View Full Version : Brunell's on course for career-high rating
JimmiJo
October-17th-2005, 10:10 AM
Brunell has a 91.5 rating. In '97 he finished the year with 91.2.
Other stats of note:
Skins O is 7th overall before tonight's game. 8th overall in passing.
Moss leads ALL NFL receivers.
Defense stays at 5th overall.
bubba9497
October-17th-2005, 10:12 AM
Moss leads ALL NFL receivers
and it's not Randy
Drex
October-17th-2005, 10:12 AM
Brunell is having a solid season and is keeping us in ballgames.
However, the offensive line has to do a better job of protecting him, as he has taken too many hits as of late.
illone
October-17th-2005, 10:14 AM
Nice to see Moss up at #1. Who woulda thunk it?
Epistopheles
October-17th-2005, 11:00 AM
Brunell has a 91.5 rating. In '97 he finished the year with 91.2.
Other stats of note:
Skins O is 7th overall before tonight's game. 8th overall in passing.
Moss leads ALL NFL receivers.
Defense stays at 5th overall.
Safe to assume then that fumbles don't factor into the QB rating.
Ball Coach
October-17th-2005, 11:04 AM
Brunell is having a solid season and is keeping us in ballgames.
However, the offensive line has to do a better job of protecting him, as he has taken too many hits as of late.
Keeping us in ballgames isn't glowing praise. I am probably alone in this since the Dallas game seems to have given Brunell hero status, but he is going to have to step up and make plays on a consistant basis for them to win the types of games that you say he has been keeping them in.
Drex
October-17th-2005, 11:10 AM
Keeping us in ballgames isn't glowing praise. I am probably alone in this since the Dallas game seems to have given Brunell hero status, but he is going to have to step up and make plays on a consistant basis for them to win the types of games that you say he has been keeping them in.
At this point, it's difficult to knock any aspect of Brunell's performance. Especially considering the lack of help he is receiving from the defensive side of the football. The guy constantly has to drive the team down the field, rarely being the beneficiary of shorter fields as a result of a lack of turnovers as well as no big plays on the kick/punt return teams.
Also, taking into consideration his putrid performance of last season, I am proud of the way Brunell has bounced back this season. Let's just hope that the offensive line can protect him and keep him healthy.
Swift
October-17th-2005, 11:18 AM
At this point, it's difficult to knock any aspect of Brunell's performance. Especially considering the lack of help he is receiving from the defensive side of the football. The guy constantly has to drive the team down the field, rarely being the beneficiary of shorter fields as a result of a lack of turnovers as well as no big plays on the kick/punt return teams.
Also, taking into consideration his putrid performance of last season, I am proud of the way Brunell has bounced back this season. Let's just hope that the offensive line can protect him and keep him healthy.
When our offense takes the field with Brunell in the pocket, I am confident we can move the ball downfield. It's been a long time since I could say that. He's been playing very smart at QB these past few games. No particularly bad passes, avoiding the sack with poise, hitting open receivers. The only thing I've seen that he's blatantly done wrong is not protecting the ball on that run against KC. That was one of the first things he addressed in his conference with the media afterwards, so I'm confident he'll fix it.
Art Monk Fan
October-17th-2005, 11:19 AM
Anyone know what Brunell's QB rating just for the KC game was?
matty dread
October-17th-2005, 11:21 AM
Brunell is playing very well, I know it might be hard for the Ramsey jockers to admit, but Brunell was clearly the right choice at QB.
Nice to see Gibbs wasn't crazy after all when he said the final chapter on Brunell hadn't been written yet.
Drex
October-17th-2005, 11:23 AM
When our offense takes the field with Brunell in the pocket, I am confident we can move the ball downfield. It's been a long time since I could say that. He's been playing very smart at QB these past few games. No particularly bad passes, avoiding the sack with poise, hitting open receivers. The only thing I've seen that he's blatantly done wrong is not protecting the ball on that run against KC. That was one of the first things he addressed in his conference with the media afterwards, so I'm confident he'll fix it.
I agree with your stance regarding his tendecy of not protecting the ball while scrambling.
If the offensive line protects him well enough, this will limit the need for Brunell to run. The ability to protect Brunell is my chief area of concern on the offensive side of the football.
JimmiJo
October-17th-2005, 11:32 AM
Keeping us in ballgames isn't glowing praise. I am probably alone in this since the Dallas game seems to have given Brunell hero status, but he is going to have to step up and make plays on a consistant basis for them to win the types of games that you say he has been keeping them in.
Do you read what you type prior to selecting 'submit?'
Yesterday he threw for 331 yards, 3 TDs, was 25 of 41 (61% completion) and ended the game with a rating of 110.9.
That my friend is Pro-Bowl caliber play no matter where you are in the NFL. He however, does not block D-linemen and LBs, and he does not play the running back position.
TODD
October-17th-2005, 11:36 AM
I wouldn't have thunk 91.5 in a million years coming into the season. But I'm DAMN glad he's doing so. He looks like an all-Pro every week the way he keeps us in games and plays in the clutch.
Seriously, I never thought I'd be writing something like this after last year. :)
asnpcwiz
October-17th-2005, 11:52 AM
Brunells looking good...except for when he's on the run...holding the football like a bag of potatoe chips is a sure way to get it knocked loose. I love watching him throw now, it's like he's found the fountain of youth in the preseason...whatever's he's drinking, I want it.
SeanTheBeastTaylor
October-17th-2005, 11:54 AM
This is the only stat that matters - 3-2
H-O-G
October-17th-2005, 11:54 AM
His rating had to have gone up since KC because 3TD and 0 INT for over 300 yards is only a ++++
NAILBOMB9
October-17th-2005, 12:39 PM
Well, being's how his lucrative contract costed us Pierce/Smoot/and soon to be Arrington, he better be doing good.
KSUskinfan
October-17th-2005, 12:59 PM
Although Brunell's excellent performance has been obviously welcome, I'd take him with an average rating of 75-80 this season rather that 90+ if it means we make the playoffs. He could have a career season, but if we don't get into the postseason, then it will all be for naught.
Winning is all that matters. But damn, Brunell has looked good!
:logo:
JimmiJo
October-17th-2005, 02:43 PM
Well, being's how his lucrative contract costed us Pierce/Smoot/and soon to be Arrington, he better be doing good.
Frickin' Noobs :doh:
Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin
October-17th-2005, 02:46 PM
I wouldn't have thunk 91.5 in a million years coming into the season. But I'm DAMN glad he's doing so. He looks like an all-Pro every week the way he keeps us in games and plays in the clutch.
Seriously, I never thought I'd be writing something like this after last year. :)
Agreed. I still have some reservations about the 'offensive personality' with him under center, but if other issues are resolved, it won't matter and we'll be JUST explosive enough. I really like that he leads long drives, I just hope we see some more connections downfield(and I don't mean 50 yarders, but 15-35 yards)
If the D gets its kinks ironed out and healthy, we'll be straight.
Oh and the run game. Which has nothing to do with the QB. Run game needs some work. (and mark, i love the running, just tuck that bad boy a little bit, will ya? :) )
Jon T.
October-17th-2005, 02:55 PM
Did anyone hear Fat Tony on TV talking about how frustrating our offense must be for Brunnell?!? I think The Goose had too much sauce! What a waste!
TASPM
October-17th-2005, 03:10 PM
Nice to see Moss up at #1. Who woulda thunk it?
Me! After Moss scores a TD next week all the people in the stands should go :notworthy
The Bounty Hunter #21
October-17th-2005, 03:21 PM
Yup Yup Moss is da Man
Miskinske
October-17th-2005, 03:27 PM
Lets also keep in mind he leads the league in yardage at 631, and we've had a bye week!
scrol14
October-17th-2005, 03:27 PM
It seemed like KC blitzed Brunell on almost every play and we couldnt get a draw play or a run to really burn them bad. He did pretty good with the blitz and saw some hot reads but he has to get rid of the ball and just like somebody mentioned "quite carrying it like a pack of chips"
Ball Coach
October-18th-2005, 07:05 AM
Do you read what you type prior to selecting 'submit?'
Yesterday he threw for 331 yards, 3 TDs, was 25 of 41 (61% completion) and ended the game with a rating of 110.9.
That my friend is Pro-Bowl caliber play no matter where you are in the NFL. He however, does not block D-linemen and LBs, and he does not play the running back position.
I don't care who makes the Pro-Bowl, that is an exhibition game played in Hawaii after the season is over.
I replied to someone who said that they like the way Brunell keeps them in games. The goal isn't to keep them in games, the goal is to make enough plays for them to win the games.
Stop looking for arguments that are not there, I'm sure you will be able to find them somewhere on this board.
Park City Skins
October-18th-2005, 07:20 AM
Sshhhhh. Not so loud. Other teams might hear. ;)
Man's showing some improvement over last year though isn't he?
red zone
October-18th-2005, 07:30 AM
Keeping us in ballgames isn't glowing praise. I am probably alone in this since the Dallas game seems to have given Brunell hero status, but he is going to have to step up and make plays on a consistant basis for them to win the types of games that you say he has been keeping them in.
Ball Coach, that's just silly. Brunell is playing at as high a level as anyone in the NFL. He and Moss are carrying the offense.
Doctor ToughLove
October-18th-2005, 07:36 AM
Brunell's career has been super, so I don't find it suprizing that Brunell is on pace to have the best QB year of any Redskins since Rypien. I thought is was suprizing that people were burrying Brunell so quick. I mean what the heck were people expecting in half a season with all new players who have never played for their new coach?
JimmiJo
October-18th-2005, 07:38 AM
I don't care who makes the Pro-Bowl, that is an exhibition game played in Hawaii after the season is over.
I replied to someone who said that they like the way Brunell keeps them in games. The goal isn't to keep them in games, the goal is to make enough plays for them to win the games.
Stop looking for arguments that are not there, I'm sure you will be able to find them somewhere on this board.
But that is not what you seemed to be saying. What you seemed to be saying is that since Dallas he has a hero status that may not be earned. And that he is really not getting it done. Is that what you are saying? Nobody likes the semantics police so rather than remind everyone what the goals are, maybe you should state what it is you think. Because I fully agree whit the statement "he keeps us in games" because what I take from that is that he puts us in a position to win, which panned out in Dallas and in the Seattle game. However, since he can't both throw the ball and then catch it, since he can't hand the ball off and run it, it takes more than him.
Ball Coach
October-18th-2005, 07:52 AM
But that is not what you seemed to be saying. What you seemed to be saying is that since Dallas he has a hero status that may not be earned. And that he is really not getting it done. Is that what you are saying? Nobody likes the semantics police so rather than remind everyone what the goals are, maybe you should state what it is you think. Because I fully agree whit the statement "he keeps us in games" because what I take from that is that he puts us in a position to win, which panned out in Dallas and in the Seattle game. However, since he can't both throw the ball and then catch it, since he can't hand the ball off and run it, it takes more than him.
I find it strange that you are having trouble understanding what I am saying, it is fairly obvious. Perhaps you do understand what I was saying, but you disagree with it, but you thought it would serve the post better if you tried talking down to me.
I agree that "he keeps us in games"as well, but like I said in my first post, that isn't glowing praise for a QB. I expect that he would need to make more plays in order to win those games, he is keeping close.
JimmiJo
October-18th-2005, 07:57 AM
I find it strange that you are having trouble understanding what I am saying, it is fairly obvious. Perhaps you do understand what I was saying, but you disagree with it, but you thought it would serve the post better if you tried talking down to me.
I agree that "he keeps us in games"as well, but like I said in my first post, that isn't glowing praise for a QB. I expect that he would need to make more plays in order to win those games, he is keeping close.
Thanks for telling me what is NOT glowing praise for a QB. So, Brunell is not making enough plays, is that your assertion?
Ball Coach
October-18th-2005, 08:05 AM
Thanks for telling me what is NOT glowing praise for a QB. So, Brunell is not making enough plays, is that your assertion?
I'm amazed this is necessary, but here goes. From the very post you replied and quoted:
I expect that he would need to make more plays in order to win those games, he is keeping close.
Art
October-18th-2005, 08:07 AM
Brunell is playing well. The second fumble hurt us and was on him. The first fumble hurt us but was not on him. That was pretty quick pressure surrendered from an unlikely source -- Samuels. It's hard to complain about his performance to this point, but, it may also be hard to see him routinely throwing for 300 :).
JimmiJo
October-18th-2005, 08:10 AM
I'm amazed this is necessary, but here goes. From the very post you replied and quoted:
I expect that he would need to make more plays in order to win those games, he is keeping close.
I expect that you do not understand what you are seeing him do. If you look at my first reply to you where I lay out his day statistically, you may see that he is in fact making tremendous plays. When you look at our third down conversion rating, you will see that he is making tremendous plays. When you look at the amount of long passes, scrambles for first downs, and our overall record, you will see that he is making all the plays necessary to win.
Ok, I now understand what you are saying. I fully disagree with it, ascribe it to you either being a PR homer or having really high standards for the QB position, in which case you have not been happy with any of our QBs since 91.
I'm sorry, I will try not to engage you any more, as I don't think we can have a productive conversation.
jerrarde
October-18th-2005, 08:12 AM
Brunell: Comeback Player of the year!
santanamoss89
October-18th-2005, 08:28 PM
also only 2 interceptions which is 1st in NFC
redman
October-18th-2005, 08:34 PM
One of the things that's impressive to me is that Brunell's deep passes are as good as ever.
The last offensive play of the game versus KC was a perfectly thrown TD pass to Moss but for the safety coming over and making a good play on the ball. He's back, and as a result so are we.
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