Designated "Season's Over!" Thread (MERGED x10)

[Mackdaddydean]

No excuses we suck. Considering our performance here is the rest of the season for you guys so you dont have to watch pitful football and can find something better to do on Sunday

Chargers L
St Louis L
Arizona W
Dallas L
NY L
Philly W

Enjoy.

[#1SkinsFan]

we are 5-5 with 6 games left, and it happens. every team losses to a sucky team like the radiers. we just got ours today. The giants had theirs last week against the vikings. This team has to keep its head up. This season is far from over.

[forbeskin]

I usually don't post like this, but after watching today and our stagnant offense, this is the end of the road for us. Sure we will probably pick up a few more wins, but all we will be playing for now is pride. From Brunell to the tackles, tight ends, fumbles, etc. We are still a ways away from being contenders, we have def. gone in a positive direction from the last couple of seasons, but we are still a work in progress. I can only hope we can draft some Dline help or pick up somebody in free agency. I hope Campbell is ready as well, I like Brunell, but has cost us just as many games if not more than he has won us. Next year will be better. I am not a fair weather fan, just trying to be a realistic one.

[Paleriders]

....congratulations to all of us today...we now know where we stand...we suck...horrible playcalling...no runs by cp in what seems like the whole second half even though he was on his way to 130 day at halftime...nice job Joe

We had no heart today. The skins are now done. We don't deserve any playoff talk or anything the rest of the year. I predict we will only three more games this year and give the Broncos a great pick.

Thanks skins you have just freed up the rest of my Sunday afternoons.

Until next year guys, I wish all extremeskins and their families happy and safe holidays. Spend your Sunday's with those who you love and happy New Year to you all.

Thanks and god bless.

[cyfar]

I wouldn't be shocked if the Skins run the table, but it would be hard for us to get into the playoffs the way Dallas and NY are playing. Not giving up on them just yet but being realistic.

[Taylor 21]

i hate to say it but the chances of us getting into the playoffs is unlikely

[SeanTaylorsDefense]

I agree 100% We'll get a couple of more wins, and we'll be trying to get an 8-8 season. I hope we fix these holes in the off season.

[aolforbroadband]

The season's over. Right now I'm just hoping for 9-7 or 8-8.

How do some fans expect us to run the table when we haven't won back-to-back games since the very beginning of the season?

[Opiate-Zeo]

I agree, this loss will put us just out of the playoffs

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

We're two games out of the wildcard spot with 6 games left. That's a HUGE load to overcome. We'll need to win five of the last six and tell me which five we win? Especially the way we played today. I've lived and died with this team for 27 seasons and have never lost the hunger to see them play each Sunday no matter how bad they were. I'm afraid I've finnaly maxed out my nine lives. I can't bear to watch this ship sink any longer. I avoided sports channels on the radio and TV all week over being SO bitter from last week. I wanted to watch today thinking we could redeem ourselves. We lost to a bad team today and it seems like every team we play now has to have a sidebar storyline "Giants win for Mara", "Chris Simms breaks out", "Norv beats his old team", blah, blah, blah. Now next week we have to deal with the Marty love fest from the annuncers. I hate what this team makes me feel like. I almost enjoy the offseason and the anticipation even more than the regular season.

[SkinsTillIDie]

You can make all of the excuses you want, you can blame anyone you want - the refs, the coaches, the quarterback - but it is a team effort to lose 5 of the last 7.

Good teams find ways to win games, bad teams find ways to lose them.

We are a bad team. Thats the bottom line.

[akorn22]

Well, good bye dude. I don;t know what to say, i've been a loyal fan for 14 years and this is how they keep re-paying me.

[Whiskeypeet]

Its funny.

After games like this their are so many useless threads posted on the front page its impossible to have a dicussion with anyone.

Congratulations for adding to the mess.

[capitolpunishment]

Yes, It's OVER! We are once again looking at next year with the same problems and No 1st round draft pick! :mad:

[macnoke03]

I have absolutely had it with this team. They completely stink all the way around. Horrible coaching, play calling, players, execution, all of it stinks. Lets throw to Taylor Jacobs every other play on a go route down the left side when he is blanketed with coverage. Excellent calls coach. Some will say our defense played well only give up 16 to a good offense, BS. We left Jordan and the other running backs wide open on every play. We let Gabriel run down the sideline completely by himself for a huge gain. Ive tried my hardest every year to stick with them and look at the bright side but I have had it. What a miserable team all the way around.

[TheLongshot]

If I remember correctly, we do have six games to play. :doh:

Yes, we probably aren't going to the playoffs. That being said, we are not eliminated from the playoffs, and we still have stuff to play for. While this is disappointing, I have accepted weeks ago that this isn't a playoff team, and that we'd be fortunate to be in the playoffs.

So, let's be thankful that we are 5-5 at this point, and that we only need a couple of victories to improve from last year.

Jason

[Phat Hog]

I wouldn't be shocked if the Skins run the table, but it would be hard for us to get into the playoffs the way Dallas and NY are playing. Not giving up on them just yet but being realistic.

Big difference between us an Dallas/NY is that they step up when they need a win...we don't.

[PA Skin Fan]

This team is mired in mediocrity. The best we can hope for at this point is a few more wins - like you said probably 8-8 at best.

The big problems? Too many turnovers (every game they abound), the pass rush is among the worst I've seen as a Skin fan - it's amazing the defense is as good as it is when the rush is SOOOOO bad, and the playing not to lose mentality - the scared mentality that seems to come from the top down unfortunately.

[Brother Redskin]

the way I see it is that we need to win 5 or 6 of our last 6 games to have any chance to get in to the playoffs. I will hope for the best but the losses this week and last really hurt our chances of getting in.

[J-Rad]

See ya. Don't let the door hit your a** on the way out. And you better not be back if the Skins turn it around, otherwise you're going to get called out big time.

[dfitzo53]

I don't understand the point of your post. Are you standing up and proclaiming yourself a fair-weather fan? Generally that's seen as a bad thing...

[Califan007]

Want some more sobering stats??...Over the last four games:

Brunell:
69/124
56% completion rate
670 yds
167.5 ypg
2 TDs
3 INTs
4 Fumbles

Moss:
19 receptions
245 yds
61 ypg
12.89 ypc
0 TDs

Offense:
263 ypg

Defense:
350 ypg

The defense is giving up close to 100 yards per game more than the offense...

[IONTOP]

Until next year guys

I wouldn't mind if you didn't come back, I mean if you are just going to give up on "Your team" give me a break...

[Sarge]

Please don't come back

[skinsrevival]

This is so sickening to watch. The Raiders have a horrible defense and all we can do is muster up 13 points!! I agree. The way the Cowboys and Giants are playing we're finished. I don't see us running the table. I think we'll finish 9-7 but that won't get us in. We had to beat the Raiders, there's no excuse.
:puke:

[bbuzz1962]

This was a joke. I cannot believe this is the same team we have watched all year. Oh yeah, the Giants. Well, we blew it. The Giants and Cowboys have won today which have basically shut us out of the playoffs. Clinton Portis had the nerve to chastise the turnovers last week, and was the biggest problem today.

No offensive touchdown. How in the hell do you not score a touchdown against the f'n Raiders?? We have seen the real Redskins, I do not believe that Brunell is going to make it from hear on out. Trust me. He looked horrible, the defensive line was embarrased and the secondary was scorched again. Do we even have a defensive line? They are pittifull as well. Don't tell me the Raiders were a good football team Joe, they aren't. Your team sucks, they didn't show up, this was the biggest game of the season due to your other losses that shouldn't have happened.

I think the worst thing is, we have enlightend all the neysayers that didn't believe we were for real and we would falter. We are faltered, and bad. When a 3-6 football team can figure out how to beat you and do, well the season is over.

I look forward to everyone of you scorching me for this post, saying I am not a real fan, boo hoo boo hoo. I call it like I see it, and we were beat by a losing team who has no respect in the NFL. So you can kiss my rear end, this team now sucks, and there will be no team respecting the Redskins from this day on. The Chargers will kick this teams ass, and if anyone wants to wager this, email me.

[RF4L]

We're two games out of the wildcard spot with 6 games left. That's a HUGE load to overcome. We'll need to win five of the last six and tell me which five we win? Especially the way we played today. I've lived and died with this team for 27 seasons and have never lost the hunger to see them play each Sunday no matter how bad they were. I'm afraid I've finnaly maxed out my nine lives. I can't bear to watch this ship sink any longer. I avoided sports channels on the radio and TV all week over being SO bitter from last week. I wanted to watch today thinking we could redeem ourselves. We lost to a bad team today and it seems like every team we play now has to have a sidebar storyline "Giants win for Mara", "Chris Simms breaks out", "Norv beats his old team", blah, blah, blah. Now next week we have to deal with the Marty love fest from the annuncers. I hate what this team makes me feel like. I almost enjoy the offseason and the anticipation even more than the regular season.

I feel exactly the same way. :(

[NAILBOMB9]

You gotta believe though...haha...the only thing you can believe is that the Skins are WAY overrated and have no idea how to execute on either side of the ball. Funny how everyone was on the Brunell bandwagon when most new he wasn't going to keep it up, and how everyone was saying that LaVar was a selfish player. Well, I think now we can agree that LaVar is definately LaVar and Brunell is done and so is LaVar's stay in Washington due to paying "BOO" nell that stupid ***** contract. Oh, you can thank Brunell for Smoot being in Minny and Pierce being in NY too. Can't sign your "core" Skins when you're overpaying a has-been QB

[redskins0213@comcast.net]

Lets just hope that Walt Harris DIES and the Offensive and Defensive lines get in a car accident! They are all terrible! Maybe next year (but hey i live near Philly)

[KillaCam21]

I say we just dedicate our season to injuring as many NFC Easy opponents as possible. Because we wont be in the playoffs, we might as well not let them do anything when they get in the playoffs. Sean Taylor needs to start going for the kill shot on every tackle.

[terpfan]

I try to be optimistic, but the season is over guys. We dont desevre to be in the playoffs anyway. There is no way we win 5 of the last 6.

Ive got from angry to just depressed. This years team really broke my heart.

[sircharlz]

....congratulations to all of us today...we now know where we stand...we suck...horrible playcalling...no runs by cp in what seems like the whole second half even though he was on his way to 130 day at halftime...nice job Joe

We had no heart today. The skins are now done. We don't deserve any playoff talk or anything the rest of the year. I predict we will only three more games this year and give the Broncos a great pick.

Thanks skins you have just freed up the rest of my Sunday afternoons.

Until next year guys, I wish all extremeskins and their families happy and safe holidays. Spend your Sunday's with those who you love and happy New Year to you all.

Thanks and god bless.


True fans don't jump on/off the bandwagon. True fans are out front pulling the wagon. Go ahead and jump off - just remember that when you want to hop on for another ride, you sit in the very back. True fans don't want you to savor any type of success we get.

[drone007]

i cant believe you guys call yourselves fans of the redskins. please stop watching them and just go route for indianapolis or whoever the hot team is right now. please, get out of here. :doh:

it's one thing to offer intelligent criticism of the team in hopes of constructive response, but to just say we suck and you're 'not gonna take it anymore'... cool man, none of the real fans care. :applause:

[skinsmania123]

Califan, I think your post is the most intelligent. It tells me Brunell needs to come out of the game. IF Gibb's does not look at these facts he will stick with Brunell. It would not hurt to put Ramsey in right now if Mark is hurt. Those stats are like last year. I think he is not 100%.

[TLusby]

No excuses we suck. Considering our performance here is the rest of the season for you guys so you dont have to watch pitful football and can find something better to do on Sunday

Chargers L
St Louis L
Arizona W
Dallas L
NY L
Philly W

Enjoy.

You suck! You suck as a fan and appear to be a Cowboy fan in sheeps clothing.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Lets just hope that Walt Harris DIES and the Offensive and Defensive lines get in a car accident! They are all terrible! Maybe next year (but hey i live near Philly)
Damn!! I wouldn't go that far! :doh: Let's just hope we can make improvements on these positions and Rogers is ready to start.

[aolforbroadband]

This loss was pretty pathetic, especially considering Norv's teams had the reputation of losing close games.

This is getting really sad, and yes, the season is over. We're not running the table, and anything higher than 9-7 is unrealistic at this point.

[Doctor ToughLove]

See ya. Don't let the door hit your a** on the way out. And you better not be back if the Skins turn it around, otherwise you're going to get called out big time.

:applause: I'm taking down names, too. Count me in to the end.

Folks, the Redskins are on the outside looking in playoff-wise, buuuuuuut it is not over until it is over!

[redskins0213@comcast.net]

Just a knee jerk reaction ive been a fan since 1972 and this is driving me crazy. As far as pulling the bandwagon i doubt that you could tie my shoes. If you have been alive or an active fan (bandwagooneer longer than i ) please accept my apologies!

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I don't think people are jumping off the bandwagon. Like I said I've never left this team in 27 years and don't plan to now. I just get sick of watching disappointing performances year after year after year but it hurts worse this year more than ever. Just because people aren't going "rah rah guys! We can do it" doesn't mean people are bailing. They just get sick of seeing the same crap for 13 years now. My nerves are shot after games like this and I feel like garbage for 3-4 days after losses like this. I can't get the most out of my job and my life when I'm moping around over a stupid game. This is why I get sick of being disappointed and would feel better on my nerves if today was just January 5th and it all be over.

[skinsmania123]

Califan, I think your post is the most intelligent. It tells me Brunell needs to come out of the game. IF Gibb's does not look at these facts he will stick with Brunell. It would not hurt to put Ramsey in right now if Mark is hurt. Those stats are like last year. I think he is not 100%.

[Hail_Skinz]

...sorry to say (as much as it hurts): 7-9 8-8 at best

Let's think with our heads and not our hearts, folks...

:mad:

[REDPepper]

how do you figure 8-8 at best when we are 5-5 and have 6 games left ??

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Just a knee jerk reaction ive been a fan since 1972 and this is driving me crazy. As far as pulling the bandwagon i doubt that you could tie my shoes. If you have been alive or an active fan (bandwagooneer longer than i ) please accept my apologies!
Understand the kneejerk reaction. I agree that people like you and I that have hung with this team since the 70s shouldn't be called out. We're all talking out of our asses right now. But as I said I'd get more enjoyment if I took up a nerd hobby. Time to head to WalMart to buy some model cars! Best therapy I could think of. :)

[Hail_Skinz]

Um...excuse me...have you been watching the same team as I have?

The Skins are WAAAAAY to inconsistent to make ANY kind of push at this point.

How do you put 35 pointsup againt the No 1 rated defense (on the road ) one week...and get embarassed at home the following week by one of the leagues worst?

C'mon..let's be realistic.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

how do you figure 8-8 at best when we are 5-5 and have 6 games left ??
Mathematics. 3+3=6 games

[flashback]

we are 5-5 with 6 games left, and it happens. every team losses to a sucky team like the radiers. we just got ours today. The giants had theirs last week against the vikings. This team has to keep its head up. This season is far from over.

I agree. The Cowboys had theirs in week 2. :D

[KillaCam21]

I agree. The Cowboys had theirs in week 2. :D

Can't disagree with that.

[skinthemboys]

W'ell Finish 11-5....WooooooHoooooo! Lets go SKINS. I'll never give up on my team. I guess all you fair weather fans can go ahead and get your carolina panthers gear, and get the hell out of here.

[Jrew1223]

Im sorry.... im a life long fan and ive always had the skins backs when our tactics have come into question.... im the one who always defends the team during adversity... but guys im sorry to say that what more is there to defend? the 2005 Washington Redskins are a bad team.... The Redskins break my heart every year... its like being in an abusive relationship... you just keep coming back....ugh

comments?

[michael_33]

1)Playoff teams don't continually committ turnovers game after game...

2)playoff teams play to win the game,not play not to lose...

3)playoff teams make adjustments to whatever or whenever a problem presents itself,even if it means making changes in the lineup (offense or defense) in the GAME!!Not 2,3 or 8 weeks later...

4)Playoff teams find a way to win the Game,regardless of the circumstances...

5)Playoff teams don't yank their probowler off the field on a regular basis and every game on third down situatuations unless there is an excellent reason to do so,or to prevent further injury or whatever...

6)playoff teams don't committ stupid penalties that can hurt the team on the field for personal gain...

7)Playoff teams USE their challenges...Specially,when there are critical plays or situations that can possibly change the momentum of the game...

8)Playoff teams play consistent football!Not a good game here,bad game there,good game here and so on...

9)Playoff teams also take chances...sometimes a huge risk is required to have great reward...!(see reason #2)

10)Playoff teams actually win enough games to make the playoffs. Usually at least 9 wins,but sometimes requires 10 wins as well...!

I sure glad for Gibbs sake,these are not the 10 Commandments...He would be in trouble!

I am very angry and very disappointed in this team!!

[SamSneed36]

we might be back at 6-10 by the end of the season, no better than 7-9.

[randythesofine]

ummmmmmm, you are right?

[dcoles11]

Im sorry.... im a life long fan and ive always had the skins backs when our tactics have come into question.... im the one who always defends the team during adversity... but guys im sorry to say that what more is there to defend? the 2005 Washington Redskins are a bad team.... The Redskins break my heart every year... its like being in an abusive relationship... you just keep coming back....ugh

comments?

We aren't building for the future we doing everything we can do to stick with old guys that will bring us 8-8 seasons.

Its sad like you say, we might not make the playoffs until 2010.

[GO GO SKINS]

I'm close too it as well

[heyholetsgogrant]

We aren't building for the future we doing everything we can do to stick with old guys that will bring us 8-8 seasons.

Its sad like you say, we might not make the playoffs until 2010.

That may actually be true, Instead of developing a young Franchise QB, other teams in our divison and league will be doing. The Giants and Eagles do, and im sure the Cowboys will have one soon as well. We better pray that Campbell is that answer, cause your right e may not make it for a while.

-Grant

[Rypien11]

Bet the Kool Aid bucket is getting dry.
Come out on every who thinks there is still a chance.
This is not a good football team.
It is a team that lives on heroics making up for its mistakes.
If the mistakes were not made then there would not be the need for Heroics.
This is not a playoff team, hell this is not even a team that will win the division.
To all the pepole who really think all the fumbles, the throw aways's, the giving up of big plays is going to just disappear I say drink a little deeper in from the Kool Aid barrell.
I am firmaly rooted in reality, the Skins are just not a very good team.
Come to grips with that fact.

[NorthCarolinaRedskin]

I'm sick of our coaches and players over-praising other teams, closing eyes during field goals and 4th downs, and and not going for it on 4th and inches. Its taking away my confidence, your confidence, their confidence, ... EVERYBODY'S CONFIDENCE. They don't believe in themselves.

This is today's Joe Gibbs football.

It is up to him to change the atmosphere and attitude of the team... I don't like hearing "We can beat anybody and anybody can beat us". I don't like seeing him kneeling over with his eyes closed, as if we can't make a big play. And I don't like punting it on 4th and inches. We would have converted on 4th down. If you don't believe we would have, then you are part of the problem of the new Joe Gibbs football. NO CONFIDENCE. I believe in Gibbs and I think he can turn it around. But it all starts with him opening his eyes during field goals, expecting to win and not hoping for breaks, and getting "crazy" when it comes to play-calling every once in a while. Just another lesson for Joe in his return. He knows how to win and he will be the guy to get it done. He will get back to Old Joe Gibbs football, and when he does, we will start winning by 14+ points to teams that are awful such as Oakland and Tampa Bay.

[Painkiller]

I hate to say it, but I have to agree with you. Up until today, I wouldn't have, but the proof is in the pudding.

[SonnyRules]

2)playoff teams play to win the game,not play not to lose

The offense played with no emotion or sense of purpose today.

Our defense played well in spots, but our pass rush is simply not there.

[michael_33]

11)Funny thing is....we finally start off right by winning the division games and then this crap happens...!!!

[Moz Wanted]

iam not really surprised its been 2 seasons since we beat a AFC team we get owned by AFC so we will lose to chargers too and win the rest of the games

[redskin81]

This team is what Joe Gibbs has said each week. They are not that good or that bad. Granted today leaned towards the bad. I tend to be in the middle here. Those of you who claim that we are a playoff bound team need to pump the brakes. Playoff teams dont come out and fall apart as we didi today on BOTH sides of the line. (I mean really im gonna send a resume over to Redskins park. I can not block the defenders with the best of them.) But those of you who keep saying that we totally suck are wrong. We are much better this year, injuires have really slowed us down though.

[DCMONEY]

Bottom line is if Portis fumbles one less time the Skins in all likely hood win.

[Phat Hog]

All good points Michael...too bad for us.

[Warhead36]

Yep.

Our team has a whole needs to grow a pair.

[dcoles11]

I'm sick of our coaches and players over-praising other teams, closing eyes during field goals and 4th downs, and and not going for it on 4th and inches. Its taking away my confidence, your confidence, their confidence, ... EVERYBODY'S CONFIDENCE. They don't believe in themselves.

This is today's Joe Gibbs football.

It is up to him to change the atmosphere and attitude of the team... I don't like hearing "We can beat anybody and anybody can beat us". I don't like seeing him kneeling over with his eyes closed, as if we can't make a big play. And I don't like punting it on 4th and inches. We would have converted on 4th down. If you don't believe we would have, then you are part of the problem of the new Joe Gibbs football. NO CONFIDENCE. I believe in Gibbs and I think he can turn it around. But it all starts with him opening his eyes during field goals, expecting to win and not hoping for breaks, and getting "crazy" when it comes to play-calling every once in a while. Just another lesson for Joe in his return. He knows how to win and he will be the guy to get it done. He will get back to Old Joe Gibbs football, and when he does, we will start winning by 14+ points to teams that are awful such as Oakland and Tampa Bay.

I too am disgusted when he dosen't even have the stomache to watch a play, what is with closing your eyes?? My god act like you are better than someone and you expect to win, this down on your knees with your eyes closed stuff is getting old.

Anybody else notice that our offense is alot better when we are behind? Gibbs gets a 7 point lead and starts playing ball control in the damn 2nd quarter. If its tied or were down by a score or 2 we open it up and move the ball, like against Tampa Bay last week. We get up 13-3 on Oakland and we basically wait around for them to come back on us. Go for the throat you chicken ***t, you know like what you should have done on 3rd down and 2 last week vs Tampa Bay.

Gibbs has no killer instinct and its evident is his play calling and his girlish actions on the side lines with the eye closing .

[sith lord]

I agree with everything the original poster said.

[Spaceman Spiff]

We constantly play down to the teams we're up against. Pathetic.

[Bugster2k]

we are 5-5 with 6 games left, and it happens. every team losses to a sucky team like the radiers. we just got ours today. The giants had theirs last week against the vikings. This team has to keep its head up. This season is far from over.

I beleive we can still salvage the season, but we better start protecting whoever is QB, and our corners have to cover closer than 8 yards off. They also need to get back to tackling, not just hitting, and expecting the opposing player to Fumble or go down....

[AJ_Skins]

I'm sick of our coaches and players over-praising other teams, closing eyes during field goals and 4th downs, and and not going for it on 4th and inches. Its taking away my confidence, your confidence, their confidence, ... EVERYBODY'S CONFIDENCE. They don't believe in themselves.

This is today's Joe Gibbs football.

It is up to him to change the atmosphere and attitude of the team... I don't like hearing "We can beat anybody and anybody can beat us". I don't like seeing him kneeling over with his eyes closed, as if we can't make a big play. And I don't like punting it on 4th and inches. We would have converted on 4th down. If you don't believe we would have, then you are part of the problem of the new Joe Gibbs football. NO CONFIDENCE. I believe in Gibbs and I think he can turn it around. But it all starts with him opening his eyes during field goals, expecting to win and not hoping for breaks, and getting "crazy" when it comes to play-calling every once in a while. Just another lesson for Joe in his return. He knows how to win and he will be the guy to get it done. He will get back to Old Joe Gibbs football, and when he does, we will start winning by 14+ points to teams that are awful such as Oakland and Tampa Bay.


I have no problem with prayer. I think you may be right that Coach Gibbs needs to do someting to shake things up, though.

[NorthCarolinaRedskin]

I have no problem with prayer. I think you may be right that Coach Gibbs needs to do someting to shake things up, though.

Oh yeah, I don't either. But in this case he should either pray quick with his eyes closed, or pray with his eyes open. It affects the way I feel and the players feel when you close your eyes and bend over all the time.

[chet06]

we suck, end of story. the problem is the fact we dont have a gm

[Painkiller]

Ok, let's not go to far here. There is nothing wrong with Prayer, the kneeling. My problem is with the play calling, and the lack of a "kick em while there down." attitude.

Is it so wrong to want to put the game out of reach? Run up the score, and then play conservative. There is NO killer instinct on this team from top to bottom.

[dcoles11]

I have no problem with prayer. I think you may be right that Coach Gibbs needs to do someting to shake things up, though.

How about we leave the prayer for church and play football. All this eye closing asking god for help is ridiculous.

I don't remember Gibbs being this much of a girl his first go around.

God dosen't care who wins the game so quit talking to him during it.

If you wanna pray do it before and after the game.

[Seabee1973]

I too am disgusted when he dosen't even have the stomache to watch a play, what is with closing your eyes?? My god act like you are better than someone and you expect to win, this down on your knees with your eyes closed stuff is getting old.

Anybody else notice that our offense is alot better when we are behind? Gibbs gets a 7 point lead and starts playing ball control in the damn 2nd quarter. If its tied or were down by a score or 2 we open it up and move the ball, like against Tampa Bay last week. We get up 13-3 on Oakland and we basically wait around for them to come back on us. Go for the throat you chicken ***t, you know like what you should have done on 3rd down and 2 last week vs Tampa Bay.

Gibbs has no killer instinct and its evident is his play calling and his girlish actions on the side lines with the eye closing .


It has to do a lot with the fumbles They were driving end of the half in the eagles game and a fumble whole second half he went conservative. Last week was the first time he has not gotten conservative after a turnover.

The big problem is the offensive line. They stink even in max protect they stink they need to go out and get some decent blockers.

[Saqs]

It seems the offensive playcalling just stagnates unless we're behind.

[TheSteve]

Well, as you get older you do lose testosterone.

[NorthCarolinaRedskin]

Please guys... this is not a religious argument. He can pray... all I am saying is that closing your eyes and bending over can have an effect on everyone's confidence. Clock runs 60 minutes, game lasts 180, theres time to pray in between right?

[AJ_Skins]

Oh yeah, I don't either. But in this case he should either pray quick with his eyes closed, or pray with his eyes open. It affects the way I feel and the players feel when you close your eyes and bend over all the time.

I've only ever seen him do it on field goals. Maybe I'm missing something. The players' eyes are on the game anyway.

[AJ_Skins]

I agree about the overall style on offense. They need to put up more points earlier in the game and try playing with a lead for once.

[buckeyeG]

iam not really surprised its been 2 seasons since we beat a AFC team we get owned by AFC so we will lose to chargers too and win the rest of the games

Yep,were 0-9 against the AFC in our last 9 games against them. :puke:

[sith lord]

I have no problem with prayer. I think you may be right that Coach Gibbs needs to do someting to shake things up, though.

But don't forget, "God helps those that help themselves".

[GO GO SKINS]

So So true...I have no confidence for this team, about 5-6 players, yes but not as a team.

[The extremist]

Want some more sobering stats??...Over the last four games:

Brunell:
69/124
56% completion rate
670 yds
167.5 ypg
2 TDs
3 INTs
4 Fumbles

Moss:
19 receptions
245 yds
61 ypg
12.89 ypc
0 TDs

Offense:
263 ypg

Defense:
350 ypg

The defense is giving up close to 100 yards per game more than the offense...


i think the team has just peaked, and i don't think we control our own playoff destiny (unless we win out)....For now, it is essential to plan for the future, and start Campbell/Rogers the rest of the way so that they are completely comfortable to hit the ground running next year...let's see once and for all if Jacobs and some of the other unproven players really have a future in the NFL...

[3CardMonte]

I don't remember Gibbs being this much of a girl his first go around.

In all honesty do you even remember his first run as Redskins coach?

[3CardMonte]

Hard to open up an offense when the offense is turning the ball over.

[dcoles11]

In all honesty do you even remember his first run as Redskins coach?

Yes actually I do, i'm sorry if you didn't watch football when you were in the 4th grade but I did.

I remember Gibbs being tough and stoned face and confident. I remember just being confident we had a chance to win every week because he was our coach.

Now I see him closing his eyes with his head down or his back turned to the a critical play.

[SonnyRules]

We constantly play down to the teams we're up against. Pathetic.

.....OR....up to teams we play.

We seek the level of the other teams we are playing; while not searching for our own brand of excellence.

[Danny Montana]

This team is not a playoff team. If, by some miracle, we somehow happen to get in the playoffs, it will be because we back in and some other more deserving teams collapse.

Losing a must win game at home to a 3-6 Norv coached team = Doomsday scenario.

The players and coaches should be ashamed of themselves today.

And it's painfully obvious this team needs a legit NFL GM. We have no depth and very little talent behind our starters. Gibbs needs to give up his GM duties and focus on coaching. For all the acquisitions of players and coaches since Snyder has owned the team, he has ignored the most obvious and most important one. Until we get a GM, expect more of the same dissapointing Redskins seasons.

[sith lord]

Hard to open up an offense when the offense is turning the ball over.

Even when we're not turning the ball over we play conservative.

[The extremist]

Losing a must win game at home to a 3-6 Norv coached team = Doomsday scenario.

And it's painfully obvious this team needs a legit NFL GM. We have no depth and very little talent behind our starters.

correct on both parts...i hadn't even bothered to think about the Norv part yet :doh:

[Mackdaddydean]

You suck! You suck as a fan and appear to be a Cowboy fan in sheeps clothing.

Nope just tired of being a part of a generation thats only seen Redskins failure. I was too young to remember the 92 super bowl, and the end of the 1999 playoff game was just pathetic, much like this raiders effort. A cowboys fan in sheeps clothing? So i guess youre a Tampa or Dolphins fan in sheeps clothing? Don't judge someone just cause they live outside of DC. YOU suck for spitting fire at someone whos just being realistic. You are 43 years old isnt it past your bedtime? Make sure to take your metamucial before bed and change into a new pair of depends.

[Spaceman Spiff]

I agree with a lot of the posts here.

In addition to no killer instinct, we're always constantly playing down to the opposition. Aside from the 49ers game we have never come out with the attitude that we should crush, dominate and destroy a team.

[TK]

Did ya know the Rules actually apply to Redskins fans as well?

[JerseyGator]

Maybe watching this offense reminds him of his NASCAR days - so he closes his eyes to miss the anticipated car wreck. :laugh:

[MidPennSkin]

.....OR....up to teams we play.

We seek the level of the other teams we are playing; while not searching for our own brand of excellence.

Seems to me like we seek the level of our opponents minus a little bit. That's why we lose so often.

[Heidenreich]

Today's game sucked. That being said, I'll be right back at the bar next Sunday rooting the skins on against the Chargers.......

[BrunellSuperbowl]

amazing how gibbs did not challange that portis getting the first down when it was 7-0

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

You know what's funny. It's seeing what Schopenhauer said about truth find expression on this board time and again.

Even a few weeks ago, nothing but bashing for anyone who suggested. Now? Truth.

[spiderman6]

why is everyone giving in already? People the season isn't over yet. The NFC is to tight right now


don't give in yet.

[CHUBAKAH]

Lol, come back on Tuesday, it will be all different.

[Craig]

The Skins have lost 5 out of the last 7 games. OF course anything is possible....but from the product I see on the field, they are not going to go on a 5 or 6 game winning streak. It just aint gonna happen. But as a Skins fan, I will be there watching every agonzing minute.

[sith lord]

The Skins have lost 5 out of the last 7 games. OF course anything is possible....but from the product I see on the field, they are not going to go on a 5 or 6 game winning streak. It just aint gonna happen. But as a Skins fan, I will be there watching every agonzing minute.

What he said.

[Rdskns2000]

Well we are 5-5. We will probably be mathematically in it for the rest of the year but realistically- the losses of the past 2 weeks have probably ended any shot of playoffs.

This team isn't a playoff team. This is the time of year, the contenders separate themselves from the pretenders. We aren't one of those teams. Only way this team makes it would be for us to finish 5-1 and for Dallas and NY collasp. That ain't happening. Quite frankly, I think- we have to wonder if this team even finishes .500



Chargers
@Rams
@Cards
Boys
Giants
@Eagles


You look at that and say we can go at least 4-2 and finish 9-7. Thing is, I don't think we will go 4-2. Injuries, Coaching, Lack of good players & depth, etc... It's all catching up to us now. We are better than last year in some aspects but we don't have all the pieces to make a playoff run.

What I do want to see for the rest of the year, is no quit. This team is still mathematically in contention; so better be acting like it. Play each game hard and to the fullest; win or lose. This season will be the springboard to the playoffs in 2006.

[RIDETHEWALRUS]

why is everyone giving in already? People the season isn't over yet. The NFC is to tight right now


don't give in yet.

Thank you.

There is a lot of football yet to be played and a lot of Redskins celebrations to enjoy left in this season.

[Painkiller]

Yup, Chewie is right.

We are all just venting today. Bear with us. :laugh:

[bulldog]

this team is not showing the kind of game to game improvement you look for in a team headed to the postseason. if anything this looks like a team that may start to play non-competitively as the injuries mount and the morale drops.

notice that we now have Patten and Thrash out of the lineup.

for all those that thought Taylor Jacobs was uncoverable, I saw him covered this afternoon on two intermediate to deep throws.

and that was with double coverage on the other side toward Moss.

Jacobs is no immediate answer to getting instant offense.

he is another receiver on our team. but he is no star. or star in waiting.

[BrunellSuperbowl]

http://redskin-roadtrips.com/phpBB2/files/clinton_dollar_182.gif This is why we are not in the race. A 50 million dollar back dressing like this instead of focusing on football. Go ask USC what a big time back is. Our bigtime back is a scrub

[sith lord]

Yup, Chewie is right.

We are all just venting today. Bear with us. :laugh:

I'm not venting. We're just not that good.

[GOSKN5]

Well I am going on record right now as not giving up.... i really love this website and the people on here... but after games like this its a little sad.... i mean really dont give up on your team EVER..... Even if they get mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs still dont give up.....keep pulling hard for your team.... we wouldnt want the players and coaches to give up until next year.... i mean really.... come on people... yeah we have an outside chance of playoffs... but we can still make a stand and win some games.... we also can win our last three divisional games too.... dont forget about those at the end....

Just have some faith and some d**n balls to stand up for your team even when they are struggling.......

[Painkiller]

I'm not venting. We're just not that good.

Guess, ya didn't pick up on my sarcasm.

:)

[WallyVon]

The Raiders let the rest of the NFL know how to stop us. Double or triple cover Santana Moss, rough up Chris Cooley, and blitz.

[sith lord]

Guess, ya didn't pick up on my sarcasm.

:)

My bad.

[Fighting for old D.C.]

Let me tell you why many of us feel like there is no hope:
1995: 6-10 - No Playoffs
1996: 9-7 - No Playoffs
1997: 8-7-1 - No Playoffs
1998: 6-10 - No Playoffs
1999: 10-6 - Lose heartbreaker in playoffs
2000 (the year we were supposed to be awesome): 8-8 - No Playoffs
2001: 8-8 - No Playoffs
2002: 7-9 - No Playoffs
2003: 5-11 - No Playoffs
2004: 6-10 - No Playoffs
2005: 5-5 - ??? but likely no playoffs

With the exception of the 1999 season, many fans like me have known absolutely nothing but failure with this franchise. Today's loss just rips your heart out because of the way the season started. It just seems like it's the same ole' sorry Redskins. It makes me wonder if I will ever have another team, besides the 1999 team, to be proud of.

[Bugster2k]

Personally, I think the Team plays down to their opponents, and I think Gibbs will adjust. I could also see us picking up TO, as Andy Reid said he wil never play in an Eagles Uniform again. The arbitrator is a 25 yr season ticket holder with the Skins, and I think he will make the Eagles re-instate TO, or force them to cut him. Gibbs and Snyder would sign him to a contract, that would have stipulations about his salary, and playing time, tied to his conduct, on and off the field. Living in Eagles country, I believe TO would want to play for a team, that:
A. Plays the Eagles 2 times a year, to stick it to them, and
B. Has another great Receiver (Moss), that would leave him open. He would have
caught half of the balls thrown at Taylor Jacobs.
This season isn't over yet.....

[OldTownFan]

WTF was the staff thinking throwing the deep ball 3 times on the same damn route to never was, never is, and never will be Taylor 'look mom I'm covered' Jacobs?

You Suck Jacobs, thats why you don't play, not because of your injuires, that just makes you a pu--y, the real truth is, you just aren't any good, get lost.

Our offensive line Sucks. Please Cut Chris Samuels, please....

Why do we use Portis up the middle, how is that different from last year?

This team is NOT A PLAYOFF TEAM BY ANY MEANS, AND LOSING TO TEAMS LIKE THE RAIDERS IS ALL THE EVIDENCE I NEED.

[bulldog]

The Redskins took what was a very advantageous position at 5-3 and division games at home to finish the season a couple of weeks ago and made a hash of the season against two teams they should have beaten.

That's the truth.

Whether the Redskins are good enough to beat a truly talented team that is making its way back in San Diego is a big question mark. Ditto with beating the Giants in the second matchup.

But to be 5-5 at this juncture did nothing but waste all the effort given forth for 8 weeks.

[D'KanSkinFan]

Well, my comment is..................we don't buy off the refs; we play a gentlemens game, so sorry for us! Hope Sellers is okay............Maybe we need to play dirty....................you know, those holding, kicking, eye scratching "things" the other teams do to us? Oh, my, what was I thinking, the refs would catch us...........................YIKES>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:2cents: :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :dallasuck :eaglesuck :eaglesuck :eaglesuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck :gaintsuck :gaintsuck :gaintsuck The rest of the league gets by with it, why can't we?

[WallyVon]

Let me tell you why many of us feel like there is no hope:
1995: 6-10 - No Playoffs
1996: 9-7 - No Playoffs
1997: 8-7-1 - No Playoffs
1998: 6-10 - No Playoffs
1999: 10-6 - Lose heartbreaker in playoffs
2000 (the year we were supposed to be awesome): 8-8 - No Playoffs
2001: 8-8 - No Playoffs
2002: 7-9 - No Playoffs
2003: 5-11 - No Playoffs
2004: 6-10 - No Playoffs
2005: 5-5 - ??? but likely no playoffs

With the exception of the 1999 season, many fans like me have known absolutely nothing but failure with this franchise. Today's loss just rips your heart out because of the way the season started. It just seems like it's the same ole' sorry Redskins. It makes me wonder if I will ever have another team, besides the 1999 team, to be proud of.

Add in two more seasons.

1993: 4-12, no playoffs
1994: 3-13, no playoffs

[FranklinNoble]

I'm still a die-hard fan, but facts are facts.

We just lost two games we should have won.

There's no excuse for losing to a rookie QB.

There's no excuse for losing at home to a pathetic Norv Turner coached Raider team.

We should be 7-3 right now. Instead, we're 5-5.

Stick a fork in us. We're done. This team will be lucky to win 8 games.

Joe Gibbs or not, it just ain't like the good old days anymore, and it probably never will be again.

[OldTownFan]

we ****ing sucked today, and you know what, we have sucked most sundays for the last seven weeks

we are 2-5 the last 7 weeks, we suck.


****

[GOSKN5]

yeah well im not giving up... in fact i have tickets to two games coming up and i am pumped....and i think we will make a run here.... i dont know if it will be enough to get us in... but i think we go down swinging.... and beat some giant and boys ***** on the way...

[FootballGuy2677]

Right now the playoff chances are slim and are players mood isnt really that exciting right now if you know what i mean and its starting to remind me of 2004 again especially this game... We need to beat San Diego at home next sunday and i could see us in the playoffs. But right now everything like the team/fans is kind of solemn mood.

[OldTownFan]

The Season Is Collapsing, ****.

I Quit Life

[authentic]

i agree with you man, but you may need to chill for a minute and let your emotions settle

[Fighting for old D.C.]

yeah well im not giving up... in fact i have tickets to two games coming up and i am pumped....and i think we will make a run here.... i dont know if it will be enough to get us in... but i think we go down swinging.... and beat some giant and boys ***** on the way...

I think it would be great to beat some division foes and end the season playing well, but that's not acceptable anymore for me. You would think that after rooting for this team since I knew what football was, I would have experienced more than one playoff season and a season where the team won more than ten games.

[bubba9497]

http://redskin-roadtrips.com/phpBB2/files/clinton_dollar_182.gif This is why we are not in the race. A 50 million dollar back dressing like this instead of focusing on football. Go ask USC what a big time back is. Our bigtime back is a scrub


yeah that is the reason, I mean it's not the defense giving up big plays, or the line getting beat at times... not even Brunnel having a crappy day passing.... it was Portis dressing up as a joke on thursday that has caused all 5 of our losses.

You nailed it, why it is all clear now... a sense of humor = losses in the NFL :notworthy

you're a freaking genius, Snyder should hire you as the GM.




:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[skinstzar]

Maybe the dumbest thread I have ever read.

[bulldog]

so, other than the gunshot, how did you like the play Mrs. Lincoln? :evil:

[SonnyRules]

Please merge with other 100 threads already started about the same thing.

[TK]

Did you know we enforce the rules here?



6. Do not attempt to circumvent the profanity filters.
Let the filters do their job. Veiled profanity is unacceptable. We allow the use of either all asterisks/symbols or not at all. For example "****" and "*&*%$" are acceptable, while "*****, “s**t” or “sh*t" are not.

[WallyVon]

I think it would be great to beat some division foes and end the season playing well, but that's not acceptable anymore for me. You would think that after rooting for this team since I knew what football was, I would have experienced more than one playoff season and a season where the team won more than ten games.

I'm with you there. I was 7 when they won the last Super Bowl, old enough to remember it but certainly not old enough to appreciate it.

One thing I've been thinking about is this: Redskin fans are the most loyal bunch I can think of. Despite only having one playoff season in the last 13, we have the largest stadium in the NFL, and it is packed to the brim week after week. The Redskins sell more merchandise than any other football team, and are, in most studies, the most valuable American sports franchise.

Despite having sucked for so long, it isn't affecting anyone in the wallet. I understand that Snyder is a fan and probably wants to win as much as anyone, but as we all know the most pressing motivation in capitalist America is money, and despite putting a losing product on the field year after year, Snyder is making a ton of money off of the Redskins.

I told myself after last year that I wouldn't buy any Redskins merchandise or go to any games until Snyder and the front office changed their ways. I hate their waste of draft picks year after year, and I hate the overspending on free agents, forcing us to cut quality players like Antonio Pierce.

I was beginning to change my tune based on the early wins this year, but I'm back to the same position now. I will not support what I believe to be bad policies. I know its a longshot, but maybe if Snyder felt a little pain in the wallet he would be a little more sensible??

I don't know. Part of me loves the fact that Redskin fans are so loyal, willing to spend their money to support their franchise regardless of wins and losses. But part of me feels like we are getting pushed around, and a poor product is being thrust out there because the owner knows that no matter what he does, he'll make money off of us.

I don't know what to do, but this is ridiculous. We are in league with the Bengals and Cardinals after this season in our futility. One playoff appearance in 13 years. Disgusting.

[Tulane Skins Fan]

We stink! Our offense stinks, our defense stinks.

[Painkiller]

WallyVon. I must say that I think there is a lot of truth in your post. Despite this loss, plenty of Jersey's and other Redskins merchandise will be sold this week. 1 Playoff appearance out of 13 years is about as bad as you can get.

I believe that Coach Gibbs will get us back in the playoffs, but I'm so TIRED of waiting. :(

[smack500]

No matter what Im not going to stop being a fan, however I cant fully express my anger and disapointment with this team. We have shown we have a good offence and can score, but as soon as we get the lead everything and everyone goes conservative. Our defense is crap compared to last year, we let bad teams have huge running games and leave players wide open for huge pass gains.

I have no confidence in this team this year, and after watching this team the last 2 decades Im only expecting another let down next year to be realistic.

[WallyVon]

WallyVon. I must say that I think there is a lot of truth in your post. Despite this loss, plenty of Jersey's and other Redskins merchandise will be sold this week. 1 Playoff appearance out of 13 years is about as bad as you can get.

I believe that Coach Gibbs will get us back in the playoffs, but I'm so TIRED of waiting. :(

Most NFL teams go through down years financially when they lose. This is added incentive for ownership to build a winner.

Even the Yankees struggled financially in the late 80s and early 90s when they were losers year after year.

We've been losers for 13 years (except for 1999), and this is still the most profitable sports franchise in America. That is amazing.

I just want a winning team. I'll do anything I can to make that happen, including avoiding spending any money at all on tickets or merchandise until smart decisions start to be made.

[peanut0862]

I never played organized football but how do we get beat every week on long plays playing a cover two zone defence. looks as if we have a LB on a wide out way to ofton. please help me understand

[fuji869]

So you guys think the season is over.....

Nothing is over until we decied it's over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pear Harbor!!!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f2/Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg/180px-Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg

:soapbox:

Had to add a little humor to the board!

[RedskinsOP]

Sadly enough, I think our season is not heading towards the playoffs. Think about it. Excluding those first three wins, we have won twice in seven games.

[Donita35]

we are 5-5 with 6 games left, and it happens. every team losses to a sucky team like the radiers. we just got ours today. The giants had theirs last week against the vikings. This team has to keep its head up. This season is far from over.

Let that go, we lost to four games this year that we should have won.

Denver
Kansas City
Tampa Bay
Oakland

You people are killing me. It is one thing to be optimistic, but you have to be realistic. We are not good enough to close games and put teams away.

[grego]

haha!

but yes, i think the season is over...

[LJackson]

Yes.


Please turn out the lights when yoou leave.

thank you.

[fuji869]

haha!

but yes, i think the season is over...

Me too brother, just had have a break form the doom and gloom posts! :doh:

[SkinsCrunkin]

So you guys think the season is over.....

Nothing is over until we decied it's over! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pear Harbor!!!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f2/Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg/180px-Belushi_in_Animal_House.jpg

:soapbox:

Had to add a little humor to the board!

The Germans didn't bomb pearl harbor... it was the japanese.... how could you get that wrong?? stunning :doh:

[Epistopheles]

I usually don't post like this, but after watching today and our stagnant offense, this is the end of the road for us. Sure we will probably pick up a few more wins, but all we will be playing for now is pride. From Brunell to the tackles, tight ends, fumbles, etc. We are still a ways away from being contenders, we have def. gone in a positive direction from the last couple of seasons, but we are still a work in progress. I can only hope we can draft some Dline help or pick up somebody in free agency. I hope Campbell is ready as well, I like Brunell, but has cost us just as many games if not more than he has won us. Next year will be better. I am not a fair weather fan, just trying to be a realistic one.


Hey, dude. The end of the road for us is week 17, same as everybody else. Tighten up, y'all.

[LJackson]

Germans, Japanese, whatever...I have no use for either.

[fuji869]

The Germans didn't bomb pearl harbor... it was the japanese.... how could you get that wrong?? stunning :doh:

Watch the movie "Animal House" you will know what I am talking about. :)

[terpfan]

I love how EVERYTIME that line is quoted someone corrects it...lol

[Canadian Hog]

So who we drafting?

[LJackson]

So who we drafting?



Who will be available once we're up is the question.

Hopefully all of the QBs will be gone!

[FlaSkinsFan]

Most of you people are Morons!

[#1SkinsFan]

i dont think the season is over b/c technically its not.
The best we can hope for is 9-7. Win against SD,STL , AZ, and the Giants or Eagles.
The cowboys have shown me that they are a force to be reckon with as muchas i hate to admit it. I think we can beat the giants but thats just me. i would be happy with 8-8, but hey 11-5 anyone?

[JRAB]

The Germans didn't bomb pearl harbor... it was the japanese.... how could you get that wrong?? stunning :doh:


:laugh:

Just when you think you're smart... you come off looking foolish.

Oh, watch Animal House. It's a good movie.

Yep, season's done.

Draft is over before it ever began.

[BigRay]

You may ask how in the world it could be worse, this team could be the Houston Texans :laugh: see things aren't that bad is it ? Seriously it was a disappoint loss today I think one of the biggest problems with this team is consistency they played a very good game against the then # 1 defense Tampa Bay moved the ball at will. Turn around can't get anything going against one of the worst defenses in the league.


We certainly need a legit pass rusher that is something that should be #1 priority why the season isn't lost yet they have to find away to stop the turnovers that is the main thing that is killing them and try to generate a pass rush ..

[skinsgoingtosuperbowl]

this team could be the Houston Texans :laugh: ..

Actually I wouldnt mind having the record of the Texans because then we can get Reggie Bush!

[JerseyGator]

It just doesn't matter if we win, because all the T.O.'s of the world are going to sign with the Cowboys anyways! It just doesn't matter!

[Fan035]

I was at today's game. When we intercepted and ran it back for a touchdown, I thought, yep, we're gonna win. From that point on, we looked lousy. We turned the ball over, we had no offense, Brunell looked lousy, the running game ceased, no receiver was open, we had no pass rush, etc., etc. We've been in every game except one, but losing by a little in a lot of games, doesn't make me feel any better. Alas, it's not our year.....again.

[orange crusher]

Actually I wouldnt mind having the record of the Texans because then we can get Reggie Bush!

Getting Bush without a first round draft pick would be a miracle.

[Leonard Washington]

Getting Bush without a first round draft pick would be a miracle.
:rotflmao: pretty much. i think the broncos wouldn't mind too much.

[scrol14]

That was a sorry offensive game.


Put 35 on Bucs and can't score Raiders.

This team is done!


Where is all of the BRUNELL lovers!

I think PT would be better than 5-5 just my thoughts.

[helluvaskinsfan]

No excuses we suck. Considering our performance here is the rest of the season for you guys so you dont have to watch pitful football and can find something better to do on Sunday

Chargers L
St Louis L
Arizona W
Dallas L
NY L
Philly W

Enjoy.

MR FAIRWEATHER,sorry we had a few rainy days,but it aint over til we're mathmatically eliminated,so if you want you can always be a colts fan,i hear they're having much better weather in indianapolis

[helluvaskinsfan]

its really sad to see so many of you giving up,this is extremeskins for a reason,we arent dead yet,never turn your back on the skins

[McMetal]

I can't keep watching this cr*p week in and week out. It's too painful. Just when I think the losses can't get any tougher, they find new ways to torment me.

It's now clear that this is still not a good team. Finishing at .500 will be a tough challenge for them. Expectations are officially out the window.

This franchise continues to be unable to right the ship. It's just impossible to understand. The fans deserve so much more than the effort that is being given on the field right now. Even Gibbs is not making a difference. This team is not turning the corner. There has been 0% improvement over the past few weeks.

Sadly, it looks like the team has decided to mail it in for the rest of the season. I thought these guys had more pride than that. I am very disappointed to see I was wrong.

[blackice7x]

I love extremeskins because I get to see a bunch of fanatics argue about whether the season is over or if we just hit a road bump.

[akorn22]

whoever says 8-8 is prolly correct

Rams, Cardinals, Eagles - W

Chargers, Cowboys, Giants - L

[skinthemboys]

Wow! According to the post here we have lost are next 6 games....I think its more these fair weather fans who have no fight...not our team.. If you say this team has not fought in any game this season you are full of ****. I have not seen a Redskins team fight this hard since our last SB season..and we are fighting just as hard now as we were then. We have had a couple of games taken from us by the refs this year weather you admit that or not. We fought our asses off today but came up short. We are still missing our best D-lineman, we have lost 2 starting WRs, We lost betts, CP put the ball on the grond twice( and no we dont need to trade him). Its been a tough season with some heartbreakers. But this team is much improved....I cant say you "fans" are worth a **** though. I think you should be cut.

[akorn22]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SkinsCrunkin
The Germans didn't bomb pearl harbor... it was the japanese.... how could you get that wrong?? stunning :doh:




:laugh:

Just when you think you're smart... you come off looking foolish.

Oh, watch Animal House. It's a good movie.

Yep, season's done.

Draft is over before it ever began.



Damn, I didn't think there was a person on earth who never saw Animal house. HAHA

[Daanie]

A week ago the Skins went into Tampa Bay,
against NFL's top defense and scored 28 points.

This week at home against Oakland, a horrible road
team, managed 6 offensive points.

Why was the offense so horrible, especially the pass
game? Was their coverage that good?

And we have an explosive San Diego team coming in :(
Its time to fold the tents...

[RedskinsOP]

Disregarding the first three games, we have won two games in the last seven. I love my skins, but this is just getting worse as the season progresses, and I don't know why. The defence not forcing fumbles? Oline not holding up? I can't figure it out anymore, and I'm starting to rethink watching the chargers game because the past two weeks my heart has been ripped out and spat on over and over. How about any of you?

[Capt'n Obvious]

A week ago the Skins went into Tampa Bay,
against NFL's top defense and scored 28 points.

This week at home against Oakland, a horrible road
team, managed 6 offensive points.

Why was the offense so horrible, especially the pass
game? Was their coverage that good?

And we have an explosive San Diego team coming in :(
Its time to fold the tents...



If the offense exploded against Tampa, how can you be sure they wont explode against San Diego?

[Daanie]

yeah, it seems the season is done....
we couldnt afford to lose at home to oakland...

[skinthemboys]

A week ago the Skins went into Tampa Bay,
against NFL's top defense and scored 28 points.

This week at home against Oakland, a horrible road
team, managed 6 offensive points.

Why was the offense so horrible, especially the pass
game? Was their coverage that good?

And we have an explosive San Diego team coming in :(
Its time to fold the tents...

Well. Fold your tent. grab your carolina panthers jersey.....and carry your ass out the door, and dont let the door hit ya, where the good lord split ya

[forbeskin]

Technically the season is not over, if really want to be optimistic about it we could win out and be 11-5, is that going to happen, I doubt it. It could happen though, crazier things have. If we can stop from shooting ourselves in the foot, we can have a chance. We stop the fumbles, pick up blocks that are leading to sacks, we have a chance. One thing I noticed about todays game is our offense and how other defense's read it. I noticed when we lined up max protect, the defenses sat back and swarmed our 2 lonley recievers. When we line up 3 out, they blitz and our TE's and tackles cannot pick up the blitz. The biggest thing though is our 2 reciever max protect set, instead of coming at us, they're dropping back into coverage and shuting us down. It's not Brunells fault, he has to throw the ball away, there really is nobody open cause half the offense is blocking. But if the team really wanted to turn this around, they can, it really isn't to late, but from what I have seen as of late, it just is not going to happen.

[GOSKINS_08]

Some of you guys make me sick.All you guys do is complain when we lose and when we win you guys are fans again.Its only 1 game and you guys make it seem like our season is done.Our season is not over yet we still have a chance.The rest of our game are winnable against the chargers dallas and giants at home are winnable.On the road we have the rams and cardinals which are both bad teams,and the eagles we can win on the road.We can go 6-0 or 5-1 over the rest of the season and still win the division or get a wildcard.Some of you guys need to decided if you guys are a fan or not.I am a true fan and i know that our season is not over yet.GO REDSKINS!!!!

[Craig]

The rest of our game are winnable against the chargers dallas and giants at home are winnable.On the road we have the rams and cardinals which are both bad teams,and the eagles we can win on the road.We can go 6-0 or 5-1 over the rest of the season and still win the division or get a wildcard.

Winnable like the Tampa and Oakland games?

[GOSKINS_08]

Winnable like the Tampa and Oakland games?

Yeah we should have beat the bucs but a horrible call.You will see:logo:

[forbeskin]

Yeah we should have beat the bucs but a horrible call.You will see:logo:


Dude, it doesn't matter, it's not like their going to overturn the loss. It's time to move on.

[GOSKINS_08]

Dude, it doesn't matter, it's not like their going to overturn the loss. It's time to move on.

I know that but you guys sound like we are the worse team,we are not out of it yet.Oh and btw nice sig!!!!

[dpass]

:2cents: The season is not over yet. I still think that we can win our division and make the playoffs. Todays game was just a bad day for us for some reason. I do think that we should start calling audibles. No need to max protect if they are only rushing 4. Something that coach needs to think about. We need to go on a little win streak. Since we have lost 5 of the last 7 maybe we can win 5 of the last 6.:helmet:

[Rodriggo]

Didn't want to say it last week because of the way we fought on the road in a tough environment, even though I felt sick to my stomach to see Chris Simms statline, but it must be said....we're done. Even if we had beaten the Raiders today we still would have had a tough road to travel, now that we are losing at home to sorry no account teams that all but hand the game to us what else is there left to hope for this year? The way the playoffs are set up you can't lose games like this at home. 5-5 two games out of second in our division, its over, there is no other way to look at it. Next week, if the Chargers are half as good as everyone says they are we are going to have a Meadowlands flashback. 5-6. That is why we absolutely had to have this game not necessarily because we drop to 5-5 but because we can potentially drop two in a row. Then we have to win two games back to back on the road just to get over .500. before we face the rest of the East and we'll be lucky if we go 1-2 in the final three. Last week was the difference between 10-6 and 9-7, today was the diff. bw 9-7 and 8-8, next week it'll be the diff. bw 8-8 and 7-9, etc., etc., I agree with the original post 7-9. out of the playoffs again having to wait til the draft in April.

[KingLEO]

Um yeah, so who do you think we should go for in the draft?

[DC_Native,NC_Fan]

We suck. Have for over a decade. Get used to it.

[The extremist]

:rotflmao: pretty much. i think the broncos wouldn't mind too much.

knowing denver, they will probably burn the pick on something stupid....maybe they will use it on clarett again in the supplemental draft :silly:

[SkinnedAussie]

I posted a comment earlier, but for some reason I can no longer find it.

Basically, what I posted was that no matter what, I would never give up on the Skins, but, I no longer intend on waking up at 4.30am on a Monday morning and sit through any more repeats of the last two games. I'll just log in to ES, or nfl.com, and find out the score of each game, when I wake up later in the morning.

In fact, I'm heading interstate on Wednesday, and in my luggage will be my white #11 Rypien jersey (as my burgundy #11 will be in the washing basket).

[The extremist]

I posted a comment earlier, but for some reason I can no longer find it.

Basically, what I posted was that no matter what, I would never give up on the Skins, but, I no longer intend on waking up at 4.30am on a Monday morning and sit through any more repeats of the last two games. I'll just log in to ES, or nfl.com, and find out the score of each game, when I wake up later in the morning.

In fact, I'm heading interstate on Wednesday, and in my luggage will be my white #11 Rypien jersey (as my burgundy #11 will be in the washing basket).

wow...you would wake up at 4:30 to watch?? that's dedication :applause: :cheers:

i stayed up late watching the 2002 world cup, but i was working nights so it was easy

[SkinnedAussie]

Mate, there is a 16 hour time difference between Australia and the US. Therefore, when the game starts at 1pm Sunday, it is 5am Monday here.

[s0crates]

Let us not forget we were 3-7 at this point last year. I'm not jumping ship, this team is improving.

[DEFENSEGURU]

we are 5-5 with 6 games left, and it happens. every team losses to a sucky team like the radiers. we just got ours today. The giants had theirs last week against the vikings. This team has to keep its head up. This season is far from over.

Now HERE is a homer. Somebody who wants to believe that a ZEBRA will suddenly change its stripes and become a peacock.

I got to tell ya friend, this season is OVA. No pass rush, no coverage skills, a poor offensive game plan every week which includes throwing 3 yard passes to the fastest man in the NFL, and a team that would best be described as the "Washington Fumblers."

[grampi]

I was hoping for a bit more from this team this year, but the team is as its record indicates.....mediocre. The offense continues to commit turnovers week after week, and their production is inconsistant at best, while the defense continues to melt down late in games when it's most important to make a stand. With Dallas and NY running away with the division, it's time to pull out that ol' tried and true cleche'......there's always next year! This season is over for the Skins.

[Rypien 91]

:ciao: See ya. Since you think the season is over, why don't you join the Cowboys or Giants bandwagon? I am sure they need some more people. I am sick of all these negative threads. "The season is over....", "Trade Portis...he sucks!!!." Things are looking better then last year. I have great hope for this team. I am sticking with them. I have been with them since 79 and will be with until I am laid in the ground. Have faith people!

[grampi]

I didn't say I was no longer a fan, I'm just not blindly optimistic.

[fansince62]

"See ya. Since you think the season is over, why don't you join the Cowboys or Giants bandwagon? I am sure they need some more people. I am sick of all these negative threads. "The season is over....", "Trade Portis...he sucks!!!." Things are looking better then last year. I have great hope for this team. I am sticking with them. I have been with them since 79 and will be with until I am laid in the ground. Have faith people!"

what's that Polllyanna? no one is abandonning the Skins. there is the small matter, of course, of standards and expectations. your's are apparently set quite low.

[Park City Skins]

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128062

[jerrarde]

I wint say that the season is over, but we are in big trouble. We basically have to win out, or go 5-1 in these last six games. With no WR's except Moss, we have to come up with more ways to score. Any fan that can't see that we are in trouble is sniffing glue.

[jerrarde]

:ciao: See ya. Since you think the season is over, why don't you join the Cowboys or Giants bandwagon? I am sure they need some more people. I am sick of all these negative threads. "The season is over....", "Trade Portis...he sucks!!!." Things are looking better then last year. I have great hope for this team. I am sticking with them. I have been with them since 79 and will be with until I am laid in the ground. Have faith people!

Funny that a 26 year old was with the team since 79, when that was probably the year he was born. Man, you dont remember watching a single game in 79!

[McMetal]

Why is it that invariably if someone expresses their opinion that the season is over, someone else will respond with "Fine, go be a ____ fan." What does that have to do with anything? How on earth could any bandwagon fans still be left with this team after the losing run we have suffered through?

People are just expressing their cumulative frustration over an insurmountable losing culture that has developed here the past few years. If they weren't true Redskins fans, why would they waste time coming here to vent?

I find it hard to blame anyone for being bitter at this stage. It's extremely difficult to care about something so much, yet be powerless to to prevent the ongoing downward spiral. How can that NOT be frustrating?

[authentic]

I'll tell you what, next week against the chargers is our playoff game. If we loose this game then we are done. Being 5-6 in a tough division like this spells desaster. So now this is no time, especially for the team, to stop talking about January. Please just concentrate on the games from week to week!!

[skinfan2k]

im a die hard skins fan, but we are maybe a few plays from being 2-8 or 3-7. Has this team actually improved? Can Jason Campbell help us? Honestly, if we did not play the bears the first week, they would beat us right now? As for the cowboys game, 2 lucky plays helped, but a major penalty on the boys on 3rd down helped us out. The seahawks game was suppose to be a loss after the pick by brunell. I know the skins play their hearts out in KC and denver but turnovers kill. the 49ers win is the only win this team deserve. We played a philly team without TO. What can this team do? Try to use zone blocking. I have no clue what this team will be in a few years.

[SonnyRules]

Just as easily we could be 9-1.

[ntotoro]

Bla, bla, bla...

We could just as easily be 9-1, 8-2 or 7-3 as we are 5-5.

[heyholetsgogrant]

Meh who cares...whether its 2-7 or 5-5 you ant goin to the play-offs...lol at least joe theisman picked us for the superbowl.

-Grant

[Mr. Nostril]

I agree with you kind of, but realistically, I say we should be 6-4. We lucked out against Dallas and Seattle, but Denver, Tampa, and Oakland all lucked out against us.

[skinfan2k]

we could be 9-1 ur right. ur record shows what type of team you are. dallas is only 3 plays away from being 9-1. the pick in seattle and the 2 deep bombs by moss.

[28rdsknsfn28]

Just as easily we could be 9-1.

That is why it hurts so much. In the last few years you could not have honestly said that.

[bubba9497]

we could be 9-1 ur right. ur record shows what type of team you are. dallas is only 3 plays away from being 9-1. the pick in seattle and the 2 deep bombs by moss.


Dallas is only a few plays away from 3-7 as well, and has played a much easier schedule so far

[GOSKINS_08]

I can't believe some of you say you are Redskins fans.If you think we suck move to another team and stop complaining then.We still have hope.

[tapstaks2000]

We made the playoffs WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Park City Skins]

Good find. Shall we look through this thread now and............. :evil:

[thelarkascend1ng]

let's burn this thread.

[Skinlanta]

This is great.....Everyone on this list should be sent directly to the Cowboys locker room after tonights game.........What a riot......

[Redskinz4Life89]

I usually don't post like this, but after watching today and our stagnant offense, this is the end of the road for us. Sure we will probably pick up a few more wins, but all we will be playing for now is pride. From Brunell to the tackles, tight ends, fumbles, etc. We are still a ways away from being contenders, we have def. gone in a positive direction from the last couple of seasons, but we are still a work in progress. I can only hope we can draft some Dline help or pick up somebody in free agency. I hope Campbell is ready as well, I like Brunell, but has cost us just as many games if not more than he has won us. Next year will be better. I am not a fair weather fan, just trying to be a realistic one.

Nice call.

[Joe Gibbs II]

Some of you skins 'fans' should be ashamed of yourselves. To have such little hope at week 11 and 12 is fairly remarkable since the next 2 weeks we were playing Stl and Arz.


Sometimes i wonder if the skins really do have the best fans.

[Redskinz4Life89]

I can't keep watching this cr*p week in and week out. It's too painful. Just when I think the losses can't get any tougher, they find new ways to torment me.

It's now clear that this is still not a good team. Finishing at .500 will be a tough challenge for them. Expectations are officially out the window.

This franchise continues to be unable to right the ship. It's just impossible to understand. The fans deserve so much more than the effort that is being given on the field right now. Even Gibbs is not making a difference. This team is not turning the corner. There has been 0% improvement over the past few weeks.

Sadly, it looks like the team has decided to mail it in for the rest of the season. I thought these guys had more pride than that. I am very disappointed to see I was wrong.

Want to take that back?

[SkinsFTW]

The Germans didn't bomb pearl harbor... it was the japanese.... how could you get that wrong?? stunning :doh:

LOL. Funniest post ever. :D:D:D

[AzSkinsFan63]

Silly Thread!

[redskins4life234]

No excuses we suck. Considering our performance here is the rest of the season for you guys so you dont have to watch pitful football and can find something better to do on Sunday

Chargers L
St Louis L
Arizona W
Dallas L
NY L
Philly W

Enjoy.

we are 5-5 with 6 games left, and it happens. every team losses to a sucky team like the radiers. we just got ours today. The giants had theirs last week against the vikings. This team has to keep its head up. This season is far from over.

I usually don't post like this, but after watching today and our stagnant offense, this is the end of the road for us. Sure we will probably pick up a few more wins, but all we will be playing for now is pride. From Brunell to the tackles, tight ends, fumbles, etc. We are still a ways away from being contenders, we have def. gone in a positive direction from the last couple of seasons, but we are still a work in progress. I can only hope we can draft some Dline help or pick up somebody in free agency. I hope Campbell is ready as well, I like Brunell, but has cost us just as many games if not more than he has won us. Next year will be better. I am not a fair weather fan, just trying to be a realistic one.

....congratulations to all of us today...we now know where we stand...we suck...horrible playcalling...no runs by cp in what seems like the whole second half even though he was on his way to 130 day at halftime...nice job Joe

We had no heart today. The skins are now done. We don't deserve any playoff talk or anything the rest of the year. I predict we will only three more games this year and give the Broncos a great pick.

Thanks skins you have just freed up the rest of my Sunday afternoons.

Until next year guys, I wish all extremeskins and their families happy and safe holidays. Spend your Sunday's with those who you love and happy New Year to you all.

Thanks and god bless.

i hate to say it but the chances of us getting into the playoffs is unlikely

The season's over. Right now I'm just hoping for 9-7 or 8-8.

How do some fans expect us to run the table when we haven't won back-to-back games since the very beginning of the season?

I agree, this loss will put us just out of the playoffs

Good prediticons all :applause: :jerk:

Stand up.. and take the crap :)

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I am embarrassed that I posted in this thread. I never said we sucked. I was wearing my emotions on my sleeve after a bad game against the Raiders. However I was optimistic we'd do something after the Rams game. That game we seemed to do something. You could tell a corner was being turned. And I refuse to be scolded by a 16 year old when I have lived and died with this team since 10-11 years before he was born.

[a_good_brotha]

I hope now most of you here understand what many of the posters mean when we say "In Gibbs we trust!" He has turned this franchise around.

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

I hope now most of you here understand what many of the posters mean when we say "In Gibbs we trust!" He has turned this franchise around.
I agree. To be pissed for being 5-6 is one thing but mailing it in is just blasphemy.

[redskins4life234]

Bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmp. More must see...

[Diver]

This is the main reason I refuse to post in knee jerk threads such as this one. I wouldn't want to put myself in the position to be on record blasting my own team because things aren't going perfectly at that particular moment. You blast a Hall of Fame coach and react like thoughtless fools. Every person that posted negatively in this thread should be banished, I as a Redskin fan feel sorry for you.

[NOVA2Tampa]

PLAYOFFS, BABY!!! :point2sky

[Hog Lover]

I'll join those who eat crow. I never saw this team as a playoff team until the second Cowboys game. I am thrilled to be completely wrong.

[Skinsfan1311]

Bumpity bump....welcome back to the fold folks........

[skinfan13]

I wouldn't be shocked if the Skins run the table, but it would be hard for us to get into the playoffs the way Dallas and NY are playing. Not giving up on them just yet but being realistic. well realistic just aint good enough, cuase, we did it!!!:eaglesuck :gaintsuck :dallasuck