I hate Duke

[SkinsHokieFan]

I hate Mike Shaiwhy;lkhkey

I hate those silly Cameron Fans

I hate JJ Reddick

I hate their colors

I hate their stupid chants

And I am sure Duke hates me also

That is all

[FightForOldDC21]

there a bunch of losers

[airborneskins]

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!! :cheers:

[Redskin4ever]

The name of this thread says it all.

[TheDoyler23]

Plus their football team gets waxed by 35 every game, too.

[GritzRgreat]

Duke is God's gift to Basketball
this team is loaded man
how can someone hate
he best fans in collage
basketball?

envy is a deadly sin.

[Skins4SB]

They have all this talent, the best coach in college basketball, yet they really haven't done much the past few years in terms of winning National Championships. Swept by UMD team that was inconsistent. Duke's arrogance is their downfall.

[SkinsForLife260]

Md is gonna sweep them again!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RedsSKINS_7]

duke rocks there my homies


Gooooooooooo Duke

there schoolin you in b-ball
eat it

[honorary_hog]

Duke is God's gift to Basketball
this team is loaded man
how can someone hate
he best fans in collage
basketball?

envy is a deadly sin.


Haha. As bad as Maryland was last year, I believe we :owned: you! Mwahaha!

[Warhead36]

Is it just me or is Coach K as overrated as they come?

I'd much rather have Gary Williams.

[REDPepper]

it's just you... look at the guys coach k has brought in... he made duke what it is today

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Gary Willams does more with less every year. Give coach K the players Gary gets and lets see if he can do as good.
It can't be too hard to win when you recruit 6 High School All Americans every year.
Hopefully another sweep this season. Go Terps

[FightForOldDC21]

when u guys beat us then u can talk

[SkinsHokieFan]

NM, bad post

[PapaDRoc]

Best Thread Ever!!!! :laugh:

O yea.....I HATE DUKE TOO :cheers:

[REDPepper]

Gary Willams does more with less every year. Give coach K the players Gary gets and lets see if he can do as good.
It can't be too hard to win when you recruit 6 High School All Americans every year.
Hopefully another sweep this season. Go Terps

are you kidding me? there's a reason coach k has the players he does, and no, it's not the duke name, it's HIM. He made duke the team to be on... he made it was it is...

[jamgrass]

Bunch of spoiled rich choir boys that will get their asses stomped by the HOYAS this year.

[The Guru]

Gary Willams does more with less every year. Give coach K the players Gary gets and lets see if he can do as good.
It can't be too hard to win when you recruit 6 High School All Americans every year.
Hopefully another sweep this season. Go Terps

Gary Williams is a better coach than K because he can't recruit as well? Isn't recruiting part of the criteria for a good coach?

Also, Jamgrass is right about the Hoyas http://extremeskins.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[PapaDRoc]

Gary Williams is a better coach than K because he can't recruit as well? Isn't recruiting part of the criteria for a good coach?

How can Gary Williams not recruit well when the foundation of his national championship team was made up of guys that were not highly recruited if at all coming out of high school?

Juan Dixon not recruited (too small)
Lonny Baxter not recruited (too fat)
Steve Blake not recruited
Byron Mouton not recruited

If he saw championship potential in players that no other coach would touch, then that sounds like pretty good recruiting to me.

[The Guru]

How can Gary Williams not recruit well when the foundation of his national championship team was made up of guys that were not highly recruited if at all coming out of high school?

Juan Dixon not recruited (too small)
Lonny Baxter not recruited (too fat)
Steve Blake not recruited
Byron Mouton not recruited

If he saw championship potential in players that no other coach would touch, then that sounds like pretty good recruiting to me.

Thats not recruiting, thats coaching. Gary Williams picked guys that nobody else wanted and made them into players. I never said Gary Williams wasn't a good coach, I said he wasn't a good recruiter. The previous poster implied that coach K wasn't a very good coach. He said that anybody could win with a bunch of All-Americans. But getting players is half of a coach's job.

Gary Williams is a good coach, but he is not a good recruiter. He can't get the 5 star players, he has to get guys with more flaws. Dixon, Baxter, Blake, and Mouton were not hard to get, In fact, they were probably not Gary's first options. He did a great job to make those players into what they are, but that does not make him a good recruiter.

Meanwhile, Coach K brings in highly touted guys every year and turns that into on court success. (Obviously Duke is a much more accomplished program compared to Maryland)

Im not saying Gary isn't a good coach, because he is, but Coach K is much better.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

How can you say someone is MUCH better when he re-loads High School All Americans every year and loses to a team that doesn't.
Gary does more with less talent, just admit that. Did i ever say Gary Willams was better than Coach K.... Nope sure didn't! I'm just making a point that it can't be to hard to have a top program ever year when you get the best high school players in the country.
Wouldn't you think Duke would have the more recent NCAA Championship with all that talent?

[badintentions]

i hate duke too...i hate stupid coach k...i hate all there fag players accept JJ Redick, Sheldon Williams, and Lee Melchionni...Memphis should have won that NIT finals...the dumb blind ref and his BS call!!!

[badintentions]

Bunch of spoiled rich choir boys that will get their asses stomped by the HOYAS this year.

hey i like the hoyas too...although i live in Hawaii:(
but i got to watch the hoyas play when they came to hawaii last year to play in the Rainbow Classic Tournament:D ....and damn they were good...they regulated Clemson

and daaaaaaymn Brandon Bowmen is a heck of a player:cheers: ...he had a good game!!!i loved watching the hoyas play...that was the best basketball game ive ever seen in person!!!:)

[The Guru]

How can you say someone is MUCH better when he re-loads High School All Americans every year and loses to a team that doesn't.
Gary does more with less talent, just admit that. Did i ever say Gary Willams was better than Coach K.... Nope sure didn't! I'm just making a point that it can't be to hard to have a top program ever year when you get the best high school players in the country.
Wouldn't you think Duke would have the more recent NCAA Championship with all that talent?

Coach K is much better than Gary Williams because Duke has much more on court success. Maryland did a good job agaisnt Duke last year, but as a whole, you can't argue that Maryland is a better program. Coach K is better because his teams win more. It's that simple.

[santanamoss89]

Go Duke!!!

[PapaDRoc]

Go Duke!!!
You are disgusting. :laugh:

[mjah]

how can someone hate
he best fans in collage
basketball?
Nobody's hating on the best fans in college basketball -- we're talking about Duke fans here.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Coach K is much better than Gary Williams because Duke has much more on court success. Maryland did a good job agaisnt Duke last year, but as a whole, you can't argue that Maryland is a better program. Coach K is better because his teams win more. It's that simple.

I'm gonna disagree and say he in not MUCH better, Coach K could very well be a better coach than Gary but no by alot. Coach K has coached 8 more years at Duke than Gary at UMD so you really can't compare. A average coach (which you think Gary Williams is) doesn't win a National Championship or goes to back to back Final Four's. I never said Maryland was a better program, are you making up stuff??? :rolleyes:
Who won the last National Championship and who won the series last year??? Not Duke and not Duke so shadddup :laugh: !

[PapaDRoc]

how can someone hate
he best fans in collage
basketball?
O you mean the bandwagoners that make up half of your fan base???

Bottom Line: Duke has not beaten Maryland in a year and a half. 0 for the last 3.

[The Guru]

Coach K has coached 8 more years at Duke than Gary at UMD so you really can't compare.

Gary has been at Maryland for 16 years, That is a sufficient amount of time.

A average coach (which you think Gary Williams is) doesn't win a National Championship or goes to back to back Final Four's.

No, I made it clear that I think he is a good coach. In fact, I repeated that at least 3 times.

I never said Maryland was a better program, are you making up stuff??? http://extremeskins.com/forums/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

I never said you did.

Who won the last National Championship and who won the series last year??? Not Duke and not Duke so shadddup http://extremeskins.com/forums/images/smilies/laugh.gif

Duke has 3 championships. Maryland has 1. In head to head matchups, Duke has 99 wins. Maryland has 58. You can continue to ignore history and focus on Marylands terrific NIT season last year, but Duke is better. Sorry.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Did I ever say Maryland was better than Duke??
Or did I ever say Gary was better than Coach K?
Nope on both of those.
My point is your not giving Gary or Maryland enough credit when they beat and finish better than Duke. If I was a Duke fan I think it would be unacceptable to lose to a team when they have better players and coaches year in and year out.

[The Guru]

My point is your not giving Gary or Maryland enough credit when they beat and finish better than Duke. out.

Congratulations, Maryland is great. Really, they are just terrific.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Congratulations, Maryland is great. Really, they are just terrific.

Wow you sound like one bitter Dukie :laugh:

[The Guru]

I'm a Hoyas fan, I hate Duke. I'm just not a blind homer like you.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Oh your a long suffering Gtown fan, Sorry about that :D
Not a blind homer just informing you on a great coach in college park
You can take your Coach K goggles off now :cool:

[jamgrass]

Well duke still sucks. Hell, even North Carolinians hate duke.

[PapaDRoc]

Well duke still sucks. Hell, even North Carolinians hate duke.
Gee I wonder why that is........ :rolleyes:

[TerpsEagles]

Coach K is much better than Gary Williams because Duke has much more on court success. Maryland did a good job agaisnt Duke last year, but as a whole, you can't argue that Maryland is a better program. Coach K is better because his teams win more. It's that simple.

It's not "that" simple. I respect Coach K a great deal, and their program. I don't like them one bit, but I respect them. So I'm not slamming coach K or Duke in anyway here...

As for Gary, I notice that some of you posting in this thread are 15 years old and up.... Do some of you guys know what was REALLY going on at Maryland when Gary took over 17 years ago ? I mean REALLY know ?

The program that Gary inherited had won 7 ACC games in the past 3 years. 7 IN THREE YEARS.

When Gary took over, a lot of the suspensions and sanctions coming MD's way, of NO FAULT of Gary, hadn't been given out yet... and when Gary finally realized the scope of them, he has said that he probably wouldn't have taken the job had he known up front the severity of the "program death penalty" they were about to be given. BTW, thanks Bob Wade. *$#(*%$#($*#()%

Bias had just passed away a few years earlier and there was a huge dark cloud over this program. It hit about as low as a program could hit... . hell, maybe lower.

The sanctions were harsh... not saying they weren't justified... but Gary did nothing other than inherit them...

-Major reduction in scholarships
-No Televised games for 2 YEARS
-No Postseason play allowed for 2 YEARS.

you think that might hurt your recruiting a little ?

And with everything that he had to deal with, proceeded to turn the Terps into a Perennial powehouse and National Champion
11 NCAA tourney berths in the last 12 years
7 Sweet 16 appearances
Back to back Final Fours
2002 National Championship
5th winningest active coach in Division 1.

Also, don't forget that he took 3 different programs to the NCAA tourney.. He got B.C. in once I believe, and he got Ohio State in once...

So again, it's not just "that simple" . Coach K is a great coach, no doubt. Would he have built that program had he been forced to start out w/ the sanctions that Gary had to endure.... who knows ?

[PapaDRoc]

It's not "that" simple. I respect Coach K a great deal, and their program. I don't like them one bit, but I respect them. So I'm not slamming coach K or Duke in anyway here...

As for Gary, I notice that some of you posting in this thread are 15 years old and up.... Do some of you guys know what was REALLY going on at Maryland when Gary took over 17 years ago ? I mean REALLY know ?

The program that Gary inherited had won 7 ACC games in the past 3 years. 7 IN THREE YEARS.

When Gary took over, a lot of the suspensions and sanctions coming MD's way, of NO FAULT of Gary, hadn't been given out yet... and when Gary finally realized the scope of them, he has said that he probably wouldn't have taken the job had he known up front the severity of the "program death penalty" they were about to be given. BTW, thanks Bob Wade. *$#(*%$#($*#()% Bias had just passed away a few years earlier and there was a huge dark cloud over this program. It hit about as low as a program could hit... . hell, maybe lower.

The sanctions were harsh... not saying they weren't justified... but Gary did nothing other than inherit them...

-Major reduction in scholarships
-No Televised games for 2 YEARS
-No Postseason play allowed for 2 YEARS.

you think that might hurt your recruiting a little ?

And with everything that he had to deal with, proceeded to turn the Terps into a Perennial powehouse and National Champion
11 NCAA tourney berths in the last 12 years
7 Sweet 16 appearances
Back to back Final Fours
2002 National Championship
5th winningest active coach in Division 1.

Also, don't forget that he took 3 different programs to the NCAA tourney.. He got B.C. in once I believe, and he got Ohio State in once...

So again, it's not just "that simple" . Coach K is a great coach, no doubt. Would he have built that program had he been forced to start out w/ the sanctions that Gary had to endure.... who knows ?
I actually did know all of that, I read his book... :D

[The Guru]

Hey, great post. I didn't know the program was so bad when he first came. I still think Coach K is better, because he has been able to take his team to the next level and keep it there, while after Gary's championship the team regressed a little. But anyway, I have gained some newfound respect for the job Gary has done, even though I still think K is better.

[TerpsEagles]

Hey, great post. I didn't know the program was so bad when he first came. I still think Coach K is better, because he has been able to take his team to the next level and keep it there, while after Gary's championship the team regressed a little. But anyway, I have gained some newfound respect for the job Gary has done, even though I still think K is better.

fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion and many across the nation would share yours. Like I said, I respect Coach K immensly. Duke v MD games are some of the best games to watch the past 5 years or so. Just wanted shed some light on what Gary really had to deal with...

Those 2 whole years of no TV games at all, and banned from any and all postseason play, unfortunately for Gary, were '89, and '90, I think

So while the high school talent couldn't see a Terps game, regular or post season, for 2 years unless they were there at the game, Duke was in the middle of a stretch where they were in the Final Four for something crazy like 5 years straight... '88-'92, with '91 and '92 being Nat'l Championship years for Duke....

imagine trying to compete for recruits in that situation and trying to build a program ....

[santanamoss89]

I Love Duke