Wake up Coaches... Teams know what we are doing!

[LiveStrongSkins]

Please go take a look at the Cooley and Jacobs article in the Redskins Breaking News section. It will make you sick. Moss and Cooley both hinted that once again a team knew what we were doing. Even Cooley said,"It was wierd that I wasnt doubled the whole game, but the two plays designed for me, I was." This is unacceptable. This is not the first team to do so. Why wont the coaches mix things up? Crap like this is why we arent over .500.

[fmorris]

Please go take a look at the Cooley and Jacobs article in the Redskins Breaking News section. It will make you sick. Moss and Cooley both hinted that once again a team knew what we were doing. Even Cooley said,"It was wierd that I wasnt doubled the whole game, but the two plays designed for me, I was." This is unacceptable. This is not the first team to do so. Why wont the coaches mix things up? Crap like this is why we arent over .500.


Every team knows what every team is doing. It's not like they only have access to our film and no one elses. It's all about execution. Did Cooley talk about the pass that he dropped?? You know...the one that was thrown perfectly? I didn't see anything in particular wrong with the play calling. They took quite a few shots down the field, but the execution was off. The coaches didn't design for Portis to cough it up...twice. Let it go man.

[RedskinzOwnU]

The only time I felt confident in our offensive scheme was, oddly enough, against the eagles. We came out with all kinds of packages and formations, it looked like a totally new offense. We had 2 backs behind the QB, we went 4-wide, we did everything under the sun. And, for the first time, I had no idea what kinda play we were going to run. We ran the draw with 4-wide, we threw to backs and everywhere on the field. I was so excited after watching that game. And now we've reverted back to the same old boring hum-dum gibbs offense that can't do anything right (as far as his 2nd tenure is concerned, and quite franky, i'm losing interest in his first tenure as a justification for all this because this is turning into one of the most un-imaginitive offenses i've ever seen. for all the touting about gibbs' ability to adapt, i don't see it. He's instilled a fight and spirit into this team that we lacked, and I'm thankful for that, but as a coach he's also responsible for the X's and O's, and I put the blame for the offensive woes - and they are offensive - squarely on his shoulders). Ok that was a long parenthetical.

[skinsbosoxheels]

From what I have seen this staff is terrible at Clock Management...Play calling is way to conservative esspecially when we have the lead..this staff has cost us at least 2 games..I won't say anything bad or out of the way about Gibbs..cause I may get banned..but I will say he has surrounded himself with some sorry..old..outdated..senile coaches

[SkinsHokieFan]

People knew what we were going to do in the 80s and early 90s

It really is all about execution here

With the way film is broken down, it is very tough to "surprise" a team

But when you do, you gotta take advantage of it

[RedskinzOwnU]

Yea, people knew what we were gonna do back then, and we did it anyway, but why did that work? Because we had the players, we had superior players and we could rely on them to do what they do best. We don't have that kind of team now. We have some superior players, we also have a lot of players that quite frankly just aren't reliable. When you're coaching a team like that, you can't force them to be superior players, you have to gameplan accordingly. You have to scheme better. You have to mask your weaknesses, and when I say mask your weakness, I dont mean overcompensate for them with something like max-protect - I mean hide them, and try something different if plan A isn't working. There was no plan B against oakland. You could feel the momentum shifting all game, and we sat on our thumbs.

[DCBnG21]

What do you not get about the scheme? It is all about execution. By the way, they lull them by executing the same plays over and over (which, by the way, do not often result in drive-ending punts when executed correctly) then they surprise them with a big play.

Same kind of plodding, grinding offense that you saw win a couple of SB's for the Pats... Remember when they were so underrated, but winning every game? The third Pat's SB was a little different, much more explosiveness on that offense. Anyways, it's not about the scheme, it's about holding onto the football and EXECUTING.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Yea, people knew what we were gonna do back then, and we did it anyway, but why did that work? Because we had the players, we had superior players and we could rely on them to do what they do best. We don't have that kind of team now. We have some superior players, we also have a lot of players that quite frankly just aren't reliable. When you're coaching a team like that, you can't force them to be superior players, you have to gameplan accordingly. You have to scheme better. You have to mask your weaknesses, and when I say mask your weakness, I dont mean overcompensate for them with something like max-protect - I mean hide them, and try something different if plan A isn't working. There was no plan B against oakland. You could feel the momentum shifting all game, and we sat on our thumbs.


Do you really think our team had superior players in the 80s and early 90s?

Seriously think about that for a second.

Gibbs' teams never really had big superstars. For the most part the QB's were above average, as were the running backs

The posse was great, and our D was a bunch of solid players

The thing was the guys played as a TEAM, played their assignments and got the job done

Gibbs did mask many weakness' and deficiancies back then very well. For example coming up with the 1 back set to stop Lawrence Taylor who was reaking havoc on us in the mid 1980s

Rolling Rypien out of the pocket, running right at Bruce Smith in the Super Bowl

But, the players executed the game plan

The running back's and WR's didn't fumble 3-4 times a game

The right tackle would block a DE on a 4th and 2

The QB got rid of the ball or stepped up in the pocket

Execution people, exectuion

[RedskinzOwnU]

Yea, it's about exectuing when you have a team that can execute. I think the past few weeks have shown that this is not a team that you can always rely on to go "execute" (giants, D in tampa, oakland). When you can't rely on execution, and, as I've already made clear, that you can't this year, you have to make up for it in scheme. Also, your point about the patriots doesn't help your cause. The patriots are all about scheme, every year they didnt have the best players, but they put their players in the best positions to make a play. Did you notice how they played every game so differently, and when they didnt have a good runningback they used the short passing game as a running game. Belichick's/Weis' offensive scheme, and romeo's D scheme is what took them to the superbowls. They had some good players, some not so hot players, but they put them in positions to win. We can have a similar team.

[The Full Monty]

Our QB is having trouble holding onto the ball when he gets hit. Everytime he gets sacked my heart skips a beat because I am afraid to hear the words "hit and the ball comes loose!"

[UK Skins]

I think the talent versus execution argument is a really interesting one. Back in the late 80s/early 90s I was still learning about the game and thought every one of our players was a superstar. Now people tell me different. I guess the truth was somewhere in the middle?

We certainly don't have a posse, although Moss on form probably plays as good as one of them. Is Samuels a better LT than Lachey? Taylor is probably a better safety than anyone we had then. Green of course tips the balance back the other way.

The two areas that stand out for me were the pass rush and the short yardage back. Gerald Riggs was unstoppable from a yard or two and I have fond memories of seeing opposing QBs going down game after game, often several times.

[Major Harris]

Yea, people knew what we were gonna do back then, and we did it anyway, but why did that work? Because we had the players, we had superior players and we could rely on them to do what they do best.

as evidenced by all the hall of famers from gibbs' 3 super bowl teams?

[SkinsHokieFan]

Also just another aside

After the Cowboys-Skins Monday Night Game in 2000 (Norv as coach) both the Cowboys and the guys on our squad felt the Cowboys knew what we were gonna do every play

Stephen Alexander even said it with the "it seemed they always knew the play" quote

Thats what happens when a team GETS STOPPED

[DEFENSEGURU]

Every team knows what every team is doing. It's not like they only have access to our film and no one elses. It's all about execution. Did Cooley talk about the pass that he dropped?? You know...the one that was thrown perfectly? I didn't see anything in particular wrong with the play calling. They took quite a few shots down the field, but the execution was off. The coaches didn't design for Portis to cough it up...twice. Let it go man.

"EVERY TEAM KNOWS WHAT EVERY TEAM IS DOING".

I don't think I have ever read a more rediculous statement.

"THEY TOOK QUITE A FEW SHOTS DOWNFIELD"

how many deep throws to Moss did you see exactly? I don't remember one. Were you watching the same game we were?

[sith lord]

"EVERY TEAM KNOWS WHAT EVERY TEAM IS DOING".

I don't think I have ever read a more rediculous statement.

"THEY TOOK QUITE A FEW SHOTS DOWNFIELD"

how many deep throws to Moss did you see exactly? I don't remember one. Were you watching the same game we were?

It's not that other teams know what we're doing. That's why teams study tape. What I think they're saying is that we're too predictable.

[JerseyGator]

It's about execution if you set your players up for success and have a variety of plays to keep defenses honest. Having Jacobs run fly patterns most of the day is easy to figure out.

Teams disguise the blitz. Offenses need to tweak their plays each week in attempts to disguise them.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

If this is common, why don't I read articles from other teams where players talk about the opponent knowing specific things (unless they have a former player just cut?) Why did it take so long to get a hard count from Brunell, when defensive opponents talked about jumping the snap?

In fact, why don't we read more NFL articles re: a team's predictability (by which I mean, not run or pass, but WHICH run or pass?)

Sorry, I don't buy it for one second. Certain running plays? sure. Pass plays?

Moss, Portis, Cooley--I guess they're all loudmouth malcontents.

[TK]

..I won't say anything bad or out of the way about Gibbs..cause I may get banned..
No you won't. However if you make another false statement like that, your odds will increase, but for a different reason.



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[RVAbrendan]

If the turnovers stop, I guarantee the Redskins will win out. Execution is the key. The plays can get pretty predictable, though. I remember a play where Oakland stacked the box, and The skins were lined up in a maxprotect, singleback formation, obviously running. You'd think they'd audible, but nah...as I thought would happen, they'd run the play, and low and behold, stopped for negative yardage. Mix it up a little!

[fmorris]

"EVERY TEAM KNOWS WHAT EVERY TEAM IS DOING".

I don't think I have ever read a more rediculous statement.

Take the time to read what I'm saying before you blabber about it being rediculous. The game is about blocking and tackling. 10 games worth of films. 5 wins, 5 losses. Every team is familiar with our schemes. They know that this team relies on Portis, Moss, Cooley and the basic schemes we use to get them the ball. As I said before, it's execution that determines our success.


"THEY TOOK QUITE A FEW SHOTS DOWNFIELD"

how many deep throws to Moss did you see exactly? I don't remember one. Were you watching the same game we were?

Did I say Moss? I said, and you quoted, "They took quite a few shots downfield."

[AzSkinsFan63]

Please go take a look at the Cooley and Jacobs article in the Redskins Breaking News section. It will make you sick. Moss and Cooley both hinted that once again a team knew what we were doing. Even Cooley said,"It was wierd that I wasnt doubled the whole game, but the two plays designed for me, I was." This is unacceptable. This is not the first team to do so. Why wont the coaches mix things up? Crap like this is why we arent over .500.

These guys are trying to say something else...IMHO

Teams look at game films all the time..there's a difference between guessing right and knowing the exact play called somehow..