View Full Version : KC Chiefs @ NY Giants:GAME THREAD:
chow184
December-17th-2005, 06:17 AM
lets go chiefs!!!!!
chiefs win this game,and we can take the lead in the NFC east by knocking down dallas sunday,and taking the giants down next week
D-Fence
December-17th-2005, 06:45 AM
what time is this game? 4 right?
HighPlainsDrifter
December-17th-2005, 06:46 AM
what time is this game? 4 right?
5:00 CBS :cheers:
hockeyguy1721
December-17th-2005, 06:53 AM
christmas shopping... all day :doh:
chow184
December-17th-2005, 07:01 AM
i hope this game is broadcast on TV down here in Va.
I would love to watch this game
Skinsfan1311
December-17th-2005, 07:06 AM
christmas shopping... all day :doh:
:laugh: :laugh: C'mon man! The stores will be open Monday too!!
Califan007
December-17th-2005, 08:39 AM
i hope this game is broadcast on TV down here in Va.
I would love to watch this game
I think it's being televised nationally...
SeanTaylorsDefense
December-17th-2005, 09:07 AM
yea nationally. If Larry Johnson eats up the Giants D like i expect him to do, I'm gonna buy his jersey.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 10:02 AM
This game is huge. We need KC to win.
chow184
December-17th-2005, 10:39 AM
I asked for this thread to be moved back to "the stadium" since this game is so vital to us
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 12:22 PM
giants by 10
raperry2
December-17th-2005, 12:25 PM
Pierce out for the year now. I had heard a week or two.... when was this announced?
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 12:40 PM
Yeah high ankle sprains are normaly 4-6 weeks
Joncevensen
December-17th-2005, 01:02 PM
Ill post play by play if I can watch the game. Hopefully Larry Johnson can continue to run over defenses
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 01:19 PM
Ill post play by play if I can watch the game. Hopefully Larry Johnson can continue to run over defenses There only 3 games today. The nation should get all 3 so there no need for a play by play.
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 02:01 PM
Pierce out for the year now. I had heard a week or two.... when was this announced?
Fox pre-game said out for rest of regular season.
high scoring game, Chiefs score last for the win
Major Harris
December-17th-2005, 02:19 PM
Fox pre-game said out for rest of regular season.
high scoring game, Chiefs score last for the win
if that is true, that will really hurt the giants defense.
not that i wish harm on anyone, but woohoo.
Chachie
December-17th-2005, 02:39 PM
Go Chiefs (except Larry Johnson, fantasy opponent) and Go REDSKINS.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 03:05 PM
This game means a lot. About 55 minutes until kickoff.
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 03:38 PM
Carlos Emmons was just announced out today too. So thats two starting linebackers out. undrafted rookie free agent lineback Chase Blackburn will start at MLB. God we are in for a world of hurt now.
Tom [Giants fan]
December-17th-2005, 03:47 PM
This is not good. Larry Johnson is going to break the single game rushing record for yards and TD's. :doh:
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 03:50 PM
']This is not good. Larry Johnson is going to break the single game rushing record for yards and TD's. :doh: Well if the D-line can get a push we can still stop him, but KCs o-lines so good I just dont know if anyone even osi and Strahan can.
Tom [Giants fan]
December-17th-2005, 03:52 PM
I had no idea Emmons was even questionable. I just found out that he isn't playing. This is awful. Chase Blackburn at the MLB position with the hottest RB in the NFL going today? Not good. Not good. Not good.
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 03:54 PM
Yeah Emmons was not even on the injury report i think. He must of hurt something warming up I guess.
Tom [Giants fan]
December-17th-2005, 03:55 PM
I just read on BBI that he reinjured his pectoral muscle yesterday.
ArmchairRedskin
December-17th-2005, 03:57 PM
']This is not good. Larry Johnson is going to break the single game rushing record for yards and TD's. :doh:
:cheers:
buckeyeG
December-17th-2005, 04:11 PM
']I had no idea Emmons was even questionable. I just found out that he isn't playing. This is awful. Chase Blackburn at the MLB position with the hottest RB in the NFL going today? Not good. Not good. Not good.
Tom I think it's great your on this site while your watching your team go down. :silly:
Here's to a good game. :cheers:
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:11 PM
Cheifs kickoff. Giants return it to their own 38.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:13 PM
Not a good way to start the game. 13 yard completion Eli Manning to Amani Toomer.
buckeyeG
December-17th-2005, 04:14 PM
Nice drop JS.
BrunellSuperbowl
December-17th-2005, 04:16 PM
thats why i wont be mad if skins do not make playoffs
how did thye lose the cheifs and bucs? they stink. a playoff team does not lose to those type of teams, the games should have been won by 14
buckeyeG
December-17th-2005, 04:16 PM
2 RUNS 0 yards for Tiki.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:17 PM
Cheifs need to stop em on 3rd downs...
Teller
December-17th-2005, 04:18 PM
Welcome back Tom! Good to see you here during the game!
Here's to no more injuries for the G-men, and a loss to make next week's game a steel-cage match for the title!
:cheers:
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:18 PM
thats why i wont be mad if skins do not make playoffs
how did thye lose the cheifs and bucs? they stink. a playoff team does not lose to those type of teams, the games should have been won by 14
Huh? Since when do the Cheifs stink. Did I miss something? And the Bucs dont stink either.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:19 PM
WOOHOO!!!fumble by the Giants recover by KC!!!!
rusty shackleford
December-17th-2005, 04:19 PM
Phil Simms is an idiot....
buckeyeG
December-17th-2005, 04:19 PM
It's a fumble!!! Chefs ball!
Teller
December-17th-2005, 04:21 PM
:hungry: LET'S GO CHEFS!!!:hungry:
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:22 PM
yes!!!!Ruling on the field stands...
ArmchairRedskin
December-17th-2005, 04:22 PM
Nice call refs
dpike619
December-17th-2005, 04:22 PM
Wow, the play stands. I was expecting that to get overturned.
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 04:24 PM
lol that's our play!
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:25 PM
Giants cant stop KC 1ST DOWN...
EDIT:They just did stop KC
buckeyeG
December-17th-2005, 04:25 PM
1st down chefs!
spjunkies
December-17th-2005, 04:25 PM
KC looking good so far
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:26 PM
Nice catch by Parker. Flag on the play.
Unsportsmanlike conduct by parker:1st down KC 15 yard penaly
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 04:26 PM
Simms: the ultimate giant homer
spjunkies
December-17th-2005, 04:28 PM
He tossed the ball at the guy and got a 15 yard flag
BS
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 04:28 PM
joined the game in progress......Chiefs looking good so far
GO CHIEFS!!!!!!
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 04:28 PM
the refs are helping the giants
Teller
December-17th-2005, 04:28 PM
Following on GameCenter and game thread...UGH!
Was the taunting call legit?
SeanTaylorsDefense
December-17th-2005, 04:29 PM
Talk about home team bias.
Teller
December-17th-2005, 04:30 PM
Talk about home team bias.
Apparently not! :laugh:
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:30 PM
Following on GameCenter and game thread...UGH!
Was the taunting call legit?
Didnt look like it was. But its ok.
TK
December-17th-2005, 04:30 PM
I agree with Sam Huff. Taunting is the dumbest call avaible to a crew of refs.
:cry: He's taunting me! :cry:
Teller
December-17th-2005, 04:31 PM
Didnt look like it was. But its ok.
Thanx. :cheers:
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:33 PM
2 offsides penaltys and a sack move the Cheifs out of field goal position...
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 04:33 PM
nice defensive series by the 12th man
TK
December-17th-2005, 04:33 PM
Didnt look like it was. But its ok.
Bogus 15 yard penalties are never ok when a team is playing one of our divisional rivals.
natem985
December-17th-2005, 04:33 PM
hopefully we'll get some of these home calls tomorrow
spjunkies
December-17th-2005, 04:33 PM
The dwarfs can thank the refs for stopping that drive
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 04:34 PM
Great job by the Special Teams.
Turnover time
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 04:34 PM
nice ST play, saving it from the end zone to stack them inside the 5.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:34 PM
Bogus 15 yard penalties are never ok when a team is playing one of our divisional rivals.
I guess your right. But I was saying that because right after that LJ picked up a first down to get them back to about the same spot.
Nice play by KC's special team unit. Giants ball near their own 3.
herrmag
December-17th-2005, 04:34 PM
He tossed the ball at the guy and got a 15 yard flag
BS
Actually, that's textbook taunting. You can't EVER toss the ball at an opposing player. He should've known better.
buckeyeG
December-17th-2005, 04:34 PM
2 false starts and a sack,where have I seen that befor.
Chefs punt down it at the 2-3.
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 04:37 PM
i had no doubt in my mind that they would give him that catch
edit: turns out it was a catch
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 04:38 PM
Sure Simms......most quarterbacks don't throw it away because they don't want to hurt their stats.
Give me a break
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 04:39 PM
4th and 10. Giants are forced to punt!!!!
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 04:39 PM
Simms: Eli is the best thing since....well, me. He never does anything wrong.
FightForOldDC21
December-17th-2005, 04:40 PM
eli gonna choke
Teller
December-17th-2005, 04:41 PM
Nice D stand. Good field position for KC upcoming!
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 04:43 PM
Come on KC....just pound it right at them
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 04:44 PM
chiefs are doing some serious holding out there.
not that i'm complaining :laugh:
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 04:48 PM
Interesting....that pass was "a little too far out of reach" when it was thrown by Green, but on the previous series when Eli threw essentially the same type of pass to Shockey and it too was a bit too far out of reach, the pass was a "good throw that was placed where it needed to be"
This worshipping of a mediocre Eli Manning is getting nauseating.
buckeyeG
December-17th-2005, 04:49 PM
1st down incomplete.
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 04:49 PM
OMG! a flag on the giants!!!!!!!
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 04:50 PM
man giants o-line cant get tiki any room. really missing are two tackles
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 04:50 PM
burress's hands have definately improved since leaving pitt.
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 04:52 PM
he didn't know if he was down! :mad:
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 04:53 PM
ticky tack call
herrmag
December-17th-2005, 04:53 PM
Sammy Knight is an idiot. Even if he didn't think he was down, all he had to do is touch him. What an idiot!
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 04:54 PM
Sammy Knight is an idiot. Even if he didn't think he was down, all he had to do is touch him. What an idiot!
tiki was trying to get up and i think knight did what he had to do.
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 04:55 PM
huge play changes field posistion. Yeah all he had to do was touch tiki no need for that.
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 04:55 PM
ticky tack call
I agree, these ref's are flag happy
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 04:57 PM
Sammy Knight is an idiot. Even if he didn't think he was down, all he had to do is touch him. What an idiot!
What? it is football not soccer
The refs are going to decide this game. That is pretty evident to me.
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 04:57 PM
Bad throw...........any Eli criticsm?.........nope.......didn't expect any from these guys
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 04:57 PM
alrite,now come on LJ
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 05:00 PM
1st down!!!! Time for a scoring drive...
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:00 PM
wow kennison just laid out mr simms' "spotlight guy"
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:00 PM
ha ha, that rookie MB got layed the F out. Chump.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 05:01 PM
Ouch. What a hit by Kennison on that block.
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:01 PM
Just keep pounding them KC.......they cannot stop you
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:01 PM
I hope the dirtbags and Portis are watching the Chiefs slice the Giants up.
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:01 PM
wow, i wish portis got the kinda blocking LJ gets....
herrmag
December-17th-2005, 05:01 PM
tiki was trying to get up and i think knight did what he had to do.
Doubt you'll see a replay, but it looked very much like Knight not only touched him while he was on the ground, but almost picked him up to drive him back. OH, and don't let those pesky whistles that tell you the play was over get in the way.
SlinginSammy HOF '63
December-17th-2005, 05:04 PM
Looks like the key to running on these guys is to hesitate to let your blockers set up the blocks.
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:04 PM
Dammit KC, take advantage. The score should be 17-0
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 05:05 PM
LJ is tearin it up today. Its gonna be a long day for the Giants D.
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:05 PM
LJ is a load. He's basically the same size as Stephen Davis (LJ 6-1 230, SD 6-0 230), at least as fast as SD in his prime (SD had speed back in the day, dont forget it), but he's got a bit more shake and bake. And he's behind a great offensive line.
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:05 PM
Larry Johnson is alot more nimble than I thought he was.....this guy's a hellava back
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:05 PM
that toss sweep they run is sick
dpike619
December-17th-2005, 05:06 PM
Johnson really does a great job of following his blockers. He's never moving all that fast, but he gets big gains even when it doesn't look like there's a huge hole to hit.
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 05:06 PM
Larry Johnson is a beast
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:06 PM
Doubt you'll see a replay, but it looked very much like Knight not only touched him while he was on the ground, but almost picked him up to drive him back. OH, and don't let those pesky whistles that tell you the play was over get in the way.
Um, I was watching, and unless I'm nuts, the whistle didnt blow until well after they Knight made contact. Clearly Knight didn't see that he was touched down, and the refs didnt blow the whistle indicating that fact. It was a cheesy call, as was the PF on the Chiefs receiver. Very ticky tack.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 05:07 PM
Damn...LJ was short. KC made the FG. 3-0 Cheifs.
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:07 PM
As big as he is though, he doesnt have SD's short yardage power.
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:07 PM
3-0 chiefs
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 05:08 PM
ran into his blocker :doh:
Teller
December-17th-2005, 05:08 PM
Damn. Needed a TD there!
dpike619
December-17th-2005, 05:08 PM
This is a surprisingly low scoring game so far.
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:09 PM
huge stop by the giants D. Huge big time stop.
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:09 PM
time for one of eli's patented bonehead INTs...
Awesome2
December-17th-2005, 05:09 PM
Huge props to the Giants defense there. You don't stop the Chiefs within the 3 yard line very often.
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 05:09 PM
Um, I was watching, and unless I'm nuts, the whistle didnt blow until well after they Knight made contact. Clearly Knight didn't see that he was touched down, and the refs didnt blow the whistle indicating that fact. It was a cheesy call, as was the PF on the Chiefs receiver. Very ticky tack.
bingo
herrmag
December-17th-2005, 05:10 PM
Um, I was watching, and unless I'm nuts, the whistle didnt blow until well after they Knight made contact. Clearly Knight didn't see that he was touched down, and the refs didnt blow the whistle indicating that fact. It was a cheesy call, as was the PF on the Chiefs receiver. Very ticky tack.
I'll concede the call on Knight since there won't be a replay (although I don't blame the refs for the call), but if you throw the ball at an opposing player, it's an automatic penalty. No question.
Now, if I can get away from defending the refs for a second :doh: , LJ needed that TD. I have a feeling he's going to breaking off some big runs really soon.
SlinginSammy HOF '63
December-17th-2005, 05:11 PM
Chiefs are ruining to many chances for points in this game.
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:13 PM
The Giants look like the floater I left in the bowl this morning.
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:13 PM
chiefs are tackling very well.
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:13 PM
when did KC learn to tackle this well?
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:15 PM
He was short.......bogus spot
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 05:15 PM
generious spot
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:15 PM
when did KC learn to tackle this well?
:laugh: i dunno. must have been one of those 1 week crash courses.
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:16 PM
TD if Eli had another half second.
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:17 PM
TD if Eli had another half second.
int if the CB didn't jump too early
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:17 PM
TD if Eli had another half second.
Ifs and buts candies and nuts. You guys really don't want to come to fedex with this garbage do you?
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:18 PM
when did KC learn to tackle this well?
there goes the good tackling :doh:
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:18 PM
:doh: there goes the good tackling....
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 05:18 PM
Giants #17 was holding
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:18 PM
Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Omg Tiki Tiki Tiki!!!!!
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:18 PM
My god that was atrocious.
I can't believe the Giants are winning this game.
That is easily the highlight for worst defensive effort of the year.
SlinginSammy HOF '63
December-17th-2005, 05:18 PM
chiefs are tackling very well.
You jinxed them.
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:19 PM
pathetic defense
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 05:19 PM
Holy ****. What a run by barber. But he should have been tackled about 5 times.
dpike619
December-17th-2005, 05:19 PM
There were about 5 places where you could have called holding on that play and the refs missed them all.:doh:
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:19 PM
there goes the good tackling :doh: I'm a jinx hahaha
slinky
December-17th-2005, 05:20 PM
KC is pathetic on that play. regardless of any holding... that was just ugly football...
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:21 PM
I'm a jinx hahaha
Seriously, you are trolling a Redskins site during a Giants game, Why?
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:21 PM
LOL then they show plaxico's hold..........
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:21 PM
agreed poor tackleing by KC but how about tiki effort? 201 pounds of heart right there.
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:21 PM
Hey Simms......Plexiglass was holding....you could see the jersey being yanked off you homer.
macnoke03
December-17th-2005, 05:22 PM
Barber just scored on a long TD thanks to about 7 phantom tackles by the KC bums.
:mad: :mad:
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:22 PM
Its really too bad, they were holding Tiki under 3 yards a carry until that run.
GrimReefa
December-17th-2005, 05:22 PM
There were about 5 places where you could have called holding on that play and the refs missed them all.:doh:
And there were 10 places where a pee-wee player could have made the tackle and the Chiefs missed them all...
dpike619
December-17th-2005, 05:23 PM
God, if that's not the most blatant holding ive ever seen. And the commentators act as if it didn't happen.
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:24 PM
kc's offense needs to stop the bs and score some tds.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 05:24 PM
Yea. That was terrible tackling. Maybe their D will make up for it with an interception next time they get on the field.
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 05:24 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/5d750f0c.jpg
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:24 PM
agreed poor tackleing by KC but how about tiki effort? 201 pounds of heart right there.
I think Tiki is a fantastic player, you won't get any hate here. However, Tiki wasn't actually breaking anything. It was just a ridiculously poor effort. If there's any credit to be given, give it to the Giants who bothered running 20 yards downfield who created the crowd that unintentionally screened some of the Chiefs.
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:25 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/5d750f0c.jpg
:laugh: nice work bubba
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:26 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/5d750f0c.jpg
What can you say? Doesn't get any more clear than that. Oh look at that a flag on the Giants, the refs didn't want to make things to obvious.
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:26 PM
I've stopped complaining 99% of holds, because the calls are completely arbitrary. I watch other games and constantly see what I think is a hold, and nothing gets called. Then 5 minutes later I'll see something totally innocuous get flagged, wiping out a hard earned 30 yard gain. Its so inconsistent, its basically a joke.
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:29 PM
That was a badass blitz pickup. #49 Smacked the rusher right in the chest.
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:29 PM
Ha Ha....a Giants' D lineman got stoned by a runningback
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:29 PM
tony richards saved greens life
FarEastBeast
December-17th-2005, 05:29 PM
Trent Green should still be our QB
slinky
December-17th-2005, 05:29 PM
T-Green, nice run.
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:30 PM
He's so down
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:30 PM
ok here BETTER BE CALLED DOWN!
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:30 PM
No review, big suprise.
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 05:30 PM
He was down by contact. They better review it...
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:31 PM
Wtf Are They Going To Review?!?!?!
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:31 PM
very smart timeout by kc
The Guru
December-17th-2005, 05:31 PM
Looks bad......
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 05:31 PM
Nevermind it was a fumble...
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:31 PM
I stand corrected.....fumble.....Damn
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:31 PM
oh he did fumble. damn
GrimReefa
December-17th-2005, 05:31 PM
crap...he fumbled...
slinky
December-17th-2005, 05:31 PM
WHY THE &*^( doesn't that get an automatic review? and force a TO by KC?
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:32 PM
I feel like I'm watching a Steve Spurrier team. The Chiefs are blowing this big time.
Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin
December-17th-2005, 05:32 PM
Looks like that extra home game had an impact on the the outcome of this season didn't it?
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:32 PM
shame on the replay staff not even to try review the play without kc's help
dpike619
December-17th-2005, 05:32 PM
It was a fumble. No way it gets overturned.
dockeryfan
December-17th-2005, 05:32 PM
Just checking in here.
Does anyone else find Simms to be incredibly biased in his commentary?
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:32 PM
still smart timeout by KC its the littil things that make you a good coach
GrimReefa
December-17th-2005, 05:33 PM
Looks like that extra home game had an impact on the the outcome of this season didn't it?
Well, I think that the Giants would have beaten the Saints if they played on the moon.
But it was still complete BS.
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:33 PM
was a fumble, but also a facemask
The Guru
December-17th-2005, 05:34 PM
At least they gave them the timeout back.
scskin
December-17th-2005, 05:34 PM
Just checking in here.
Does anyone else find Simms to be incredibly biased in his commentary?
Not at all :rolleyes:
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:34 PM
I've stopped complaining 99% of holds, because the calls are completely arbitrary. I watch other games and constantly see what I think is a hold, and nothing gets called. Then 5 minutes later I'll see something totally innocuous get flagged, wiping out a hard earned 30 yard gain. Its so inconsistent, its basically a joke.
I recently had a conversation with a D-I college football official. I asked him about two things. First was PI. He said that they call it any time they see it. He also said that when they look at tapes they see a lot of mistakes they make as to who actually commits the penalty. He said that it is often offensive and it is called as defensive.
The second question I asked was about holding. His word, verbatim where as follows "There is holding on every play in a football game" He said that it if it is far enough away from the play that it doens't make a direct impact they will use discretion. If it is directly related to the play then they will call it every time they see it.
He also said that he believes that many of the NFL officials are not qualified to be doing games and he believed that the college game was officiated at a higher efficiency.
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:34 PM
Just checking in here.
Does anyone else find Simms to be incredibly biased in his commentary?
he generally picks a team and runs with it.
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:34 PM
still smart timeout by KC its the littil things that make you a good coach
Bush League by the officiating crew (upstairs included). Slow on the take. They admitted that by giving them back the timeout.
slinky
December-17th-2005, 05:35 PM
KC's D blows
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:36 PM
nice play #69 :laugh:
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:36 PM
I recently had a conversation with a D-I college football official. I asked him about two things. First was PI. He said that they call it any time they see it. He also said that when they look at tapes they see a lot of mistakes they make as to who actually commits the penalty. He said that it is often offensive and it is called as defensive.
The second question I asked was about holding. His word, verbatim where as follows "There is holding on every play in a football game" He said that it if it is far enough away from the play that it doens't make a direct impact they will use discretion. If it is directly related to the play then they will call it every time they see it.
He also said that he believes that many of the NFL officials are not qualified to be doing games and he believed that the college game was officiated at a higher efficiency.
Good post, interesting perspective.
Leonard Washington
December-17th-2005, 05:38 PM
shank alert!
crap he made it. :mad:
scskin
December-17th-2005, 05:38 PM
Strange things happen in the Meadowlands for some reason.
dockeryfan
December-17th-2005, 05:38 PM
Good thing Eli's passes are off the mark
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:38 PM
Come on Dante, bring it to the house!!
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:39 PM
Bush League by the officiating crew (upstairs included). Slow on the take. They admitted that by giving them back the timeout. yeah it had to be reviewed
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:40 PM
The Giants are so lucky to be leading this game.
I missed the beginning of the game......does anyone know who gets the ball to start the 2nd half?
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:40 PM
Come on KC don't kneel on it. Try a FG.
ArmchairRedskin
December-17th-2005, 05:40 PM
Come on KC. Lets step it up
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:41 PM
Listen to how excited PS is on that replay. He is fan boy. Maybe he should call his son at halftime and tell him to retire.
peckerwood
December-17th-2005, 05:41 PM
kc gets teh ball i believe
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 05:41 PM
wow. kc just...can't get anything done.
skinstzar
December-17th-2005, 05:42 PM
Just punt the ball out of bounds.
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 05:42 PM
yeah kc gets the ball
scruffylookin
December-17th-2005, 05:43 PM
kc gets teh ball i believe
Thank You
peckerwood
December-17th-2005, 05:43 PM
giants d's playing tough today...
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 05:43 PM
these refs are concerned about being fair
JWB
December-17th-2005, 05:46 PM
well, i was a fumble. I hope the chiefs can pick it up for our sakes...
TheGreek1973
December-17th-2005, 05:47 PM
man they are just not in sink. I am very impressed by the Giants D so far.
natem985
December-17th-2005, 05:47 PM
well, we might as well hope for the wildcard given the way KC is playing
Arsenic
December-17th-2005, 05:47 PM
these refs are concerned about being fair
I don't know what Dick was saying to him, but Refs in the NFL should never act like that.
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 05:48 PM
:laugh: :laugh:
Listen to how excited PS is on that replay. He is fan boy. Maybe he should call his son at halftime and tell him to retire.:laugh: :laugh:
skinsmania123
December-17th-2005, 05:48 PM
Yea. I don't know if the D of the Giants looks so good, or the Chiefs just look so sluggish and flat. Maybe that Dallas game took it out of them.
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 05:49 PM
well, we might as well hope for the wildcard given the way KC is playing
I geuss I'd better sell my Giants @ 'Skins tickets now while they still have value, huh?
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 05:53 PM
Just checking in here.
Does anyone else find Simms to be incredibly biased in his commentary?
Yeah, I do. It is pretty annoying.
But I geuss he should be. I mean, I like when Theismann is a homer for us (like he was when we played against the Eagles this year), so I can't complain too much when other guys are homers.
I just hope Troy isn't too much of a homer tommorow. . . :2cents:
GrimReefa
December-17th-2005, 05:54 PM
I geuss I'd better sell my Giants @ 'Skins tickets now while they still have value, huh?
Good idea. I'll give you 20 bucks for 'em.
GrimReefa
December-17th-2005, 05:56 PM
Yeah, I do. It is pretty annoying.
But I geuss he should be. I mean, I like when Theismann is a homer for us (like he was when we played against the Eagles this year), so I can't complain too much when other guys are homers.
I just hope Troy isn't too much of a homer tommorow. . . :2cents:
i'll give Troy his due...he is a hell of a commentator and not biased.
I remember a couple (?) of years ago LaVar got hit with a roughing the passer against Dallas and Troy was in the booth saying it was BS.
He earned my repect big time with that one.
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:56 PM
man they are just not in sink. I am very impressed by the Giants D so far.
I disagree. The Chiefs have no problem moving the ball. They just bogged down at the goal line and had a stupid turnover, not to mention stupid penalties. If you look at the box score, they are moving the ball just fine. 7.7 Y/A for Trent even factoring in those two stupid drops on the screens at the end. Almost 5 yards a carry for Larry (no I wasn't trying to rhyme :) ).
The Chiefs are only down by three, let's see what happens to start the 2nd half.
TheGreek1973
December-17th-2005, 05:56 PM
the bottom line is the chiefs are "only" down by 7 and they have one hell of an offense. They get the ball to start the second half so this one is far from over.
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 05:58 PM
i'll give Troy his due...he is a hell of a commentator and not biased.
I remember a couple (?) of years ago LaVar got hit with a roughing the passer against Dallas and Troy was in the booth saying it was BS.
He earned my repect big time with that one.
Honestly, I feel bad for Troy being stuck with Collinsworth. Every time they do a Skins game, Collinsworth brings up the Lavar hit. I'm a skins fan, and even I thought he was overdoing it long ago, but he continues to mention it. Its not like Troy did anything wrong, he just got cracked really hard. That's not exactly something I'd rub in three times a year.
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 05:59 PM
What a play! Good catch! That is how they have to come out this half.
slinky
December-17th-2005, 05:59 PM
did he just say Damn?
Simmsm88
December-17th-2005, 06:00 PM
did he just say Damn?
hahah I think so.
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 06:01 PM
Since when is pass interference a five yard penalty?;)
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 06:01 PM
Man, if I was the Giants I wouldnt be blitzing. The Chiefs o-line is good enough and experienced enough to pick most of those up. They'd be better off rushing four and relying on Strahan and Usi beating the tackles one on one. Right now they are leaving huge gaps in the secondary, and have gotten pretty lucky (that defensive holding call saved a touchdown).
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 06:03 PM
Td!!!!yea!!!!!!!!!!!!
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 06:03 PM
Tie Game!!!!
slinky
December-17th-2005, 06:03 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSs LJ
The Guru
December-17th-2005, 06:03 PM
Touchdown KC!
GrimReefa
December-17th-2005, 06:03 PM
WOOT! Atta boy Johnson!
I still think he should have won the Heisman...
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 06:03 PM
Touchdown!!
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 06:04 PM
Since when is pass interference a five yard penalty?;)
thought the same thing...
geez how can Simms bragg on the Giants on EVERY SINGLE play... even on the chiefs TD :puke:
santanamoss89
December-17th-2005, 06:04 PM
LJ is unstopabble today...
tsunami001
December-17th-2005, 06:04 PM
now play some freakin' D, chiefs!
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 06:04 PM
All tied up.
One thing is bugging me about LJ though, as good as he is, and as good as the Chiefs' o-line is. When he takes on a DB int he secondary, he has no killer instinct. The great ones like Payton would literally try to knock the crap out of little DBs that tried to tackle him down the field. Even our own Stephen Davis would crack DBs with a nasty stiffarm. LJ needs to get a mean streak, he'd be just that much better.
DButz65
December-17th-2005, 06:05 PM
now play some freakin' D, chiefs!
amen and stop the dumb penalties
GrimReefa
December-17th-2005, 06:05 PM
thought the same thing...
geez how can Simms bragg on the Giants on EVERY SINGLE play... even on the chiefs TD :puke:
The interference was before the throw, that was a legit call.
ArmchairRedskin
December-17th-2005, 06:05 PM
That was some sweet blocking.
Wish we could duplicate that.
dpike619
December-17th-2005, 06:06 PM
Great drive to start the second half. There's no reason they can't do that every time they get the ball.
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 06:06 PM
did he just say Damn?
sure as hell did :laugh:
I like Simms, but he should be barred from calling Giant games... his homerism is embarrassing.
is the Chiefs playing? can't tell by listening to him.
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 06:06 PM
The interference was before the throw, that was a legit call.
no it wasn't the ball was in the air
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 06:07 PM
Good idea. I'll give you 20 bucks for 'em.
On second thought, I think I'll hang on to 'em for a bit longer. The guy on TV just said the Chiefs are good at bouncing back.;)
Arsenic
December-17th-2005, 06:07 PM
All bias aside, Phill Simms has to be the worst announcer involved with the NFL.
bubba9497
December-17th-2005, 06:07 PM
how can Sims complain about the Chiefs holding, when Burress was ripping the jersey off #44
:doh:
Teller
December-17th-2005, 06:07 PM
CHIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 06:08 PM
BTW, here's something wild. Clinton Portis is TWO YEARS younger than Larry Johnson. Of course Clinton has more wear and tear, but still. Our team is younger than most people think at some key spots. Sean Taylor is just a baby (22), Portis is 24, Moss is only 26, Cooley is 23. We just need to get some youth on the d-line and pick up another young corner Yes I know this is off topic. Sue me. :)
slinky
December-17th-2005, 06:08 PM
does anyone cover Tiki from when he is coming out of the backfield
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 06:09 PM
yikes.
:doh:
Zen-like Todd
December-17th-2005, 06:09 PM
Um, that was an incredibly obvious block in the back. Like suuuper obvious. The Chiefs D is horrid, but still, that was super obvious.
slinky
December-17th-2005, 06:09 PM
time for the old Tiki to come back... please fumble
Monte51Coleman
December-17th-2005, 06:10 PM
What a poor tackling team.
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 06:10 PM
BTW, here's something wild. Clinton Portis is TWO YEARS younger than Larry Johnson. Of course Clinton has more wear and tear, but still. Our team is younger than most people think at some key spots. Sean Taylor is just a baby (22), Portis is 24, Moss is only 26, Cooley is 23. We just need to get some youth on the d-line and pick up another young corner Yes I know this is off topic. Sue me. :)
They say that Jason Campbell and Carlose Rogers are pretty good too.
GiantsFanMan
December-17th-2005, 06:11 PM
time for the old Tiki to come back... please fumble we have not seen that tiki in about 3-4 years.
s0crates
December-17th-2005, 06:11 PM
What a poor tackling team.
No kidding. Have they ever had a good defense?
raperry2
December-17th-2005, 06:12 PM
Eli will throw an INT here...
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