Is Portis better then any back we have faced?

[BrunellSuperbowl]

week 1 vs Bears, Thomas Jones , Portis push

week 2, Juluis jones Portis Push

week 4 Alexander over Portis

week 5 Tatum Bell vs Poris , Tatum Bell


Week 6 Preist Holmes vs Portis, Holmes

week 7 Portis vs brian westbrook, westbrook better overall

week 8 Portis vs williams of Bucs, probaly Portis

week 9 Portis vs Lamont Jordan, Lamont better overall


And this is our 50 million dollar back?

you can do the same thing with Brunell, he is probaly better then one of the QBs we faced all yr


Then you hear threads , laughing at people saying Portis being overrated


rest of schedule

Portis vs LT , LT

Portis vs Stephen Jackson SJ

Portis vs Cards , Portis

Portis vs Jones , Push

Portis vs Barber , Barber

Portis vs Westbrook , Westbrook


Portis is a middle of the pack to lower level back. stop getting it twisted

[WallyVon]

Portis is a good back, but he isn't worth what it took to get him.

[MeNoRevs]

I would say Holmes, Alexander and LT are really the only ones that are clearcut better then Portis....

[BrunellSuperbowl]

the only ones you can argue is Jones vs Portis


even if you get that , 12 of the 16 games the other team has a better running back

And our running back 15 out of the 16 game is making more money


And then you hear trading Portis threads and people mocking it

Portis was rated the second most overrated back by NFL football players in SI

[Billy Bullocks]

I totally agree. Most teams would like Portis, but not at the cost of a shut down CB. You could have saved the money of signing Springs, and probably kept Smoot.

Portis was not worth the money, or player given up to him. RB is one of the easier positins to find in the draft.

[#1SkinsFan]

week 1 vs Bears, Thomas Jones , Portis push

week 2, Juluis jones Portis Push

week 4 Alexander over Portis

week 5 Tatum Bell vs Poris , Tatum Bell


Week 6 Preist Holmes vs Portis, Holmes

week 7 Portis vs brian westbrook, westbrook better overall

week 8 Portis vs williams of Bucs, probaly Portis

week 9 Portis vs Lamont Jordan, Lamont better overall


And this is our 50 million dollar back?

you can do the same thing with Brunell, he is probaly better then one of the QBs we faced all yr


Then you hear threads , laughing at people saying Portis being overrated


rest of schedule

Portis vs LT , LT

Portis vs Stephen Jackson SJ

Portis vs Cards , Portis

Portis vs Jones , Push

Portis vs Barber , Barber

Portis vs Westbrook , Westbrook


Portis is a middle of the pack to lower level back. stop getting it twisted

no westbrook isnt better overall. He cant block as good as portis, isnt as elusive as portis, and they are both equally good recievers, so pleadse dont say that. And you are tellin me that a rookie running back Marion Barber is better than portis. Prove It. When it comes down to stats, portis is the third leading rusher out of all the backs we will have to face, behind Alexander and LT. And how is tatum Bell better than portis when he doesnt even start anymore? Also prove to me how Lamont Jordan is better than portis? Even with portis's 2 fumbles, he still is a more complete back than Jordan. Be a realist. And Portis is better than Julius Jones by far. Jones is injury prone and hasnt proved anything this season b/c he is always hurt. Holmes is 32 and hurt and is looking like he will retire after this season.

[WallyVon]

I totally agree. Most teams would like Portis, but not at the cost of a shut down CB. You could have saved the money of signing Springs, and probably kept Smoot.

Portis was not worth the money, or player given up to him. RB is one of the easier positins to find in the draft.

Not easier, EASIEST.

[The Guru]

Portis is better than Thomas Jones. Portis is better than J. Jones. Portis is better than Bell. Portis is better than Williams. Portis is better than Jordan.

He may not be living up to the hype, but there is no way he is a below average back. Chill out.

[bulldog]

Holmes is hurt and 32 years old. I would not take him over Portis.

What it ultimately comes down to is the best backs are put into systems that allow them to show off their skills. We are going to see that next week with Tomlinson.

The Chargers have an offensive system that is built around his talents in the run game.

I can't say that the Redskins have made the same commitment to Portis. He certainly doesn't get the same number of touches he used to get.

to me the Redskins on offense are still a unit in transition. Portis was used as a battering ram last year and this year he is being used more in a Roger Craig type role as a runner and short yardage receiver.

He's still on pace to rush for 1,300 yards despite the limited touches in some games.

how can anyone consider that to be a failure? Especially as his yards per carry average is up almost three quarters of a yard over last year?

[BrunellSuperbowl]

I would say Holmes, Alexander and LT are really the only ones that are clearcut better then Portis....

Thats BS. All of those running backs had better yrs last yr and this yr. Barber?, Tatum Bell? Thomas Jones this yr?

Are you kidding me?

Portis is not talented, He is flamboyant. He was drafted in second round for a reason. He does nothing outstanding. He is average back. He does not break the long ones , or get shot yardage, He is living off name

He is the Stephan Maurberry of the NFL. He puts up ok numbers but everytime he faces somebody you can swear the other guy better

[RDSKNfaithfull]

no westbrook isnt better overall. He cant block as good as portis, isnt as elusive as portis, and they are both equally good recievers, so pleadse dont say that. And you are tellin me that a rookie running back Marion Barber is better than portis. Prove It. When it comes down to stats, portis is the third leading rusher out of all the backs we will have to face, behind Alexander and LT. And how is tatum Bell better than portis when he doesnt even start anymore?


Why did you highlight Tiki? I don't really agree with the original post but Tiki is a better back at this point then Clinton.

[smack500]

I also dont see portis having huge running plays anymore.

[Fighting for old D.C.]

Portis isn't even better than the back he faces in practice - Ladell Betts.

[WallyVon]

no westbrook isnt better overall. He cant block as good as portis, isnt as elusive as portis, and they are both equally good recievers, so pleadse dont say that. And you are tellin me that a rookie running back Marion Barber is better than portis. Prove It. When it comes down to stats, portis is the third leading rusher out of all the backs we will have to face, behind Alexander and LT. And how is tatum Bell better than portis when he doesnt even start anymore?

Its Tiki Barber, not Marion Barber.

[BrunellSuperbowl]

no westbrook isnt better overall. He cant block as good as portis, isnt as elusive as portis, and they are both equally good recievers, so pleadse dont say that. And you are tellin me that a rookie running back Marion Barber is better than portis. Prove It. When it comes down to stats, portis is the third leading rusher out of all the backs we will have to face, behind Alexander and LT. And how is tatum Bell better than portis when he doesnt even start anymore? Also prove to me how Lamont Jordan is better than portis? Even with portis's 2 fumbles, he still is a more complete back than Jordan. Be a realist.

lol tiki barber a rushing champion having a great yr is not better then portis? come on

get real. Portis is a overrated stiff. Just because you have his jersey does not mean he is good. Lamont JORDAN HAS MORE TOTAL YARDS FROM THE LINE OF SCRIMMAGE THEN PORTIS DOES. So does Tiki BArber.Stop it man

[risdenks]

you can do the same thing with Brunell, he is probaly better then one of the QBs we faced all yr


yo are you kidding me about brunell?
brunell has been great this year... and its ridiculous that some people
are asking for ramsey back?
brunell is in the top of the pack in terms of QB ratings and stats

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Portis isn't even better than the back he faces in practice - Ladell Betts.

Too bad Betts gets injured after every great performance:doh: he is not sturdy enough to be a #1 back. He runs to hard for his own good:doh: When Portis is not in the game teams don't load the box quite as much either.

[#1SkinsFan]

Its Tiki Barber, not Marion Barber.

agreed my bad

[BrunellSuperbowl]

the only guys i give you Portis being better then is Juilis Jones and the Bucs running back


Lamont jordant has 1100 yards from line of scrimmage already. That is killing Portis, Lamont was better last yr , better in college

Stephen Jackson is better then Portis

Tiki Barber better

Alexander better

LT better

Holmes better

The Denver backs maybe push, obvious Portis not better, these backs have huge games all yr

[BrunellSuperbowl]

Portis = Coles, they had two good yrs in good systems and the Skins over pay for them



Both second rounders from Florida schools. If you are going to pay 50 million go morgagE your future for a LT or a Reggie Bush. Do not do it on the rich mans Trung Canidate

[BrunellSuperbowl]

yo are you kidding me about brunell?
brunell has been great this year... and its ridiculous that some people
are asking for ramsey back?
brunell is in the top of the pack in terms of QB ratings and stats


great hmmm

vs bears , push with orton

vs cowboys he stunk up the joint accept for the last 4 mins, i call it push with bledose


vs seahawks , played well in spurts, hassleback was the better qb

vs broncos , out played plumber

vs cheifs out played green

vs giants stunk it up

vs 9ers was great , but that is vs 9ers

vs eagles , was ok, mcnabb playd better

vs bucs fumbled the game away,

today awful


that is like under 500 in out playing the other teams QB. He has been average at best this yr.. His only two good games vs good were both loses at KC and at Denver

Do not hype him up because he has a low INT ratio. He has a low int ratio because he throws the ball more then any QB in the history of the NFL because he does not want to lose his job

[JuliusCaesar]

week 1 vs Bears, Thomas Jones , Portis push

week 2, Juluis jones Portis Push

week 4 Alexander over Portis

week 5 Tatum Bell vs Poris , Tatum Bell


Week 6 Preist Holmes vs Portis, Holmes

week 7 Portis vs brian westbrook, westbrook better overall

week 8 Portis vs williams of Bucs, probaly Portis

week 9 Portis vs Lamont Jordan, Lamont better overall


And this is our 50 million dollar back?

you can do the same thing with Brunell, he is probaly better then one of the QBs we faced all yr


Then you hear threads , laughing at people saying Portis being overrated


rest of schedule

Portis vs LT , LT

Portis vs Stephen Jackson SJ

Portis vs Cards , Portis

Portis vs Jones , Push

Portis vs Barber , Barber

Portis vs Westbrook , Westbrook


Portis is a middle of the pack to lower level back. stop getting it twisted

you are very rough on portis. I'm a cowboys fan and I'd say that the only back that is better than Portis that you've faced thus far would be Alexander

Portis is definitely better than westbrook, julius jones, lamont jordan, priest holmes and tatum bell.

[BrunellSuperbowl]

you are very rough on portis. I'm a cowboys fan and I'd say that the only back that is better than Portis that you've faced thus far would be Alexander

Portis is definitely better than westbrook, julius jones, lamont jordan, priest holmes and tatum bell.


you do not watch the games or even look the stats, Westbrook, Preist holemes, Lamont Jordan are killing Portis in total yards from line of scrimmagee

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

Is this one of these portis is not being used right? I knew Portis was a fraud when he was saying how the coaches did not use him right.. Any player who talks like that is a overrated bust. That is the frist thing you hear from Kwame Browns and Rod Gardners.

Is Santana Moss being used right? You job is to beat your man on the football feild, simple as that

[skinthemboys]

Booooo!!! This thread sucks

This is too much.....It Takes a dallas fan to come in here and state the obvious.

[fpickering]

I totally agree. Most teams would like Portis, but not at the cost of a shut down CB. You could have saved the money of signing Springs, and probably kept Smoot.

Portis was not worth the money, or player given up to him. RB is one of the easier positins to find in the draft.

Let's get one thing straight... Roland Bailey is not a shut down corner. He is a top tier corner but he gets burned too much to carry the term shut down.

Portis is a top 10 back if you consider everything that he does.

[fpickering]

the only guys i give you Portis being better then is Juilis Jones and the Bucs running back

Lamont jordant has 1100 yards from line of scrimmage already. That is killing Portis, Lamont was better last yr , better in college

Stephen Jackson is better then Portis

Tiki Barber better

Alexander better

LT better

Holmes better

The Denver backs maybe push, obvious Portis not better, these backs have huge games all yr

The only backs in the league that are clear cut better than Portis are LT, Alexander and Edge. Then there is a group of 2nd tier backs which includes Portis, Barber, Jackson, Jamal Lewis (even though he is having a bad year) , Larry Johnson, LaMont Jordan, McGahee, and Warrick Dunn who are hard to measure when you take every aspect of their game into account... (blocking, picking up blitzes, yards, pass catching, propensity to fumble, TDs)

Portis is the 8th leading rusher in the NFL by yardage. He is averaging 4.5 yards per carry which is great. His TDs have been down but we just cannot open a hole for the guy most of the times at the goalline and we use our TEs and Hbacks a lot in the red zone.

[DButz65]

Portis is better than EVERY RB we have faced.... but our OLine isnt as good as those other teams IMO. Watch them, they get pushed back BEHIND the line of scrimmage constantly , they should be pushing them back the other way.
Running backs performances start UP FRONT - unless of course your name
was Barry Saunders.

[NorthCarolinaRedskin]

I'm sticking with Portis. He gains 5 yards on rushes when he runs into a pile of people at the line. Because he has POWERFUL legs. When he starts holding onto the ball and we rely on him more, you will like him again.

[NorthCarolinaRedskin]

Portis is better than EVERY RB we have faced.... but our OLine isnt as good as those other teams IMO. Watch them, they get pushed back BEHIND the line of scrimmage constantly , they should be pushing them back the other way.
Running backs performances start UP FRONT - unless of course your name
was Barry Saunders.
:applause:

[Moz Wanted]

lets seee portis is younger then julious jones
portis is younger then thomas jones
portis is younger then holmes
portis is younger then LAmont jordan
portis is younger then westbrook
portis is younger then alexander
portis is younger then tatum bell
portis is younger then tiki barber
portis is younger then barlow


yea portis sucks and he wont get any better right!!!!!!!hes 24 omg no way hes gona get better:rolleyes: 24 thats old:laugh:

[scruffylookin]

I'm a bit of a Portis apologist. Not quite on the LaVar level, but nonetheless an apologist.

With that out of the way, how do you think any of those runningbacks you've listed would do with our offense last season? Would they rush for 1300 plus yards in 15 games? How would they do with this offensive line blocking for them?

I think Clinton is a victim of the overpriced offensive line right now. When he had a good line in Denver, Clinton was a dynamic back. Right now he's not but that's due to the line. His considerable talent is allowing him to still put up some pretty good numbers, just not great ones.

Oh, and for the record, the only back we've faced or will face that I would want ahead of Clinton Portis is LT jr (sorry there's only one true LT). I don't believe any of the other backs would do better (and most would do worse) with this O line.

[TK]

lets seee portis is younger then julious jones
portis is younger then thomas jones
portis is younger then holmes
portis is younger then LAmont jordan
portis is younger then westbrook
portis is younger then alexander
portis is younger then tatum bell
portis is younger then tiki barber
portis is younger then barlow


yea portis sucks and he wont get any better right!!!!!!!hes 24 omg no way hes gona get better:rolleyes: 24 thats old:laugh:
See if this helps you, because I have NO idea what you tried to say.
http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/doc/punctuation/node02.html

[Moz Wanted]

Well you guys need to understand something. Most teams with good RB's got amazing o line, how many pro bowl linemen do we got?

[BrunellSuperbowl]

See if this helps you, because I have NO idea what you tried to say.
http://www.informatics.susx.ac.uk/doc/punctuation/node02.html

i am younger then portis

your point?

kwame brown is younger then jermaine oneal lol

[FootballGuy2677]

Portis is a AWESOME overall back...but 50 million dollars and a shut down corner for him...no thanks. Hes 25 million dollar back at most if hes lucky...suprisingly he got really lucky...We can thank Drew Rosenhaus for this...

[BrunellSuperbowl]

Portis is a AWESOME overall back...but 50 million dollars and a shut down corner for him...no thanks. Hes 25 million dollar back at most if hes lucky...suprisingly he got really lucky...We can thank Drew Rosenhaus for this...

he is not awesome


He has no moves , he has nothing , he just runs straight foward and tires to bounce it out to the side. I never seen him make his man miss accpet for the first game last yr

Stephen Davis is the type of back we need. Takes like 4 guys to tackle him.

[cscmtp]

our line is the reason Portis isn't a top 5 back. Hell, he's not THAT far out of the top 5, but clearly, he doesn't get the huge holes you see other RBs getting.

[portis&taylor]

week 1 vs Bears, Thomas Jones , Portis push

week 2, Juluis jones Portis Push

week 4 Alexander over Portis

week 5 Tatum Bell vs Poris , Tatum Bell


Week 6 Preist Holmes vs Portis, Holmes

week 7 Portis vs brian westbrook, westbrook better overall

week 8 Portis vs williams of Bucs, probaly Portis

week 9 Portis vs Lamont Jordan, Lamont better overall


And this is our 50 million dollar back?

you can do the same thing with Brunell, he is probaly better then one of the QBs we faced all yr


Then you hear threads , laughing at people saying Portis being overrated


rest of schedule

Portis vs LT , LT

Portis vs Stephen Jackson SJ

Portis vs Cards , Portis

Portis vs Jones , Push

Portis vs Barber , Barber

Portis vs Westbrook , Westbrook


Portis is a middle of the pack to lower level back. stop getting it twisted
are you nuts I am sick really sick. Our fans pick westbroke and other of CP STOP KNOCKING ON PORTIS LETS SEE YOU GO OUT THERE AND RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are you really a fan?

[skin_finatic]

week 1 vs Bears, Thomas Jones , Portis push

week 2, Juluis jones Portis Push

week 4 Alexander over Portis

week 5 Tatum Bell vs Poris , Tatum Bell


Week 6 Preist Holmes vs Portis, Holmes

week 7 Portis vs brian westbrook, westbrook better overall

week 8 Portis vs williams of Bucs, probaly Portis

week 9 Portis vs Lamont Jordan, Lamont better overall


And this is our 50 million dollar back?

you can do the same thing with Brunell, he is probaly better then one of the QBs we faced all yr


Then you hear threads , laughing at people saying Portis being overrated


rest of schedule

Portis vs LT , LT

Portis vs Stephen Jackson SJ

Portis vs Cards , Portis

Portis vs Jones , Push

Portis vs Barber , Barber

Portis vs Westbrook , Westbrook


Portis is a middle of the pack to lower level back. stop getting it twisted


isn't portis like top 7 in rushing?

[skin_finatic]

the only guys i give you Portis being better then is Juilis Jones and the Bucs running back


Lamont jordant has 1100 yards from line of scrimmage already. That is killing Portis, Lamont was better last yr , better in college

Stephen Jackson is better then Portis

Tiki Barber better

Alexander better

LT better

Holmes better

The Denver backs maybe push, obvious Portis not better, these backs have huge games all yr

you have your opinion and I have mine, I think your wrong. Its like your taking some of the backs and trying to make a case that there better than portis. Only ones I can really say are alexander, lt, and holmes. Everyone else is equal or worse.

[skin_finatic]

he is not awesome


He has no moves , he has nothing , he just runs straight foward and tires to bounce it out to the side. I never seen him make his man miss accpet for the first game last yr

Stephen Davis is the type of back we need. Takes like 4 guys to tackle him.

no moves, no nothing lol, have you not watched any of the highlights ive made this year. He ripped the #1 bears defense for over 120 yards and the #2 bucs for 140. Damn dude I just don't get you. LOL takes 4 guys to tackles davis, hes averaging like only 3 yards a carry this year. Plus everytime he fumbled for us he would act like he was hurt.

[skin_finatic]

man hope these couple days come quicker so some people will stop posting dumb stuff.