coleman]

I know this doesn't fit into the neat little argument most Skins fans have put into the back of their heads but facts are facts. Yep, the CHEAP Lurie has outspent Snyder who "will do anything to win".

All this while letting fans walk to the stadium.

You're such a hater. It's so sad that you feel the need to come to this site and post these insipid little comments.

BTW- All of the spending that you seem so proud of has bought you exactly how many Lombardi Trophys over that time period? The same amount as the Redskins? :laugh:

[Westbrook36]

How am I a hater? It has become standard operating procedures around here to throw out a line about how cheap the Eagles are whenever the philosophies of the two teams are discussed.

I figured I'd cut through the rhetoric with some actual facts for once.

[Monte51Coleman]

How am I a hater? It has become standard operating procedures around here to throw out a line about how cheap the Eagles are whenever the philosophies of the two teams are discussed.

I figured I'd cut through the rhetoric with some actual facts for once.

The numbers, if accurate and all encompassing, speak for themselves. The shots at Snyder shows your underlying hatred. Do you ever consider that you are on a Redskins message board when you get frustrated about the Eagles organization taking shots here? Do you? Common sense should tell you to expect it.

[tr1]

The numbers, if accurate and all encompassing, speak for themselves. The shots at Snyder shows your underlying hatred. Do you ever consider that you are on a Redskins message board when you get frustrated about the Eagles organization taking shots here? Do you? Common sense should tell you to expect it.

Ding!

[Spaceman Spiff]

I think the real question here, for all the smack talking the eagles fans do is....after all that spending, have you guys won your first superbowl yet?