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Rdskns2000
October-31st-2005, 12:38 AM
Asides from most of the Dallas game; this is the first game where we really have stunk up the place. I think in the long run- this type of loss; will actually help us. I'm sure noone- including the coaches will have an easy week this week. They will see what went wrong and hopefully correct it.

I see 2 winnable games the next 2 weeks. If we come out flat next week and lose- then this could turn into a long season. After the Bucs- a resurgent Raiders and Chargers are next. I think the Philly game is a must win for this team. It's needs to bounce back from a horrible performance and also take advantage of an Eagles team that clearly isn't the same team that has won the NFC EAST the last 4 years.


One thing from this game- Eli Manning is going to be giving us fits for more than a decade- so we better figure him out!

The Bounty Hunter #21
October-31st-2005, 12:44 AM
I agree with u.....every team has a really bad loss sometimes....we will c if we learn from our mistakes...

aolforbroadband
October-31st-2005, 12:45 AM
I agree. Last week was 1 game, and don't expect that kind of thing very often at all with Redskins coached by Joe Gibbs.

We have a great chance at bouncing back vs. the Eagles next week at home.

The season isn't over because of one game people.

dreamshatterer
October-31st-2005, 01:02 AM
Holy crap people, just one game!!!

PREDICTOR
October-31st-2005, 01:06 AM
Kind of like Hiroshima benefited the Japanese in the long run? I'm sure some Japs would disagree with that.

RedskinsAAFJ
October-31st-2005, 01:10 AM
What a load of crap...nothing good will come from this...36-0? Are you kidding me? What good could posibly come from getting totally destroyed on both sides of the field? We got freakin Owned. Our morale is down the toilet and some of the Redskins are acting like they don't care. I really thought we had something but I got a reality check today...so much for our playoff run...this season is done...no wonder we are the laughing stock of the league. Brunell sucks, our D got ran all over, our only chance to win a game is to throw it up and hope Moss catches it, and I think that is gone now because teams are watching him. Sorry if I'm not stuck up in the clouds like some of you, but that really is how it is.


Forget Joe Gibbs, Tikki Barber is our new daddy

aolforbroadband
October-31st-2005, 01:14 AM
What a load of crap...nothing good will come from this...36-0? Are you kidding me? What good could posibly come from getting totally destroyed on both sides of the field? We got freakin Owned. Our morale is down the toilet and some of the Redskins are acting like they don't care. I really thought we had something but I got a reality check today...so much for our playoff run...this season is done...no wonder we are the laughing stock of the league. Brunell sucks, our D got ran all over, our only chance to win a game is to throw it up and hope Moss catches it, and I think that is gone now because teams are watching him. Sorry if I'm not stuck up in the clouds like some of you, but that really is how it is.

Where were you during the 4 wins? :laugh:

Give me a friggin' break. Nothing GOOD is going to come of this necesarily, but it's not the end of the world.

GOD, some of you people are such whiney panzy fans. No wonder our fanbase sucks compared to others. We mail it in after one bad loss. Jesus...

Bacon
October-31st-2005, 01:17 AM
Here's a tip:

When covering a receiver, don't stand 8 yards away from them, stand as close as you can get without touching them. ;) Is it that hard to compensate correctly? :mad:

RedskinsAAFJ
October-31st-2005, 01:26 AM
I'm just being real here. This is always a pivitol point in the season. We always start the season off good, but once we get to the middle of the schedule we always find a way to mess up. It happens year after year, and this one looks like another big disapointment. just look at our next four games: Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Oakland, San Diego. We could very well come out of this 4-7. Tikki Owned us today; I don't even want to think about what Thomlinson will do to us.

Billy Bullocks
October-31st-2005, 02:32 AM
You guys came out flat.

Dallas, dont even get me started, you lucky bastards..

Either way, the NFC is going to be crazy this year. Aside from today for you guys, admit it, this is the most fun you've had watching football for a while. I dont think anyone besides Philly is going to argue with that in the NFC East.

Bacon
October-31st-2005, 02:36 AM
Either way, the NFC is going to be crazy this year. Aside from today for you guys, admit it, this is the most fun you've had watching football for a while. I dont think anyone besides Philly is going to argue with that in the NFC East.

True, very true. :applause:

Billy Bullocks
October-31st-2005, 02:41 AM
That'll prolly be the only thing we agree on. But jesus christ, im on the verge of having a heart attack almost every freakn Sunday. Sometimes on Monday too ;)....except that is usually utter disbelief, some sort of nightmare.

I love it though. This has been such a roller coaster ride so far. 8 weeks into the season, how are all NFC East teams still over .500

6 teams in NFC with 5 wins. 5 come from 2 divisons, NFC Beast and NFC South

Sticksboi05
October-31st-2005, 06:45 AM
What a load of crap...nothing good will come from this...36-0? Are you kidding me? What good could posibly come from getting totally destroyed on both sides of the field? We got freakin Owned. Our morale is down the toilet and some of the Redskins are acting like they don't care. I really thought we had something but I got a reality check today...so much for our playoff run...this season is done...no wonder we are the laughing stock of the league. Brunell sucks, our D got ran all over, our only chance to win a game is to throw it up and hope Moss catches it, and I think that is gone now because teams are watching him. Sorry if I'm not stuck up in the clouds like some of you, but that really is how it is.


Forget Joe Gibbs, Tikki Barber is our new daddy

No you're thinking is a load of crap. You can learn alot more from losing then winning. I agree that we can build on this experience. I believe we have a good shot to beat the Eagles next week as long as we are healthy. McNabb isn't McNabb. They have an inept run game and T.O. is there only big deep threat. One game and the fake fans come out.

DCSKINZ80
October-31st-2005, 06:56 AM
The only you can learn from this game is that if you don't show up to play, you'll get smacked down.

HaVoC
October-31st-2005, 07:00 AM
I'm just being real here. This is always a pivitol point in the season. We always start the season off good, but once we get to the middle of the schedule we always find a way to mess up. It happens year after year, and this one looks like another big disapointment. just look at our next four games: Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Oakland, San Diego. We could very well come out of this 4-7. Tikki Owned us today; I don't even want to think about what Thomlinson will do to us.

You are an idiot and should have your posting benefits REVOKED. Get out of here with that crap.

kingdaddy
October-31st-2005, 07:11 AM
The NFL is a week-to-week league. There is no team in the NFC that can feel totally comfortable with themselves. I don't think any team in the league would have beaten the Giants yesterday, they had too much to play for and too much emotion.
In the NFC East it's going to be all about holding serve at home. We already have a leg up on the division because we won a tough road game (at Dallas) and nobody else in the division has done that yet. If we win all 3 of our home games we, at worst, go 4-2 in the division. That's not going to be easy, but that's what we have to do. Now is the perfect time to be playing the Eagles. Our D needs to step up and make a statement next week and we'll be fine.

grampi
October-31st-2005, 07:11 AM
rdskns2000

There's absolutely nothing good that comes from an ***** whippin' like this. Nothing! This was pure and simple a setback. JG will have to dig deep to turn it around. BTW, who is noone?

NOVA2Tampa
October-31st-2005, 07:33 AM
Now the 'Skins know how the 49ers felt last week...hopefully, they will learn from this hard lesson...the Redskins have plenty of talent...they just need to click every week like they did last week.

Of course, playing the 49ers at home ain't the same as playing the Giants on the road...Gibbs needs to start the second half of the season off on the right foot...need to notch a couple of wins...in a row...:point2sky

Idaho fan
October-31st-2005, 07:54 AM
My thinking....

If the 49ERS can get pounded like they did and come back the next week and beat the 5-1 Bucs than we can beat the Eagles.

I am not sure if this loss will benefit us or not (still not sure how a loss can be a good thing) but I know our team is not what we saw yesterday. :logo:

Doctorfro
October-31st-2005, 08:07 AM
Learn something from a loss? Sure! That we are not a good football team. We're just an average football team. One that will spend January watching TV. Get real, people. Optimism is one thing but insanity is another. All this "one bad game" stuff is a load of crap. We are going to be humiliated primetime next week. Aren't you excited? Here's to football!!

Drex
October-31st-2005, 08:12 AM
The NFL is a week-to-week league. There is no team in the NFC that can feel totally comfortable with themselves. I don't think any team in the league would have beaten the Giants yesterday, they had too much to play for and too much emotion.
In the NFC East it's going to be all about holding serve at home. We already have a leg up on the division because we won a tough road game (at Dallas) and nobody else in the division has done that yet. If we win all 3 of our home games we, at worst, go 4-2 in the division. That's not going to be easy, but that's what we have to do. Now is the perfect time to be playing the Eagles. Our D needs to step up and make a statement next week and we'll be fine.

At some point, the cream does rise to the top. Teams that are contenders will separate themselves from the rest of the pack as the season goes on.

IMO, in the coming weeks, you will see teams begin to distance themselves from the rest of the competition in the NFC as well as the NFC East division. The teams that typically emerge are not just the teams that win the games they are supposed to win at home, but also win statement road games against their rivals.

202Chaz
October-31st-2005, 08:16 AM
Holy crap people, just one game!!!

Let's spread this around this board

jroddvette
October-31st-2005, 09:50 AM
The only you can learn from this game is that if you don't show up to play, you'll get smacked down.

truer words have not been spoken!

they did not come to play this game. and i was there, for my first nfl game, my birthday gift. it was bad.

they are a much better team then they showed on sunday. but they have their work cut out for them this week, and i hope they have the heart to bounce back from this.

hail to the redskins!

gimpy007
October-31st-2005, 10:15 AM
My thinking....

If the 49ERS can get pounded like they did and come back the next week and beat the 5-1 Bucs than we can beat the Eagles.

I am not sure if this loss will benefit us or not (still not sure how a loss can be a good thing) but I know our team is not what we saw yesterday. :logo:

:applause:
I'm with you brother. There is a reason why we play 16 regular season games. I also can not think of anything good that will come from this game, but what I do know is that after a loss like this the Redskins can do 1 of 2 things. 1) Go home to mommy, cry and eat chicken noodle soup.
2) Move and go win some football games.

I vote for #2.

ATLANTASKINSFAN
October-31st-2005, 10:33 AM
Holy crap people, just one game!!!

Actually it's 3 out of the last 4 but who's counting.

rvan1
October-31st-2005, 10:36 AM
the giants game definitely wont end our season, a philly loss might though.

redskins55
October-31st-2005, 10:58 AM
I'm just being real here. This is always a pivitol point in the season. We always start the season off good, but once we get to the middle of the schedule we always find a way to mess up. It happens year after year, and this one looks like another big disapointment. just look at our next four games: Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Oakland, San Diego. We could very well come out of this 4-7. Tikki Owned us today; I don't even want to think about what Thomlinson will do to us.

I understand your frustration. You've been demoralized by the past teams and outcomes and have resorted to define the current team by previous team's short comings. But in football, you cant think that way . A loss is a loss, and it doesnt define a season. In this league you can beat anyone and lose to anymone. You listed the next opponents as if its a given that they will beat us all because we lost to the Giants on the road. The Bucs (5-1) lost to the 49ers ( 1-5), the Jaguars lost to St. Louis yesterday. You dont think they had that penciled in as a win on the board? We just played a bad game yeatserday, nothing more, nothing less.

Stop dwelling in the past and focus on football. This is a different team, with a different coach, with a different passion. Those past teams were sorry as hell! and have nothing to do with the present.

Bad Man Burgendy & Gold
October-31st-2005, 11:11 AM
A 36-0 loss helping a team????? You guys are trying to look to hard for a silver lining. Sorry it isn't there, everyone played horrible. It isn't the end of the world, but believe me nothing good occured yesterday, stop trying to look for it

Crazyhorse1
October-31st-2005, 11:16 AM
My 20-20 hindsight only adds to the pain.


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TD_washingtonredskins
October-31st-2005, 11:20 AM
I hope it has the positive impact that it could. I worry that it won't, but I truly trust Gibbs to right the ship. These types of games can send a team in either direction. Let's hope it's a galvanizing event!

TD_washingtonredskins
October-31st-2005, 11:21 AM
A 36-0 loss helping a team????? You guys are trying to look to hard for a silver lining. Sorry it isn't there, everyone played horrible. It isn't the end of the world, but believe me nothing good occured yesterday, stop trying to look for it

Two different things. The original poster didn't say that anything good occured yesterday. He's saying that something good can come out of it.

RedskinsAAFJ
October-31st-2005, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RedskinsAAFJ
I'm just being real here. This is always a pivotal point in the season. We always start the season off good, but once we get to the middle of the schedule we always find a way to mess up. It happens year after year, and this one looks like another big disappointment. just look at our next four games: Philadelphia, Tampa Bay, Oakland, San Diego. We could very well come out of this 4-7. Tikki Owned us today; I don't even want to think about what Thomlinson will do to us.

You are an idiot and should have your posting benefits REVOKED. Get out of here with that crap.

No, you are an idiot if you can't see that this is a pivotal point in the season. It is not my fault if you can't see that this loss hurts our playoffs chances. We have 4 tough games coming up and yesterday was a game that we didn't even try to win. I seriously don't know what you are hoping for this season, but we are in a tight playoff race against some quality teams, and there is no excuse for not showing up to play. This happens year after year, and like I said, if we don't turn it around soon we will be out of the playoff running. If we don't win the division, there are only 2 playoff spots left and you must take every game seriously, so get out of here with that, "it's only one game" crap because every game counts.

Rdskns2000
October-31st-2005, 09:56 PM
Two different things. The original poster didn't say that anything good occured yesterday. He's saying that something good can come out of it.


You are correct. I fully expect Joe and Co- to look at this and see what went wrong. The players who failed us-maybe seeing the bench next week. We are going to see what this team is made up over the next few weeks. Either we jell and make a playoff run or we fall apart. My bet is we make run to the playoffs.

If this was Turner or Spurrier- this team would've cave in and we would be 0-7 and not 4-3.

ECU-ALUM
October-31st-2005, 10:20 PM
Coming back from a loss like this is a major challenge...and nobody likes a challenge better than Coach Gibbs. He'll have them ready to go against Philly...count on it!

ChicagoRedskinsFan
October-31st-2005, 11:48 PM
I did not see this one coming. I’m guessing we’re the first team in NFL history to score 50+ one week and 0 the next. I thought that if the Redskins lost yesterday, it would be the typical heartbreaking, narrow defeat we’ve grown accustomed to suffering (especially against division rivals). I did not want to experience that agony again, but instead I got to experience a new kind of agony. This was a big chance for the Redskins to assert themselves as the top team in the NFC East and maybe the NFC. And they completely failed. It’s disappointing because a lot of people – fans, media, odds makers, believed that Gibbs had righted the ship. Many last week predicted the Redskins would win this game as a big step on their way to the playoffs.

A loss like this hurts psychologically and it also makes the losses to Denver and KC hurt more. This game we legitimately got spanked, but those games we were the dominant team but blew it. I could shake this one off easier if the Skins were 6-1 now. But at 4-3, middle of the pack, with a tough schedule and tough division, the playoff chances are sketchy right now. Only wins against Philly AND Tampa would really brighten the picture.

I still think the Gibbs II era is going in the right direction. Their record and stats going into this game back that up. One loss, even is big as this, is not the end of the world. But it certainly does let some air out of the tires.

Reasons for hope:

- This has already been a better season than last year. They beat the Cowboys on the road on Monday night (a win we will always cherish). They’ve had a winning record all year. Only 2 wins shy of last years mark with 9 games left to play.

- Even at 4-3, Redskins only one game behind best record in NFC (shared by several teams)

- Although they have a tough schedule, upcoming Eagles and Bucs games don’t look so scary after their performances this week. Also, the Redskins only have 1 division road game left and 3 division home games.

SeanTaylorsDefense
November-1st-2005, 12:24 AM
Yea, I agree with all that. I recall an Atlanta Falcon team walking into Tampa last year being heavily favored and then getting it handed to them in every aspect of the game. After that they were a different team and made it to the NFC Championship. We'll see

JoeKnowsBest
November-1st-2005, 02:03 AM
Asides from most of the Dallas game; this is the first game where we really have stunk up the place. I think in the long run- this type of loss; will actually help us. I'm sure noone- including the coaches will have an easy week this week. They will see what went wrong and hopefully correct it.

I see 2 winnable games the next 2 weeks. If we come out flat next week and lose- then this could turn into a long season. After the Bucs- a resurgent Raiders and Chargers are next. I think the Philly game is a must win for this team. It's needs to bounce back from a horrible performance and also take advantage of an Eagles team that clearly isn't the same team that has won the NFC EAST the last 4 years.


One thing from this game- Eli Manning is going to be giving us fits for more than a decade- so we better figure him out!

I totally agree. (Nice on the Eli point, too.)

I think what a lost like this does is wake you up. If you have any competitaveness about you like these players and coaches do, then it will motavate you to work harder and do better next time and regain your dignity after that humiating experience. The Giants loss was humbling experience and makes you realise how hard you have to work to win in this league and how thankful we should be to get those wins.

These types of wins happen to the best of them. They happen to all of them. In the last 5 years, they have happened to all the Superbowl winners by this pioint in the seasons.

flexxskins
November-1st-2005, 02:12 AM
Holy crap people, just one game!!!What was the point of your comment? This is a possitive thread with good points. Did you even bother reading it before you freaked out?

budski
November-1st-2005, 05:00 AM
Even the positive threads somehow turn negative.

Craig
November-1st-2005, 07:05 AM
If I have to read one more post on how this loss actually benefits this team I will throw up.

bbuzz1962
November-2nd-2005, 06:30 AM
Ther is NEVER a good loss. That is probably the most overated saying in professionall sports. A loss does no good to any team. Let's see how you feel about that statement at the end of the year, especially if there is any type of tiebreaker issues. This was a divisional loss, there is no worse loss than that. I understand your loyalty, but there is never a good loss.

Hail_Skinz
November-2nd-2005, 08:30 AM
What you people fail to recognize is whatever Joe Gibbs touches turns to gold. Whether it's football, NASCAR, or football again. For those of you that are throwinjg in the towel after one miserable loss...you have no faith and/or hope.

Yes, this was a tough divisional loss. However, I said it once before: We can feasibly SPLIT the remaining divisional games and lose one additional game to a non NFC opponent and end the season 10-6 and still get a wild card (don't forget we have the tie breaker against Seattle). We'd probably NOT win the division this way...but that is NOT the 'Skins goal. The 'Skins goal is to make the playoffs...and I still believe!!!!

:eaglesuck

JoeKnowsBest
November-3rd-2005, 04:59 AM
What you people fail to recognize is whatever Joe Gibbs touches turns to gold. Whether it's football, NASCAR, or football again. For those of you that are throwinjg in the towel after one miserable loss...you have no faith and/or hope.

Yes, this was a tough divisional loss. However, I said it once before: We can feasibly SPLIT the remaining divisional games and lose one additional game to a non NFC opponent and end the season 10-6 and still get a wild card (don't forget we have the tie breaker against Seattle). We'd probably NOT win the division this way...but that is NOT the 'Skins goal. The 'Skins goal is to make the playoffs...and I still believe!!!!

:eaglesuck


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Major Harris
November-3rd-2005, 05:04 AM
they did not come to play this game. and i was there, for my first nfl game, my birthday gift. it was bad.

OUCH.

i can't imagine that being the first time i saw my 'skins play live.

we should make a community effort to fly this man out to the cards game.

Woofer
November-3rd-2005, 05:19 AM
This was a big loss. It was not just one game, it was one BIG game.
But it's not the end of the season.

I can't help but think the Skins came out a little over-confident, and didn't come prepared to play as hard as they should have; so the point of having a positive affect may be valid in that the Skins learned a valuable lesson.

It's not the end of the season...that will come sometime in December or January.
Williams was asked once to describe Gibbs with one word.; the word he picked was "prideful".
I think that pride will lead this week to be a very hard week of practice and preparation. Gibbs won't let the team come out flat like that again.

skinsdude
November-3rd-2005, 02:56 PM
If I have to read one more post on how this loss actually benefits this team I will throw up.

I agree. The other one is "it was only one game".

RedsSKINS_7
November-3rd-2005, 03:21 PM
i agree

as much as i hate seeing the skins lose we can definatly try to learn form our mistakes

we will bounce back

rvan1
November-3rd-2005, 03:23 PM
if we can learn from it then yes, if not then no

Dallsux
November-3rd-2005, 03:31 PM
Asides from most of the Dallas game; this is the first game where we really have stunk up the place. I think in the long run- this type of loss; will actually help us. I'm sure noone- including the coaches will have an easy week this week. They will see what went wrong and hopefully correct it.

I see 2 winnable games the next 2 weeks. If we come out flat next week and lose- then this could turn into a long season. After the Bucs- a resurgent Raiders and Chargers are next. I think the Philly game is a must win for this team. It's needs to bounce back from a horrible performance and also take advantage of an Eagles team that clearly isn't the same team that has won the NFC EAST the last 4 years.


One thing from this game- Eli Manning is going to be giving us fits for more than a decade- so we better figure him out!


:eaglesuck :logo: :eaglesuck :logo: :eaglesuck :logo: :eaglesuck

Agreed. Although, I don't necessarily think this is a "must win" because Philthy is coming off an embarrassing loss themselves & allowed more points. Although, they did actually score. Plus, this is our first meeting with them, so we could still split the season with them IF they win this game.

But, one thing is for sure. Gibbs is not the kind of coach that would take a loss like that lightly. They WILL learn from their mistakes. We may not win this upcoming game, but I can't see Philthy putting up those kinds of numbers on us. With a depleted offense, they are gonna have a helluva time against our pissed off defense, eitherway...especially since this is a Skins home game. Bring on the 12th Man. Make them suffer!

:eaglesuck :logo: :eaglesuck :logo: :eaglesuck :logo: :eaglesuck

whatmeworry
November-3rd-2005, 06:04 PM
One thing from this game- Eli Manning is going to be giving us fits for more than a decade- so we better figure him out!

Actually if you look at Manning's stats we shut him down, What killed us was two long runs by Barber and FOUR turnovers. Plus an offense that couldn't get out of it's own way.

betsy thurman
November-3rd-2005, 07:54 PM
What a load of crap...nothing good will come from this...36-0? Are you kidding me? What good could posibly come from getting totally destroyed on both sides of the field? We got freakin Owned. Our morale is down the toilet and some of the Redskins are acting like they don't care. I really thought we had something but I got a reality check today...so much for our playoff run...this season is done...no wonder we are the laughing stock of the league. Brunell sucks, our D got ran all over, our only chance to win a game is to throw it up and hope Moss catches it, and I think that is gone now because teams are watching him. Sorry if I'm not stuck up in the clouds like some of you, but that really is how it is.


Forget Joe Gibbs, Tikki Barber is our new daddy
good thing you're not a die-hard fan , you sound so bad you'd probably hurt yourself if you were :doh: :banhim:

betsy thurman
November-3rd-2005, 07:59 PM
truer words have not been spoken!

they did not come to play this game. and i was there, for my first nfl game, my birthday gift. it was bad.

they are a much better team then they showed on sunday. but they have their work cut out for them this week, and i hope they have the heart to bounce back from this.

hail to the redskins!
thats a real stinker for a bday present -- sure hope the next one will be a nailbiter that leaves you screaming the entire game-- they are the best -- blowouts are o.k. but when its guts and dirt OMG -- thats football :point2sky

blackice7x
November-3rd-2005, 09:57 PM
Also by just getting the crap out of our system.

Epistopheles
November-3rd-2005, 10:03 PM
You are an idiot and should have your posting benefits REVOKED. Get out of here with that crap.

A brilliant statement with excellent points to back up your argument. Thank you for contributing so well and putting such tireless effort into raising the collective intelligence of this board.
:applause: :applause: :applause:

Tonerman
November-3rd-2005, 10:28 PM
truer words have not been spoken!

they did not come to play this game. and i was there, for my first nfl game, my birthday gift. it was bad.

they are a much better team then they showed on sunday. but they have their work cut out for them this week, and i hope they have the heart to bounce back from this.

hail to the redskins!

Quote: "i hope they have the heart"


That is the essence of whether or not the skins make a run. They have enough talent as they've clearly shown even in losing games in Denver and Kansas City. They had utterly no heart in New York. If any of the starters this week play the same way again then we need to let the third stringers and new guys play - they'll give it everything they have because they aren't playing with a multi-million dollar signing bonus in the bank to comfort them in a loss.