I'm comfortable with Portis but...

[AUviaDC101]

BEFORE READING!!! I AM NOT DENYING PORTIS' GAME!!! THIS IS FOR A POWER BACK BASIS!



I really wish we had a DECENT running back, right now (other than Portis) that would allow us to LEGITIMATELY pursue Edgerin james...

I mean, for the Gibbsian Running Game, Edge would be PERFECT. I know alot of people will disagree, or whatever, but Edge is the type of running back that would turn those 1 and 2 yard gains into 4 and 6 yarders...

He is also a VERY good 3rd and short back as well. he could destroy defenses that fill up the box. But I know that Al will cater the offense to allow Portis to EXPLODE, I just wouldnt mind Edge, or Alexander...

Personal perspective.

Gibbs For Life!!!

[H-O-G]

Yah, Portis was only the 4th leading rusher in the NFL. Sign a new Running back!

[/sarcasm]

[Mooka]

You wanna try and "upgrade" our strongest, deepest position?

[grego]

we are great at RB. portis probably got worn out by seasons end, but still, if randy thomas doesnt go down, the skins may have beaten the hawks. we need depth on the o line, not a new backup.

[AUviaDC101]

I KNOW I KNOW... Portis is a GREAT RB. I am not denying this. However, he is a light weight. He took a BEATING last year, and the year before that. Edge would take that beating in stride. So would Alexander (pre-concussion)...

Besides that, Portis will flourish again under Al's system... It was basically in reference to Edge's STYLE of running...

Gibbs For Life!!!

[airborneskins]

Man, the guy breaks the Redskins Rushing record and he is labeled DECENT ? :doh: Damn, I am glad that I don't play for the Skins.

[darrell1106]

I would disagree w/ that. The colts are deep at OL and that helps James al ot.

[Nighthawk]

I need to start looking at the name of the thread starter before reading these things. I've noticed anytime I open one started by AUviaDC101, all I can think of is :doh:

[Heavy Jumbo]

Portis has been Gibbs best RB ever (from a yardage standpoint)

Portis has done everything asked of him, what makes you think Edge is more of a "Gibbs" type RB?

[AUviaDC101]

I need to start looking at the name of the thread starter before reading these things. I've noticed anytime I open one started by AUviaDC101, all I can think of is :doh:

I can dig that... However... I was referring to Edge's STYLE of running... STYLE...

Not denying Portis's production... I am more concerned as to HOW long he will be able to produce 1300-1700 yards a year.

I mean, during that Seattle game, I saw a VERY hurt Portis.

He's a light weight.

Oh, and YOU CAN SUCK a long one by the way...

Gibbs For Life!!!

[TK]

Oh, and YOU CAN SUCK a long one by the way...

You can take a few days off for comments like that. Go learn some manners over the weekend. We'll see you back in 3 days.

That said, this thread can either get back on topic, or slide off the front page.

[TheDane]

I would disagree w/ that. The colts are deep at OL and that helps James al ot.

I believe this is correct. James benefits from more consistency along his O-Line than Portis does. Even though the Dirtbags were often good, occasionally great, they still inexplicably suffered from bouts of inconsistency at times. I don't know why that is, given the tremendous amount of individual talent each of our linemen have. They played well, but inconsistently, and certainly not as well as the Colts' o-lines.

[Dana87]

Boy if Portis is only DECENT I guess that would make John Riggins, Larry Brown, Stephen Davis, Terry Allen & Ernest Byner guys that were lucky to have a job. Some people are never satisfied. Moss breaks the Redskins Single Season Receiving Record and has a breakout year... but he is not a big play maker. Portis breaks the Redskins Single Season Rushing Record and posts 1500 yards for the 3rd time in 4 years... and he is just a decent back. Brunell has one of his best years and throws for the most TD's in his career, made key plays with his arm and his legs, led us back to the Playoffs... but he should be the back-up. :doh:

[Portis the Tortoise]

I don't think he was calling Portis decent. I think he was admitting that Portis was very good, but that if in fact all we had were a decent RB, we could then go after Edge, who he believes fits Gibbs' offense better than Portis does. He's not saying Portis is a bad back. Just that Edge might be better for this system. You all need to relax.

[Hokie_Skinz]

I believe this is correct. James benefits from more consistency along his O-Line than Portis does. Even though the Dirtbags were often good, occasionally great, they still inexplicably suffered from bouts of inconsistency at times. I don't know why that is, given the tremendous amount of individual talent each of our linemen have. They played well, but inconsistently, and certainly not as well as the Colts' o-lines.

I agree with this. That line keeps Peyton Manning free to do his thing, and usually makes enormous holes for Edge. The Dirtbags are really good now, but i think they still have brain farts back to the Spurrier days from time to time. I don't think Edge would be any better in this system than Portis is. As for Portis' size, he has put on a good bit from last season, and I believe if Betts or Cartwright get more of a role, it can preserver Portis in the longer run.

[#98QBKiller]

BEFORE READING!!! I AM NOT DENYING PORTIS' GAME!!! THIS IS FOR A POWER BACK BASIS!



I really wish we had a DECENT running back, right now (other than Portis) that would allow us to LEGITIMATELY pursue Edgerin james...

I mean, for the Gibbsian Running Game, Edge would be PERFECT. I know alot of people will disagree, or whatever, but Edge is the type of running back that would turn those 1 and 2 yard gains into 4 and 6 yarders...

He is also a VERY good 3rd and short back as well. he could destroy defenses that fill up the box. But I know that Al will cater the offense to allow Portis to EXPLODE, I just wouldnt mind Edge, or Alexander...

Personal perspective.

Gibbs For Life!!!




I wouldn't trade Portis for anything but it would be a good idea to pick up a guy like Alstott (I still hate this man) or the Bus for goal line situations.

But again, it all starts with the O-line. Randy Thomas is fantastic... I hope he stays healthy next year. We could use some upgrading or depth on the O-line though.

[Jumbo]

If the coaches feel a 1-2 yd specialist is something we need that CP may not effectively provide (a contention not at all proven IMO), I expect them to try a guy already on the payroll before adding to that aleady deep position.

Nemo Broughton, to be specific.

[Lil Kenzo]

Porits is a grat back in Gibbs system. Yes there are some backs that would probably fit his system better. But right now, Portis is getting the job done and then some. We worked hard last offseason to get in better shape for Gibbs system and I suspect that he will do the same this season.

[frommd]

BEFORE READING!!! I AM NOT DENYING PORTIS' GAME!!! THIS IS FOR A POWER BACK BASIS!

I really wish we had a DECENT running back, right now (other than Portis) that would allow us to LEGITIMATELY pursue Edgerin james...



Not sure I understand this. You wish we had a "decent" running back. If you don't like Portis, and this "decent" running back were on the team, why would we need Edge?

[ouvan59]

I KNOW I KNOW... Portis is a GREAT RB. I am not denying this. However, he is a light weight. He took a BEATING last year, and the year before that. Edge would take that beating in stride. So would Alexander (pre-concussion)...

Besides that, Portis will flourish again under Al's system... It was basically in reference to Edge's STYLE of running...

Gibbs For Life!!!

How is a back that has averaged missing 3 games a year for the last 5 years more capable of taking the beating in stride? I would take Portis 100 times out of 100. Once Gibbs figured out that Portis isn't an up the gut short yardage back he did great. He scored 11 TDs in the last 11 weeks once we started getting him offtackle on short yardage plays.

[SKiNz Jus 2 sick]

I don't think he was calling Portis decent. I think he was admitting that Portis was very good, but that if in fact all we had were a decent RB, we could then go after Edge, who he believes fits Gibbs' offense better than Portis does. He's not saying Portis is a bad back. Just that Edge might be better for this system. You all need to relax.couldnt have said it better myself

[Henry]

James missed half a season in his third year to injury and took over a year to fully recover from it. After four years, Portis has yet to miss more than 3 games in any one season for any reason. So far, with a lesser supporting cast, Portis has proven to be a more durable and equally productive back than James, not to mention three years younger.

[Ant15fromNJ]

I understand what you mean you want a strong 1 2 punch.

[kwitt]

We should bring in James, great idea. The salary cap implications to arrange this will be minimal I am sure. :doh:

[Inigo Montoya]

Boy if Portis is only DECENT I guess that would make John Riggins, Larry Brown, Stephen Davis, Terry Allen & Ernest Byner guys that were lucky to have a job. Some people are never satisfied. Moss breaks the Redskins Single Season Receiving Record and has a breakout year... but he is not a big play maker. Portis breaks the Redskins Single Season Rushing Record and posts 1500 yards for the 3rd time in 4 years... and he is just a decent back. Brunell has one of his best years and throws for the most TD's in his career, made key plays with his arm and his legs, led us back to the Playoffs... but he should be the back-up. :doh:

Beautifully put. I am almost getting tired of reading here during the offseason. And we still have 7 more months!!!

[Inigo Montoya]

couldnt have said it better myself

Decent is the exact word used to describe our RECORD BREAKING, Franchise RB!!!:(

[waterwagen]

You want a POWER back???? First off, regardless of his size, Portis runs HARD and blocks HARD. Second of all, ESPN.com lists Portis at 5'11" - 212 lbs and Edgerrin James at 6'0" - 214 lbs. Even seeing them on the field they look the same size. You really don't know what you're talking about...

[Fifty Gut]

please, we'd be downgrading the position if we took James over Portis

they are the exact same back, but Portis is faster

check the stats, bruh

[HoyaSkins28]

Portis is younger, faster, and works harder than Edgerrin James. Portis was the 4th leader rusher, Edge was 5th, no way do i take Edge over Portis. And Alexander over Portis, not a chance. Alexander has Walter Jones and Steve Hutchinson, not to mention Locklear and Gray too, he has an allstar o-line and NFC leading QB, I would rather Portis than anyone except Larry J, Ladanian, or Tiki.

[HoyaSkins28]

Boy if Portis is only DECENT I guess that would make John Riggins, Larry Brown, Stephen Davis, Terry Allen & Ernest Byner guys that were lucky to have a job. Some people are never satisfied. Moss breaks the Redskins Single Season Receiving Record and has a breakout year... but he is not a big play maker. Portis breaks the Redskins Single Season Rushing Record and posts 1500 yards for the 3rd time in 4 years... and he is just a decent back. Brunell has one of his best years and throws for the most TD's in his career, made key plays with his arm and his legs, led us back to the Playoffs... but he should be the back-up. :doh:

no one could have said that better. if portis is only decent, than John Riggins was lucky when he broke the 4th & 2 run for a touchdown in the Miami super bowl, Doug Williams was just o.k. in the Denver Super Bowl, and Timmy Smith's record 204 yards in a Super Bowl was because he was a huge pound the ball runner

[mikeyf316]

Signing another big back with those type of skills to split time with Portis may not be a terrible idea, but replacing him is. He's been an amazing contributor with plenty of drive left for many more years.

Getting a RB situation like Denver has would not be bad, but is also not a requirement for us to have a solid rushing game. KC also is looking at splitting time between backs. While this will likely work out great for the team, each player has to be content with being a #2 RB. I am not sure that Portis is ready to step backwards, nor is it necessary.

While Edge might work out just as well, I do not honestly believe he will be better to the point where we would want Portis replaced. I think we're good to go as we are; we just need to use our depth a little more often.

[MLSKINS]

Why? I just do not understand this. Why stop Portis now he is getting used to a different style of running and for the first two years he has been prtetty good. No he has been excellent, but other then his skills Portis a great team player. I do not know what kind of player Edge, I do not wanr him to mess up the chemnisrtry the Skins already has.

[ItaliaMuscle]

Portis 'stlye' has dramatically altered. He has gained weight and he is plowing straight through the defense (sometime just by himself the man is so quick) rather than cutting the sides like he is best known for... Edge has a hell of an offensive line leading him in and a QB that scares defenses to play it back off the line of scrimage. When we enter a game the other team knows that we are going to run the ball and make them eat it. once we get a little more passing options, example another WR to open the feild, portis is going to be given more room to attack with. he will most likely (praying no injury) be in the top three RBs next year! HE IS OUR MAN!

[meetST]

BEFORE READING!!! I AM NOT DENYING PORTIS' GAME!!! THIS IS FOR A POWER BACK BASIS!



I really wish we had a DECENT running back, right now (other than Portis) that would allow us to LEGITIMATELY pursue Edgerin james...

I mean, for the Gibbsian Running Game, Edge would be PERFECT. I know alot of people will disagree, or whatever, but Edge is the type of running back that would turn those 1 and 2 yard gains into 4 and 6 yarders...

He is also a VERY good 3rd and short back as well. he could destroy defenses that fill up the box. But I know that Al will cater the offense to allow Portis to EXPLODE, I just wouldnt mind Edge, or Alexander...

Personal perspective.

Gibbs For Life!!!well I agree that Edge is a great running back...one of the best in the league....but why would we pursue Edge? you do realized if Edge came here he would not be a BACKUP......and doesn't deserve to be a backup....also...I think we're fine with CP and Betts and Rock

[roadkill]

Edge is more of a lightweight than portis is! Edge is older and has had health issues in the past. Plus, he has been playing in a pass-first offensive system and Gibbs' offense is more reliant on the run. Edge is a great running back, but he gets so many yards because he's been part of an amazing offense and teams focus on shutting down receivers, not the run. Portis is one of the toughest runners out there and will run even with his many injuries. Period.

[Darth Tater]

Portis not only broke the Redskins' rushing record, he did so with only 3 monster runs (runs of 25 yards or more) and NONE over 50 and you can count the number of 15-24 yard carries on your hands. He did not break the record by popping a few big runs but by consistently making solid runs. He was a better runner than the opposing defense usually faced at least 15 out of 16 times! He is one of the best blockers at the RB position in the NFL and, while he's not the best receiving RB, how many times has he caught dumpoffs that save our bacon? Right now, his game reminds me of his coach although he's also more of a home-run threat. He was no more beat up than any other prime RB. While one can cry about his performance in the playoffs, TB and Seattle were both great run defenses, Randy Thomas was missing and our passing game was not right.

[CowboySlayer]

BEFORE READING!!! I AM NOT DENYING PORTIS' GAME!!! THIS IS FOR A POWER BACK BASIS!



I really wish we had a DECENT running back, right now (other than Portis) that would allow us to LEGITIMATELY pursue Edgerin james...

I mean, for the Gibbsian Running Game, Edge would be PERFECT. I know alot of people will disagree, or whatever, but Edge is the type of running back that would turn those 1 and 2 yard gains into 4 and 6 yarders...

He is also a VERY good 3rd and short back as well. he could destroy defenses that fill up the box. But I know that Al will cater the offense to allow Portis to EXPLODE, I just wouldnt mind Edge, or Alexander...

Personal perspective.

Gibbs For Life!!!


do you need a brain transplant? edge is old, and portis is better by a longshot anyway

[slik]

ok here goes hope i dont get too bad of a beating. CP is great but i for one am concerned about his longevity. i do forsee him becomming injury prone in the next few years. i love cp but i must admit that i am surprised that he broke the record this year. i think he got of to a slow start and maybe it just took time to adjust but that concerns me about his consistency. i hope i am wrong but those are just my thoughts

[SlinginSammy HOF '63]

This thread was like a trainwreck. I knew before I looked it would be ugly but I couldn't resist.

[Karlton79]

Just can't agree with that. Portis is the best back we've had in a LONG time. We've had some good ones, but not like Portis. Portis all the way!

[wahoos911]

did you say alexander is more durable than portis???

you do understand alexander never gets hit

he either runs out of bounds, or cuts back and scores without being touched against the niners, or rams, or cardinals....take ur pick

[bleach14]

one of the single dumbest threads ive ever read, i mean portis does not fit this system at all right?? he only broke the redskins single season rushing record but yeah lets go sign another back..keep these dumb thoughts to yourself dont post em on the net so we can all see them and laugh at you

[adamyesme1111]

No one is reading the thread right and then posting stupid replies

[Karlton79]

No one is reading the thread right and then posting stupid repliesSo, you believe James is more of a power runner than Portis? I couldn't say I agree with that.