Is it just me? (Re:Carlos Rogers)

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

:mad: Am I the only one that thinks Carlos Rogers needs to "SUCK IT UP" and get on the field? A bruised/pulled bicep is not sufficient enough to NOT play in a playoff game.

Jansen played with two broken thumbs and the Hogs of yesteryear played with far more "significant" injuries.

Carlos better get over his "boo-boo" and suit up. :mad:

[Tulane Skins Fan]

There were reports that he actually tore his biceps muscle. If that was the case, he wouldve been out for the year. I think its pretty severe

Addendum to this: why the negative thread?

[PleaseGoForTheWin]

dude, his bicep is TORN

[Alldaz]

well being that he is a cornerback and needs both arms to defend, not having the use of a arm is making the situation worse for himself and the team... this is being desperate and we are not desperate.. we are hungry but you do not want to put in an injured man.. you always need the right tools for the job and he is not the proper tool for a cover corner on our defense presently.. a bicep injury HURTS.. but maybe by Saturday he will be ok

[skinsfanno9]

I never want to question a player's character like this unless there's a reason. My guess is Rogers would be in there if at all possible.

[IM A REDSKIN FAN]

Maybe we should rip your biceps to see how you like it....










































j/k....

[Warhead36]

Torn biceps hurt...

[SkinsD]

You have no right to judge Rogers - have you seen any reason why he might not be playing his best? Every time I saw him play I saw him try his best. Regarding Jansen he deserves a ton of credit but a tackle play mostly with his arms not his hands - a corner cannot play with one arm. Perhaps you should consider that maybe, just maybe the trainers know what they are doing.

[SKINZ_DOMIN8]

You have no right to judge Rogers - have you seen any reason why he might not be playing his best? Every time I saw him play I saw him try his best. Regarding Jansen he deserves a ton of credit but a tackle play mostly with his arms not his hands - a corner cannot play with one arm. Perhaps you should consider that maybe, just maybe the trainers know what they are doing.


Actually, yes I do. I am an OLD SKINS fan that remembers Russ Grimm playing with a broken hand, Joe Jacoby playing with just one arm practically due to another injury.


I wouldn't be surprised if little Carlos has a "miraculous" recovery in the middle of this week.

[SkinsD]

Actually, yes I do. I am an OLD SKINS fan that remembers Russ Grimm playing with a broken hand, Joe Jacoby playing with just one arm practically due to another injury.


I wouldn't be surprised if little Carlos has a "miraculous" recovery in the middle of this week.

Read the rest of this thread and see what other fans think, just because you are an "OLD SKINS FAN" you don't get the right to question this kids determination when he has shown no sign of not giving 100%. Besides you didn't even know the extent of his injury - something I would think an "OLD SKINS FAN" would know.

[-mando-]

cb's are stretching for passes and balls all game long, thats gotta hurt with a torn bicep, unless he plans to deflect passes with his helmet

[Califan007]

Actually, yes I do. I am an OLD SKINS fan that remembers Russ Grimm playing with a broken hand, Joe Jacoby playing with just one arm practically due to another injury.


I wouldn't be surprised if little Carlos has a "miraculous" recovery in the middle of this week.
Your ignorance is showing... :doh:

With a torn bicep, I think I read where Rogers isn't even able to lift his arm completely, nonetheless wrap that arm around a speeding running back to make a tackle. It's a helluva lot easier to play on the 0-line with one of your hands in a cast...

[santanamoss89]

He better play Saturday. He has been probable/questionable for the past 3 weeks.

[The Animal Trainer]

Yeah, the bicep is definately torn. Playing with an injury like that would do nothing but hurt the team. I can see Springs trying to play on his injury though, at least I hope he will. Going into the playoffs without both starting corners makes me nervous.

[s0crates]

I expect us to see Carlos Rogers Saturday.

[[[ghost]]]

hopefully its not that serious and he'll be ready for the playoffs.





speakin of which- can you sign free agents in during the playoffs? we are in some serious need of a corner.

[LD0506]

Well I for one am MUCH more comfortable with someone on a message board making this determination than someone irrelevant like.... say the trainers? What do they know?

[The Sir]

Didn't Santana Dotson miss an entire season for us with torn biceps?

[TexasRedskinFan]

It's really hard running at full speed with an injured bicept (not sure if you know this, but you DO use your arms to run). If it were a position other than cornerback, I don't think it'd be THAT big of a deal.

[dmauro1]

The injury is legit..but the question is can his body take the abuse of the NFL. Many talented players like him(out of college)come in and get banged up all the time and never reach their potential because of it. CR worries me

[SittingBull]

Remember Carlos had that injury in preseason and never had the chance to fully condition himself for a full NFL season. Mother Dunn will get him ready for a full season this upcoming offseason.

[alleycat]

This thread is funny....Ya know That WUSS Joe Theisman had the nerve to retire after his sprained leg toooo....

[bedlamVR]

Did Rodgers play last night i seem to rember 24 being out there .

[Mondak]

I hope to see him too but have to agree with the others. It is not like you can throw a finger splint on it or wear a flak-jacket and have it all better. If it is anywhere near TORN it is basically a useless arm. Think about his speed if one arm is not functioning not to mention defend a pass.

[LiveStrongSkins]

By far the most ignorant post of the year. A torn bicept is far more then a boo boo. I guess you dont realize how much you need your arms to accelarate, much less tackle and extend for a ball. Rogers is a tough guy but no guy can just suck up a torn bicept. Picking up a soda can hurts when you have a torn bicept. It amazes me how people can post such idiotic things when they have no clue what they are talking about.

[Truant]

Rogers is #22 and there is no "d" in his name.


Rogers would be out for the year but we didn't put him on IR because we hoped to get him back for the playoffs. Would you like to see Cadillac or Alexander coming around the corner and a DB with one good arm trying to take him down?

He'll be back (a little before) he's ready.

[hercules]

This thread is funny....Ya know That WUSS Joe Theisman had the nerve to retire after his sprained leg toooo....
Yeah, why didn't he just get that leg taped together and "suck it up" for the second half of that game?

That slacker!

[IM A REDSKIN FAN]

Yeah, why didn't he just get that leg taped together and "suck it up" for the second half of that game?

That slacker!




Better yet they should have super-glued his leg back together!

[Joe_328]

Try putting your left hand on your right bicep. Now make some movements with your right arm. If you feel your right bicep move or flex at all, you've just done something that CR has not been doing. Not only is a torn bicep a SERIOUS injury, CR has definately lost a signifigant amount of strength in that arm for sure, it's not like he's been kickin it in the gym doing arm curls trying to get stronger... if anything he's been doing light light light workouts. I would love to see carlos on sat. but even then, he will definately (no matter what) be at 100%, or even 80% at that.

[misery]

any torn muschle injury is very, very painful

[Jake]

Guys, DominH8 is a troll who ventured over from THN. Ignore him.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

Agreed with the last poster.

I've had this dude on ignore for a loooong time. VERY Surprised he's still on the site.

[tiger187126]

how about tackling too, or did you just think that he deflected passes?

[Joey T]

It's just you. Now go live in your own little world.

[jivelikenice]

Foolish thread, every other player I've read about that had a torn bicep was put on IR for the season.

[Rogers22]

He tore his bicep. That means his whole arm is immobile. How can he deflect passes, tackle rb's and wr's when he can't move his arm? I expect him to be out there on Saturday though.

[FedEx_Skinz]

From the NFL section of ESPN

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2278476

Rogers, who has missed three games, is expected to return for Saturday's playoff game at Tampa Bay.

"I'll be ready, no doubt," Rogers said. "If it hurts, it hurts."

[TD Riggo]

He'll be back and now has full range of motion

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/02/AR2006010201638.html

[flasnoles]

Dominh8 wouldn't know about running with a torn bicep. And I don't think you really have to use your arm very much as you are skipping along, singing "Skippity-doo, skippity-do, I'm a worthless Cowboy fudgepacker, too!". But I'll defer to his knowledge of the activities involved in the latter scenario.

[Art McDonough]

Actually, the players don't make the decisions, the training and medical staff does. Players have some input but the final decision is not theirs. I can remember back in the old days you weren't allowed to have any water during practice. Now, it is recognized that lack of hydration can kill you. The staff now "force feeds" liquids. Policies and practices change. I can't imagine a CB today trying to cover a WR with world class speed with a bad wheel. Better to hold him out and let him heal.

[Muzzah]

cb's are stretching for passes and balls all game long, thats gotta hurt with a torn bicep, unless he plans to deflect passes with his helmet

not to mention having to reach out, grab jerseys and tackle...


Oh, and now a days int he NFL, in case you missed it, they have those medical staff people who can force players to sit out. I.E. why you hear that a player went to coach and said he was ready to go in but the training staff said no. (edit: guess the guy above me said the same thing :doh: )

[skinsfan51]

He better play Saturday. He has been probable/questionable for the past 3 weeks.

"I'll be ready--no doubt," Rogers said on Monday
http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=14261

He's in, and that's a good thing. Let's keep it positive, boys, and rally around this team. :point2sky

[Seabee1973]

He said he would like to play even if it did hurt to play. So hopefully he has rested enough

[RYANJOHNXI]

Actually, yes I do. I am an OLD SKINS fan that remembers Russ Grimm playing with a broken hand, Joe Jacoby playing with just one arm practically due to another injury.


I wouldn't be surprised if little Carlos has a "miraculous" recovery in the middle of this week.


maybe good ole' broadway joe theisman could have come back in 85...maybe we coulda gone further....who ever said a compound fracture isnt playable?...he shoulda sucked it up that punk...a leg brkoen 3 places and some bones cutting through the skin is nothing more than a scrape on the knee...













...jerk

[MartinC]

I think you are wide of the mark here - he had a torn bicep not a bruised one and no range of motion.


Reports are that he will be playing Saturday - with Springs out we need him in uniform.

[MartinC]

LOL anybody remember the Monty Python Scetch in The Holy Grail film where the Knight is fighting and getting arms and legs chopped off and everytime he comes back fighting saying 'its just a scratch' etc. Finally he is just a head on a torso bouncing up and down shouting at his opponent 'come back you coward I'll bleed all over you!'

Classic stuff!

[jbooma]

:mad: Am I the only one that thinks Carlos Rogers needs to "SUCK IT UP" and get on the field? A bruised/pulled bicep is not sufficient enough to NOT play in a playoff game.

Jansen played with two broken thumbs and the Hogs of yesteryear played with far more "significant" injuries.

Carlos better get over his "boo-boo" and suit up. :mad:

I see you have no clue about the human body and medicine. If he TORE his bicep that is a season ending injury, not just a "boo-boo" :doh:

[iceman330]

:mad: Am I the only one that thinks Carlos Rogers needs to "SUCK IT UP" and get on the field? A bruised/pulled bicep is not sufficient enough to NOT play in a playoff game.

Jansen played with two broken thumbs and the Hogs of yesteryear played with far more "significant" injuries.

Carlos better get over his "boo-boo" and suit up. :mad:

Well, it's a little different injury than what Jansen had......the casts on Jansens hands helped him in some ways; 1. it forced him to focus on his footwork, 2. a cast hitting the defender's bare arm, rib or arm pit hurts more than the hand alons.

With a torn bicep Carlos will have major problems tackling......Can't wrap with a torn bicep.....and I do not want him to play if he's not going to be able to tackle. But it is a good question though.

[dcoles11]

:mad: Am I the only one that thinks Carlos Rogers needs to "SUCK IT UP" and get on the field? A bruised/pulled bicep is not sufficient enough to NOT play in a playoff game.

Jansen played with two broken thumbs and the Hogs of yesteryear played with far more "significant" injuries.

Carlos better get over his "boo-boo" and suit up. :mad:

I actually tip my cap to him for being mature enough to know that he would only hurt the team by trying to play.

That is something that players never get enough credit for.

Announcers and such always want to glorify a player for playing through an injury, but fail to mention how he is killing the team on the field because he is an absolute liability.

Being a former college baseball player I can tell you that pitchers are the worst when it comes to this.

They talk their way into staying in the game when they know they are out of gas and end up giving up a critial run because they didn't have enough faith in their teamates in the bullpen.

With all the injuries the Skins have in the secondary Rogers would definately play if at all possible. He is odviously seriously hurt and knows he cannot help the team.

[GSF]

Yeah, it's just you...

[adamyesme1111]

:mad: Am I the only one that thinks Carlos Rogers needs to "SUCK IT UP" and get on the field? A bruised/pulled bicep is not sufficient enough to NOT play in a playoff game.

Jansen played with two broken thumbs and the Hogs of yesteryear played with far more "significant" injuries.

Carlos better get over his "boo-boo" and suit up. :mad:

Id like to see you in the nfl playing threw that injury

[redwoody86]

As a piece of Devil's Advocate:

Champ dislocated his shoulder in Week 1, wasn't able to raise his arm very far, and had a sling on underneath his jersey. He sucked it up and played through it, and in fact, got the play of the season for the Broncos, and INT for a TD sparking a comeback, making them 1-1 instead of 2-0.

I've never had a torn bicep so I don't know, and I know that the two injuries are not the same. Maybe the trainers/coaches thought CR would only be effective if they let it heal until the playoffs.

Either way, very glad to have him back. Would you rather have Chrisitan Morton playing? He missed just about all of the tackles that came his way, anyways.

Hope we're as lucky about Springs.