roy williams= dirty player

[Eagle091]

he's gonna seriously injure somebody with that horse tavkling crap. you almost lost portis with that one cheap/dirty tackle.

[Dirk Diggler]

He is above the law. He has been ever since he came into the league. And I have no idea why.

[tr1]

They create a rule for his behavior and then don't call it when he keeps doing it...WTF!

[NYFootballGIANTS]

The rule is loopholed so that players can still drag other guys down by the back of their jerseys as long as they don't get the pads. The rule is absolutely pointless until they include jerseys.

The worst part about it is, everytime I see the Cowboys on TV, I ALWAYS see at least one tackle from behind by Roy Williams. He'd think he'd be called for it at least once since the rule is named after him and he still continues to do it. More guys are going to get injured until they fix the stupid rule.

[spjunkies]

This guy is really starting to piss me off and I'm pretty sureit's pissing players around the league off, it would not surprise me to see a few players target him in the future.

[skinsfanxxvi]

when you get burned constantly, you have no choice but to pull the guy down from behind...

Roy Williams = toast

[sith lord]

I started a thread on this same subject months ago. And yes, he's still a dirty player.

[da#1skinsfan]

Never seen anything like him. Even on that run up the middle from Portis, while CP was falling forward, first thing Roy grabs for is his neck. Unbelievable. Whether he grabs shoulder pads or not, taking someone down from the back of their jersey is cheap and dangerous. They need to revise that rule, shoulder pads dont mean a thing.

[BlueTalon]

Well, the shoulder pads DO mean something, as there's less "give". But I agree entirely, the rule needs to be changed to include the jersey. And a 15 yard penalty isn't enough -- it needs to be accompanied by an ejection and a fine.

[tsunami001]

Sucks most for the NFC east...since we have to face that crap 2x a season...

[Lil Kenzo]

when you get burned constantly, you have no choice but to pull the guy down from behind...

Roy Williams = toast

:laugh: Now that's comedy!

[Dweezel]

Next year, lets put Sean Taylor in as a WR matched up against him and see what happens

[Ken]

Geez...You guys act like he is the only one in the league doing this.

Every game, every game I see this.

The one on portis was perfectly legal, BTW.

[Skins11]

Geez...You guys act like he is the only one in the league doing this.

Every game, every game I see this.

The one on portis was perfectly legal, BTW.

Please... every time I see a dallas game he does it. He nearly did it FOUR times today, and it should have been called at least once. I've only seen other players do it in all the football I've watched this year like 3 or 4 times. And I haven't seen anyone on the Skins do it - I don't think Sean has ever done it.

This is the only way Williams tackles it seems. He is dirty.

[LoudMouth12thMan]

Well, the shoulder pads DO mean something, as there's less "give". But I agree entirely, the rule needs to be changed to include the jersey. And a 15 yard penalty isn't enough -- it needs to be accompanied by an ejection and a fine.
Warning! Your' a fraud...your profile says you've been a Skins fan since Riggo, but under the "Not a Skins Fan? Whose Your Team?" column your' a Seahawks fan? :doh: Get outta here!!!!

[WARPATHSKINS]

:D :point2sky Roy will get his 1 day when he get's a pick.Then maybe he will stop the dumb s**t.Go 2 hell roy. GO SKINS:D :dallasuck :eaglesuck :gaintsuck :silly: :rolleyes: :cool:

[dockeryfan]

Warning! Your' a fraud...your profile says you've been a Skins fan since Riggo, but under the "Not a Skins Fan? Whose Your Team?" column your' a Seahawks fan? :doh: Get outta here!!!!
Dude, Blue Talon. The guys name is Blue Talon.
He never hid the fact that he's a Seahawks fan.

[OWUeagleMD]

Dude, Blue Talon. The guys name is Blue Talon.
He never hid the fact that he's a Seahawks fan.

Give him a break. Just like Blue Talon, this guy identfied himself appropriately in his username.

[redphoenix]

roy wiliams=dirty player,and Santanas beyotch

[dockeryfan]

Give him a break. Just like Blue Talon, this guy identfied himself appropriately in his username.
I just read this again and laughed. Again.
Any joke that makes me laugh twice needs a :cheers:

[Arsenic]

I read in an interview somewhere, where Roy said he's been using the horse coller technique since he was a kid, and that he will continue to use it.

Why the NFL makes a rule, and the refs do not call him for it, is beyond me.

[da#1skinsfan]

Geez...You guys act like he is the only one in the league doing this.

Every game, every game I see this.

The one on portis was perfectly legal, BTW.

Youre completely missing the point.

While its legal because he didnt grab the pads, as I said, in terms of the pads defining what is dangerous and what isnt, the pads mean nothing. Its still dangerous to grab someones jersey from the collar and bring him down. Hence the term horseCOLLAR not horseSHOULDERPADS.

Sure, its legal as long as he doesnt grab the pads. That doesnt make him any LESS of a dirty player, because it still causes injuries FREQUENTLY.

[Walking Deadman]

Well, the shoulder pads DO mean something, as there's less "give". But I agree entirely, the rule needs to be changed to include the jersey. And a 15 yard penalty isn't enough -- it needs to be accompanied by an ejection and a fine.

Agreed....what made me really mad in this game was.
1) There were 3 seperate plays where Cowboys (Williams 1 was on the CP play) where it was done.......no calls
2) Yet, Taylor gets a PF early in the game when a Dallas player not giving any indication he's going out of bounds gets tackled as his body starts to go out (ticky-tack call in my op.)
3) Roy 'Toasty McCheap shot' Williams horse-collared CP and he did it RIGHT IN FRONT OF A REF!!!!!!! But no call despite Portis being knocked out of the game briefly.

In truth, I don't care if the rule is on the books or not-- but the NFL comittee put it in the books to prevent injuries like what happened to TO by Williams.
The rule is rather stupid if it's not being enforced. So, either start to enforce the penalty or take it of the books.

[CLBinMD]

Lord knows, I've got NO use for Williams. He's well down the road of the Cliff Harris / Andre Waters career path.....

BUT, I've never agreed with the new rule. I'd call it the TO rule, instead. If Williams had made that tackle on anybody else last season, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Apparently, the refs don't think too much of the new rule, either. I can't recall seeing it called on anyone yet.

Cheers,

CLBinMD

[CowboyinDC]

I don't see how its a dirty play if its not illegal.

He has to grab the shoulder pads and then pull the player towards himself. If the rule were changed I would think that he would stop doing it.

You cant blame a player for making a legal tackle considering it is the best way to get a player down without him getting extra yards falling foward.

Also to the poster that said it was done multiple times, keep in mind that if the tackle is commited within a couple yards of the LOS(in the tackle box) then it doesn't count as a horse collar.

[Jody]

I hate the rule. A tackle is a tackle. In my book the only thing that is off limits is the facemask. Other than that, do what you gotta do to get the ball runner down.

This is a B.S. rule. But on that on that note, you probably won't ever see it being called. This is tackle football.........right?

[Ken]

Lord knows, I've got NO use for Williams. He's well down the road of the Cliff Harris / Andre Waters career path.....

BUT, I've never agreed with the new rule. I'd call it the TO rule, instead. If Williams had made that tackle on anybody else last season, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Apparently, the refs don't think too much of the new rule, either. I can't recall seeing it called on anyone yet.

Cheers,

CLBinMD
Actually he did.

Hurt both of Tyrone Calico's knees and broke Musa Smiths leg.


The problem isn't pulling someone down from their collar, it is landing on their legs with your body weight while doing so.

What do I know though.

I just think it is hillarious that everyone gets so revved up when Roy does it, but I have seen literally 100 of them this season, with not one called.

But Roy is the bad guy.

[Ken]

I hate the rule. A tackle is a tackle. In my book the only thing that is off limits is the facemask. Other than that, do what you gotta do to get the ball runner down.

This is a B.S. rule. But on that on that note, you probably won't ever see it being called. This is tackle football.........right?
Thank you.

Couldn't agree with you more.

It's gosh darn football football, is it not?

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

Warning! Your' a fraud...your profile says you've been a Skins fan since Riggo, but under the "Not a Skins Fan? Whose Your Team?" column your' a Seahawks fan? :doh: Get outta here!!!!
Easy brotha. Blue Talon has never made any bones about being a Seahawks fan and he's one of the good guy visitors of the board. :cheers:

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

bTW, I'm only 2 posts away from getting a Riggo avatar!

[jrockster21]

Geez...You guys act like he is the only one in the league doing this.

Every game, every game I see this.

The one on portis was perfectly legal, BTW.

Dude, whatever. You see that every game because you're a Cowboy fan and you watch the Cowturds every week; of course you always see it. I see it consitently twice a year, when the Skins play the Cowgirls. That's it. No other team in the league does it as consitently. Its not just Roy, either, its the entire Cowturd defense. That LB did it to Santana on his screen-pass.

Roy Williams is a dirty, dirty player. Why doesn't he hit guys instead of dragging them down from behind like a beyatch?? What a douche.

[tiger187126]

The problem isn't pulling someone down from their collar, it is landing on their legs with your body weight while doing so.



exactly

i think that you guys, as dallas fans on this board, should be less worried about defending Williams for horsecollaring and more worried about how many times he has to use it because he's behind the ball carrier

getting burned isnt pretty anyway you slice it, especially against the Skins and especially in your house when you lose because your safety gets burned by the same guy twice

:dallasuck