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roadkill
February-11th-2006, 08:32 PM
Lots of people have been mad at the officials during this last season, but it's not entirely their fault, it's the stupid wording of some of the rules. So what rule would you revise? I would revise the stupid ball possesion rule. What the **** is a "football move" anyway?

HailSkinz1
February-11th-2006, 08:46 PM
I agree with that. Also....

That rule that says a WR or TE cannot cover the Tackle or whatever....basically, you can't have too many (too few??) men on the line of scrimmage on offense.

The rule that says two guys can't be in motion unless they are set for one second (yeah, they really time that!).

Too many downfield on a punt - once the ball is snapped, everyone should be able to go downfield. I don't think punts have gotten that much more exciting since that rule was put in.

I would like to see the college rule on first downs be implemented in the NFL...clock stops to move the chains. Less mindless rushing around with stupid penalties.

That's just off the top of my head on a Saturday night....I'm sure there are more!

Hail,

H

wbar3383
February-11th-2006, 08:51 PM
Tuck rule.

SlinginSammy HOF '63
February-11th-2006, 08:54 PM
agreed. Tuck must go.

jer_sey_skins_fan
February-11th-2006, 08:55 PM
The "pile on" rule on FG / PAT

skinthemboys
February-11th-2006, 08:57 PM
Tuck rule.

I agree. It has to be the dumbest rule out there. It basically allows the QB to fumble, only, its not a fumble :whoknows:

edgun88
February-11th-2006, 09:06 PM
only 1 person can celebrate after a TD if more people celebrate then it is a 15 yard penalty on the kickoff.

chaught76
February-11th-2006, 09:11 PM
Leading with the Helmet

I mean come on, its a contact sport. I was always taught to keep my head up and put my nose on the ball. This rule needs evaluated more closely. Most helmet to helmet contact is incidental. For real, unless a defender or any player for that matter blatently takes unnecessary ear hole shot at another player, it is a bum call.

brandies
February-11th-2006, 09:13 PM
I get paid big money to figure this out in the law. I mean literally, I would have to read every rule out there.

RDSKNFN_48
February-11th-2006, 09:16 PM
Obviously...HORSECOLLAR....Why implement a rule if you never call it?

ChampSkinsFanatic
February-11th-2006, 09:41 PM
Theres alot of rules that need to be changed, but we all agree the NFL needs rules, have we forgot the XFL...

skinz1972
February-11th-2006, 09:44 PM
Leading with the Helmet

I mean come on, its a contact sport. I was always taught to keep my head up and put my nose on the ball. This rule needs evaluated more closely. Most helmet to helmet contact is incidental. For real, unless a defender or any player for that matter blatently takes unnecessary ear hole shot at another player, it is a bum call.helmet 2 helmet can paralyze or kill you,so why take that chance? they all got families to go home to you know.

ejay183
February-11th-2006, 09:49 PM
The Tuck Rule, basically when a QB fumbles the refs can decide whatever they want.

kreitmaster
February-11th-2006, 10:11 PM
My vote: the tuck rule. If the QB is trying to tuck the ball, it should be a fumble. Period.

skinman574
February-11th-2006, 10:14 PM
Tuck Rule, its really dumb, and it cost us a win in Denver

Aluadan
February-11th-2006, 10:16 PM
Tuck Rule for me as well, just a horrible rule that really doesn't make any sense considering a QB can 'throw' the ball behind him which would be a lateral ie a fumble yet it's still ruled an incomplete pass.

As for helmet to helmet, it's also there to try to prevent concussions. I know from experience that if you try to lead on contact too often with the crown of the helmet you really run the risk of some form of head injury. I was a smaller guy and liked to go head-to-head with bigger guys to stand them up but man, it really takes it toll after a while. Nothing like getting sharp migraine headaches all week long.

REEGSKINS
February-11th-2006, 10:20 PM
the micheal vick td -crossing the goal line (out of bounds) rule.

Phixius
February-11th-2006, 10:21 PM
I agree. It has to be the dumbest rule out there. It basically allows the QB to fumble, only, its not a fumble :whoknows:

Dont like it. It cause the Skins a loss at Denver over that stupid rule.

adarsh1
February-11th-2006, 10:36 PM
the illegal formation

kevinklein
February-11th-2006, 10:41 PM
Tuck rule, without a doubt.

LA56Dawg
February-11th-2006, 10:42 PM
tripping..,. most of the time, that i've seen, is not done on purpose.. it just happens

spm
February-11th-2006, 10:58 PM
Tuck rule is up there. I've seen that blocking below the waist call in the Super Bowl called a few times and that one is silly too. I would do away with it when called against the team trying to tackle the ballcarrier. It's ridiculous.

jimster
February-11th-2006, 11:02 PM
The fact that any play can't be challenged, and that the ref that made the call does the replay.

- Have 2 extra guys in the booth that are watching the game. - they see something that doesn't look right, buzz the ref and tell him to hold on a second and take a quick look and don't turn it into a 5 minute production or an excuse to show more commercials on TV.

Mooka
February-11th-2006, 11:03 PM
Definently tuck rule. If they won't take it out completely, at least change the rule if no one touches the QB.

Cmon, if the QB isn't hit and loses it himself, its a damn fumble.

SonnyJ
February-11th-2006, 11:57 PM
Definently tuck rule. If they won't take it out completely, at least change the rule if no one touches the QB.

Cmon, if the QB isn't hit and loses it himself, its a damn fumble.

Or, as was pointed out, if the ball doesn't ACTUALLY travel forward, that it is a fumble. The same should be true if the QB gets hit as he throws and the ball doesn't go forward.

Park City Skins
February-12th-2006, 12:14 AM
The "Dave Casper" rule.

Fergasun
February-12th-2006, 12:26 AM
Or, as was pointed out, if the ball doesn't ACTUALLY travel forward, that it is a fumble. The same should be true if the QB gets hit as he throws and the ball doesn't go forward.

Bingo, bango, bongo! When Oakland got screwed I didn't pay much attention. It's not exactly the "Tuck Rule" but the definition of a "forward pass" that is a problem. If the QBs arm starts to go forward, no matter what happens to the ball (even if it goes sideways or backwards) it is ruled a pass.

Not only did we see this first hand in Denver, but also in Seattle. There was a helter-skelter Hasselbeck play where he made forward motion with his arm, and threw the ball behind him, picked it up and widly threw it up for grabs.

Another play like this is the one of the "I'm Jeremy Shockey, and I'm not going to chase after a live ball" plays. The Giants were facing the Vikings, and Manning was hit as he was throwing the ball and it ended up going backward. Shockey started to chase after, than stopped... and the Vikings picked it up. The play was reveresed because Mannings arm started to go foward when he was hit.

Stupid stupid stupid!

nhat8121
February-12th-2006, 12:37 AM
the "within 2 mins, reviews go to upstairs" rule is moronic

who are those bastards upstairs working for anyway? how do they decide which one to review and which one to let go? coin flip?

The_U
February-12th-2006, 01:00 AM
Agree with the tuck rule. Like someone said, a QB can throw the ball backwards and its considered a fumble if its not caught, BUT if they use the tuck rule call, its incomplete no matter if it goes backwards or not LIKE F'N JAKE PLUMMER DID!!!!!!!



And i dont think that illegal contact should be an automatic 1st down. I mean, team facing 3rd & 20, QB throws an incomplete pass down the sideline to a WR, but illegal contact is called nowhere near the play on a LB bumping a TE 6 yards beyond the line rather than 5. Fine, throw the flag, but not an automatic 1st down. 5 yards and replay the down.

Heavy Jumbo
February-12th-2006, 01:07 AM
The fact that any play can't be challenged, and that the ref that made the call does the replay.

- Have 2 extra guys in the booth that are watching the game. - they see something that doesn't look right, buzz the ref and tell him to hold on a second and take a quick look and don't turn it into a 5 minute production or an excuse to show more commercials on TV.

And to add something to that, have a "neutral" replay ref who's only job is to check out replays as they come up. That takes away the possibility of the ref who made the bad call in the first place being given the responsibility to then overturn "his" bad call.

CooleyNaMean
February-12th-2006, 01:37 AM
I think someone else mentioned it but leaping on FG attempts.

[[ghost]]
February-12th-2006, 01:45 AM
the tuck rule. stupid retarded thing.

In Flames
February-12th-2006, 02:09 AM
it would have to be both feet inbounds, they should do like college ball, one foot down, and your inbounds.

a_good_brotha
February-12th-2006, 05:04 AM
The tuck rule by far is the dumbest. Ranking right up there is the fact that the refs can call a penalty they missed if they see it on replay. I'm not sure it's a rule, but it's happened to the Redskins on a couple of occasions.

ChiefPowhatan17
February-12th-2006, 05:56 AM
The Tuck rule, it's not a throw, but a throw that has been tucked so it can't be a fumble. Totally stupid.:helmet:

chaught76
February-12th-2006, 06:51 AM
helmet 2 helmet can paralyze or kill you,so why take that chance? they all got families to go home to you know.

I wasn't meaning it was a stupid rule. Read what I wrote again. I was trying to get across my disgust on the frequency of the call. Most of the time when this call is made, it is incidental. That what I think is stupid. When a DB is going for the ball and accidentally crashes head with the other player, it is an automatic flag. Like I said, if someone leads with their helmet and its fairly clear it was intentional, then fine throw the flag. All I am suggesting is a little more common sense when it comes to this kind of call.

desertfox59
February-12th-2006, 07:02 AM
I wasn't meaning it was a stupid rule. Read what I wrote again. I was trying to get across my disgust on the frequency of the call. Most of the time when this call is made, it is incidental. That what I think is stupid. When a DB is going for the ball and accidentally crashes head with the other player, it is an automatic flag. Like I said, if someone leads with their helmet and its fairly clear it was intentional, then fine throw the flag. All I am suggesting is a little more common sense when it comes to this kind of call.

No need to apologize...you're absolutely right...This is football not a garden party. I totally agree with you about the helmet rule...First off there is already a rule for using your helmet intentinally to try to hurt another player, its called spearing and it's been around forever...so why the new rule...it's just so the refs have options ....now they can use the "leading with the helmet" call to make up for the other crap they missed.

I think they could also get rid of the ruffing the passer rule....just a stupid rule..overcalled and against the spirit of the game.

Paydirt
February-12th-2006, 08:01 AM
the "within 2 mins, reviews go to upstairs" rule is moronic

who are those bastards upstairs working for anyway? how do they decide which one to review and which one to let go? coin flip?

You've got a point. However, if you let the teams continue to throw the flag, I guess they could do it just to stop the clock. On the other hand, they've only got so many challenges, and then they're out. But, it would be used to stop the clock, which would lengthen the game and increase the commercials.

Maybe the NFL should just hire an extra ref and put him under the booth on the sidelines for the whole game to do nothing but review plays.

TriangleSkinsFan
February-12th-2006, 08:03 AM
Isn't there a rule that an offensive fumble that goes out the back of the end zone is then ruled a touchback and the team that was on defense during the play gets the ball on thier own 20. That seems like the dumbest rule. I can't remember when/who I saw it but it was sometime this year.

Paydirt
February-12th-2006, 08:04 AM
Lots of people have been mad at the officials during this last season, but it's not entirely their fault, it's the stupid wording of some of the rules. So what rule would you revise? I would revise the stupid ball possesion rule. What the **** is a "football move" anyway?

I think it was different in the old days. Back then men were men, football was football, and a catch was a catch. If you caught the ball and planted your feet, it was a catch.

FightForOldDC21
February-12th-2006, 08:04 AM
the tuck rule for sure

Paydirt
February-12th-2006, 08:06 AM
I'm surprised no one mentioned the quarterback slide rule. Now, I can understand trying to have rules to protect the quarterback in the pocket when he is looking downfield and his legs are vulnerable. But, come on. When he starts downfield, he's open season. That's the way it was in the old days when men were really men.

jer_sey_skins_fan
February-12th-2006, 08:14 AM
I also think 10 yards is a little much for holding, there should be a degree of holidng like the face mask rule.

How many times have we had drives stalled at 3rd & 1 because of a hold AWAY from the play - those cases, the penalty should be a 5 yard variety.

Redsk58417
February-12th-2006, 08:18 AM
The "Tuck rule" is by faaar the most annoying. It literally cost teams games. That rule must go.

wysknz1
February-12th-2006, 08:19 AM
I was just reading through these posts thinking about the QB slide rule and you beat me to it..... but that and the tuck. I also don't like the hit when going out of bounds. I'll never forget Elway running out of bounds once so the defender let up and Elway took it up field for another 10 yards or so. Later in the game, same senario except the defender nailed him....15 yards...as long as they're in bounds the should be like any other player.

CowboySlayer
February-12th-2006, 10:36 AM
without a doubt, the tuck rule is THE WORST RULE IN HISTORY in any sport. also, one that needs to be either done away with or completely restructured, is holding. more often than not, when it is called, it's not holding. In addition, do away with the pile-on rule for kicks, it's stupid. And last but not least, I strongly believe they should not be able to penalize a team 15 yards for celebrating a TD, it's rdiculous.

ArmchairRedskin
February-12th-2006, 11:07 AM
I'm surprised no one mentioned the quarterback slide rule. Now, I can understand trying to have rules to protect the quarterback in the pocket when he is looking downfield and his legs are vulnerable. But, come on. When he starts downfield, he's open season. That's the way it was in the old days when men were really men.



Yeah, and guys like Aikman and Young got one concussion after another. I think that's a good rule. Last thing the NFL needs is a star quarterback getting knocked in the head enough to where it does some permanent damage. That would be a public relations nightmare.

skinfan13
February-12th-2006, 11:50 AM
that f***in tuck rule is so imposible to understand even the refs can't make it out! its the worst rule in the book by far

Metalhead
February-12th-2006, 12:11 PM
1. Tuck Rule

2. Under 2 minute booth review - why do they get to decide what to review? Conspiracies abound...

wysknz1
February-12th-2006, 03:59 PM
Yeah, and guys like Aikman and Young got one concussion after another. I think that's a good rule. Last thing the NFL needs is a star quarterback getting knocked in the head enough to where it does some permanent damage. That would be a public relations nightmare.

How do RB's do it then??

Hansenbj
February-12th-2006, 04:04 PM
The way they do overtime is the stupiest rule. It should go to the college format.

akorn22
February-12th-2006, 04:19 PM
the dumest rule is the "too long of a return" penalty. That penalty is when the refs call a penalty every time someone has a good punt/kickoff return

ArmchairRedskin
February-12th-2006, 04:22 PM
How do RB's do it then??



RB's are built different. They're runners by trade so they usually know how to either avoid hits or how to take a hit. QB's wear different equipment, have different body types, and are typically not the best runners. There's a pretty big difference between the two postions.

EnFoRcEr_uPu
February-12th-2006, 04:23 PM
Tuck rule.

What he said.

terpfan
February-12th-2006, 04:24 PM
Most confusing = tuck rule
Stupidest = Sudden death OT

81tothehall
February-12th-2006, 04:58 PM
tuck rule, do we have somebody on the competition committee?

dent19
February-12th-2006, 05:15 PM
Lots of people have been mad at the officials during this last season, but it's not entirely their fault, it's the stupid wording of some of the rules. So what rule would you revise? I would revise the stupid ball possesion rule. What the **** is a "football move" anyway?

also the superbowl catch where i think Robinson got 1 foot down then kicked the pylon with the other. Why did they have to review it. i thought 2 feet made a catch. Not 1 and the pylon.
Also Bucs Skins game. If anyone catches the ball 1 foot and a knee, complete except for endzone where feet, knee, butt, elbow means nothing if the ball comes out when you get hit or hit the ground....( you dont know how many times my wife has to ask me what a catch is) :doh:

sknsrbck26
February-12th-2006, 09:40 PM
The most stupid rule is only contact within 3-5 yards something like that. TOO MANY Defensive pass interfernce calls that are complete B.S. let the boys play!!!

NOVA2Tampa
February-12th-2006, 09:41 PM
Obviously...HORSECOLLAR....Why implement a rule if you never call it?

Yup...

Peregrine
February-12th-2006, 10:31 PM
The problem isnt the officials, the problem is the Director of Officiating, Mike Piearearearasr or whatever hsi name is. The guy is a moron and ever since he became the director, a couple years ago the officiating went to crap. I noticed it 2 years ago and wondered for a long time why the officiating went downhill in ALL NFL games, which seemed odd. When I saw him and heard his excuses for certain bad calls I realized, hes the one at fault. He needs to go.

And worst rule goes to cannot review down on contact plays. Dumbest rule ever. So if its ruled a fumble we can review it to see if his knee hits the ground first, but if its ruled down, we cant review it TO SEE IF HIS KNEE HITS DOWN FIRST. You are doing the exact same thing either way.

aszumilo
February-12th-2006, 10:39 PM
Intentional grounding/spiking the ball. What really is the difference? When a QB spikes the ball he is inside the tackles. Isn't that intentional grounding? I believe it is more intentional, since the QB knows before the snap he is going to spike it. And if he throws the ball away it is intentional grounding. This is basically the same thing and has always puzzled me.

fight_on_til_you_have_won
February-12th-2006, 10:41 PM
Tuck rule. Hands down. It's rules like this that hurt the NFL's credibility.

fight_on_til_you_have_won
February-12th-2006, 10:45 PM
And worst rule goes to cannot review down on contact plays. Dumbest rule ever. So if its ruled a fumble we can review it to see if his knee hits the ground first, but if its ruled down, we cant review it TO SEE IF HIS KNEE HITS DOWN FIRST. You are doing the exact same thing either way.

No, you're not doing the same thing. If the play is ruled a fumble on the field, if the replay reveals a mistake and the runner was down, they can bring the ball back. But if the play is ruled down by contact and replay reveals a fumble, then what? Reposition all the players where they were when the fumble occurred? It's not possible. There's no remedy in the case of a mistake, so there's no purpose in reviewing the play in the first place.

skinfan13
February-12th-2006, 10:59 PM
The way they do overtime is the stupiest rule. It should go to the college format. just your opinion, if it were up to me there would be no overtime, i like ties actually, and i think it would be better to end a game on a tie rather than overtime, makes the teams try harder to win in the fourth quarter

Rogers22
February-13th-2006, 05:20 AM
Tuck Rule. The qb has the ball, He tries to protect it but still fumbles, and it's not a fumble? What kind of rule is that?

Karlton79
February-13th-2006, 06:07 AM
Obviously...HORSECOLLAR....Why implement a rule if you never call it?Most of the time players grab the jersey and it looks like a horsecollar, but isn't. In order to be a horsecollar, they have to grab the pads to bring the other player down. Roy Williams is REALLY good at grabbing the jersey, so he never gets called for a horsecollar. That's what hurt Portis the last game we played them. I was PISSED! But..I guess a rule is a rule. The pads I can understand, but it'd be hard to make a rule not to grab the jersey there.

stwasm
February-13th-2006, 06:18 AM
How about the infamous tuck rule? That definitely should be abolished!

Sherlock Holmes
February-13th-2006, 06:27 AM
it would have to be both feet inbounds, they should do like college ball, one foot down, and your inbounds.

im not sure...i mean you would have thought they would have given the TD to monk because his HEEL was down agianst buffalo...maybe they should have given Monk the benefit of the doubt.

Art McDonough
February-13th-2006, 07:16 AM
Question: Do players have any input into rule reviews and modifications? If they don't, they should. Who would better know what rules are dumb, unnessary, or inconsistently enforced?

Aberdeenredskin
February-13th-2006, 07:25 AM
Its not a rule but the name "touch down" when you dont have to touch the ball down just be in posession over the line in rugby to score a try you actually have to put the ball to the ground "with downward preasure".

Sherlock Holmes
February-13th-2006, 07:47 AM
Its not a rule but the name "touch down" when you dont have to touch the ball down just be in posession over the line in rugby to score a try you actually have to put the ball to the ground "with downward preasure".

ive often wondered about that..

Larry Gude
February-13th-2006, 08:38 AM
Lots of people have been mad at the officials during this last season, but it's not entirely their fault, it's the stupid wording of some of the rules. So what rule would you revise? I would revise the stupid ball possesion rule. What the **** is a "football move" anyway?


Stupidest: Tuck rule

Most confusing: what is or is not a catch

gdswll
February-13th-2006, 08:51 AM
Tuck rule.

Can some one explain the tuck rule to me, I understand most rules and why they are put in, but with the tuck rule I am completely at a loss. Any help please.

Larry Gude
February-13th-2006, 10:05 AM
The tuck rule says that if the QB is in the act of throwing a pass but them changes his mind, wants to stop from throwing the ball, he is allowed the opportunity to put away the ball, to tuck the ball, as though the ball were actually in the air and thus the ball is not live if he drops it or it is knocked out in the process of tucking it IF it hits the ground.

Once he has tucked the ball and THEN makes another football move, runs, tries again to pass the ball, THEN the ball is live again if he were to fumble it.

IF a defender knocks the ball loose while he is tucking it AND gains possession of the ball before it hits the ground it is a turnover. I think it would be scored as an INT.

Now, there are two titanic flaws in this rule;

1. If he is tucking it and the ball is being considered as though it were in flight then he cannot complete a forward pass to himself.

2. QB's get mauled when the ball comes loose as the big guys scramble like mad to get to what is, to them, a fumble. This should be an unnecessary roughing call just like if a pass is incomplete down field and the defenders were to pummel the WR and treat the ball as still live.

The idea behind the rule is to save the refs from having to rule, if the ball were to come loose in the act of tucking or changing your mind about passing, on whether or not it was simply a forward pass and thus incomplete, or not.

The problem arises in when is he no longer in the act of throwing and therefore simply an incomplete pass if he were to lose it and when is he a live ball carrier again.

The two famous ones, Tom Brady v.s Raiders in the snow and us against Denver this year, well, to me, clearly, in both cases, the Qb had fully transitioned away from a forward movement of the arm and into a clear intention to tuck the ball and thus, to me, fumble!


Perfectly clear, huh?

budski
February-13th-2006, 11:30 AM
roughing the passer, facemask, clipping, and no more fair catches.

Butz65
February-13th-2006, 12:34 PM
And to add something to that, have a "neutral" replay ref who's only job is to check out replays as they come up. That takes away the possibility of the ref who made the bad call in the first place being given the responsibility to then overturn "his" bad call.

I think they should move to a 3 man team on all challenged calls. All three (ref on the field - two upstairs) vote independently. Best 2 ot of 3 wins. Takes some of the pressure off the ref and would reduce the number of mistakes.

Inigo Montoya
February-13th-2006, 12:35 PM
TUCK RULE!!! It's crap!

f_trizzy
February-13th-2006, 12:52 PM
what about the fact that a RB can ground a pass. The only time I ever saw this happen was in a GB game last year (might have been a Sunday or Monday night game). Gado took a hand off got hit in his own endzone and he threw the ball forward as he was being tackled. The refs ruled that since he was behind the line of scrimmage, outside the tackles, and got the pass to the line of scrimmage it was an incomplete pass instead of a safety. Conversely, if this is allowed then I think more RBs should do this. If you take a toss or a reverse hand off and you see you are bottled up in the backfield, throw it away and save the yardage.

gdswll
February-13th-2006, 01:09 PM
The tuck rule says that if the QB is in the act of throwing a pass but them changes his mind, wants to stop from throwing the ball, he is allowed the opportunity to put away the ball, to tuck the ball, as though the ball were actually in the air and thus the ball is not live if he drops it or it is knocked out in the process of tucking it IF it hits the ground.

Once he has tucked the ball and THEN makes another football move, runs, tries again to pass the ball, THEN the ball is live again if he were to fumble it.

IF a defender knocks the ball loose while he is tucking it AND gains possession of the ball before it hits the ground it is a turnover. I think it would be scored as an INT.

Now, there are two titanic flaws in this rule;

1. If he is tucking it and the ball is being considered as though it were in flight then he cannot complete a forward pass to himself.

2. QB's get mauled when the ball comes loose as the big guys scramble like mad to get to what is, to them, a fumble. This should be an unnecessary roughing call just like if a pass is incomplete down field and the defenders were to pummel the WR and treat the ball as still live.

The idea behind the rule is to save the refs from having to rule, if the ball were to come loose in the act of tucking or changing your mind about passing, on whether or not it was simply a forward pass and thus incomplete, or not.

The problem arises in when is he no longer in the act of throwing and therefore simply an incomplete pass if he were to lose it and when is he a live ball carrier again.

The two famous ones, Tom Brady v.s Raiders in the snow and us against Denver this year, well, to me, clearly, in both cases, the Qb had fully transitioned away from a forward movement of the arm and into a clear intention to tuck the ball and thus, to me, fumble!


Perfectly clear, huh?

oh that is such a good rule to have :rolleyes:, Thanks for the insight.

Larry Gude
February-13th-2006, 01:23 PM
Most of the time players grab the jersey and it looks like a horsecollar, but isn't. In order to be a horsecollar, they have to grab the pads to bring the other player down. Roy Williams is REALLY good at grabbing the jersey, so he never gets called for a horsecollar. That's what hurt Portis the last game we played them. I was PISSED! But..I guess a rule is a rule. The pads I can understand, but it'd be hard to make a rule not to grab the jersey there.


Good one there to. Guys should be allowed to wear spikes inside their collar to discourage this. Just about EVERY time a guy gets dragged down by his collar from behind, he gets up hurt or injured.

thomasroane
February-13th-2006, 01:40 PM
Can't believe you guys missed the most important one of all!!


Can't date one of the hot cheerleaders if you're a player

That one really has to suck. Sure, the money is important. But dating one of the cheerleaders goes back to little league and why we all started playing Football to begin with. To get chicks ;p

Larry Gude
February-13th-2006, 01:51 PM
Can't believe you guys missed the most important one of all!!



That one really has to suck. Sure, the money is important. But dating one of the cheerleaders goes back to little league and why we all started playing Football to begin with. To get chicks ;p


That's a team rule I'm pretty sure.

goflyhelo
February-13th-2006, 02:10 PM
The infamous "the play is not reviewable"....in my opinion, all plays should be reviewable!


And like everyone, the tuck rule sucks!

GO SKINS! :logo:

goflyhelo
February-13th-2006, 02:16 PM
Actually in my opinion, any rule that goes against the SKINS is a very DUMB rule! :thumbsup:

Alvin Walton's Mohawk
February-13th-2006, 06:35 PM
The problem isnt the officials, the problem is the Director of Officiating, Mike Piearearearasr or whatever hsi name is. The guy is a moron and ever since he became the director, a couple years ago the officiating went to crap. I noticed it 2 years ago and wondered for a long time why the officiating went downhill in ALL NFL games, which seemed odd. When I saw him and heard his excuses for certain bad calls I realized, hes the one at fault. He needs to go.


:applause: Wow. I'm impressed that a casual observer would recognize this.... First of all- I think the officials are getting a bad rap.... The fact is that they get most of these calls correct. The Super Bowl calls were all correct except for the call on Hasselbeck. The media just hammers home to everyone that the refs are wrong so that they have something to talk about....

That being said- Ever since Pereira came in he has redefined long-standing rules, muddled definitions, and come up with all of this "football-like move" crapola that we are constantly hearing about.... Long-time officials are now thinking about calls that they used to make instinctively. Pereira has made things entirely too difficult for the men on the field- redefining things as simple as "a catch" after all of these years has caused refs to stop and think about what they are "supposed to call" instead of what they see right in front of their faces. Heck- these guys are even over-thinking what they see on replays because of the way that Pereira has screwed with their heads....

It is always amusing to see him try to explain away blatant bad calls on the "Official Review" on NFL Total Access on the NFL Network. He makes up interpretations as he goes along and Rich Eisen just shakes his head at the absurdity of it all....

scottie
February-13th-2006, 06:40 PM
Looks like the dreaded Tuck Rule is getting most of the votes, and I completely agree.

Alvin Walton's Mohawk
February-13th-2006, 06:41 PM
Oh-


By the way. The dumbest rule is the whole "Uniform Violation" thing. The fact that they have "uniform police" that walk around during warm-ups and assess fines is totally ridiculous. I was so glad when Portis and Taylor thumbed their noses at the whole ridiculous rule- even if it did cost them thousands of dollars....

College football is so much more colorful because the kids don't look like clones out there on the field. The NFL wants it's players to look "neat"- but come on- it's football. Is it really that important that players have their socks pulled up? I liked it so much better when there were no restrictions on towels and the like. Remember how cool Hanford Dixon and Frank Minniefield were with those long towels?

My two cents. I'm all for players having the same color shoes and stuff- but the league ahs taken this whole thing too far- just like they do with everything else.

No fun!

Bangee7
February-13th-2006, 10:45 PM
the micheal vick td -crossing the goal line (out of bounds) rule.


Ding, Ding !!


It's called a Touch Down...
like touch something down on the other side of the line.

I also agree these should be thrown out:
Tuck Rule
Illegal formation
and the infamous..."Football Move"
that's a little subjective, eh?

Heavy Jumbo
February-13th-2006, 11:15 PM
the dumest rule is the "too long of a return" penalty. That penalty is when the refs call a penalty every time someone has a good punt/kickoff return

You mean when the return team holds or blocks someone in the back? I think the refs usually get these calls right.

Titaw
February-14th-2006, 01:15 AM
My personal least favorite call is holding, this TECHNICALLY could be called on every play. It is only used when it is obvious or as a drive stopper. I believe it should be only in isntance where the blocker tackles or almost tears the jersey off of someone. This has to be the MOST inconsistant call!

kom526
February-14th-2006, 01:30 AM
The tuck sucks nuff said.

philal0102
February-14th-2006, 01:56 AM
Obviously...HORSECOLLAR....Why implement a rule if you never call it?

i would agree with that.

FedExFielder
February-14th-2006, 10:57 AM
Roughing the Center...no joke

jambro
February-14th-2006, 07:37 PM
The "tuck" rule has got to be the most lame rule in the NFL. Why can't the "tuck" rule be enforced for a running back or receiver? If they were trying to switch hands with the ball and it comes "un-tucked" then it isn't a fumble....right? BULL SH_T!!!!!!! (fill in your own blank) A fumble is a fumble folks, pure and simple. If the QB is dropping back to pass and loses the ball (as long as his arm isn't moving forward) then he dropped the damn ball. FUMBLEROOSKI!!! FUMBLEAYA!!! Let's get this rule kicked out of the game. Time to let ol' TAGS know how much we dis this "TUCKING" rule!!!!

DJCrash34
February-14th-2006, 08:32 PM
I gotta vote for the Tuck Rule, completely stupid rule in my opinion, cost us a win in denver and cost oakland a playoff win against new england a few years back.

MarkB452
February-14th-2006, 10:47 PM
Too many downfield on a punt - once the ball is snapped, everyone should be able to go downfield. I don't think punts have gotten that much more exciting since that rule was put in.

>> Gotta disagree on this one. Before the rule was implemented there seemed to be a ton of fair catches. I think the WFL did not allow fair catches.