We can still win the NFC East

[Redskins4ever]

Sept. 11 vs. Bears 1:00pm ET FOX / 707 W 9 - 7
Sept. 19 @ Cowboys 9:00pm ET ABC W 14 - 13
Oct. 2 vs. Seahawks 1:00pm ET FOX / 707 W 20 - 17
Oct. 9 @ Broncos 4:15pm ET FOX / 714 L 19 - 21
Oct. 16 @ Chiefs 1:00pm ET FOX / 712 L 21 - 28
Oct. 23 vs. 49ers 1:00pm ET FOX / 712 W 52 - 17
Oct. 30 @ Giants 1:00pm ET FOX / 708 L 0 - 36
Nov. 6 vs. Eagles 8:30pm ET ESPN W 17 - 10
Nov. 13 @ Buccaneers 4:15pm ET FOX / 707 L 35 - 36
Nov. 20 vs. Raiders 1:00pm ET CBS / 707 L 13 - 16
Nov. 27 vs. Chargers 1:00pm ET CBS / 711
Dec. 4 @ Rams 4:05pm ET FOX / 716
Dec. 11 @ Cardinals 4:05pm ET FOX / 715
Dec. 18 vs. Cowboys 1:00pm ET FOX / 708
Dec. 24 vs. Giants 1:00pm ET FOX / 713
Jan. 1 @ Eagles 4:15pm ET FOX / 714




I don't know where the problem lies. If we can place the blame on Portis for fumbling, then we can place the blame on Jon Jansen for missing his block on 4th and 2 when Brunell was sacked at the end. The offense sputtered against a so-so Raiders defense that doesn't have any known players. I think it's safe to say the Redskins aren't good enough. We just don't know how to win. Although the Redskins started 3-0, they could have easily been 0-3 to start the season. The turnover ratio is a hazard, which is another reason the Redskins won't be playing in the post season. Portis fumbled twice. Portis is the type of running back that goes a long time without fumblng then he fumbles twice in one game. He did the same thing last year when the Redskins played at Cleveland.


I think the team isn't balanced. So far this season, the defense has been the goat and the offense has been heroic. Today, the offense looked poor while the defense played inspiring football. Lavar Arrington, Lemar Marshall, and Sean Taylor brought their A game. The offensive line of the Raiders defended the pass rush well and made it possible for Kerry Collins to pass the football but still the defense played well against the Raiders offense with the exception of the mismatch in coverage when Marshall was checking Jerry Porter. Other than that, the defense played well.


I think the offense fell to sleep somewhere in the third quarter. In the 4th Quarter the offense had gained only 28 yards, a stat that frightens me. By the time the final drive came, the Raiders defense smacked the offense in the mouth.


The remaining games are winnable games. But if the offense plays like it did against the Chargers, they will get blown out. L.T. is coming to town and you can bet Marty will feed LaDanian the ball and in my opinions he's the best runner the Redskins will have faced this year. If Shawn Alexander can knock the Skins' defense senseless, then what about Tomilson?

Another thing. I'm beginning to believe that Jon Jansen and Chris Samuels are overrated. Jansen missed a key block on the offense's final play and as a result Mark Brunell was not only sacked, but fumbled the football. Gibbs has to come up with some answers quick, fast, and in a hurry, or else, the Redskins will be struggling to go 7-9.

Thoughts?

[RDSKNfaithfull]

9-7 book it

[Donita35]

8-8 is right. 9-7 is a stretch. However, we need 10-6 to make the playoffs. That being said, we will be at home in late January.

[sircharlz]

Every year when we get down to the final weeks I track which teams need to lose/win in order for the skins to make the playoffs. I really enjoy this, so if you think it's dumb, pointless or wishful thinking - kiss off.

[5 Super Bowls]

LOL.


:laugh:

:laugh:

Are you serious.



:doh:

[sith lord]

I don't want to see any stats. All I know is that both the Giants and Cowboys are playing better than we are.

[authentic]

Wishfull thinking, but the way that we are playing right now we would be lucky to win 9 games, and 9 wins will not win the east this year.

[RavenzSuck]

There is always hope!!! It is never over until we are mathematically eliminated! I ll be there next sunday cheering them on.

[#1SkinsFan]

we have to win 5 out of the next 6 to win the division.
It's possible, but unlikely

[Painkiller]

I don't want to see any stats. All I know is that both the Giants and Cowboys are playing better than we are.


Yup, stats or no stats, that is the cold, hard, truth.

We are the third best team in the NFC East right now. Barely. It's time for a reality check.

[LJackson]

Put down the crack pipe.


Please?

:laugh:

[sircharlz]

Are you serious.


Yes I'm serious. If the wins/losses play out like that, the results are what is shown to the right jackass. I'm not saying it is going to happen. I'm just saying that it is possible for the skins to win the division.

[Painkiller]

There is always hope!!! It is never over until we are mathematically eliminated! I ll be there next sunday cheering them on.

So will I. I'm not giving up, but I'm also being realistic.

The odds are working against us at this point.

[WallyVon]

The only way I regain hope is if the Redskins win next week and both the Cowboys and Giants lose. It's possible, since the Boys and Giants face Denver and Seattle, two good teams.

But not likely.

[twilightsinger]

Thanx 'Skins!! Because of your lame offensive showing today I lost my bet and now have to buy my friend a Raiders jersey. I am NEVER betting for the 'Skins again!! damn!

[jbooma]

The problem with your chart is you have Carolina beating Dallas, that game may mean nothing to them at that point depending what happens in the next few week.

This team has not shown anything to suggest it can win 4 in a row.

I have no clue how we can even beat SD next week.

[smack500]

If your going to do something like this atleast do it right.

I mean whoever did this is idiotic. Your going to tell me were going to beat dallas,NY, and san diego but lose to st. luis? LMAO

[DCNightHawk]

yah, im kinda doubtful of that too... it will be great if it happens but considering that we can't beat Oakland in our home scares me.

[Moz Wanted]

wow buddyyyyy

[The Guru]

5 wins in the next 6 games? 3 wins against teams in our conference? Doesn't look very good to me.

But come on guys, at least the guy is an optimist. We still have 6 games to go, and alot of things can happen in 6 games.

[Billy Bullocks]

Every year when we get down to the final weeks I track which teams need to lose/win in order for the skins to make the playoffs. I really enjoy this, so if you think it's dumb, pointless or wishful thinking - kiss off.

LOL.

You make any knowledgable, respectable Skins fan(if there is such a thing ), look like a moron. I can't stand homers for my team, or for others. Now, besides wishful thikng, what is this based on?

[sircharlz]

This team has not shown anything to suggest it can win 4 in a row.

I have no clue how we can even beat SD next week.


we would only need to split SD/St Louis. but if we lose to SD we would then have to run the table. four in a row right now does seem to be a stretch.


To be realistic we need to catch up with Dallas and win the head to head tiebreaker with them. Figure NY wins the division. Now we need Tampa to finish one game behind us to grab the final wild card.

[risdenks]

Wrong...
just flat out wrong
we'll be lucky to make the playoffs.
but im still hoping

[smack500]

We cant stop gordon and the raiders, but lets mark LT and the chargers down as a win.

[FunBunch7]

Both Dallas and New Yorkl are 7-3 but they still play each other in NY so one is as good as 7-4...We will still get "that" guaranteed 4-loss team back at Fed Ex.

Outside of that matchup in NY in a few weeks, Dallas still hosts Denver on Thanksgiving, Kansas City 2 week later and travel to Carolina week 16. Oh, and they come to Fed Ex.

The Giants play at Seattle next week, host Dallas, then go to Philly, then host the Chiefs, then come to Fed Ex and end their season in Oakland.

Both the Giants and Cowboys have VER tough schedules.

We simply need to win 2 of the next 3 before coming home for the Dallas game.

Outside of our division we have to look at Carolina and Tampa Bay...just like Dal/NYG, both are 7-3 and they still play each other so one is as good as 7-4. The winner will likely win the NFC South so the runner up is no better than 4 losses right now. Atlanta is hanging around at 6-4 but they too have a VER tough schedule.

BOTTOM LINE!!!

We are only one game back in the loss column over the losers of the Dal/NYG loser and the Car/TB loser.

Keep the faith brothers! HTTR!

[Donita35]

There is no way that we get only one more loss. My estimations had us winning the game against Oakland (which we did not), possibly loosing to San Diego and Dallas. (I hate to predict a loss to Dallas but we have to face the fact that we have not swept them in thirty years.) Then we would have been 10-6. Now we have to win the game next week against San Diego and win out to make the playoffs.

This is not a good situation to be in.

[fuji869]

Before today's game I believed we could still win the NFC East. I felt if we took care of business we could win the East with the Giants and Cowboys coming to Fed Ex Field.

We did not take care of business today, we lost a game, at home, against a weaker opponent.

We have to win these games if we want to win the NFC East!!!!! :soapbox:

[GOSKN5]

Hey why dont you guys give him a break... i mean really... I appreciate the effort man... I still have hope in my heart too... nice looking chart man.... if you have to down the person making the thread why even post??? Skins fans are supposed to stick together......

[sith lord]

To be honest, we need to really, really hope the Broncos beat the Cowboys and we "get lucky" and beat the Chargers. Then we'll own our own destiny as far as with the Cowboys. As for the Giants, we just need to be within 1 game of them when we play them in Washington.

[gstahl]

Yup I agree 8-8 here we come another mediocre year. Lots of promise, team can't get it done when they need to. Glad I did not waste my time watching this losing effort. I live in the bay area and everyone here do not expect raiders to to win, they are just not that good.

[HeHateMe]

Skins win 4 straight to end the season?

That Kool-Ade must be delicious!

[bubba9497]

it is possible, with great play and some luck

but right now, after a piss poor showing today, it looks very unlikely.

[jabronijames]

Am I the only one who thinks that we can still win out? Even if we don't, I DO NOT give the Giants or the cowgirls all the credit either. I think they have some chokes left in them as well. I still haven't totally discounted the Eagles either. Come on, guys....Six more games! We need to support them until we are totally out.

[Canadian Hog]

Correction....

The bottom line is that teams who don't take care of their own business and have to look at the scoreboard are asking for trouble come season's end.

The Washington Redskins are currently in that boat.

We have displayed the qualities of the Turner era over the last two weeks. Blow a game late and then follow up with a letdown in a must-win game against a poor team. Thus, we shouldn't be talking playoffs right now.

I'm totally deflated right now. I don't know what to say.

[bubba9497]

Skins win 4 straight to end the season?

That Kool-Ade must be delicious!



better than the stuff poke fans are guzzeling. :D

[bbuzz1962]

Are you smoking crack again?? I thought you quit. How in the hell do you think we can win this division?? We cannot beat the Raiders. We are going to be shellaced by the Chargers next week, and we are still going to win the division hey?? Would you like to put your money where your mouth is?? We still have the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles need I say anything else. Quit the halucanagens and get with it man.

[bubba9497]

Am I the only one who thinks that we can still win out? Even if we don't, I DO NOT give the Giants or the cowgirls all the credit either. I think they have some chokes left in them as well. I still haven't totally discounted the Eagles either. Come on, guys....Six more games! We need to support them until we are totally out.


I did before today

[Billy Bullocks]

Well you guys play San Diego, and for what it's worth, they are alot better than Oakland, or you guys for that matter.
Not to mention, Dallas and NY. I think you MIGHT beat NY, but I'm pretty sure you split with Dallas this year. You don't beat us twice, regardless if it's at FedEx , or Texas Stadium. At Philly? That game, as bad as they are, doesn't seem like a cakewalk. To be honest, what makes you think, in all honesty that you are better than St. Louis, because depending on which team shows up, and your ineptitude in coverage, they could light you up too. At Arizona might be the easiest game you ahve, but they put up some points today, granted it was St. Louis.

5-5, as a Cowboys fan, I wont even say you are out of the playoffs. But I think starting with that NY loss, the true colors of your team have been exposed a bit. I've felt you guys have been overrated all year, however, you guys got the wins early, and that speaks louder than anything else in this league.

You do make some valid points, but I think the NFC East is about where it should be. Dallas and NY are just better teams than you and Philly. Weather or not we deserved to beat Philly is up in the air, but no Redskins fan who takes off the BUrgandy and Gold lenses can really tell me that you should have beat us in Week 2.

I'd wish you good luck, but I think somethign about being a Cowboys fan prevents me from doing so.

[ChicagoRedskinsFan]

Yes there is hope when you break down the schedule and know that we play NY and Dallas at home. But when you look how we've been playing, the hope is more theoretical than reality.

But hey, they only theoretically had a chance to beat the Cowboys when they were down 13-0 with a few minutes left.

Hope is all we have left so I guess I'll cling to it, but the playoffs seem distant now.

[Epistopheles]

After this game, I needed to read something with a little optimism. To Hell w/ these other guys. Thanks for that. I love how all these knuckleheads know how the rest of our season is going to turn out and are ****ting on you for your picks.

I'm pissed off that we're back to playing catch up again (groan), but usually at this point, it's from four games back.

[The Showstopper]

kieep tihnk we will win, we wont tho, if we cant beat a sorry oakland secondary, or stop a subpar tampa O, we sure as hell wont win 5 of 6

[Destino]

This team isn't worthy of the playoffs. The Cowboys and the Giants are further ahead then we are at this point and are earning their way into the post season. We'll be a far better team in Gibbs third year and better prepared at this point next year.

....sucks that we will be giving the Broncos a good first round pick though.

[Painkiller]

Correction....

The bottom line is that teams who don't take care of their own business and have to look at the scoreboard are asking for trouble come season's end.

The Washington Redskins are currently in that boat.

We have displayed the qualities of the Turner era over the last two weeks. Blow a game late and then follow up with a letdown in a must-win game against a poor team. Thus, we shouldn't be talking playoffs right now.

I'm totally deflated right now. I don't know what to say.


Absolutely, 100% agree. We have to win our own games, before we can talk about anybody else. If we don't win, we don't go. I don't want to have to "rely" on somebody else to lose so we can get in the playoffs. If we finish out undefeated, and go 6-0, the Skins will be in the Playoffs. That's all they should worry about.

[GO GO SKINS]

Most of them do not deserve it. They have played ten games and still are making the same mistakes as in the beginning then...they don't deserve to make the playoffs. As fans that is not how we want it, but lets not get disappointed in the playoffs.

[FunBunch7]

WE ARE IN THE HUNT FELLAS'!!!!!!!!!!!!

The original poster is absolutely right...at this point of the season you have to CAREFULLY study each teams schedule that you are competing with...have you guys even done that??? If we are 7-6 coming back for the Dallas game...what else can we aske for?...we will control our own destiny!

I posted in another thread...the NYG/Dal loser will have only won less loss that us...if Dallas loses in NY and we beat them...we will have the head to head tie breaker over them and that is not counting their tougher schedule!

Props to the original poster...good insight...we could even flip flop the Cahrgers as a loss and the Rams as a win.

[FightForOldDC21]

faith baby nice post

[JRAB]

So you think we're going to win 5 of our last 6 games? Really? Wins against San Diego, Dallas, and NY? Really?

You got to be kidding.

Weve won two... count them, two... of our last 7 games, bro. Those two wins against the helpless 49ers and Philly. We're done. No way on God's green earth we win 5 of 6 to end the season. We're not a good team. I'm beginning to wonder if we're even a well coached team.

In that same amount of time NY has won 5 of their last 7 games. Beating us 36-0 in the process. You think they'll split their last 6 games? Funny how suddenly you think the Raiders are a good team. They're not. We're just worse than they are. They're a bad team who was able to come to our house and beat us.

Dallas has won 5 of their last 6 games and that one loss was against Seattle at home and they really shouldn't have lost that one. Plus, in case you haven't been paying attention, they're getting better as the year goes on. So now they're suddenly going to lose 4 of 6? Riiiiiiiiiight. Puff puff pass, remember?

Oh, and you conviniently have Tampa finishing with 4 losses in the last 6 games because you think that's out main competition for a wild card berth.

What you did is just wishful thinking. It's a fantasy.

Just start looking at the draft for your football enjoyment. Oh, wait... we don't have a first round pick. Well there's always basketball.

I swear, this team will be the end of me. Why must we always have constant dissapointment? Why? I have a bet with a guy I work with that we'll win more than seven games this year... I betcha I'm going to end up losing that one. Our arrow is pointed straight down.

[JRAB]

the NYG/Dal loser will have only won less loss that us...if Dallas loses in NY and we beat them...we will have the head to head tie breaker over them and that is not counting their tougher schedule!

That's right. But you fail to take into account that Dallas is a better team than we are and that they'll have more wins that we do when the season end's.

You might as well say that if Dallas loses a bunch, NY loses a bunch, we win all the rest of our games, we win all our playoff games, and we win the super bowl, then we'll be champs of the world.

That's true too. Its just that its as likely as Janet Jackson getting the superbowl halftime gig.

Ain't gonna happen.

[AzSkinsFan63]

Skins with their backs against the wall could be a good thing...wehn you don't have much to lose you can play more aggressive..

[sith lord]

So you think we're going to win 5 of our last 6 games? Really? Wins against San Diego, Dallas, and NY? Really?

You got to be kidding.

Weve won two... count them, two... of our last 7 games, bro. Those two wins against the helpless 49ers and Philly. We're done. No way on God's green earth we win 5 of 6 to end the season. We're not a good team. I'm beginning to wonder if we're even a well coached team.

In that same amount of time NY has won 5 of their last 7 games. Beating us 36-0 in the process. You think they'll split their last 6 games? Funny how suddenly you think the Raiders are a good team. They're not. We're just worse than they are. They're a bad team who was able to come to our house and beat us.

Dallas has won 5 of their last 6 games and that one loss was against Seattle at home and they really shouldn't have lost that one. Plus, in case you haven't been paying attention, they're getting better as the year goes on. So now they're suddenly going to lose 4 of 6? Riiiiiiiiiight. Puff puff pass, remember?

Oh, and you conviniently have Tampa finishing with 4 losses in the last 6 games because you think that's out main competition for a wild card berth.

What you did is just wishful thinking. It's a fantasy.

Just start looking at the draft for your football enjoyment. Oh, wait... we don't have a first round pick. Well there's always basketball.

I swear, this team will be the end of me. Why must we always have constant dissapointment? Why? I have a bet with a guy I work with that we'll win more than seven games this year... I betcha I'm going to end up losing that one. Our arrow is pointed straight down.

Yeah, I hear you. Well, atleast Thanksgiving is this week.

[terpfan]

Dont anybody get your hopes up.

That said, get the damn Cowboys fans of the board allready. I cant handle them right now.

[Craig]

Its also possible that I will win the Mega Millions Lottery

[Joncevensen]

dallas got denver AND kansas city at home! We had to go on the road into those stadiums, everyone should have to do that atleast once.

[Billy Bullocks]

The fact that you guys have not shown alot of consistancy, has to scare you when you realistically need to win 5/6 to close the year. I think you might beat NY, but theres no way Dallas comes into town and loses. SD is a very good team, and they are in teh same boat as you guys, they need to win out to make the playoffs. You can't stop Jordan, how you gonna stop LT.

You can't give up on your team, but you can be realistic. I'm always of the view that you aren't out til you are out. With games like the Dallas game, and seeing Dallas against Philly, you guys should at least have that mentality.

Porter lit you guys up today, and I put alot of that on Harris. The guy is terrible in coverage, and the fact that he is still starting over Rogers might give you a bit of insight on where Rogers is at.

Santana Moss is having a great statistical year, but he gets very little support. Moss isn't a real lead WR. Sorry. The guy is small, and you guys miss a big target for key 3rd downs. The O-Line isn't that great. You fail to get a pass rush. You guys were simply outplayed today by the Raiders. And let me say, in your defense, they are alot better than their record. It was a close game, with 2 teams that should be about .500. That's just a fact. I think Oakland may have taken whatever Aura Fed Ex had going for it earlier this year.

[AzSkinsFan63]

6 out of 6 guaranteed division

5 out of 6 Wild Card a lock

4 out of 6 could still get in but need help and I got news for you, we ain't getting any help from anyone..

[bubba9497]

the ravens lost 4 in a row in mid season (icluding a loss to the Skins), before going on a roll at the end

[Craig]

Stop sniffing glue

[Spaceman Spiff]

have about as much chance of that happening as eva longoria jumping out of my tv tonight and landing on my bed.

[Billy Bullocks]

Difference, Dallas and NY can go 3-3 over the course of the season and make the playoffs. You have to win 5/6, and when your 2 for 7 in recent weeks, you kinda get a sense, that might be alot harder than you think. Beside Arizona, there isn't a real gimme on the schedule. And Zona proved they can throw up big points. Teams with more than 1 good WR have given you guys fits this year. You simply don't get to the QB, and Harris is just lost out there. He got exposed today, again.

[sith lord]

This team isn't worthy of the playoffs. The Cowboys and the Giants are further ahead then we are at this point and are earning their way into the post season. We'll be a far better team in Gibbs third year and better prepared at this point next year.

Maybe. There's no gaurantee that we'll be better naxt year.

[Painkiller]

I picked a hell of a day to


Stop sniffing glue

:laugh:

[gex]

i predict we will not be in the playoffs!

[bubba9497]

but theres no way Dallas comes into town and loses

don't bet on it


lets remember we have played the toughest schedule in the NFC and the Giants and Pokes have played much easier schedule and more home games.

their real test is still coming up, and most of the Pokes wins have hardly been impressive.

[LJackson]

Whatever.

Sure.

Oh, by the way, monkeys might fly out of your butt too!

[sith lord]

don't bet on it


lets remember we have played the toughest schedule in the NFC and the Giants and Pokes have played much easier schedule and more home games.

their real test is still coming up, and most of the Pokes wins have hardly been impressive.

Yeah, but a win is a win. And as much as we hate Dallas, you can't deny that they're starting to hit a stride.

[sircharlz]

Hey why dont you guys give him a break... i mean really... I appreciate the effort man... I still have hope in my heart too... nice looking chart man.... if you have to down the person making the thread why even post??? Skins fans are supposed to stick together......


Thanks.

I knew this thread would bring a lot of critizism. However, there are a lot of fans out there who always look for the best instead of tearing into someone for holding onto hope.

[bubba9497]

Yeah, but a win is a win. And as much as we hate Dallas, you can't deny that they're starting to hit a stride.

it's coming to an end.... too many people discount strength of schedule.

Dallas has had an easy go round that ends Thursday

[FunBunch7]

Dallas has BOTH the Broncos AND Chiefs in Dallas plus the Giants game in New York sandwiched in between. It is not out of the relm of possibiity that they go 1-2 during this stretch which would put them at 8-5 when they come to Fed Ex.

The Giants are at Seattle and at Philly with Dallas sandwiched in between. They too could go 1-2 which would put them at 8-5.

If we can split with the Chargers and Rams plus win at Arzona...it will put us at 7-6 when we go to host the Cowbopys and Giants in successive weeks.

The key is New York losing next week in Seattle and Dallas dropping one vs. the Broncos or Chiefs. This will be a nice Thanksgiving if they lose to the Broncos.

This isn't even taking into consideration the Wild Card scenarios against the runners up in the South.

Kepp the faith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HTTR!

[bubba9497]

Dallas has BOTH the Broncos AND Chiefs in Dallas plus the Giants game in New York sandwiched in between. It is not out of the relm of possibiity that they go 1-2 during this stretch which would put them at 8-5 when they come to Fed Ex.

The Giants are at Seattle and at Philly with Dallas sandwiched in between. They too could go 1-2 which would put them at 8-5.

If we can split with the Chargers and Rams plus win at Arzona...it will put us at 7-6 when we go to host the Cowbopys and Giants in successive weeks.

The key is New York losing next week in Seattle and Dallas dropping one vs. the Broncos or Chiefs. This will be a nice Thanksgiving if they lose to the Broncos.

This isn't even taking into consideration the Wild Card scenarios against the runners up in the South.

Kepp the faith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HTTR!


the problem is we looked terrible at home losing to Oakland after a 10 point halftime lead, and many are doubting we would go 2-1, and don't think we can then win out.

I am not counting them out, but I am less optimistic after today.

[GOSKN5]

Its also possible that I will win the Mega Millions Lottery


Not if you dont buy a ticket......

O and guess what someone will win that lottery.... think about it.....

[MONTEY]

So you think we're going to win 5 of our last 6 games? Really? Wins against San Diego, Dallas, and NY? Really?

You got to be kidding.

Weve won two... count them, two... of our last 7 games, bro. Those two wins against the helpless 49ers and Philly. We're done. No way on God's green earth we win 5 of 6 to end the season. We're not a good team. I'm beginning to wonder if we're even a well coached team.

In that same amount of time NY has won 5 of their last 7 games. Beating us 36-0 in the process. You think they'll split their last 6 games? Funny how suddenly you think the Raiders are a good team. They're not. We're just worse than they are. They're a bad team who was able to come to our house and beat us.

Dallas has won 5 of their last 6 games and that one loss was against Seattle at home and they really shouldn't have lost that one. Plus, in case you haven't been paying attention, they're getting better as the year goes on. So now they're suddenly going to lose 4 of 6? Riiiiiiiiiight. Puff puff pass, remember?

Oh, and you conviniently have Tampa finishing with 4 losses in the last 6 games because you think that's out main competition for a wild card berth.

What you did is just wishful thinking. It's a fantasy.

Just start looking at the draft for your football enjoyment. Oh, wait... we don't have a first round pick. Well there's always basketball.

I swear, this team will be the end of me. Why must we always have constant dissapointment? Why? I have a bet with a guy I work with that we'll win more than seven games this year... I betcha I'm going to end up losing that one. Our arrow is pointed straight down.

Nice post. It's sad but true.

[JRAB]

it's coming to an end.... too many people discount strength of schedule.

Dallas has had an easy go round that ends Thursday


With all due respect bubba, you've been saying something like this most of the season, and they just keep winning.

You say, "they should've lost that game", or "they haven't played anyone yet", but they just keep winning.

They've beaten the Chargers, they've beaten the Giants, they've beaten Philly twice (it's hard to sweep a division opponent). The easy teams they've played they beat, just like they were supposed to. Their losses have been against a desperate Oakland squad at Oakland, a Good Seattle team in Seattle, and us.

One of the things we used to point to proving that Dallas wasn't very good was that they lost to Oakland in Oakland. Well, we just got beat by them at FedEx.

The Cowboys had the Seattle game in hand (In Seattle) and just blew it at the end. They outplayed the Seahawks.

You know what happened against us. Whether out two scores were luck or not, they dominated us for all but the last 5 min.

And that's all of their losses. Just three.

I hope you're right and they fall apart in the last 6 games, but I just don't see it. They've been getting better as their young guys get experience and they've been playing solid football.

I don't think it's accurate to sit and say things are about to change for them. They play a physical, mistake free brand of football that will only serve them better as the season wears on and the weather becomes a factor.

It all goes back to when Parcells signed on with them. I knew right then that they were going to be a good football team eventually. I just thought that Gibbs would have us right there with them.

Parcells has been there one more year than Gibbs, so maybe by next year Gibbs will have us equal with Dallas.

I friggin hate Parcells. I hate Dallas. Right now, I just hate football. After starting 3-0, I never would have thought we'd be sitting at 5-5 after 10 games.

Pfffftttt. I'm done for tonight.

[Spaceman Spiff]

So you think we're going to win 5 of our last 6 games? Really? Wins against San Diego, Dallas, and NY? Really?

You got to be kidding.

Weve won two... count them, two... of our last 7 games, bro. Those two wins against the helpless 49ers and Philly. We're done. No way on God's green earth we win 5 of 6 to end the season. We're not a good team. I'm beginning to wonder if we're even a well coached team.

In that same amount of time NY has won 5 of their last 7 games. Beating us 36-0 in the process. You think they'll split their last 6 games? Funny how suddenly you think the Raiders are a good team. They're not. We're just worse than they are. They're a bad team who was able to come to our house and beat us.

Dallas has won 5 of their last 6 games and that one loss was against Seattle at home and they really shouldn't have lost that one. Plus, in case you haven't been paying attention, they're getting better as the year goes on. So now they're suddenly going to lose 4 of 6? Riiiiiiiiiight. Puff puff pass, remember?

Oh, and you conviniently have Tampa finishing with 4 losses in the last 6 games because you think that's out main competition for a wild card berth.

What you did is just wishful thinking. It's a fantasy.

Just start looking at the draft for your football enjoyment. Oh, wait... we don't have a first round pick. Well there's always basketball.

I swear, this team will be the end of me. Why must we always have constant dissapointment? Why? I have a bet with a guy I work with that we'll win more than seven games this year... I betcha I'm going to end up losing that one. Our arrow is pointed straight down.

Well said, well said. can't say it any better.

[born skins fan]

Hey Billy, Please come back and talk to us after you play the broncos.

[HeHateMe]

Excellent post JRAB.

As a Dallas fan, Im not sure I couldve put it better myself.

[bubba9497]

With all due respect bubba, you've been saying something like this most of the season, and they just keep winning.

You say, "they should've lost that game", or "they haven't played anyone yet", but they just keep winning.

They've beaten the Chargers, they've beaten the Giants, they've beaten Philly twice (it's hard to sweep a division opponent). The easy teams they've played they beat, just like they were supposed to. Their losses have been against a desperate Oakland squad at Oakland, a Good Seattle team in Seattle, and us.

One of the things we used to point to proving that Dallas wasn't very good was that they lost to Oakland in Oakland. Well, we just got beat by them at FedEx.

The Cowboys had the Seattle game in hand (In Seattle) and just blew it at the end. They outplayed the Seahawks.

You know what happened against us. Whether out two scores were luck or not, they dominated us for all but the last 5 min.

And that's all of their losses. Just three.

I hope you're right and they fall apart in the last 6 games, but I just don't see it. They've been getting better as their young guys get experience and they've been playing solid football.

I don't think it's accurate to sit and say things are about to change for them. They play a physical, mistake free brand of football that will only serve them better as the season wears on and the weather becomes a factor.

It all goes back to when Parcells signed on with them. I knew right then that they were going to be a good football team eventually. I just thought that Gibbs would have us right there with them.

Parcells has been there one more year than Gibbs, so maybe by next year Gibbs will have us equal with Dallas.

I friggin hate Parcells. I hate Dallas. Right now, I just hate football. After starting 3-0, I never would have thought we'd be sitting at 5-5 after 10 games.

Pfffftttt. I'm done for tonight.

dude you like everyone else forgets the close wins the Cowboys lucked into.

They beat the Chargers without Gates, and got a huge call to keep their last scoring drive alive, they just barely beat San Fran, they catch a big break when jacobs fumbled the go ahead TD on the goal line, andbeat the Giants in OT despite the fact both teams had 4 turnovers each. And The last Philly game was a gift if ever there was one.

In fact they have only played two games where they won decidedly The first Eagles game (when they first started falling) and today against a bad Lions team. They are getting ready to play the part of their schedule we went 2-4 through.

The season is a marathon, 16 games it doesn't matter where the wins and losses come... at the end of the year they all add up.


Yes we lost to the Raiders, but that is one loss from 5-4, and before the loss we weren't so sure the Skins were out of it. If this team can get both the offense & defense playing together we will win . But that is a big IF

[Eli The Future]

You guys are going to need one of the top 2 to completely fold, AND hope that you can stay ahead of Atlanta or Tampa for that final wild card spot. You already lose the tie breaker with Tampa.

Anything can happen in the NFL, but its hard to see a team that is 2-5 in their last 7 games not only getting to 10 wins, but having all that other stuff happen for them in the process

[#1SkinsFan]

Are you smoking crack again?? I thought you quit. How in the hell do you think we can win this division?? We cannot beat the Raiders. We are going to be shellaced by the Chargers next week, and we are still going to win the division hey?? Would you like to put your money where your mouth is?? We still have the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles need I say anything else. Quit the halucanagens and get with it man.
the cowboys lost to the raiders also, and look where there at now.

dont count us out after a few bad games. this team still has a lot of talent and the season isnt over yet. We can still make a late season run, and possibly grab a wild card or win the division

[Kilmer17]

You're on crack if you think this team can win more than 2 of their last 6 games.

[bubba9497]

You guys are going to need one of the top 2 to completely fold, AND hope that you can stay ahead of Atlanta or Tampa for that final wild card spot. You already lose the tie breaker with Tampa.

Anything can happen in the NFL, but its hard to see a team that is 2-5 in their last 7 games not only getting to 10 wins, but having all that other stuff happen for them in the process


happens every season for a team to get on a late roll. Buffalo last season, The Ravens their Superbowl year...etc..

it is not impossible.

And I have faith in Dallas & The Giants, I have said all season the last 6-8 games will expose them, and they haven't shown anything for me to change my opinion.

though I am not as confident about the Skins after today.

[Hail_Skinz]

We cant stop gordon and the raiders, but lets mark LT and the chargers down as a win.

What do you mean? Jordan was held to 52 yards 27 carries....that's less than 2 yards per carry!!! Our problem (as of late) is against the pass!!!

We REALLY need Griffin back ASAP...it seems when he is on the field we at least exert some sort of pressure on the QB...which takes a lot of pressure of of our secondary....sheesh~

[sith lord]

What do you mean? Jordan was held to 52 yards 27 carries....that's less than 2 yards per carry!!! Our problem (as of late) is against the pass!!!

We REALLY need Griffin back ASAP...it seems when he is on the field we at least exert some sort of pressure on the QB...which takes a lot of pressure of of our secondary....sheesh~

Were we really getting anymore pressure on the QB when Griffin was in there?

[bubba9497]

What do you mean? Jordan was held to 52 yards 27 carries....that's less than 2 yards per carry!!! Our problem (as of late) is against the pass!!!

We REALLY need Griffin back ASAP...it seems when he is on the field we at least exert some sort of pressure on the QB...which takes a lot of pressure of of our secondary....sheesh~

He should be back Sunday :fingersx:


you know If we somehow upset the Chargers Sunday, 99% of these gloomy Gus' will be back talking playoffs.

[bubba9497]

Were we really getting anymore pressure on the QB when Griffin was in there?


yes we were, we were the #1 pass defense before he went out,

[wsmith_1972]

If the 'skin beat the Chargers, they will have a glimmer of hope.

Thoses that think the skins still have a chance if they lose to the Chargers are just...:applause:

[JRAB]

dude you like everyone else forgets the close wins the Cowboys lucked into.

They beat the Chargers without Gates, and got a huge call to keep their last scoring drive alive, they just barely beat San Fran, they catch a big break when jacobs fumbled the go ahead TD on the goal line, andbeat the Giants in OT despite the fact both teams had 4 turnovers each. And The last Philly game was a gift if ever there was one.

In fact they have only played two games where they won decidedly The first Eagles game (when they first started falling) and today against a bad Lions team. They are getting ready to play the part of their schedule we went 2-4 through.

The season is a marathon, 16 games it doesn't matter where the wins and losses come... at the end of the year they all add up.


Yes we lost to the Raiders, but that is one loss from 5-4, and before the loss we weren't so sure the Skins were out of it. If this team can get both the offense & defense playing together we will win . But that is a big IF

Well bubba, you are right that the season isn't done. I'm just so depressed that it seems that way. There are scenarios where we could still pull it out and go to the playoffs as a wild card or even division winner.

That seems pretty far fetched to me right now though. I just keep thinking that we've lost 5 of our last seven. And look at who we beat. Everyone is beating both of those teams. We slaughtered the 49ers, but we just squeaked by the Eagles... and that's the only two wins we've had in almost two months of football. Certainly that can't be what you had in mind when we started 3-0.

And as far as discounting Dallas. You're forgeting their win against Arizona. They killed them. That gives them decisive wins in 3 of their games. Philly, Arizona and Detroit. They beat the snot out of all 3 of them.

In their 2nd game against the Eagles in Philly, they came out flat and played with little emotion and still was able to win in the end. It was a lot like what we did to them in week 2. That win worried me because they obviously were really off in that game, and their game plan was all wrong. It was like Philly knew what they were going to do before they did it. In those games, the un-emotional team usually gets smoked, particularly on Monday night when the home crowd is going nuts like it was in Philly. But because they played with few mistakes and penalties, they still came back and won the thing. That worried me more than their big win against Philly, or Arizona, or Detroit. By all accounts the score should've been something like the game where we came out flat against the Giants. But it wasn't. That says a lot about the cowboys and what kind of team Parcells has put together.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that win worried me more than any other win they've had this year. It worries me for the same reasons I loved our week 2 win against Dallas.

We have faultered after that though, so maybe they will too. Who knows, perhaps we'll close out strong and the Cowboys will fall on their faces, but I'm afraid it won't happen.

If we can't win the East, I hope NY does. I'd much rather see them do it than Dallas.

I hope Denver puts them in their place on Thursday and then NY beats their ass at the Meadowlands.

If Dallas beats Denver though, look out.

[Eli The Future]

And I have faith in Dallas & The Giants, I have said all season the last 6-8 games will expose them

If the last 6-8 games have exposed 1 thing in this division, it isnt anything deragtory about the Giants or Cowboys

You guys got hyped for a 3-0 start in 3 games you could have easily lost. You've since lost 3-4 games you could have won. Thats the definition of mediocrity. You play close games every week because you arent good enough to get seperation on anybody. Your record is 5-5 and it couldnt be more appropriate for the talent level and the way youve played

This is a 2 team race. You are closer to last place right now then you are to 1st

[Hail_Skinz]

Were we really getting anymore pressure on the QB when Griffin was in there?

Well...I did say it "seemed". Heh Heh..

It just felt like we were a better team when he was on the field

[marsbennett]

we have to win 5 out of the next 6 to win the division.
It's possible, but unlikely
Skins will be fortunate to win 3 more games this season.














and then, depression set in.

[/stripes]

[BigDFan5]

dude you like everyone else forgets the close wins the Cowboys lucked into.

They beat the Chargers without Gates, and got a huge call to keep their last scoring drive alive, they just barely beat San Fran, they catch a big break when jacobs fumbled the go ahead TD on the goal line, andbeat the Giants in OT despite the fact both teams had 4 turnovers each. And The last Philly game was a gift if ever there was one.

In fact they have only played two games where they won decidedly The first Eagles game (when they first started falling) and today against a bad Lions team. They are getting ready to play the part of their schedule we went 2-4 through.



Your memory seems to be failing you Bubba

There was no huge call on our last scoring drive to keep the drive alive there were 2 penalties on that drive 1 on us 1 on Chargers both 5 yard penaltys theirs gave us a 1st down yet we still drove the filed and scored.

Against the Giants Jacobs did not fumble the "go ahead" TD he fumbled a game tying TD with 1:18 left in the game if he would have scored we would have had time to get the game winning FG in regulation his fumbled actually benifitted them by giving us bad field position

We have won 3 games big not 2 like you said.


You can keep hoping for the collapse but its not coming. I heard you repeatedly say we would win 2 games in the second half of the season well we won those 2 in the first 2 games of the second half

[Hail_Skinz]

If the last 6-8 games have exposed 1 thing in this division, it isnt anything deragtory about the Giants or Cowboys

You guys got hyped for a 3-0 start in 3 games you could have easily lost. You've since lost 3-4 games you could have won. Thats the definition of mediocrity. You play close games every week because you arent good enough to get seperation on anybody. Your record is 5-5 and it couldnt be more appropriate for the talent level and the way youve played

This is a 2 team race. You are closer to last place right now then you are to 1st

Ya know...I read your posts week in and week out and you constantly talk down to the Redskins like you're some sort of elitist. The fact of the matter is the Giants haven't looked all that well the past few weeks either. You hardly beat the Iggles who has no QB, no #1 WR, and no running game. Although, I would say that the Gnats are a better team than the Skins RIGHT NOW...you're Big Blue isn't too far from mediocrity either buddy....AND when the Blue comes to Fed Ex (if we're completely eliminated by then)...I hope we spoil your postseason.

I mean seriously...why would you come to this board and post your garbage after we've just suffered a tough loss? I mean...get a life, dude

:gaintsuck

[HeHateMe]

dude you like everyone else forgets the close wins the Cowboys lucked into.

They beat the Chargers without Gates, and got a huge call to keep their last scoring drive alive, they just barely beat San Fran, they catch a big break when jacobs fumbled the go ahead TD on the goal line, andbeat the Giants in OT despite the fact both teams had 4 turnovers each. And The last Philly game was a gift if ever there was one.

In fact they have only played two games where they won decidedly The first Eagles game (when they first started falling) and today against a bad Lions team. They are getting ready to play the part of their schedule we went 2-4 through.

The season is a marathon, 16 games it doesn't matter where the wins and losses come... at the end of the year they all add up.


Yes we lost to the Raiders, but that is one loss from 5-4, and before the loss we weren't so sure the Skins were out of it. If this team can get both the offense & defense playing together we will win . But that is a big IF

We smoked Arizona too. :D

[bubba9497]

We smoked Arizona too. :D

well then Superbowl bound

[bubba9497]

Your memory seems to be failing you Bubba

There was no huge call on our last scoring drive to keep the drive alive there were 2 penalties on that drive 1 on us 1 on Chargers both 5 yard penaltys theirs gave us a 1st down yet we still drove the filed and scored.

Against the Giants Jacobs did not fumble the "go ahead" TD he fumbled a game tying TD with 1:18 left in the game if he would have scored we would have had time to get the game winning FG in regulation his fumbled actually benifitted them by giving us bad field position

We have won 3 games big not 2 like you said.


You can keep hoping for the collapse but its not coming. I heard you repeatedly say we would win 2 games in the second half of the season well we won those 2 in the first 2 games of the second half


big differences, and I do remember a call aiding the last TD drive,

since the Gints scored again the point stays the same

I forgot the Cards... real impressive :yawnee:

talk to me in a few weeks, I doubt you'll be as cocky :laugh:

[TheLongshot]

So after the game and venting a bit on the board, I went for a run, took a shower, had a nice dinner with my wife, cuddled in front of the TV and mostly got away from the game.

During that time, I took a lot of thought into the season so far, and into people's comments about the loss. The main thing that struck me was the comments that "the season is over".

If I'm not mistaken, there are six games left.

Yes, I know. The possibilities of going to the playoffs is awfully dim right now, and certainly, this team isn't deserving. Personally, I accepted the fact that this wasn't a playoff calibur team back when the lost to the Chiefs. Really, we all probably should have realised this from the beginning, when we found out that the pass rush wasn't going to magically appear this year. But, with the 3-0 start, we started believing this team could do more. Problem is, the weaknesses of this team was going to show up sooner or later, and now everyone knows.

So, what is the reaction to this? Some want to wail in despair. Others want to dismantle this team, trading every great player we got because we got to "rebuild". Neither reaction is correct.

I understand the frustration. We Skins fans don't take losing well. Those of us who were fans from the Gibbs era are used to winning. Those of us who suffered through Norv and on, are frustrated that it has taken so long to get back to the promised land. But, we must not lose faith because it hasn't happened right now.

Despite all the frustrations, this team has made progress this year. The offense has performed far beyond expectations. We removed players who didn't want to be a part of this, and in the end, we are better for it. Some might say the defense regressed, but I don't think it is that so much as other teams figured out what we were doing, and found away to counter that. It was hoped that if that happened, the injured talent that was comming back on defense this year would be enough to counter that. Unfortunatly, it wasn't.

So, what is left for this year?


We are still alive for the playoffs. Yes, I know what I just said. At the same time, you still need to play the games, and you never know what might happen. So, let's not make any silly moves until the point were we are officially eliminated, like starting Campbell.

Pride. Sounds silly, but that does have importance in going into the offseason. Finishing strong can go a long way to feeling good about yourself. Remember, we are one win from tying last season. Getting 3 or 4 is a real possibility, and finishing at .500 or better would really help during the offseason.

Evaluation. The way we play down the stretch will determine the fate of many players. There are young guys that we should find out about. Considering the injuries, Taylor Jacobs will get an extra long tryout. I also think that we should take a look at Robert Johnson. It seems pretty obvious that Royal isn't the answer at TE, and it looks that at least physically, he fits what Gibbs usually likes at TE. Also, Rogers probably should be worked into the starting lineup as the season goes on, since more than likely, he's going to be starting next year. As for Campbell, I only see that making sense if we are completely out of it.

As for the state of this team, I like it. I think we are pretty close. What I think we need is a complement to Moss, a pass rusher (you read that right. I think Wynn is fine as the other end, but he needs someone stronger across from him.), some backups on both lines and maybe a corner or two to compete for spots. That isn't a whole lot. It gives me hope that we will be competitive for next year and beyond.

I know it is frustrating and that it is hard to have patience, but this staff does seem to know what they are doing. So, let's try to enjoy the rest of this season and hope for the future, because the hope is there.

Jason

[Fighting for old D.C.]

Yeah, you know what, you're right. I've been a Redskins fan since I knew what football was (which was about 1995) and we have made the playoffs ONCE and had season where we had double digit wins ONCE. Since 11 of the last 12 seasons (dating back to 1993) have been absolute failures, let's just keep hoping for the future. What's eleven years of failure anyway? That's no big deal. Who cares. Let's just hope for the future. Good idea. We'll probably be hoping for the future 30 years from now too.

[JRAB]

We smoked Arizona too. :D

We beat the everlivin' crap out of San Fran... what'd ya'll do to them?

Don't be too smug. Even though the fortunes of our two teams seem to be pointed in decidedly different directions, in the NFL you never know how things will end up.

[jcblanco22]

big differences, and I do remember a call aiding the last TD drive,

since the Gints scored again the point stays the same

I forgot the Cards... real impressive :yawnee:

talk to me in a few weeks, I doubt you'll be as cocky :laugh:

Incidentally, I would think Roy Williams had something to do with Brandon Jacobs fumbling at the goaline in that game.

I think the reason "the Eagles started failing" as you put it, had a lot to do with the beating Dallas put on them that day, and that was with Terrell Owens in the lineup and healthy.

An Eagles team by the way, that the Redskins barely beat at FedEx without Owens in the lineup, and whose QB also gave the Redskins "a gift if there ever was one" with that interception thrown right at Ryan Clark on the final drive.

[kleese]

I feel awful too. Not just about these two losses, but I feel as if the season is slipping (if it hasn't already slipped) away.

But as always, the post-game reaction on the board is clouding some facts.

We are 5-5.

10-6 gives us approx. a 95% chance of making the playoffs.

At worst, most of us would at least like the final three games to mean SOMETHING other than pride.

So, in order to earn that playoff berth, we need to go 5-1.

But in order to make that Dallas game matter, we need to go 2-1 over the next three.

If we enter the Dallas game at 7-6, we'll at least give ourselves a chance. At least the Dallas game will matter. And if we beat Dallas, then at least the Giants game will matter. And if we beat the Giants...... you get my drift.

Chargers, Rams, Cardinals.

Win two of those = we at least can take a shot at the NFC East teams.

Now, REALISTICALLY speaking, I'm not sure any of this is all that probable. It's very hard to see us beating San Diego right now, and logic might dictate that we split the games with the Rams and Cards. In that case, we'd be 6-7, and we'd have only a very slim playoff life.

So two more losses and we're done for all intents and purposes.

But rather than look at the long view, let's focus on something we all want.

We all want that Dallas game to matter. In order for that to happen, we need to win 2 of the next 3, period. So even if we lose next week, our life support will still be flickering. And if we WIN next week, then we can pretty much be assured of getting to 7-6.

I am NOT being an apologist here. I am not defending the team in any way. I have NO confidence right now and I think we'll be 6-7 heading into the Dallas game with lots of "would coulda shoulda's" on our mind.

But I think it's important to know the facts before you slit your wrist.

The fact remains that we can still play games in mid-late December that matter.

I feel awful about the game today and I'm not feeling good about the team overall. But I've been dreaming for years about playing in meaningful late season divisional games, and I just can't let it go until it's over.

[HeHateMe]

We beat the everlivin' crap out of San Fran... what'd ya'll do to them?

Don't be too smug. Even though the fortunes of our two teams seem to be pointed in decidedly different directions, in the NFL you never know how things will end up.

Not being smug at all.

But Bubba left out our 3rd "easy" victory.

Just pointing it out.

Nothing more, nothing less.

In fact, I think we were average at best today and were "lucky" to win "easy" as we did today.

Trust me, it wasnt "easy" at all.

[BigDFan5]

big differences, and I do remember a call aiding the last TD drive,

since the Gints scored again the point stays the same

I forgot the Cards... real impressive :yawnee:

talk to me in a few weeks, I doubt you'll be as cocky :laugh:


Like I said we had 1 penalty they had 1 penalty there is no way around the truth

Giants scored again rendering that TO as a non factor so that excuse holds no water

yeah Wins are never impressive are they. Funny a few weeks ago you were using us losing to oakland in your posts about us sucking why did that change?

[HeHateMe]

big differences, and I do remember a call aiding the last TD drive,

since the Gints scored again the point stays the same

I forgot the Cards... real impressive :yawnee:

talk to me in a few weeks, I doubt you'll be as cocky :laugh:

As you love to say, "We'll see".

Hardly being cocky though.

Just pointing out the facts.

[Destino]

I'm not happy with the coaching staff or the FO right now. But even still I think that net year, the 3rd since Gibbs return, will be our strongest in a long time.

[BrunellSuperbowl]

end of the yr wins under non pressure situations are worthless


last yr i thought we were building something with ramsey, he went in tough places and did not turn the ball over

this yr we let pierce go , let smoot go

bench ramsey


back to where were to begin last yr

the only way to get better is to play young guys and hope they turn out to be difference makers. JOPA found that out in Penn State

they were calling for him to be fired. He is too old, so he got desperate and played freshmen, benched his so called stars who did nothing on the feild


skins are going to have to do the same thing, play nemo, play campbell , and hit the ground running

this brunell portis story has to end, it has been 20 games of brunell portis, and it has proved to be a nothing combo

try something new

[bubba9497]

Incidentally, I would think Roy Williams had something to do with Brandon Jacobs fumbling at the goaline in that game.

I think the reason "the Eagles started failing" as you put it, had a lot to do with the beating Dallas put on them that day, and that was with Terrell Owens in the lineup and healthy.

An Eagles team by the way, that the Redskins barely beat at FedEx without Owens in the lineup, and whose QB also gave the Redskins "a gift if there ever was one" with that interception thrown right at Ryan Clark on the final drive.


Hardly, the eagles limped into Dallas hurting, and the TO second flair up was just starting.

JAcobs standing straight up, had more to do with the fumble than anything the cowboys did, don't flatter yourselfs too much.

again talk to me in a few weeks when you play the tough part of your schedule.

[TheLongshot]

Yeah, you know what, you're right. I've been a Redskins fan since I knew what football was (which was about 1995) and we have made the playoffs ONCE and had season where we had double digit wins ONCE. Since 11 of the last 12 seasons (dating back to 1993) have been absolute failures, let's just keep hoping for the future. What's eleven years of failure anyway? That's no big deal. Who cares. Let's just hope for the future. Good idea. We'll probably be hoping for the future 30 years from now too.

You don't know futility. Ask a Cubs fan. (Like my wife ;) )

I will also say that, unlike Norv, we have actually made forward progress for a couple of seasons. Norv had the nasty habit of keeping on the same level, being good enough to be a tease, but never good enough to go over the top.

I think we are building something good here, and we don't have to worry much about losing good players after this year. (Other than Betts)

Jason

[bubba9497]

As you love to say, "We'll see".

Hardly being cocky though.

Just pointing out the facts.


wasn't calling you cocky

yes we will see :D

[BrunellSuperbowl]

I'm not happy with the coaching staff or the FO right now. But even still I think that net year, the 3rd since Gibbs return, will be our strongest in a long time.

the coaching staff and FO is lost


i still do not know what we are are on offense, a west coast offense or a power running offense, We have no power back but we run up the gut, yet we run these short passing , accept for today where we only tried to go deep under double coverage


weird

[Craig]

I'm not happy with the coaching staff or the FO right now. But even still I think that net year, the 3rd since Gibbs return, will be our strongest in a long time.

With the Redskins, it is always next year, isn't it...

[bubba9497]

Like I said we had 1 penalty they had 1 penalty there is no way around the truth

Giants scored again rendering that TO as a non factor so that excuse holds no water

yeah Wins are never impressive are they. Funny a few weeks ago you were using us losing to oakland in your posts about us sucking why did that change?


you are dense aren't you?

when did TO start playing for the giants?

What exactly does the Skins losing have anything to do with the Cowboys, lucking out in 4 of their wins, and playing a much easier schedule so far??

If the Pokes are half as good as you think, the next six games will be a cakewalk, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[jcblanco22]

Hardly, the eagles limped into Dallas hurting, and the TO second flair up was just starting.

JAcobs standing straight up, had more to do with the fumble than anything the cowboys did, don't flatter yourselfs too much.

again talk to me in a few weeks when you play the tough part of your schedule.

Who was hurt when the Eagles came into Dallas? McNabb, Owens, Westbrook, Gordon, Lewis, L.J. Smith all started and played. Trotter, Kearse, Dawkins, Sheppard, etc. all started and played. The second flair up was not just starting, that occurred afterwards.

Impossible to say what had more to do with the fumble without us being in either Jacobs's or Williams's shoes.

I notice you failed to address the Ryan Clark interception. I suppose you could tell me that it was a credit to Gregg Williams and Clark for the scheme and execution, except that then you'd have to give Mike Zimmer and Roy Williams the same credit on the play last Monday night. I do recall reading a quote from McNabb this week crediting Roy Williams for making a great read on the play.

[TheLongshot]

end of the yr wins under non pressure situations are worthless

So, you are saying there is no difference between bombing out at the end of a season, or winning some games at the end of the season, some of which could be division rivals?


skins are going to have to do the same thing, play nemo, play campbell , and hit the ground running

this brunell portis story has to end, it has been 20 games of brunell portis, and it has proved to be a nothing combo

try something new

That's been the story since Norv has been fired. Hasn't worked too well, has it?

Edit: ironic that your name is BrunellSuperbowl. Maybe you should change your name?

Jason

[HeHateMe]

Hardly, the eagles limped into Dallas hurting, and the TO second flair up was just starting.

JAcobs standing straight up, had more to do with the fumble than anything the cowboys did, don't flatter yourselfs too much.

again talk to me in a few weeks when you play the tough part of your schedule.

If we come away 10-6, I'll be content.

Of course I'd like more, but going 3-3 when we have Denver, KC and St.Louis at home and NYG, Washington and Carolina on the road; well, I'll certainly take 3-3.

4-2 would be great, and 5-1 would be just dandy.

But realistically, 3-3.

And thats just fine.

[Destino]

We have won 2 of our last 7 games....I'm sorry but I can't see us going 5-1.

When the defense plays well, the offense sucks....when the offense plays well the defense rolls over. We give up turnovers and generate none. We give up the big play. We get a small lead then play it safe allowing teams to stay in the game. We can't win on the road. We play down to bad teams. Punter sucks. Qb went from hot to unpredictable. OL can't handle good DEs. DL can't put pressure on any QB in the league.

There is just too much that has gone wrong to think 5-1 right now.

[F Landry]

end of the yr wins under non pressure situations are worthless


last yr i thought we were building something with ramsey, he went in tough places and did not turn the ball over

this yr we let pierce go , let smoot go

bench ramsey


back to where were to begin last yr

the only way to get better is to play young guys and hope they turn out to be difference makers. JOPA found that out in Penn State

they were calling for him to be fired. He is too old, so he got desperate and played freshmen, benched his so called stars who did nothing on the feild


skins are going to have to do the same thing, play nemo, play campbell , and hit the ground running

this brunell portis story has to end, it has been 20 games of brunell portis, and it has proved to be a nothing combo

try something new
I guess I can understand you wanting Brunnell to be benched. Although I don't agree, that isn't too outlandish.

However, I find it amazing that you ACTUALLY want to bench Portis in favor of Nemo. Hes a damned 6th round draft pick! Are you crazy?

I'm just completely amazed. :doh:

[Bad Man Burgendy & Gold]

Mathematically you are correct, logically Longshot, this season is indeed over.

[TheLongshot]

Mathematically you are correct, logically Longshot, this season is indeed over.

Logically, there are six games left in the season.

:silly:

Jason

[scruffylookin]

I agree.

We beat SD. (tough)
Denver beats Dallas (they will)
Seattle beats the Giants (they will)

7-4 Dal
7-4 NYG
6-5 Wsh

We beat a reeling Rams team
Dallas and NY play eachother (let's say the giants win because they're in NY)

8-4 NYG
7-5 Wsh
7-5 Dal

Skins beat Arz
Giants probably beat Philly
Cowboys face a tough test at home vs. KC
Even if Dallas and NYG win, as long as we win, we'll be in it come the final 3 games.

9-4 NYG
8-5 Wsh
8-5 Dal

The season is not over, though I admit that it feels like it is right now.

We just need to get it together.
6 games left and we're not out of this just yet.

[Destino]

With the Redskins, it is always next year, isn't it...
Welcome to the skins emotional roller coaster. The team has sucked for a decade and somehow we fans still think we have a winner darn near every year. Next year is all we got......

[hail2skins]

Again, Kleese, if you want results.........you CAN'T hang on to the Bandison jersey!! Let it go man!!!!

[MustangSteve]

Good thread and great to hope, Im right with ya!!! Just last week NY lost to the Viqueens and they were under rated!!! Now we lose to Oakland and we are the worst and NY and Dallas has it going. Yep we better run the table, I hope we do but this team has to make a stand now!!! Both Offense and Defensive line better stand up, the only thing Im hoping for is we never play another conservative game like this again. We need to go for the throat on Offense and Defense or teams like the Chargers will lay it on us.

[PCRoughrider]

We can't win the NFC East because we're not good enough.

[bubba9497]

If we come away 10-6, I'll be content.

Of course I'd like more, but going 3-3 when we have Denver, KC and St.Louis at home and NYG, Washington and Carolina on the road; well, I'll certainly take 3-3.

4-2 would be great, and 5-1 would be just dandy.

But realistically, 3-3.

And thats just fine.

but if one of those losses is to the Skins, and one to the Giants... and the Skins do go on a run (it is possible).. then the Pokes could finish third, and be on the outside of the playoffs

to be honest, I really see them more likely going 2-4 or possibly 1-5

The Broncos & Chiefs are tough... real tough, playing both the Giants and Skins on the road... no easy task, Carolina on the road.... after the loss to the bears, I don't see the Panthers letting another team slip past them at home... and that leaves the Rams who are sinking fast.

[JRAB]

I'm afraid that Dallas is better than many here give them credit for.

Yes, we will see... but I'm afraid that after all is said and done, Dallas will be a double digit win team with momentum going into the playoffs.

They have Denver and KC at home. I can easily see them winning both of those. After watching Carolina at Chicago today, who thinks they can't be had? Dallas is perfectly capable of winning at NY and at Dallas against St. Louis. And who thinks we'll beat them for sure when they've beaten us 14 out of 16 tries?

They can win any of those games. Do I think they'll win all of them? No. But they're perfectly capable of winning most of them. I can even see them getting home-field through the playoffs.

If that happens, I officially vomit myself silly.

Maybe I'm just worrying myself needlessly but I won't be able to stomach Dallas going deep into the playoffs. Watching the Eagles win these last few years was hard... but that's nothing compared to watching Dallas go into another period of dominance. On a scale of one to ten, I hate Dallas a 10 and Philly only about 6 or 7. Dallas has the worst fans and the media justs spooges all over them when they win.

Arrrggh! I can't take it.

[TheLongshot]

Who merged my thread into this one? My subject has nothing to do with us winning the NFC East. Will the overzelous admin please contact me?

Jason

[wsmith_1972]

I like the Cowboy's chances of going 3-3 against their schedule better than the Redskin's chances of going 5-1 against their schedule.

No offense but Redskins will be lucky to stay out of the cellar. Philly has an easier final 6 games.

[Billy Bullocks]

dude you like everyone else forgets the close wins the Cowboys lucked into.

They beat the Chargers without Gates, and got a huge call to keep their last scoring drive alive, they just barely beat San Fran, they catch a big break when jacobs fumbled the go ahead TD on the goal line, andbeat the Giants in OT despite the fact both teams had 4 turnovers each. And The last Philly game was a gift if ever there was one.

In fact they have only played two games where they won decidedly The first Eagles game (when they first started falling) and today against a bad Lions team. They are getting ready to play the part of their schedule we went 2-4 through.

The season is a marathon, 16 games it doesn't matter where the wins and losses come... at the end of the year they all add up.


Yes we lost to the Raiders, but that is one loss from 5-4, and before the loss we weren't so sure the Skins were out of it. If this team can get both the offense & defense playing together we will win . But that is a big IF


Don't forget Arizona, who was throghouly dominated. SF? That was a game we were supposed to win. Philly gifted us a win, but we gifted you guys one, so hold it on that one. NYG, if you watched the entire game, youd notice, despite turnovers, Dallas dominated that game as well.

Then take into account the Seattle game. I'd say Dallas has balanced out their luck. Gates or no Gates, that doesn't matter later in the season to me. SD susended him. It wasn't our fault they took the ball out of the best RB in the leagues hands when it counted.

[jcblanco22]

Don't forget Arizona, who was throghouly dominated. SF? That was a game we were supposed to win. Philly gifted us a win, but we gifted you guys one, so hold it on that one. NYG, if you watched the entire game, youd notice, despite turnovers, Dallas dominated that game as well.

Then take into account the Seattle game. I'd say Dallas has balanced out their luck. Gates or no Gates, that doesn't matter later in the season to me. SD susended him. It wasn't our fault they took the ball out of the best RB in the leagues hands when it counted.

Not to mention Billy, that if the Cowboys were "gifted" a win by McNabb on an errant interception late in the game, then the Redskins were equally "gifted" one by the same QB in their matchup, on the 'Skins' home field, without Terrell Owens also, on that interception he threw right to Ryan Clark on the final drive. Good luck having that recognized here though.

[4skins23]

I believe we'll be struggling to make 7-9 out of our season.I see possible wins with the cardinals and Rams-those are like 50/50.we don't have a chance at winning against san diego,or Giants,and I don't see us "sweeping" dallas this year either, Phily is a 50/50 shot.

[Billy Bullocks]

I'm afraid that Dallas is better than many here give them credit for.

Yes, we will see... but I'm afraid that after all is said and done, Dallas will be a double digit win team with momentum going into the playoffs.

They have Denver and KC at home. I can easily see them winning both of those. After watching Carolina at Chicago today, who thinks they can't be had? Dallas is perfectly capable of winning at NY and at Dallas against St. Louis. And who thinks we'll beat them for sure when they've beaten us 14 out of 16 tries?

They can win any of those games. Do I think they'll win all of them? No. But they're perfectly capable of winning most of them. I can even see them getting home-field through the playoffs.

If that happens, I officially vomit myself silly.

Maybe I'm just worrying myself needlessly but I won't be able to stomach Dallas going deep into the playoffs. Watching the Eagles win these last few years was hard... but that's nothing compared to watching Dallas go into another period of dominance. On a scale of one to ten, I hate Dallas a 10 and Philly only about 6 or 7. Dallas has the worst fans and the media justs spooges all over them when they win.

Arrrggh! I can't take it.

Alot of Cowboys fans are picking us to go to the Super Bowl...that's where I might have to interject. I dont think that it is entirely impossible, and with us getting a shot at Carolina, a game that could have huge implications on 1st round byes and HFA, it'll give us a good gauge of where both are at.

With Carolina, it seems more like them not showing up rahter than them being bad. I still think Dallas can beat them, but they have an outstanding defense, and with a defense like that, and Steve Smith making big plays, they have a winning formula.

Dallas goes to the playoffs. I think we win at least 1 game there. The problem with Dallas, mediocre O-Line play. We might miss Adams more than people think. We haven't had the most conistant running game, and that has to change. Another big problem we've had so far this year, is the fact that we play to our opponents level. Look at the SF game. Then look at Seattle, NYG, Philly, etc. When we have to step up, we usually do (minus those last minute melt downs), but we've come out flat against lesser opponents. Today was an OK performance, but nothing I would be too happy about. A win is a win.

The NFC has no team that has seperated themsleves from teh pack. I think Seattle, based ontheir win against us, have the biggest advantage heading to the playoffs. That might hurt us big time, with the tie breaker. Atlanta, Tampa Bay, those 2 seem to be up and down. TB is finding ways to win, and I see Carolina as one of those teams too. Carolina, minus today, seems to have that kind of luck. It's just that type of team.

[Bizwah]

I usually don't post here. I respect this board, and the fact that it is a Redskin fans board.

But Bubba, you're wrong.

The Eagles were not sputtering, or hurting, or feuding, or anything else coming into our first game.

They were winners of three straight games and coming off a miraculous win vs the Chiefs just the week before.

[jcblanco22]

I usually don't post here. I respect this board, and the fact that it is a Redskin fans board.

But Bubba, you're wrong.

The Eagles were not sputtering, or hurting, or feuding, or anything else coming into our first game.

They were winners of three straight games and coming off a miraculous win vs the Chiefs just the week before.

Thank you Biz. I wasn't sure where that had come from either.

[JRAB]

but if one of those losses is to the Skins, and one to the Giants... and the Skins do go on a run (it is possible).. then the Pokes could finish third, and be on the outside of the playoffs

to be honest, I really see them more likely going 2-4 or possibly 1-5

The Broncos & Chiefs are tough... real tough, playing both the Giants and Skins on the road... no easy task, Carolina on the road.... after the loss to the bears, I don't see the Panthers letting another team slip past them at home... and that leaves the Rams who are sinking fast.


You think Dallas might go 1-5 in their last 6 games? Are you serious? Good Lord.

Maybe I'm giving them too much credit and I'm just a pessimist... but I can't imagine them not at least splitting their remaining games. They've lost only 3 out of 10 games and in those losses, all three were by a combined 10 points. 1, 6, and 3. Every other game of their's has been a win.

Two of those losses came in the first month of the season and they've only lost one game in the last 6. They have a lot of inexperience on that team and it's clear that they're only getting better as the season progresses.

1-5? I think they'll probably manage a few more wins than that.

I'm going to stop defending the stinkin' Cowboys now, but please, take off the blinders.

[Capt'n Obvious]

NFC East is still up for grabs, 2 games back is not that bad, especially with SIX games left, to see so many Redskins fans giving up is disheartening, Lets go true skins fans, support your team.:helmet:

[Bizwah]

You think Dallas might go 1-5 in their last 6 games? Are you serious? Good Lord.

Maybe I'm giving them too much credit and I'm just a pessimist... but I can't imagine them not at least splitting their remaining games. They've lost only 3 out of 10 games and in those losses, all three were by a combined 10 points. 1, 6, and 3. Every other game of their's has been a win.

Two of those losses came in the first month of the season and they've only lost one game in the last 6. They have a lot of inexperience on that team and it's clear that they're only getting better as the season progresses.

1-5? I think they'll probably manage a few more wins than that.

I'm going to stop defending the stinkin' Cowboys now, but please, take off the blinders.

LOL.....funny stuff.....

It's interesting because, I thought we'd go 8-8 before the year started. And, during our Bye, I thought we'd go 3-5 to end the season. Right now, I think that's still a very real possibility.

But after reading your posts, I'm starting to get a little more confident in our position.

:laugh:

[JRAB]

LOL.....funny stuff.....

It's interesting because, I thought we'd go 8-8 before the year started. And, during our Bye, I thought we'd go 3-5 to end the season. Right now, I think that's still a very real possibility.

But after reading your posts, I'm starting to get a little more confident in our position.

:laugh:


I'm just down right now. I'm sure I'm giving Dallas too much credit. It's what I do after a tough Redskin loss... I get real down and pull a chicken little.

That doesn't mean that Dallas will do what I feel they might right now. Shoot, I thought the Redskins were going to end up 11-5 or better after the 3-0 start, so don't take my word for it.

[Bizwah]

I'm just down right now. I'm sure I'm giving Dallas too much credit. It's what I do after a tough Redskin loss... I get real down and pull a chicken little.

That doesn't mean that Dallas will do what I feel they might right now. Shoot, I thought the Redskins were going to end up 11-5 or better after the 3-0 start, so don't take my word for it.

Don't be too down. The season is far from over. If our first meeting didn't tell you that ANYTHING can happen, then nothing will.

[BigDFan5]

you are dense aren't you?

when did TO start playing for the giants?

What exactly does the Skins losing have anything to do with the Cowboys, lucking out in 4 of their wins, and playing a much easier schedule so far??

If the Pokes are half as good as you think, the next six games will be a cakewalk, but I wouldn't hold my breath.


I may be dense but thats still 2 steps above you.

Oh man try and stay with the subject we were discussing a Giants turnover right? how do you abbreviate turnover?? wow

Oh course we lucked out in 4 wins Bubba and the Skins steamrolled the competition right :lol: You and some other rival fans are the only ones saying 7-3 is lucky

How good did I say they were? I simply believe they aren't as bad as you like to pretend but then again objectivity is not your strong suite is it

[kleese]

Win 2 of the next 3. Just keep telling yourself that and you'll feel better.

7-6 going against Dallas is all I ask at this point. The chances of winning out from there are very slim, but at least we'll have our shot.

[bubba9497]

I may be dense but thats still 2 steps above you.

Oh man try and stay with the subject we were discussing a Giants turnover right? how do you abbreviate turnover?? wow

Oh course we lucked out in 4 wins Bubba and the Skins steamrolled the competition right :lol: You and some other rival fans are the only ones saying 7-3 is lucky

How good did I say they were? I simply believe they aren't as bad as you like to pretend but then again objectivity is not your strong suite is it

Dallas Cowboys at 08:32 4th Quarter
1-10-SD44 (8:32) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn to SD 31 for 13 yards (T.Kiel).
1-10-SD31 (7:59) J.Jones right tackle to SD 31 for no gain (R.Godfrey, D.Edwards).
2-10-SD31 (7:20) J.Jones right guard to SD 32 for -1 yards (B.Leber).
3-11-SD32 (6:41) PENALTY on DAL-R.Petitti, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SD 32 - No Play.
3-16-SD37 (6:24) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn ran ob at SD 29 for 8 yards (C.Hart).
PENALTY on SD-Q.Jammer, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at SD 37 - No Play.
1-10-SD32 (6:09) J.Jones up the middle to SD 30 for 2 yards (R.Godfrey).
2-8-SD30 (5:27) D.Bledsoe pass to P.Crayton pushed ob at SD 21 for 9 yards (B.Jue).
1-10-SD21 (4:57) J.Jones up the middle to SD 8 for 13 yards (D.Florence, B.Jue).
1-8-SD8 (4:31) J.Jones up the middle to SD 2 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Edwards).
2-2-SD2 (3:58) J.Jones left guard to SD 2 for no gain (Q.Jammer, R.Godfrey).
3-2-SD2 (3:10) D.Bledsoe pass to K.Johnson for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.


http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20050911_DAL@SD

now tell me again where the Pokes didn't get a penalty to aid their last TD drive? :laugh:

this brain surgery. The Giants game the Giants turned it over 4 times including the one on the goal line in the 4th quarter. The Giants then came back again and score with less than a minute to send it to OT, Dallas wins the toss game over. If the Giants win the toss... :whoknows:, if Jacobs doesn't fumble but scores... I have no doubt the Giants would have won.

When you look at Dallas, again that 7-3 isn't that impressive. They have trouble holding leads, they don't score many points on good defenses, 4 of there wins could have been losses. Two of their losses they gave up lead late.

Then when you factor in their schedule, and see the only teams they have beat soundly have losing records... then you see that 5 of the next six games are extremely tough... it is not hard to imagine the poke losing enough games to fall out of the playoff race.

Will the Skins get back in it :whoknows: They will have to do better than they did yesterday that's for sure... but if they some how can put iyt together for a string of wins... they may get back in the hunt.

[SkinsFTW]

The way this team has been playing they could either beat the Chargers next week 17-16, lose to them 35-34, beat them 42-20, or lose to them 38-3.

Who really knows which Redskins team will show up next week?

If it's the one that doesnt turn over the ball, moves the ball down field sustaining drive after drive while scoring POINTS on those drives, and stops the running game on defense without giving up any big plays then this Redskins team can beat any team in the league.

The only problem is, that Redskins team has only showed its face 1 time this year, if that. The Redskins are one of those teams that could just as easily be 8-2 or 2-8 right now as 5-5 so I guess they picked the middle ground. Without the turnover problem, while creating turnovers themselves this team could easily be 9-1, but right now they are lucky to be 5-5.

[75004]

You know my T.V broke so I had to go shopping, While at the mall I went into the Redskins store and watched the game. I can't believe some sorry ***** comments that I was hearing from some want to be Redskins fans.

I love the Redskins and I think that someday we will be good and we will stop getting disappointed year after year.

[grampi]

Here come the blindly optimistic threads. Get real people. This team is very medocre and nothing more. The way the Skins are playing they don't deserve to be in the playoffs. They can't even beat the teams they should easily beat let alone the tougher teams. I'm afraid this season is over and it's time to start looking forward to next year.

[Fred Jones]

The team is done.

[bigredone]

A lot of people called 8 and 8 and thats what we are.....suck it up and drink it down......Our D is fading, not getting better....the only thing I have seen consistency in is the run stoppage and we still allow a big gain or 2 per game..........

after next week AFC WEST vs. Redskins 4-0

[jcblanco22]

Dallas Cowboys at 08:32 4th Quarter
1-10-SD44 (8:32) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn to SD 31 for 13 yards (T.Kiel).
1-10-SD31 (7:59) J.Jones right tackle to SD 31 for no gain (R.Godfrey, D.Edwards).
2-10-SD31 (7:20) J.Jones right guard to SD 32 for -1 yards (B.Leber).
3-11-SD32 (6:41) PENALTY on DAL-R.Petitti, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SD 32 - No Play.
3-16-SD37 (6:24) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn ran ob at SD 29 for 8 yards (C.Hart).
PENALTY on SD-Q.Jammer, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at SD 37 - No Play.
1-10-SD32 (6:09) J.Jones up the middle to SD 30 for 2 yards (R.Godfrey).
2-8-SD30 (5:27) D.Bledsoe pass to P.Crayton pushed ob at SD 21 for 9 yards (B.Jue).
1-10-SD21 (4:57) J.Jones up the middle to SD 8 for 13 yards (D.Florence, B.Jue).
1-8-SD8 (4:31) J.Jones up the middle to SD 2 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Edwards).
2-2-SD2 (3:58) J.Jones left guard to SD 2 for no gain (Q.Jammer, R.Godfrey).
3-2-SD2 (3:10) D.Bledsoe pass to K.Johnson for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.


http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20050911_DAL@SD

now tell me again where the Pokes didn't get a penalty to aid their last TD drive? :laugh:

this brain surgery. The Giants game the Giants turned it over 4 times including the one on the goal line in the 4th quarter. The Giants then came back again and score with less than a minute to send it to OT, Dallas wins the toss game over. If the Giants win the toss... :whoknows:, if Jacobs doesn't fumble but scores... I have no doubt the Giants would have won.

When you look at Dallas, again that 7-3 isn't that impressive. They have trouble holding leads, they don't score many points on good defenses, 4 of there wins could have been losses. Two of their losses they gave up lead late.

Then when you factor in their schedule, and see the only teams they have beat soundly have losing records... then you see that 5 of the next six games are extremely tough... it is not hard to imagine the poke losing enough games to fall out of the playoff race.

Will the Skins get back in it :whoknows: They will have to do better than they did yesterday that's for sure... but if they some how can put iyt together for a string of wins... they may get back in the hunt.

And if a call is legitimate and prevents a play from having been more successful, is it a good call or not? I don't see the point that is proven by calling out a penalty that was justified.

Incidentally, when Dallas thumped the Eagles by 3 touchdowns on October 9th, not only did they have a winning record, not only did the Eagles have their full complement of players on both sides of the ball (including Owens of course), but they had no controversy or any other problems at that point. You intimated in another post that they had come "limping in" or something to that effect and that the second T.O. controversy had already begun; wrong. Go back and do the research as you did with the TD drive above. :laugh:

[BigDFan5]

Dallas Cowboys at 08:32 4th Quarter
1-10-SD44 (8:32) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn to SD 31 for 13 yards (T.Kiel).
1-10-SD31 (7:59) J.Jones right tackle to SD 31 for no gain (R.Godfrey, D.Edwards).
2-10-SD31 (7:20) J.Jones right guard to SD 32 for -1 yards (B.Leber).
3-11-SD32 (6:41) PENALTY on DAL-R.Petitti, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SD 32 - No Play.
3-16-SD37 (6:24) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn ran ob at SD 29 for 8 yards (C.Hart).
PENALTY on SD-Q.Jammer, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at SD 37 - No Play.
1-10-SD32 (6:09) J.Jones up the middle to SD 30 for 2 yards (R.Godfrey).
2-8-SD30 (5:27) D.Bledsoe pass to P.Crayton pushed ob at SD 21 for 9 yards (B.Jue).
1-10-SD21 (4:57) J.Jones up the middle to SD 8 for 13 yards (D.Florence, B.Jue).
1-8-SD8 (4:31) J.Jones up the middle to SD 2 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Edwards).
2-2-SD2 (3:58) J.Jones left guard to SD 2 for no gain (Q.Jammer, R.Godfrey).
3-2-SD2 (3:10) D.Bledsoe pass to K.Johnson for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.


http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20050911_DAL@SD

now tell me again where the Pokes didn't get a penalty to aid their last TD drive? :laugh:

this brain surgery. The Giants game the Giants turned it over 4 times including the one on the goal line in the 4th quarter. The Giants then came back again and score with less than a minute to send it to OT, Dallas wins the toss game over. If the Giants win the toss... :whoknows:, if Jacobs doesn't fumble but scores... I have no doubt the Giants would have won.

When you look at Dallas, again that 7-3 isn't that impressive. They have trouble holding leads, they don't score many points on good defenses, 4 of there wins could have been losses. Two of their losses they gave up lead late.

Then when you factor in their schedule, and see the only teams they have beat soundly have losing records... then you see that 5 of the next six games are extremely tough... it is not hard to imagine the poke losing enough games to fall out of the playoff race.

Will the Skins get back in it :whoknows: They will have to do better than they did yesterday that's for sure... but if they some how can put iyt together for a string of wins... they may get back in the hunt.


Now bubba Honesty may not be your strong suite but AT NO TIME did I say they "didn't get a penalty" I stated very cleary both teams had 1- 5 yard penalty on that drive I even stated the fact that theirs gave us a first down so you can :laugh: all you want but you are showing the world you can't read


Yes the Giants turned it over 4 times SO DID DALLAS LOL If Jacobs does not fumble how do you figure they win? we have the ball with 1:18 left somewhere around the 20-30 yard line we could either drive for a FG or go to overtime they never see the ball to win.


LMAO at 7-3 not being impressive you like to say how our wins could have been losses but then fail to mention all 3 losses could have been wins we lost all 3 games by a combined 10 points.


I am sure YOU see the Cowboys falling out of the race just as YOU see the Redskins as still in it. common sense tells me we can go 3-3 and we are still in

[BigDFan5]

Then when you factor in their schedule, and see the only teams they have beat soundly have losing records...

Redskins have won 1 game soundly against a team with a losing record




4 of there wins could have been losses.

and 4 of the Redskins wins could have been losses

Bears screw themselves on their final drive

Dallas D screws up with 4 mins to go

Seattle misses a FG

McNabb throws a pick in the endzone to end a game

[sh0cker80]

The redskins had a huge chance two weeks ago to make a three way tie for first when they should have beat a Buc's team lead by Chirs Simms, and I think that lost followed in to this week against the Raider they should have won that game too. The Redskins are a quality team, but have to many let downs. In addition, Next week won't be easy either against the Chargers. I am not one to come in to a Redskins board and pick on your team because I don't like when that happens on our board, but if the Redskins were playoff material they would of beat the Bucs and Raiders.

As for the Giants they are playing very inconsistant. A playoff team would of handed a 3-5 Vikings team at home a Loss, but they looked horrible and loss. But, did rebound against the Eagles. The schedule is tough a head, but like i said if the Giants are playoff caliber they'll do well if they play inconsistant they could possibly fall to 9-7, leaving the door open for the Skins, who are still not out.

[Doctor ToughLove]

Dallas plays Denver. Giants play Seattle. Redskins could be within one game of the division in one week. It's not over folks.

[Titaw]

Dallas plays Denver. Giants play Seattle. Redskins could be within one game of the division in one week. It's not over folks.

That quite possibly brought me out of my pessimistic funk that I have been in. I really didn't realize it. WOW!

If the right Skins show up this week then I will be flowing with optimism, but right now I am emotionless and guarded.

[ThornWithin]

Yes I'm serious. If the wins/losses play out like that, the results are what is shown to the right jackass. I'm not saying it is going to happen. I'm just saying that it is possible for the skins to win the division.

Well duh.

Until a team has 7 losses right now in the East, they can win the division.

But all you have to do is lose to San Diego (very likely) and New York (36-0), and its over.

And even if you won ONE of those games, you've still got three road games (you've won ONE all season) and a home game against us Cowboys to play.

It's *possible*, but that's like saying its possible to win a game of Risk when you have one army left on the board. Sure, you could roll perfect rolls all night, but its not going to happen.

[ThornWithin]

Dallas Cowboys at 08:32 4th Quarter
1-10-SD44 (8:32) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn to SD 31 for 13 yards (T.Kiel).
1-10-SD31 (7:59) J.Jones right tackle to SD 31 for no gain (R.Godfrey, D.Edwards).
2-10-SD31 (7:20) J.Jones right guard to SD 32 for -1 yards (B.Leber).
3-11-SD32 (6:41) PENALTY on DAL-R.Petitti, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SD 32 - No Play.
3-16-SD37 (6:24) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn ran ob at SD 29 for 8 yards (C.Hart).
PENALTY on SD-Q.Jammer, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at SD 37 - No Play.
1-10-SD32 (6:09) J.Jones up the middle to SD 30 for 2 yards (R.Godfrey).
2-8-SD30 (5:27) D.Bledsoe pass to P.Crayton pushed ob at SD 21 for 9 yards (B.Jue).
1-10-SD21 (4:57) J.Jones up the middle to SD 8 for 13 yards (D.Florence, B.Jue).
1-8-SD8 (4:31) J.Jones up the middle to SD 2 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Edwards).
2-2-SD2 (3:58) J.Jones left guard to SD 2 for no gain (Q.Jammer, R.Godfrey).
3-2-SD2 (3:10) D.Bledsoe pass to K.Johnson for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.


http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20050911_DAL@SD

now tell me again where the Pokes didn't get a penalty to aid their last TD drive? :laugh:

this brain surgery. The Giants game the Giants turned it over 4 times including the one on the goal line in the 4th quarter. The Giants then came back again and score with less than a minute to send it to OT, Dallas wins the toss game over. If the Giants win the toss... :whoknows:, if Jacobs doesn't fumble but scores... I have no doubt the Giants would have won.

When you look at Dallas, again that 7-3 isn't that impressive. They have trouble holding leads, they don't score many points on good defenses, 4 of there wins could have been losses. Two of their losses they gave up lead late.

Then when you factor in their schedule, and see the only teams they have beat soundly have losing records... then you see that 5 of the next six games are extremely tough... it is not hard to imagine the poke losing enough games to fall out of the playoff race.

Will the Skins get back in it :whoknows: They will have to do better than they did yesterday that's for sure... but if they some how can put iyt together for a string of wins... they may get back in the hunt.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Bubba, thanks for making me smile.

If our 7-3 "isn't all that impressive" then you being 5-5 is downright pathetic.

The Bears were driving for a field goal late but screwed it all up with offensive penalties.

We layed down in the last five minutes.

The Seahawks kicker misses a kick against you to win it, when he makes a LONGER one against us to beat us.

The Eagles were driving in their game at FedEx before McNappy threw that interception.

You could be 2-8. But you aren't. You're 5-5.

Just like we're 7-3. :)

[bubba9497]

Well duh.

Until a team has 7 losses right now in the East, they can win the division.

But all you have to do is lose to San Diego (very likely) and New York (36-0), and its over.

And even if you won ONE of those games, you've still got three road games (you've won ONE all season) and a home game against us Cowboys to play.

It's *possible*, but that's like saying its possible to win a game of Risk when you have one army left on the board. Sure, you could roll perfect rolls all night, but its not going to happen.

you better worry about your pretender team, actually having play a real schedule the next six weeks.

Don't expect Denver or KC to give you a gift TD to win, and the Giants are a better team at home... as are the Panthers and Skins.

no more Lions, Cardinals, & girls school of the blind to make you look better than you are

you should be 3-7, but you luck out to be 7-3

[bubba9497]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Bubba, thanks for making me smile.

If our 7-3 "isn't all that impressive" then you being 5-5 is downright pathetic.

The Bears were driving for a field goal late but screwed it all up with offensive penalties.

We layed down in the last five minutes.

The Seahawks kicker misses a kick against you to win it, when he makes a LONGER one against us to beat us.

The Eagles were driving in their game at FedEx before McNappy threw that interception.

You could be 2-8. But you aren't. You're 5-5.

Just like we're 7-3. :)


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

at least I state facts

Bears driving :laugh: unless the kicker can kick an 80 yarder, The bears hadn't crossed the 50 when they got the jumps :rolleyes:

Brown made a shorter one, that your qb gift wrapped.... like McNabb did for Williams... oh wait that was different :rolleyes:

The Eagles were driving but were stopped on 4th down... hmmm just like the Chargers Dallas game... oh wait that was different as well :rolleyes:

Yep we are 5-5 but have play a much tougher schedule... and unlike the pokes we didn't get a couple calls, we had 2 wins basically taken away.

Our scheduled teams where 60-40 so far, the Pokes 47-53

But that is a changing Skippy. We get to play some easier teams ... and now you have to prove your worth. Don't expect to go .500 or better either.


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK

[Gooseskins]

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Bubba, thanks for making me smile.

If our 7-3 "isn't all that impressive" then you being 5-5 is downright pathetic.

The Bears were driving for a field goal late but screwed it all up with offensive penalties.

We layed down in the last five minutes.

The Seahawks kicker misses a kick against you to win it, when he makes a LONGER one against us to beat us.

The Eagles were driving in their game at FedEx before McNappy threw that interception.

You could be 2-8. But you aren't. You're 5-5.

Just like we're 7-3. :)



I see so the Cowboys:


Narrowly beat a Charger team missing one of their best players
Chocked against the Skins (a team you are saying sucks)
Narrowly beat the lowly Niners (losing most of the game)
Lost to the Raiders
Actually showed up for 1 game versus Philly
Slipped by the Giants in OT
Lost to Seattle
Should send Donavan Thank You cards for the Philly game (losing most of the game)
And beat a Crappy Detroit team
For having not played anyone really...great job but given your logic you could just as easily be 3-7 after playing a much easier schedule.

Before you start boasting you might want to take notice that your team has only showed up for one game all season and has a cake schedule.

[bubba9497]

I see so the Cowboys:


Narrowly beat a Charger team missing one of their best players
Chocked against the Skins (a team you are saying sucks)
Narrowly beat the lowly Niners (losing most of the game)
Lost to the Raiders
Actually showed up for 1 game versus Philly
Slipped by the Giants in OT
Lost to Seattle
Should send Donavan Thank You cards for the Philly game (losing most of the game)
And beat a Crappy Detroit team
For having not played anyone really...great job but given your logic you could just as easily be 3-7 after playing a much easier schedule.

Before you start boasting you might want to take notice that your team has only showed up for one game all season and has a cake schedule.

Poke fans live in fantasy land

but as I stated above it is 11:59 pm and this team turns back into a pumpkin


Tick tock, tick tock

[goose34]

Poke fans live in fantasy land



:doh:

[ThornWithin]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

at least I state facts

Okay. So you have established that you say facts. Let's take a look at that Idea, shall we?


Bears driving :laugh: unless the kicker can kick an 80 yarder, The bears hadn't crossed the 50 when they got the jumps :rolleyes:

Uh-oh. So, you're sure about that? The Bears didn't cross the fifty when they got the jumps in the fourth quarter? NFL.com doesn't agree.

1-10-CHI25 (12:48) C.Benson right end to CHI 29 for 4 yards (M.Washington).
2-6-CHI29 (12:17) C.Benson right guard to CHI 31 for 2 yards (L.Marshall).
3-4-CHI31 (11:38) K.Orton pass to D.Clark to CHI 41 for 10 yards (M.Washington).
1-10-CHI41 (10:56) K.Orton pass incomplete to M.Bradley (S.Taylor, W.Harris).
2-10-CHI41 (10:46) K.Orton pass to M.Muhammad to CHI 48 for 7 yards (M.Washington).
3-3-CHI48 (10:02) K.Orton pass to M.Muhammad to WAS 47 for 5 yards (W.Harris).
1-10-WAS47 (9:26) C.Benson right end to WAS 43 for 4 yards (L.Marshall).

Look at that. Just over 9 minutes to play, and the Bears, already well into a drive set foot in Washington territory.

2-6-WAS43 (8:44) K.Orton pass to B.Berrian pushed ob at WAS 34 for 9 yards (W.Harris).
1-10-WAS34 (8:20) T.Jones up the middle to WAS 37 for -3 yards (S.Springs).

2-13-WAS37 (7:38) PENALTY on CHI-F.Miller, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 37 - No Play.
2-18-WAS42 (7:15) PENALTY on CHI-J.Tait, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 42 - No Play.
2-23-WAS47 (6:56) PENALTY on CHI-R.Brown, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 47 - No Play.

On first down, the Bears were on the Washington 34 with 8 minutes remaining. That's 16 yards into Skin territory champ. Then following a run for a loss of three, they commit three false starts IN A ROW. Granted, at their closest they were 51 yards away on a field goal try, but even on the second down attempt where the false start fest began, if they gain six or seven yards they have a makeable field goal on their hands.

But they never crossed the fifty, right Bubba. You post facts. :laugh:


Brown made a shorter one, that your qb gift wrapped.... like McNabb did for Williams... oh wait that was different :rolleyes:

The Eagles were driving but were stopped on 4th down... hmmm just like the Chargers Dallas game... oh wait that was different as well :rolleyes:

I'm not going to argue that Bledsoe giftwrapped that win for Seattle just like McNabb. But what's your point? If we didn't deserve that win in Philly, and it was just gift wrapped for us, then Seattle didn't deserve to win in Seattle, we just gift wrapped it for them. Consistency. Either way, guess who's still 7-3.


Yep we are 5-5 but have play a much tougher schedule... and unlike the pokes we didn't get a couple calls, we had 2 wins basically taken away.

Oh please. You silly skins fans and your lunatic crybaby coach complaining on a weekly basis about the calls...instead of you know, coaching the team, Gibbs compiles video tape evidence about how "screwed" you guys were. Pathetic.


Our scheduled teams where 60-40 so far, the Pokes 47-53

But that is a changing Skippy. We get to play some easier teams ... and now you have to prove your worth. Don't expect to go .500 or better either.

Congratulations Bubba. You have made a very valid point. I'm worried about this, which is why I said we will probably finish 10-6. It's going to be a tough road.



Don't expect to go .500 or better either.

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

You do realize that "to go .500 or better" all we have to win is ONE MORE GAME...right? Out of...SIX. But the skins are going to win 5 of their next six, right? :doh:

[bubba9497]

50 or 40.... At least I proved they weren't driving as you suggest, a 61 yard kick :laugh:

keep spinning.... want change what was... and it won't stop what's coming :D

talk to me in six weeks

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK

[Gooseskins]

Nice of you to nit pick the Bears game with your pointless argument but totaly overlook the point that you have not played a hard schedule and you barely beat the Niners. At least we barely beat a division leader.

[Doctor ToughLove]

That quite possibly brought me out of my pessimistic funk that I have been in. I really didn't realize it. WOW!

If the right Skins show up this week then I will be flowing with optimism, but right now I am emotionless and guarded.

I hear ya. The Redskins still got to come through this week end. But if they do....Giants & Cowboys play each other the following week and someone will come down (while we take on St Louis).

It could happen.

[BigDFan5]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

at least I state facts

Bears driving :laugh: unless the kicker can kick an 80 yarder, The bears hadn't crossed the 50 when they got the jumps :rolleyes:

For someone that "states facts" you sure dont have any.

Bears hadn't crossed the 50? then why were they on the Washington 37 before the first penlty? and had driven almost 40 yards to get there.



Brown made a shorter one, that your qb gift wrapped.... like McNabb did for Williams... oh wait that was different :rolleyes:

More "facts" you are wrong about this is becoming a habit. Brown missed a 47 yard FG attempt for the win against Washington he made a 50 yard FG against Dallas to win the game Please bubba do some research [/QUOTE]

[BigDFan5]

Also bubba why did you conviently skip over message 147 and 148 on page 10 where I brough attention to more of your false "facts"

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

Well duh.

Until a team has 7 losses right now in the East, they can win the division.

But all you have to do is lose to San Diego (very likely) and New York (36-0), and its over.

And even if you won ONE of those games, you've still got three road games (you've won ONE all season) and a home game against us Cowboys to play.

It's *possible*, but that's like saying its possible to win a game of Risk when you have one army left on the board. Sure, you could roll perfect rolls all night, but its not going to happen.
Go buy a Dallas jersey if you want to be so anti-redskins about it. You're a sad excuse for a fan. If you have no faith, then you are not a fan.

[bigredone]

The possibility does exist, no doubt but who are we going to beat San Diego with? SO when Santana gets double coverage.....Cooley is getting every pass or Taylor "bust" Jacobs? What about our D Line with no penetration? If Drew Brees sit back there all day we will watch Walt Harris get burned for another game in a row.....I want us to win, but my question is how do we overcome all the apparent problems we have had that reared their ungy head over the past few games?

[BigDFan5]

Go buy a Dallas jersey if you want to be so anti-redskins about it. You're a sad excuse for a fan. If you have no faith, then you are not a fan.


I'm betting he already has a Dallas Jersey

[skinsman4u]

eh, 11-5 ; we run the table..starting with beating Sandiego by 2 TDs

[#1SkinsFan]

Nice of you to nit pick the Bears game with your pointless argument but totaly overlook the point that you have not played a hard schedule and you barely beat the Niners. At least we barely beat a division leader.

we beat 3 division leaders

the seahawks, the bears, and the boys

[bubba9497]

Also bubba why did you conviently skip over message 147 and 148 on page 10 where I brough attention to more of your false "facts"


you mean were the Pokes didn't get a gift holding penalty on 3rd and 16 on their last td drive against the chargers??? Oh wait.. you were wrong :laugh:

your fairy tales aren't "facts" or close to being accurate.

Gawd, Poke fans are funny.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/da7a45e1.jpg

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[marsbennett]

Dallas Cowboys at 08:32 4th Quarter
1-10-SD44 (8:32) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn to SD 31 for 13 yards (T.Kiel).
1-10-SD31 (7:59) J.Jones right tackle to SD 31 for no gain (R.Godfrey, D.Edwards).
2-10-SD31 (7:20) J.Jones right guard to SD 32 for -1 yards (B.Leber).
3-11-SD32 (6:41) PENALTY on DAL-R.Petitti, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at SD 32 - No Play.
3-16-SD37 (6:24) D.Bledsoe pass to T.Glenn ran ob at SD 29 for 8 yards (C.Hart).
PENALTY on SD-Q.Jammer, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at SD 37 - No Play.
1-10-SD32 (6:09) J.Jones up the middle to SD 30 for 2 yards (R.Godfrey).
2-8-SD30 (5:27) D.Bledsoe pass to P.Crayton pushed ob at SD 21 for 9 yards (B.Jue).
1-10-SD21 (4:57) J.Jones up the middle to SD 8 for 13 yards (D.Florence, B.Jue).
1-8-SD8 (4:31) J.Jones up the middle to SD 2 for 6 yards (B.Jue, D.Edwards).
2-2-SD2 (3:58) J.Jones left guard to SD 2 for no gain (Q.Jammer, R.Godfrey).
3-2-SD2 (3:10) D.Bledsoe pass to K.Johnson for 2 yards, TOUCHDOWN.


http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay/NFL_20050911_DAL@SD

now tell me again where the Pokes didn't get a penalty to aid their last TD drive? :laugh:

this brain surgery. The Giants game the Giants turned it over 4 times including the one on the goal line in the 4th quarter. The Giants then came back again and score with less than a minute to send it to OT, Dallas wins the toss game over. If the Giants win the toss... :whoknows:, if Jacobs doesn't fumble but scores... I have no doubt the Giants would have won.

When you look at Dallas, again that 7-3 isn't that impressive. They have trouble holding leads, they don't score many points on good defenses, 4 of there wins could have been losses. Two of their losses they gave up lead late.

Then when you factor in their schedule, and see the only teams they have beat soundly have losing records... then you see that 5 of the next six games are extremely tough... it is not hard to imagine the poke losing enough games to fall out of the playoff race.

Will the Skins get back in it :whoknows: They will have to do better than they did yesterday that's for sure... but if they some how can put iyt together for a string of wins... they may get back in the hunt.
You have far more excuses than Billy Carter had liver pills!

[bubba9497]

You have far more excuses than Billy Carter had liver pills!


no excuses... just the truth

Poke fans think their crap don't stink..... reality will hit hard soon enough


tick tock

[BigDFan5]

you mean were the Pokes didn't get a gift holding penalty on 3rd and 16 on their last td drive against the chargers??? Oh wait.. you were wrong :laugh:

your fairy tales aren't "facts" or close to being accurate.

Gawd, Poke fans are funny.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/da7a45e1.jpg

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Bubba just because you close your eyes and stomp your feet real hard still doesnt make you right. Go back and show me a post where I didnt say their was a penalty on that drive. I stated very clearly both teams had 1 - 5 yard penlty on that drive and their penlty gve us a first down. You call it a "gift" but that would mean it was not the correct call which it was. Everything I have said is factual and been backed up you have made several false statements and are running away trying to create distractions

[BigDFan5]

no excuses... just the truth

Poke fans think their crap don't stink..... reality will hit hard soon enough


tick tock


truth? where lets see your truth Bubba

Chicago never passed the 50 FALSE

Brown made a shorter FG against Dallas than he missed against skins FALSE

saying that I said San Diego didnt get a penalty FALSE


I see a pattern here bubba you make stuff up for your arguments and when you are called on it you dont reply

[Ajokah]

Its easy to say we will end 8-8 or 9-7. But as a fan Im tired of giving up on the season come week 10 or 9. We are 5-5 with a much easier schedule than any of the teams ahead of us in the race. I do hate to predict because you never know in this league, but why cant we make the playoffs. We beat Chicago and their there. We beat Seattle and their there. We beat Dallas and their there. Why cant we have a late season turnaroung like some of these other teams.


We have to be behind this team and encourage them. Ask New England are they quittin. Ask Minnesota have they quit.

Got Da##it Lets Go!!!!:point2sky :point2sky

[Gooseskins]

we beat 3 division leaders

the seahawks, the bears, and the boys

I was referring my message to the cowboys fans not the skins.....hence the barely beat the Niners part of my message.

[bubba9497]

truth? where lets see your truth Bubba

Chicago never passed the 50 FALSE

Brown made a shorter FG against Dallas than he missed against skins FALSE

saying that I said San Diego didnt get a penalty FALSE


I see a pattern here bubba you make stuff up for your arguments and when you are called on it you dont reply


1. The Truth... The Bears where NOT driving to score the winning FG... 50 or 40 same point... but lets ignore the real point over symantics.



2. Wow I was wrong about the distance... huge difference between a 50 yarder on turf and a 47 yarder on grass. Yep huge difference, but the results were same, you still have to make the fg, we missed a FG earlier so did the seahawks get lucky???? No we got lucky, that we drove down and MADE the winning FG. Unlike Dallas who threw an interception when they had a chance to win. But again nit pick over a detail, that doesn't change the point... ignore the truth. :rolleyes:




Your memory seems to be failing you Bubba

There was no huge call on our last scoring drive to keep the drive alive there were 2 penalties on that drive 1 on us 1 on Chargers both 5 yard penaltys theirs gave us a 1st down yet we still drove the failed and scored.


3. Lets see the 5 yard penalty was an automatic first down on a 3rd and 16 and after you completed only an 8 yard pass... meaning PUNT (chargers would had the lead and the ball)... but the call keep the drive alive for the pokes to score... which is what I said... and a 3rd and 16 turns into a first down on a bogus 5 yard holding call... I call that a HUGE break. that is the truth, not like it was an offsides that on 2nd an 3 type of first down, you tried and make it appear.

again keep living in fantasy land, and spin your little tales. Nit picking were I made a couple minor detail mistakes, didn't change the truth of the actual situation. So you win.. I was WRONG on two little details going on memory.

but my point stays the same... and is the TRUTH


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[BigDFan5]

1. The Truth... The Bears where NOT driving to score the winning FG... 50 or 40 same point... but lets ignore the real point over symantics.



2. Wow I was wrong about the distance... huge difference between a 50 yarder on turf and a 47 yarder on grass. Yep huge difference, but the results were same, you still have to make the fg, we missed a FG earlier so did the seahawks get lucky???? No we got lucky, that we drove down and MADE the winning FG. Unlike Dallas who threw an interception when they had a chance to win. But again nit pick over a detail, that doesn't change the point... ignore the truth. :rolleyes:





3. Lets see the 5 yard penalty was an automatic first daown on a 3rd and 16 and you completeed an 8 yard pass... meaning PUNT... but the call keep the drive alive to score... which is what I said... and a 3rd and 16 turns into a first down on a bogus 5 yard holding call... I call that a HUGE break. that is the truth, not like it was an offsides that on 2nd an 3 type of first down, you tried and make it appear.

again keep living in fantasy land, and spin your little tales. Nit picking were I made a couple minor detail mistakes, didn't change the truth of the actual situation. So you win.. I was WRONG on two little details going on memory.

but my point stays the same... and is the TRUTH


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1. They had the ball had moved over 40 yards into Redskins territory to the 34 then lost 3 to the 37 this is not the 50 or 40 as you proclaim thats called a drive bubba they dont get penalties and gain 5 more yards They kick the winning FG thats reality bubba

2. you were wrong wow you admit it finally. Also why didnt you mention that HUGE (bogus lol) Pass interference penalty called against dallas for 27 yards I believe that led to seattle scoring?

3. SO what you just quoted was me saying they had a penalty that gave us a first down, yet later on you said that I was saying they didn;t get a penalty. Bogus holding? Now i know you didnt watch the game. Thats ok I have noticed a trend all calls against the redskins are bogus all calls against teams playing the Cowboys are bogus



again keep living in fantasy land, and spin your little tales.


I live in the real world bubba and my "little tales" are the truth if you can't handle reality and truth I will leave you alone I know you are having a rough year. But next time you decide to start saying things that happened in a Cowboys game at least do some research so you dont look so bad when you get everything wrong ok I am here for you if you need me bubba if you have questions just PM me ok :) bye now

[4skins23]

Its easy to say we will end 8-8 or 9-7. But as a fan Im tired of giving up on the season come week 10 or 9. We are 5-5 with a much easier schedule than any of the teams ahead of us in the race. I do hate to predict because you never know in this league, but why cant we make the playoffs. We beat Chicago and their there. We beat Seattle and their there. We beat Dallas and their there. Why cant we have a late season turnaroung like some of these other teams.


We have to be behind this team and encourage them. Ask New England are they quittin. Ask Minnesota have they quit.

Got Da##it Lets Go!!!!:point2sky :point2sky




I don't think we'll have a "turnaround" because we have too many problems.While the other teams were getting stronger every week,we are getting players more hurt every week.Then comes the inexperienced players to fill in-playing sloppy.penalties,turnovers........ Those things are killing us more than anything-this week it happened to be Portis.Next week who?It seems that Gibbs is focusing more on excuses why we're losing vs.correcting the problems at hand.Alot of blame goes to management for not addressing penalties and fumbles earlier.And the reason the defense is slipping?Management keeps trading away "pro-bowl caliber" players--Bailey,Smoot,who else?

[bubba9497]

1. They had the ball had moved over 40 yards into Redskins territory thats called a drive bubba they dont get penalties and gain 5 more yards They kick the winning FG thats reality bubba

2. you were wrong wow you admit it finally.

3. SO what you just quoted was me saying they had a penalty that gave us a first down, yet later on you said that I was saying they didn;t get a penalty. Bogus holding? Now i know you didnt watch the game. Thats ok I have noticed a trend all calls against the redskins are bogus all calls against teams playing the Cowboys are bogus





I live in the real world bubba and my "little tales" are the truth if you can't handle reality and truth I will leave you alone I know you are having a rough year. But next time you decide to start saying things that happened in a Cowboys game at least do some reserch so you dont look so bad when you get everything wrong ok I am here for you if you need me bubba if you have questions just PM me ok :) bye now


1. sure a 56 yarder ... reality they were not driving, and hadn't moved the ball much the entire game, their TD was off a fumbled KO inside our 20.

:laugh:

2. Yep a minor detail... but again you refuse to admit the point was the truth. typical

3. Dude you said it wasn't a HUGE penalty... they got a five yarder we got a five yarder.... That was like saying the empire state building is just a building in New York. It was HUGE, and kept the Pokes alive instead of punting. Even you can see the difference.

Denying the truth isn't living in reality. Poke fans delight in coming here trying to poo poo everything the Skins accomplish, but when the Pokes flaws are exposed... you go in full denial mode attacking anyone who points it out.... That's denial.

Here's some TRUTH for you... The Pokes have been just as lucky if not more so than any team (Skins included) this season. 4 of their seven wins could have as easily been loses as win... maybe more so in a couple. The Pokes have played a fairly easy schedule so far... but that comes to a screeching halt Thursday. It is easy to talk big beating Detroit and Arizonia... Let see how they do against some varsity team. We went .500 could have been better, could have been worse. But we now get a couple of JV games, and play the Giants in a grudge match on our turf, the Pokes at home for the sweep, and a falling eagles team, without McNabb, and a sinking Rams team. The window of opportunity is still open, and we will have to play better than we did Sunday to make it through

The Cowboys have a real test ahead of them, and so far they haven't shown they can pass it. You can't expect to get breaks the entire season. The mere fact the defense gives up 4th quarter leads, Your Safety gets beat deep too much, no real running game, a shaky OL, a QB statue who is prone to take sacks and throws INTs, would scare the crap out of any knowledgeable football fan. False bravo will not change anything.

This is an honest non bias opinion... 3-3 will be a miracle, 2-4 more likely, worse case 1-5

Good Luck, you are going to need it.

[5 Super Bowls]

This is an honest non bias opinion... 3-3 will be a miracle, 2-4 more likely, worse case 1-5

Good Luck, you are going to need it.

Bubba I think you have demonstrated that you are incapable of an honest non bias opinion of the cowboys. :laugh:

Good luck the rest of the way. See ya in december. I expect it will be a tough game.

BTW. The only truth about the Cowboys and Redskins is their records. Except for the first meeting where we were clearly outplayed 14-13. :notworthy Shoulda Coulda Wish I Woulda, don't fly.

[sircharlz]

I originally started this thread...... how did (3) others post before me? Not that I care about credit or anything, I just couldn't find it because of the name of the thread starter.

[KingRex]

I originally started this thread...... how did (3) others post before me? Not that I care about credit or anything, I just couldn't find it because of the name of the thread starter.
To find threads you started, go to the Active Users box. Your username will be first. Click on it and a new window with your profile will open. In the box, Forum posts, click threads started by user.

[bubba9497]

I originally started this thread...... how did (3) others post before me? Not that I care about credit or anything, I just couldn't find it because of the name of the thread starter.

probably merged

[ThornWithin]

50 or 40.... At least I proved they weren't driving as you suggest, a 61 yard kick :laugh:

keep spinning.... want change what was... and it won't stop what's coming :D

talk to me in six weeks

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK

Boy, you really are gifted.

They drove from their own 25 to your 34.

That's a drive of 41 yards.

Also, 34 + 17 = 51 yard kick. Not 61.

Gee, you are an impressive one.

By the way, in Six weeks You'll have a losing record and be talking about being "next year's champions".


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK. ;)

[ThornWithin]

Go buy a Dallas jersey if you want to be so anti-redskins about it. You're a sad excuse for a fan. If you have no faith, then you are not a fan.

Look at my signature.

Wow. WOW.

[bubba9497]

Look at my signature.

Wow. WOW.


yeah your taste in teams leaves a lot to be desired :puke:

[Gooseskins]

Boy, you really are gifted.

They drove from their own 25 to your 34.

That's a drive of 41 yards.

Also, 34 + 17 = 51 yard kick. Not 61.

Gee, you are an impressive one.

By the way, in Six weeks You'll have a losing record and be talking about being "next year's champions".


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK. ;)

By the way Cowboy man.....you do not kick a game winning field goal with 8 minutes left in the game......sort of a lot of time left on the clock. And if you are going to play "ifs" and "buts" then you could say if Alstott was not called a TD and if the fumble was not ruled down in the Raiders game. They go both ways pal.

We are going to have a lossing record? Now that you have said it....it must be true. Thanks Cowboy man.

[bubba9497]

Boy, you really are gifted.

They drove from their own 25 to your 34.

That's a drive of 41 yards.

Also, 34 + 17 = 51 yard kick. Not 61.

Gee, you are an impressive one.

By the way, in Six weeks You'll have a losing record and be talking about being "next year's champions".


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK. ;)


2-13-WAS37 (7:38) PENALTY on CHI-F.Miller, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 37 - No Play.
2-18-WAS42 (7:15) PENALTY on CHI-J.Tait, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 42 - No Play.
2-23-WAS47 (6:56) PENALTY on CHI-R.Brown, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 47 - No Play.
2-28-CHI48 (6:37) K.Orton sacked at CHI 38 for -10 yards (D.Evans).
3-38-CHI38 (6:01) K.Orton pass incomplete to M.Muhammad.

without the penalties which they earned BTW, the next play was a -10 yards sack. 51 + 10= anyone? anyone? 61

3 penalties, a sack, and an incomplete pass,.... that's not driving :laugh:



in six weeks we'll have a winning record laughing at the pokes' collapse


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/da7a45e1.jpg

[ThornWithin]

yeah your taste in teams leaves a lot to be desired :puke:

I was commenting on the fact that the poster who said what he did assumed I was a redskins fan.

When I clearly have Julius Jones in my bright, prominent signature.

Why am I not surprised? We already have seen that the word "lose" doesn't exist around here, since everyone seems to use "loose" instead.

Bubba, every post you've made in this thread is chock full of holes. About the only things you do with consistency is homer out and say "TICK TOCK TICK TOCK".

For example, you keep saying that the Bears were not driving. Umm, bud, they had a 10 play drive that spanned at max nearly half the field. That's kind of a drive. Also, you've managed on multiple occassions to say the field goal would have been 56 yards, 61 yards, and 80 yards. (Although I realize that the 80 yard comment was probably made in sarcasm). 51 yards, and that's assuming that they didn't gain any more yards from the point they were at.

Like I said, we're 7-3, you're 5-5. We're on our way to our second winning season in the past three years, something you can only dream of. No amount spin doctoring changes the cold hard fact that we're two games up in the East, and we're only going to get better.

Tick. Tock.

[ThornWithin]

Also, since you and I seem to be going at it a bit, any interest in some form of a bet? It just came to mind. :cheers:

[bubba9497]

We are going to have a lossing record? Now that you have said it....it must be true. Thanks Cowboy man.


trying hard to convince himself, cause Poke fans live in

D-E-N-I-A-L!

[ThornWithin]

2-13-WAS37 (7:38) PENALTY on CHI-F.Miller, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 37 - No Play.
2-18-WAS42 (7:15) PENALTY on CHI-J.Tait, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 42 - No Play.
2-23-WAS47 (6:56) PENALTY on CHI-R.Brown, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 47 - No Play.
2-28-CHI48 (6:37) K.Orton sacked at CHI 38 for -10 yards (D.Evans).
3-38-CHI38 (6:01) K.Orton pass incomplete to M.Muhammad.

without the penalties which they earned BTW, the next play was a -10 yards sack. 51 + 10= anyone? anyone? 61

3 penalties, a sack, and an incomplete pass,.... that's not driving :laugh:



in six weeks we'll have a winning record laughing at the pokes' collapse


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/da7a45e1.jpg

:doh:

Do you REALLY THINK they would call the same play had they had 2nd and 13 (like they did prior to the false starts) and when they had 2nd and 28 after the penalties?

2nd and 13? You can run the ball to try and pick up a few yards.

2nd and 28? No choice, go deep.

Considering how few sacks your team has this season, I really don't think that its a sack for a loss of 10 if Chicago doesn't commit 3 false start penalties.

[THEHEREAFTER]

don't bet on it


lets remember we have played the toughest schedule in the NFC and the Giants and Pokes have played much easier schedule and more home games.

their real test is still coming up, and most of the Pokes wins have hardly been impressive.


De-nial ain't just a river in Egypt Bubba! I guess you've lost more impressively than we've won. :laugh: :laugh: You're pretty much my only reason left to keep coming back to this site... keep it comin'!

[ThornWithin]

trying hard to convince himself, cause Poke fans live in

D-E-N-I-A-L!

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

So let me get this straight.

If a "Poke fan" looks at the fact that the Washington Slurs have managed two wins against absolutely devastated teams in the past seven games, and decides that they will finish the season with a losing record (When they are currently 5-5 and about to face the hottest team in the AFC West) he's in denial? Denial of WHAT? Actually, I'm in ACCEPTANCE of recent trends. You've lost five out of your last seven, and there are no signs that that is going to change.

I think you're the one who's in denial Bubba. It's kind of sad actually, that instead of realizing the only teams you've been able to beat in the past two months were San Francisco (at home) and Philadelphia (IMMEDIATELY after the TO suspension, at home) you choose to think you're going to have a winning record come season's end.

And I'm in denial. I'm saying we're probably going to finish the year 3-3. If that's a "Poke fan" in "Denial", then you're a skins fan who's gone absolutely insane, by the same scale.

:doh:

[Peter56s14gc]

If the last 6-8 games have exposed 1 thing in this division, it isnt anything deragtory about the Giants or Cowboys

You guys got hyped for a 3-0 start in 3 games you could have easily lost. You've since lost 3-4 games you could have won. Thats the definition of mediocrity. You play close games every week because you arent good enough to get seperation on anybody. Your record is 5-5 and it couldnt be more appropriate for the talent level and the way youve played

This is a 2 team race. You are closer to last place right now then you are to 1st

Eli the future needs to smoke his rocks somewhere else, some of the g's games could have gone either way. Eli was a midseason hype, you all rally mid season and think you're god. We still have 6 more games- we'll see whos hype.

We dont smoke rocks here, take them rocks back to NY.

[bubba9497]

I was commenting on the fact that the poster who said what he did assumed I was a redskins fan.

When I clearly have Julius Jones in my bright, prominent signature.

Why am I not surprised? We already have seen that the word "lose" doesn't exist around here, since everyone seems to use "loose" instead.

Bubba, every post you've made in this thread is chock full of holes. About the only things you do with consistency is homer out and say "TICK TOCK TICK TOCK".

For example, you keep saying that the Bears were not driving. Umm, bud, they had a 10 play drive that spanned at max nearly half the field. That's kind of a drive. Also, you've managed on multiple occassions to say the field goal would have been 56 yards, 61 yards, and 80 yards. (Although I realize that the 80 yard comment was probably made in sarcasm). 51 yards, and that's assuming that they didn't gain any more yards from the point they were at.

Like I said, we're 7-3, you're 5-5. We're on our way to our second winning season in the past three years, something you can only dream of. No amount spin doctoring changes the cold hard fact that we're two games up in the East, and we're only going to get better.

Tick. Tock.


How many teams kick a fg on 1st down?... and you keep acting like three penalties and a sack didn't happen... yet they did. When youare driving they go forward not backwards... simple concept :rolleyes:

BTW the 56 yard FG comment was to your fellow dilussionalist who said the bears would have gotten another five yards.

Instead of nitpicking over minute details, that doesn't change reality... address some of the point that have been brought up... but fully ignored by you and your brethern.

Like The Pokes easy schedule so far, and the fact they have more win that could be loses than loses that could be wins. Yes we are .500 against the toughest schedule in the NFC so far. You want to say the TWO touchdown passes were luck :rolleyes: ... and a missed FG was luck :rolleyes: ... but ignore the screw jobs in Denver and Tampa that changed the actual score of the games. You ignore The gifts your team has received against lesser foes... then try an attempt to BS us into believing we can't win against an easier schedule than we have faced all season because we lost to the Raiders.. a team you also lost to.. But the Cowboys are somehow going to rise to the challenge and face a much tougher schedule the next six games.. and win like they did against the powerhouse cards and lions???? :laugh:

Yeah I will sig bet you that we have a better record over the next 6 ganes than the Pokes. Loser has to display the sig of the winners choice (within board rules) on both this board and the Pokes board you call home through the playoffs

[Peter56s14gc]

Boy, you really are gifted.

They drove from their own 25 to your 34.

That's a drive of 41 yards.

Also, 34 + 17 = 51 yard kick. Not 61.

Gee, you are an impressive one.

By the way, in Six weeks You'll have a losing record and be talking about being "next year's champions".


TICK TOCK TICK TOCK. ;)

once again we got people smoking rocks... i thought rocks were only in NY, take them rocks back to the heartland of america.

[bubba9497]

Real easy to talk big after beating the Cards and Lions :rolleyes:

but this is a 16 game season... and now you have to face some real teams... that we have already played I might add.

again see me in 6 weeks with this same bravado after your team shows what it is really made of .... The pokes going 0-6 would be absolutely harilious.

But I think you can beat the Rams... they are hurting... you might luck out a win against the Giants or Chiefs.. but I doubt it....1 win out of those two is being generous

You lost to the Skins at home... yeah your going to win in DC :jerk: and there is no way you beat a well balance Panther team on the road, with as many holes as your team has right now (take off the poke colored glasses) .... :laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

dude you like everyone else forgets the close wins the Cowboys lucked into.

They beat the Chargers without Gates, and got a huge call to keep their last scoring drive alive, they just barely beat San Fran, they catch a big break when jacobs fumbled the go ahead TD on the goal line, andbeat the Giants in OT despite the fact both teams had 4 turnovers each. And The last Philly game was a gift if ever there was one.

In fact they have only played two games where they won decidedly The first Eagles game (when they first started falling) and today against a bad Lions team. They are getting ready to play the part of their schedule we went 2-4 through.

The season is a marathon, 16 games it doesn't matter where the wins and losses come... at the end of the year they all add up.


Yes we lost to the Raiders, but that is one loss from 5-4, and before the loss we weren't so sure the Skins were out of it. If this team can get both the offense & defense playing together we will win . But that is a big IF

Should I even start naming your breaks.... :doh: :laugh: Breaks even out.. home games obviously even out... reality will soon set in..

[Dirtbag 28]

Dude, what are you lost?? Your Cowbells are OVER RATED!! Like "Most" Parcells teams. You will get beat by the Broncos and by us. The Redskins will win the Division. The Giants are "Colt Posers", Eagles are, well lets say Eagles again. I do have to give your team credit for one thing though, you find a way to get the media on your side year after year. I can wait to hand the Cowbells there final blow in December!!! :dallasuck




I was commenting on the fact that the poster who said what he did assumed I was a redskins fan.

When I clearly have Julius Jones in my bright, prominent signature.

Why am I not surprised? We already have seen that the word "lose" doesn't exist around here, since everyone seems to use "loose" instead.

Bubba, every post you've made in this thread is chock full of holes. About the only things you do with consistency is homer out and say "TICK TOCK TICK TOCK".

For example, you keep saying that the Bears were not driving. Umm, bud, they had a 10 play drive that spanned at max nearly half the field. That's kind of a drive. Also, you've managed on multiple occassions to say the field goal would have been 56 yards, 61 yards, and 80 yards. (Although I realize that the 80 yard comment was probably made in sarcasm). 51 yards, and that's assuming that they didn't gain any more yards from the point they were at.

Like I said, we're 7-3, you're 5-5. We're on our way to our second winning season in the past three years, something you can only dream of. No amount spin doctoring changes the cold hard fact that we're two games up in the East, and we're only going to get better.

Tick. Tock.

[tr1]

Sniff....sniff...what's that foul odor? Oh, I see...it's all of the puke fans on this thread.

Where's the exterminator?

P.....U....

Come back in 6 weeks...we'll talk then.






.

[ThornWithin]

How many teams kick a fg on 1st down?... and you keep acting like three penalties and a sack didn't happen... yet they did. When youare driving they go forward not backwards... simple concept :rolleyes:

BTW the 56 yard FG comment was to your fellow dilussionalist who said the bears would have gotten another five yards.

Instead of nitpicking over minute details, that doesn't change reality... address some of the point that have been brought up... but fully ignored by you and your brethern.

Like The Pokes easy schedule so far, and the fact they have more win that could be loses than loses that could be wins. Yes we are .500 against the toughest schedule in the NFC so far. You want to say the TWO touchdown passes were luck :rolleyes: ... and a missed FG was luck :rolleyes: ... but ignore the screw jobs in Denver and Tampa that changed the actual score of the games. You ignore The gifts your team has received against lesser foes... then try an attempt to BS us into believing we can't win against an easier schedule than we have faced all season because we lost to the Raiders.. a team you also lost to.. But the Cowboys are somehow going to rise to the challenge and face a much tougher schedule the next six games.. and win like they did against the powerhouse cards and lions???? :laugh:

Yeah I will sig bet you that we have a better record over the next 6 ganes than the Pokes. Loser has to display the sig of the winners choice (within board rules) on both this board and the Pokes board you call home through the playoffs

I DID address the point about our schedule being easier up till this point. I said you were...RIGHT! Your schedule has been more difficult.

Also, if you don't want to talk about hypotheticals "Since the three false starts and a sack DID happen" then guess what?

We're 7-3.

You're 5-5.

And that DID happen.

;)

[ThornWithin]

Sniff....sniff...what's that foul odor? Oh, I see...it's all of the puke fans on this thread.

Where's the exterminator?

P.....U....

Come back in 6 weeks...we'll talk then.






.

I'll be here. And trust me, when the Cowboys are in the playoffs and the Skins are in the cellar, you're going to regret making a fool out of yourself (much like Bubba) and predicting your "rise to the top" and our "imminent fall".

:cheers:

[Dirtbag 28]

"Pride commeth before the fall":dallasuck




I'll be here. And trust me, when the Cowboys are in the playoffs and the Skins are in the cellar, you're going to regret making a fool out of yourself (much like Bubba) and predicting your "rise to the top" and our "imminent fall".

:cheers:

[bubba9497]

We're 7-3.

You're 5-5.

And that DID happen.

;)


and 14-13

again the season is 16 weeks not 10.... HELLO! :laugh:

[ThornWithin]

Dude, what are you lost?? Your Cowbells are OVER RATED!! Like "Most" Parcells teams. You will get beat by the Broncos and by us. The Redskins will win the Division. The Giants are "Colt Posers", Eagles are, well lets say Eagles again. I do have to give your team credit for one thing though, you find a way to get the media on your side year after year. I can wait to hand the Cowbells there final blow in December!!! :dallasuck

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Is this the best you guys can do? You just call everyone else overrated, then say "The Redskins will win the division".

WHY? What have you done in the past seven weeks to prove that? The answer is absolutely nothing.

Saying "The Redskins will win the East" is being a homer, cut and dry, plain and simple. I'm willing to believe there is a narrow, narrow possibility that you will finish well and tie/pass one of the two teams ahead of you (Dallas/New York) but how you expect to pass BOTH OF US from two games back with six to go is beyond me. :doh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Real easy to talk big after beating the Cards and Lions :rolleyes:

but this is a 16 game season... and now you have to face some real teams... that we have already played I might add.

again see me in 6 weeks with this same bravado after your team shows what it is really made of .... The pokes going 0-6 would be absolutely harilious.

But I think you can beat the Rams... they are hurting... you might luck out a win against the Giants or Chiefs.. but I doubt it....1 win out of those two is being generous

You lost to the Skins at home... yeah your going to win in DC :jerk: and there is no way you beat a well balance Panther team on the road, with as many holes as your team has right now (take off the poke colored glasses) .... :laugh:

The problem with your logic is that the tough part of our schedule keeps getting pushed back further and further.. and guess what? Now were becoming that tough team on someone elses schedule! You keep hoping Dallas will crumble while your skins are fading into the sunset.. Anything can happen in the NFL but the likelyhood of you going 6-0 and us going 0-6 is remote. :cool:

[ThornWithin]

and 14-13

again the season is 16 weeks not 10.... HELLO! :laugh:

You know what's so funny about the whole "14-13".

When Cowboy fans kept bring up the "14 out of 15" streak (or whatever it was) you kept saying "Well, that doesn't matter, because we've always had the better team, you just find ways to win when you shouldn't". And you guys were saying that about last year, when we both finished 6-10.

Now, the tables have turned. So, taking a page from the Extremeskins tradition:

We played better than you, you pulled out a win when you should have lost. We are the better team.

Hey, if we had beaten you in the exact same manner, you'd say the same thing. See: Crayton's catch last year at home.

Either way, it doesn't matter. I'd rather be 7-3 and lose to our biggest rival than 5-5 with a win in the rivalry. I'll take that every year. :D

[Dirtbag 28]

We will slip pass you just like we did in week 2, yes Dallas is overrated!! Sorry but its facts, we have been sloppy, but Gibbs always has a way to clean up slop. He has been there before, more than Parcells infact! Look at the records! I love you dallas fans, its good to bash with football talk!! :cheers:

Its also good to watch the fall of Dallas and the Rise of Washington!!!

ps Parcells will retire this year.



:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Is this the best you guys can do? You just call everyone else overrated, then say "The Redskins will win the division".

WHY? What have you done in the past seven weeks to prove that? The answer is absolutely nothing.

Saying "The Redskins will win the East" is being a homer, cut and dry, plain and simple. I'm willing to believe there is a narrow, narrow possibility that you will finish well and tie/pass one of the two teams ahead of you (Dallas/New York) but how you expect to pass BOTH OF US from two games back with six to go is beyond me. :doh:

[ThornWithin]

We will slip pass you just like we did in week 2, yes Dallas is overrated!! Sorry but its facts, we have been sloppy, but Gibbs always has a way to clean up slop. He has been there before, more than Parcells infact! Look at the records! I love you dallas fans, its good to bash with football talk!! :cheers:

Its also good to watch the fall of Dallas and the Rise of Washington!!!

ps Parcells will retire this year.

You know, I really wish I could hold all of you to these predictions.

I'll stick to my guns. If I'm wrong, I'll admit it. If you're wrong, you'll just talk about how "things will be different next year".

Also, regardless of what happens from here on out, how in the world could it be the "fall of Dallas"? If we finish 2-4, we'll still have a winning record for the year.

[THEHEREAFTER]

How many teams kick a fg on 1st down?... and you keep acting like three penalties and a sack didn't happen... yet they did. When youare driving they go forward not backwards... simple concept :rolleyes:

BTW the 56 yard FG comment was to your fellow dilussionalist who said the bears would have gotten another five yards.

Instead of nitpicking over minute details, that doesn't change reality... address some of the point that have been brought up... but fully ignored by you and your brethern.

Like The Pokes easy schedule so far, and the fact they have more win that could be loses than loses that could be wins. Yes we are .500 against the toughest schedule in the NFC so far. You want to say the TWO touchdown passes were luck :rolleyes: ... and a missed FG was luck :rolleyes: ... but ignore the screw jobs in Denver and Tampa that changed the actual score of the games. You ignore The gifts your team has received against lesser foes... then try an attempt to BS us into believing we can't win against an easier schedule than we have faced all season because we lost to the Raiders.. a team you also lost to.. But the Cowboys are somehow going to rise to the challenge and face a much tougher schedule the next six games.. and win like they did against the powerhouse cards and lions???? :laugh:

Yeah I will sig bet you that we have a better record over the next 6 ganes than the Pokes. Loser has to display the sig of the winners choice (within board rules) on both this board and the Pokes board you call home through the playoffs

I thought the "easy" part of your schedule was supposed to begin in Oakland... ohhh I guess that starts this week with 6-4 San Diego coming to town huh? Well just like Oakland, they're BETTER than their record suggests. Do yourself a favor and STOP analyzing win loss records of opponents/who should beat who based on record/who'se schedule is the toughest or easiest/what "should" happen down the stretch. You have to line up and just play.. there are too many variables which can decide the outcome of games. You really sound foolish but it's what you do well and why I continously laugh at you! :silly:

[Ryan21]

Our entire season rests on the game against the chargers if we beat them i can all but guranteee a play off birth ...after the chargers w eplay a bulger-less ram team ...go on the road against ari with no run game then come home ..if we some how sweep the 2 home games i expect us 2 day thats 10-5 heading into week 17. dallas on the other hand have denver at hom kc at home ...you all forget that kc is also in the hunt and a win against the pats at home will get them even closer im sure kc wins that game...they play us and the giants both on the road i for one think the giants are a much better football team then the cowboys. also at carolina LOL say they win both home games and win 1 road game 3-2 guess what ladies even with that generous record they have the same record and we have the tie breaker over them...giants on the other hand is a harder thing to figure out they have home games against dallas kc and go to philly washington and sea asuuming they lose to us they go 1-2 on the road and 2-0 at home again 10-5....so the last week we play on the road to phill dallas hosts st louis and giants finish on the road against oakland we would control our own destiny with the 4-1 division record ....this is all ofcourse if we win our home games against the ginats and dallas if we were to go 4-1 in next 5 tthen we cannot afford the loss to be against any division game id much rather have it against sd because no other nfc team will have a 8-2 conference record...but i also think if we lose to sd our season will be lost we need the momentum we need to beat a good team ....i unfortunatly leave in egypt so i expect all of u posters to be there sunday making some serious noise ill be watching the game remmeber to be honest if we win this game a 3 game streak could be coming for sure go out there dont lose hope we still have a legitmate shot

[bubba9497]

I thought the "easy" part of your schedule was supposed to begin in Oakland... ohhh I guess that starts this week with 6-4 San Diego coming to town huh? Well just like Oakland, they're BETTER than their record suggests. Do yourself a favor and STOP analyzing win loss records of opponents/who should beat who based on record/who'se schedule is the toughest or easiest/what "should" happen down the stretch. You have to line up and just play.. there are too many variables which can decide the outcome of games. You really sound foolish but it's what you do well and why I continously laugh at you! :silly:

dude you are so much in denial, I pointed out "other varibles" yet in poke fashion you'll just pretend they aren't there :laugh:

10 games do not a season make.....

come back in 6 weeks and see who looks foolish. :D

[THEHEREAFTER]

[QUOTE=scruffylookin]I agree.

We beat SD. (tough)
Denver beats Dallas (they will)



QUOTE]

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that you thought Dallas would lose to Philly @ Philly and wash. would beat Oakland @ home? :( :doh:

[bubba9497]

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that you thought Dallas would lose to Philly @ Philly and wash. would beat Oakland @ home? :( :doh:

and you thought your team would beat Washington at home... and the Raiders

your point? :laugh:

see you in 6 weeks

Tick Tock Tick Tock

[RRS73]

[QUOTE=scruffylookin]I agree.

We beat SD. (tough)
Denver beats Dallas (they will)



QUOTE]

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that you thought Dallas would lose to Philly @ Philly and wash. would beat Oakland @ home? :( :doh:


Why are you wasting your time arguing with a guy that has Joe Bugel as an avatar?

[Gooseskins]

[QUOTE=THEHEREAFTER]


Why are you wasting your time arguing with a guy that has Joe Bugel as an avatar?

And yours is a waterboy....what is your point?:laugh:

[sircharlz]

We're in the same situation we were last week - 2 games back from the Giants and Cowboys. However, since we lost the wildcard picture is even more clouded now.

The Eagles pulled even with us, Minnesota is 6-5 and St Lous is 5-6. It would seem that we need to win the east to make the playoffs, so once again........... HERE IS WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO WIN THE EAST. For those who insist on calling me stupid or insane, I'll assume you're just a moron who couldn't figure this out for yourself and still don't believe it and must resort to demeaning those who hold out all hope.