View Full Version : Poll: If Synder dares to take a Skins home game to London, will you be ENRAGED?
Rdskns2000
February-13th-2006, 09:17 PM
Poll: If Synder dares to take a Skins home game to London, will you be ENRAGED?
Park City Skins
February-13th-2006, 09:23 PM
My only question before answering this one is does he have choice? In other words, if the NFL says "We're scheduling a game in London. Your team is one of them chosen". Then what?
zoony
February-13th-2006, 09:24 PM
I think it would be pretty cool if we were one of the franchises that got to pioneer something like that.
*edit*
But let's keep it to one game and one game only Dan. :)
Rdskns2000
February-13th-2006, 09:25 PM
We aren't the Arizona Cardinals who have no fans.
Teams fans that would be mad at this:
Dallas, Washington, New York Giants, Philadelphia, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, Tampa, Atlanta, Carolina, St Louis, San Francisco, Seattle, Oakland, San Diego, Denver, Kansas City, Indy, Houston, Tennessee, Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, New England, New York Jets, Miami, Buffalo.
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I can only see 3 teams that don't have enough support. Probably more fans don't care than any fans at all.
New Orleans- Even before Katrina, Saints weren't selling well.
Jacksonville- they can't sell out their stadium, even during playoff runs. Hello Los Angeles
Arizona- Probably the only team in the nfl that really doesn't have home fans.
dfbovey
February-13th-2006, 09:26 PM
Not if it means we don't get 8 home games.
Alvin Walton's Mohawk
February-13th-2006, 09:28 PM
This is a rhetorical question right? How can you NOT be mad about the fact that you are losing a home game???
Rdskns2000
February-13th-2006, 09:29 PM
My only question before answering this one is does he have choice? In other words, if the NFL says "We're scheduling a game in London. Your team is one of them chosen". Then what?
I'd Tell Tags- I want you to meet Condeleeza Rice.
Tags: What's the secretary of state doing here?
Dan: Oh- this is going to be the new NFL commisioner, Paul.
Tags: I'm super Tags; you can't do a thing to me.
Dan: Well, I am Super Dan then! I got a majority of the owners to fire your sorry ass.
81+83+84=Posse
February-13th-2006, 09:31 PM
They should take away a Giants home game to make up for the Saints game last year. Send them to London!
Rdskns2000
February-13th-2006, 09:32 PM
If this dares Happens; then Macolm glazer should announce he's moving the Manchester United to Tampa. He can say he wanted his futbol team close to home!
If any playoff contending team has a home game taken because of their greedy owner; then the owner should be boycotted. I would have the fans boycott one home in protest. Noone shows up and available tickets aren't bought.
Park City Skins
February-13th-2006, 09:56 PM
I'd Tell Tags- I want you to meet Condeleeza Rice.
Tags: What's the secretary of state doing here?
Dan: Oh- this is going to be the new NFL commisioner, Paul.
Tags: I'm super Tags; you can't do a thing to me.
Dan: Well, I am Super Dan then! I got a majority of the owners to fire your sorry ass.
In other words, it's probably not Dan making the decision and the team goes where the league says so. Now would I be enraged? Not really. But then I'm not a season ticket holder. If the team didn't compensate those folks who hold them, ( by lowering prices for that season), then I'd be a little pissed for them sure. I'm a football fan and an American. I love "my" sport. That said I'm a sharing kind of guy and don't mind the NFL spreading some American Football goodwill here and there. Judging by the sites and fans from across the sea it's doing pretty good so far.
meetST
February-13th-2006, 09:59 PM
i don't mind ONE game over seas.....it'd be pretty cool for them to go play there...as long as he brings everyone back safe and sound
Renegade7
February-13th-2006, 10:06 PM
They should take away a Giants home game to make up for the Saints game last year. Send them to London!
Hell ya, now that's karma! :notworthy
Seriously, Snyder won't have it. You couldn't get him to play a game at rfk, let alone London. And perfectly understandable, too. Biggest stadium in the entire league and sells out every home game. You'd have to be crazy to mess that up.
mikeyf316
February-13th-2006, 10:16 PM
I can't believe, with all the educated fans on this site, that voters thus far appear so selfish as to not share the best American Football team in the entire ****ing world with those less fortunate. If the NFL was smart, they'd put the Skins against the Bucs in London. What a game THAT should be!
The only way it could be better is if we had a week break and followed our win over the Bucs up with a win over the Cowboys on Thanksgiving.
I have a hard time believing that people are not willing to permit the players they claim to support so staunchly to experience something that few will ever get to do. Yes, the fans are a huge part of the team. Then again, so is the team. Let's support them in doing something special which will bring credit upon themselves and respect to the league as a whole.
Rdskns2000
February-13th-2006, 10:26 PM
I can't believe, with all the educated fans on this site, that voters thus far appear so selfish as to not share the best American Football team in the entire ****ing world with those less fortunate. If the NFL was smart, they'd put the Skins against the Bucs in London. What a game THAT should be!
The only way it could be better is if we had a week break and followed our win over the Bucs up with a win over the Cowboys on Thanksgiving.
I have a hard time believing that people are not willing to permit the players they claim to support so staunchly to experience something that few will ever get to do. Yes, the fans are a huge part of the team. Then again, so is the team. Let's support them in doing something special which will bring credit upon themselves and respect to the league as a whole.
REgular season is different from preseason. Let them go in the preseason. The players can experience that same thing in the preseason!
There are only 8 homes games and the Fans should have the right to see all 8 games at home!
HOF44
February-13th-2006, 10:30 PM
They should take away a Giants home game to make up for the Saints game last year. Send them to London!
Now this is the best idea.
Now I'm a sharing kind of guy, if the NFL wants Europe to have a team expand and let them have one. After seeing what an effect having less home games can have I want no part of it.
terpfan
February-13th-2006, 10:49 PM
Chances he does this < 0.01%
SkinsHokieFan
February-13th-2006, 10:49 PM
I think it would be great
mooby
February-13th-2006, 11:00 PM
Poll: If Synder dares to take a Skins home game to London, will you be ENRAGED?
i won't. You know what the league should do, is make the New York Giants play one of their home games over there, just because they got an extra home game this year. It would be even better if it was the Redskins "at" the Giants.
RIDETHEWALRUS
February-13th-2006, 11:02 PM
The real question is, If the NFL schedules a Redskins game in London would you pay to go?
aussieskin
February-13th-2006, 11:04 PM
why dont the NFL arrange the game the same weekend of the HOF game, that way the teams get a benefit out of it not a negative aspect. The game could not be held during the regular season because of the travel across the pond, instead of a seven day approach to the next game it would only be three or four, this is too big an advantage to the teams playing what is essentialy an exhibition game. I voted that I agreed with the proposal BUT it should be planned outside of the regular season.
kevinklein
February-13th-2006, 11:06 PM
I wouldn't be enraged...but pretty mad. The Skins deserve to have their 90,000 fans cheering them on whenever that is scheduled to happen.
spm
February-13th-2006, 11:27 PM
i won't. You know what the league should do, is make the New York Giants play one of their home games over there, just because they got an extra home game this year. It would be even better if it was the Redskins "at" the Giants.
This is the best idea. I'd love to see the skins in a London game, but I wouldn't want to give up a home game for it. The Giants, because of the extra home game last year, would be the obvious choice for the game, plus they wouldn't have to travel as far as a lot of other teams to get to London.
herrmag
February-13th-2006, 11:31 PM
There's a chance of "no home field advantage", which could equate to a loss. So yes, I'd be pissed.
raperry2
February-13th-2006, 11:35 PM
Redskins, Cowboys, and Eagles will not go after the Giants had 9 home games last year. Giants could possibly go if this ever happened. Send the Saints too. Honestly, who likes that ****ty team?! How can you get psyched over a crappy logo that is gold and black.... zzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz.
mikeyf316
February-13th-2006, 11:46 PM
There are only 8 homes games and the Fans should have the right to see all 8 games at home!
There are a minimum 10 home games, 2 of which are pre-season. Post season adds to that total. Why have a pre-season game, meant for warming up players and testing out new talent, all the way around the world? Keep that local where coaches can have an immediate impact on the players the following day in training to improve performance and correct mistakes. Any opportunity the coaches have to impact the players is lost to travel and jet lag over a good portion of the following week.
The point of playing a regular season game there is to show the rest of the world what a good game looks like. They won't get that from a pre-season game. Fans still retain the right to see all the games, with one being on the international stage. If the league was to be cool about it, they would help to schedule travel packages for Skins fans who want to go show a group of people who know how to get into their chosen sports how we do it here.
bedlamVR
February-14th-2006, 01:18 AM
I have a question what if it was one of the skins away games that were schedualed out here in London would you still be as vermiently against it ?
It would be a sell out - no doubt
It would be a major media event
Would you ever have a better reason to come over to London ?
I would be a huge PR move creating interest not just in the UK but NFL fans would flock from over Europe too. Imagine what it would do to the fan base of the involved teams .
The negative it is a long waty to travel but if you think about that then the Skins may as well never play the Chargers 49ers Cards or Seahawks ever again because the distance between DC and those cities is not that much different between DC and london in the order of 3000 miles .
twenty-eight
February-14th-2006, 01:37 AM
will synder "dare"...:sucks:
s0crates
February-14th-2006, 02:45 AM
I think that if anybody plays a regular season game at a neutral sight it should count as a road game for both teams. This seems like the only fair thing to do, really.
However, I would love to see the Redskins play in London. The Redskins are already pretty popular in England because the first Super Bowl to be shown there was Super Bowl XXII. England could be a whole new fan base for one of the most popular sports franchises in the world.
So, I think London is a great idea. It should be a road game though.
Aberdeenredskin
February-14th-2006, 04:20 AM
Hell I dont want to see a Skins game over here You guys are our 12th man and I dont want us to lose this advantage.
Id like a game over here but not the Redskins at home and certainly not the Cowboys as they stink and their fans are ugly. :dallasuck
skinsfan44
February-14th-2006, 04:41 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing the Redskins playing in London, as long as it counts as an away game.
With only 8 regular season home games, as a season ticket holder, I would be beyond "ENRAGED" if we only had 7 home games.
If the NFL does have a regular season game in London, it should count for BOTH teams as an away game.
CrazyLikeAFox87
February-14th-2006, 05:03 AM
I think that if anybody plays a regular season game at a neutral sight it should count as a road game for both teams. This seems like the only fair thing to do, really.
However, I would love to see the Redskins play in London. The Redskins are already pretty popular in England because the first Super Bowl to be shown there was Super Bowl XXII. England could be a whole new fan base for one of the most popular sports franchises in the world.
So, I think London is a great idea. It should be a road game though.
SB XVII was the first to be shown - I remember staying up to watch it. I was already a Redskins fan, but you're right, the Redskins have always been one of the most popular teams in the UK since Ch4 started showing highlights.
I like the idea of both teams having it as an away game but is this possible?
Pete
February-14th-2006, 05:44 AM
I guess I'm in the miniority, but I don't have a problem with it. It's just another way to showcase the team in a place where American football has become more and more popular as time passes.
OH, and what's wrong with soccer? :doh:
H-O-G
February-14th-2006, 05:58 AM
Football is America's sport.
UK Skins
February-14th-2006, 06:43 AM
In my experience (speaking to American colleagues) the British American Football fans are way more knowledgeable about the game than many Americans. Having seen a pre-season game at Wembley (also the Redskins) the League seems to have realised that we aren't interested in watching the reserves play pitch and catch but would support (and relish) a regular season game. Since most British fans are either 49ers, Cowboys, Dolphins or Redskins fans you would think it would have to feature one or both of those teams.
I do think the idea of having both teams play away makes excellent sense though.
skinsdude
February-14th-2006, 06:52 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing the Redskins playing in London, as long as it counts as an away game.
With only 8 regular season home games, as a season ticket holder, I would be beyond "ENRAGED" if we only had 7 home games.
If the NFL does have a regular season game in London, it should count for BOTH teams as an away game.
Well said. Anyone who thinks that this is acceptable is obviously not a season ticket holder. I don't even want to see it as an away game. I don't want to see our team have to "recover" from all of the hoopla that a road game of that type would have while we're in the middle of a Super Bowl run. Next season, or any season for that matter is serious business. We don't need to be put in the position of promoting the NFL to the detriment of our teams success. As was shown in the 2005 season, EVERY game is important. It can mean the difference between homefield advantage, winning the division, being a wildcard, or not making the playoffs at all.
ChrisL4064
February-14th-2006, 07:03 AM
dont we have a huge fan base in the UK because the first superbowl they viewed was one of our 3. its not a big deal, i like the fact that we have a bunch of fans over there. besides, were gonna have the crowd with us.....
i'd also like to hear some of those hooligans chants for the skins, i'd definately use it at Fedex.
metalliam36
February-14th-2006, 07:33 AM
i'd also like to hear some of those hooligans chants for the skins, i'd definately use it at Fedex.
Well, I've been to FedEx 4 times over the last 2 years, flying over from England, I wouldn't say I've been a hooligan, but I've definitely been loud. I'm English born, but American Football is by far and away my favourite sport.
For those of you saying "just give them a pre-season game"...I don't think that's going to work. Give us a real game, that really counts towards the season, and people will go. Twenty years ago, the Monarchs (London) used to average more than 60,000 per game. It was a mistake not to capitalise on the popularity then, but now the NFL has regained some of that popularity due to pretty good coverage from Sky (Murdoch owned) they'd be foolish to make the same mistake twice. Over the last 4 years the ratings have quadrupled over here. Wembley would sell out...and as long as i'm not in D.C. cheering on the Skins, i'll be at the game, no matter who it is.
They had an NFL guy on T.V. during the Pro-bowl here saying there's an 80-85% chance of there being a game at Wembley next season, it'll either be 24th September or the 1st of October, and it'll be two AFC teams. If it's successful, then there may be an agreement whereas over a 32 year period, each team has to give up a home game. Games will be played in Mexico, England, Canada and probably Germany, although the interest in Hines Ward in Korea may just open up another market.
Now I understand those of you who say "I don't want those limeys to get one of my home games!"...I mean, there's only 8 days out of 365 you can go to FedEx and see a meaningful game (perhaps 9 or 10 next year due to Playoffs) so I'd definitely be upset if the field was reversed.
frazero
February-14th-2006, 08:14 AM
I would love it since I live in London!
Thanos
February-14th-2006, 08:17 AM
Synder would do it if the NFL promised him FedEx would host a Super Bowl.
Dick Edds
February-14th-2006, 08:36 AM
My only question before answering this one is does he have choice? In other words, if the NFL says "We're scheduling a game in London. Your team is one of them chosen". Then what?
Then it needs ot be considered an away game for both teams. NO way you can take tha game away form season-ticket holders.
BLEED-B&G
February-14th-2006, 08:40 AM
send them over in preseason, The League should be really careful about messing with teams home games after the NO NY debacle last year
GrapeApe
February-14th-2006, 08:45 AM
I have a hard time imagining the NFL would take away a home game from a team with the largest stadium, that probably brings in the most money on a home game. I could see them being an away team, but I don't like that either. That's a benefit to the Redskins due to the neutral field.
FedExFielder
February-14th-2006, 08:58 AM
Ok, if the Brits were outraged of an American owner buying a soccer team, do you really think they're gonna love the team coming from the Nation's Capital playing there? Heck no. Keep that extra home game and give it to the great fans of Washington, instead of a bunch of snobs who hate football to begin with.
redskinsffanatic
February-14th-2006, 09:01 AM
As long as Mr. Snyder compensates the fans with a round trip ticket to see the game...I would have no problems with it....any other compensation would not be satisfactory.
As they say in jolly ol' London:
pip - pip - cherio
twenty-eight
February-14th-2006, 10:06 AM
Send the Giants for a home game in england! It will make up for them getting nine last season.
Chief skin
February-14th-2006, 10:24 AM
I want the 8 home regular season games, take 1 of the useless preseason home games over there
twenty-eight
February-14th-2006, 10:27 AM
Send the Giants for a home game in england! It will make up for them getting nine last season.
great idea!:notworthy
fight_on_til_you_have_won
February-14th-2006, 10:42 AM
I would feel bad for the season-ticket holders who get a home game stolen from them. But it would give me an extra game on national TV. :D
MoeRedskins
February-14th-2006, 10:42 AM
As somebody who doesn't have season tickets and ends up watching the games on TV anyway, it has no effect on me really It would stink b/c it literally takes the home field advantage away which is what a lot of teams live on, but if they can show the game at a reasonable hour then I have no problem with it.
helios
February-14th-2006, 10:45 AM
What are you guys talking about..?
H@iL2Gibb$
February-14th-2006, 10:50 AM
I don't have a problem with it . . . as long as FedEx Field will get to host the Super Bowl that same year.
81+83+84=Posse
February-14th-2006, 10:51 AM
great idea!:notworthy
Did you just praise your own post? By the way, that great idea had already been mentioned twice on this thread.
The Mayor
February-14th-2006, 11:33 AM
I am totally opposed to this.
1) I am a season ticket holder! Can you believe that Danny would make us pay for one less game ticket? Not on your life. That would cost the team tons of $$$. I don't want to pay for 10 games only get to go to 9. That stinks to high heaven!
2) No home field advantage. Less likely to win. Anything that hurts the Skins chances of winning is bad in my book.
3) The week after? What a hangover that would be for the teams involved. Very difficult to recover from I would imagine.
4) And even if Danny were to deduct one game from my cost, I would still not be able to watch live and in person the team that I root so strongly for.
thelarkascend1ng
February-14th-2006, 11:35 AM
why would anyone be mad at this for any other reason other than the fact that they lose a home game if they are ticket holders?
helios
February-14th-2006, 12:09 PM
What are you guys talking about??
the burgundy and gold
February-14th-2006, 03:18 PM
that'd piss me off
Jofizz
February-14th-2006, 03:49 PM
the difference here is people with season tickets and people without.
greenhunter7
February-14th-2006, 03:57 PM
Thats what the pre season is for.
ouvan59
February-14th-2006, 03:57 PM
Hell ya, now that's karma! :notworthy
Seriously, Snyder won't have it. You couldn't get him to play a game at rfk, let alone London. And perfectly understandable, too. Biggest stadium in the entire league and sells out every home game. You'd have to be crazy to mess that up.
I seriously doubt the league would ever take a Skins home game away from them. Think about it. The NFL has revenue sharing. The Skins have by far the biggest stadium in the league and they sell out every week. It is no coincidence that it was Arizona that lost a home game this year to Mexico City.
s0crates
February-14th-2006, 04:07 PM
I like the idea of both teams having it as an away game but is this possible?I don't think it has ever been done before. However, it seems like that would be the fair thing to do if the teams are playing at a neutral sight.
The only drawback I can see is that it would affect gambling.
zanshin
February-14th-2006, 05:16 PM
I'm from London and a rabid Skins fan, and I would love to see them here.
:dallasuck
Zanshin
Skinsfan1311
February-14th-2006, 05:54 PM
I'm a season-ticket holder, and you're damn right I'd be enraged!!! I'd be pissed, even if it was an "away" game. An overseas game would be unfair to both teams, for a myriad of reasons. Let the Giants play the Eagles in Afghanistan.....
sknsrbck26
February-14th-2006, 05:59 PM
I think we neded more options for the poll. I would it depends on who we are playin..Easy team who cares and very important game then NO!!!
Capt Rich Fla
February-14th-2006, 06:53 PM
Lets be serious now. I travel the world over in my business and I can honestly say you are wasting a game over there. There is but a handful of Brits who don't agree with the Taliban on issues of America. And they think our football is a joke. They really do not like Americans. We are trying to take over the world or some sh@! In their own words "PI$$ OFF" I love the fact that there are Brits on the web site that are skins fans. This does not include the few. I just think the majority of them would rather have a "SOCCER" game to go to. Don't take it away from our fans.
Oh Yeah! GOD BLESS AMERICA BEEITCH
s0crates
February-14th-2006, 09:07 PM
I'm a season-ticket holder, and you're damn right I'd be enraged!!! I'd be pissed, even if it was an "away" game. An overseas game would be unfair to both teams, for a myriad of reasons. Let the Giants play the Eagles in Afghanistan....."A myriad of reasons?" I can think of only a few:
(1) It would be cheating season ticket holders out of a game.
(2) It would be giving up home feild advantage for a game.
(3) The travel time might be hard for the teams.
(4) John Madden couldn't do the broadcast.
Reasons (1) and (2) would be remedied by making the game a road game for both teams, letting them keep all 8 home games at home. Reason (3) is not much of a reason, the NFC Champion Seattle Seahawks travel nearly the same distance 5-6 times a year. Reason (4) is not convincing to me either; I can do without Madden's commentary.
So, unless there are any other reasons in your myriad, I see no reason not to play a game in London.
s0crates
February-14th-2006, 09:11 PM
Lets be serious now. I travel the world over in my business and I can honestly say you are wasting a game over there. There is but a handful of Brits who don't agree with the Taliban on issues of America. And they think our football is a joke. They really do not like Americans. We are trying to take over the world or some sh@! In their own words "PI$$ OFF" I love the fact that there are Brits on the web site that are skins fans. This does not include the few. I just think the majority of them would rather have a "SOCCER" game to go to. Don't take it away from our fans.
Oh Yeah! GOD BLESS AMERICA BEEITCHYou are aware that Britain has been the most dependable ally of the United States for well over 50 years? I understand patriotism but not hatred of other nations, especially not when those nations are friends of ours.
Dexter's Better
February-14th-2006, 09:17 PM
Poll: If Synder dares to take a Skins home game to London, will you be ENRAGED?
It should be a NYG vs Skins. IT should be the Giants Home Game. Take 1 back from them after last year.
MarkB452
February-14th-2006, 10:41 PM
If they want a Preseason game fine, regular season game - No way.
CrazyLikeAFox87
February-15th-2006, 06:28 AM
Ok, if the Brits were outraged of an American owner buying a soccer team, do you really think they're gonna love the team coming from the Nation's Capital playing there? Heck no. Keep that extra home game and give it to the great fans of Washington, instead of a bunch of snobs who hate football to begin with.
Ok, now you're just showing your ignorance and your age. Have you ever been out of your home town? Do you know any Brits?
I suggest you do some research before you post your blinkered opinions on here.
CrazyLikeAFox87
February-15th-2006, 06:35 AM
Lets be serious now. I travel the world over in my business and I can honestly say you are wasting a game over there. There is but a handful of Brits who don't agree with the Taliban on issues of America. And they think our football is a joke. They really do not like Americans. We are trying to take over the world or some sh@! In their own words "PI$$ OFF" I love the fact that there are Brits on the web site that are skins fans. This does not include the few. I just think the majority of them would rather have a "SOCCER" game to go to. Don't take it away from our fans.
Oh Yeah! GOD BLESS AMERICA BEEITCH
I think you'll find that that's not the case. The issue with the various conflicts have nothing to do with football. There are many fans of the NFL who are very knowledgeable and would relish the chance to see a meaningful game over here. Wembley (if played there) would sell out by fans of all teams, not just the fans of the teams playing.
I understand peole not wanting to lose a home game and if both teams could have an away game followed by a bye week, that would be better. And if Dan could be given a SB at FedEx as an incentive, then everyone's a winner!
This all seems a bit hypothetical anyway as it seems more likely to be two AFC teams if at all.
Scribble
February-15th-2006, 06:59 AM
I'd love it more if it was a Redskins road game - that would be awesome.
:)
I would still like to see the 'skins play over here and would gladly take a pre-season game.
The game if it was to take place over here would be attended by NFL fans from all over Europe, I've no doubt about that.
Why do some people think it's more likely to be AFC teams btw (did I miss something)?
I think they'd sell it out regardless of who it is. :cheers:
Skinsfan1311
February-15th-2006, 07:24 AM
"A myriad of reasons?" I can think of only a few:
(1) It would be cheating season ticket holders out of a game.
(2) It would be giving up home feild advantage for a game.
(3) The travel time might be hard for the teams.
(4) John Madden couldn't do the broadcast.
Reasons (1) and (2) would be remedied by making the game a road game for both teams, letting them keep all 8 home games at home. Reason (3) is not much of a reason, the NFC Champion Seattle Seahawks travel nearly the same distance 5-6 times a year. Reason (4) is not convincing to me either; I can do without Madden's commentary.
So, unless there are any other reasons in your myriad, I see no reason not to play a game in London.
You've listed some great reasons not to have the game in London. My parents lived there for 3 years, and went to one of the games, (I forget which one) they weren't impressed.
1)Someone is losing a home game somewhere.
2)No arguement here
3)I've travelled back & forth "across the pond" It is tiring.
4)Madden is joke. (if Favre was playing, he'd swim across the Atlantic)
The NFL doesn't need to expand. They have NFL Europe. Most Europeans that I know, (I lived overseas for 4 years and keep in touch with many of my friends there), think that American football is a joke.
I've never been to England, but my Dad told me that the Brits seemed to appreciate the athleticism, and the atmosphere, they still don't take it too seriously. It was treated more as a curiosity and an excuse for a party. They don't appreciate it.
bedlamVR
February-15th-2006, 07:29 AM
It would probably be AFC teams because the last game outside america (Mexico - like saying Austria is outside Germany) was two NFC teams the Cards and the 49ers.
Yes the UK is a soccer (-though I cannot stand the "sport") country but around 2-3 million sit up each year and watch the superbowl live every year at 12-4am monday morning, the origional NFLE/WNFL team the 1991 london monachs pulled in attendances of upwards of 50,000 at the old wembley. There WILL be suport for a game in the UK, especially condering the focus we now have on sport in the nations capital with the 2012 olympics and them looking to bring in a F1 racing event, this would be another PR hyped event .
People will point to the America bowl and say the attendances for that were poor in the end which is why they were moved to Japan but the games were poor... how many of you would go to an exhibition/preseason game with no name players who may not even be a team you support and be satisfied. Japan is more of an emerging market for the NFL that kind of game is important over there .
Also I would like to challenge people who say things like this : "There is but a handful of Brits who don't agree with the Taliban on issues of America." then you really are showing your ignorance . There is a noisy minority who shout and stamp thier feet about the war in Iraq, people are alot less vocal about the intervention against the Taliban in Afgansitan. In fact the UK has just sent X100 marines to serve as part of the UN peace keeping/rebuilding force in Afganistan with hardly a ripple in the joint conciousness of the nation . Also I find many people are pro-american I know I am and if you have traveled the world on business encountering an anti American vibe then I might sugest it is not an anti american feeling it may be an anti you ....
Donita35
February-15th-2006, 07:43 AM
Football is America's sport.
So is basketball, but you see what happened to us in the last Olympics. :doh: I am just not sure what your point is. Smile!
stwasm
February-15th-2006, 07:48 AM
Why are we even bothering to showcase football overseas? The Mexico game I understand because there are a LOT of football fans down there. But, why waste time and upset scheduling and logistical issues just to beat our chests and say, "Look at us! We're the N-F-freakin'-L?" To me, it doesn't make sense. And you're right. A home game is lost in the process.
halter91
February-15th-2006, 07:49 AM
personlly, I'd be pissed. :mad:
Sherlock Holmes
February-15th-2006, 09:14 AM
Considering alot of posts have been very negative...ID LOVE IT....and i wouldnt care a bit about you lot...the majority of you have at least one game in your vicinity a year that you can watch (without transatlantic flights etc) and so the possibility of us lot here in britain getting to watch the skins only seems fair that we can watch at least one game in our lives without paying dreadfull amounts of money.
And i wouldnt feel sorry for any of you guys, pissed that you cant see every game a year and you are forced to miss one game. Season ticket holders of course thats different.
Anyway this question is out of context, because next season if a game is played in LONDON it would be TWO AFC TEAMS. HELL, if Jason campbell doesnt start this year my avatar is gone anyway...but if he does, and IF a game is definitely scheduled (next couple weeks) then i bet my avatar/username if you like that it would be two AFC teams. AND CHANGE IT TO WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE.
Aberdeenredskin
February-15th-2006, 09:33 AM
Why are we even bothering to showcase football overseas? The Mexico game I understand because there are a LOT of football fans down there. But, why waste time and upset scheduling and logistical issues just to beat our chests and say, "Look at us! We're the N-F-freakin'-L?" To me, it doesn't make sense. And you're right. A home game is lost in the process.
Dont for a second think that its fans in the us that are followers of the skins click on the link on my sig to check out more of us !
SkinnedAussie
February-15th-2006, 10:16 AM
I suppose a game Down Under, in a stadium that holds 100,000+ spectators, on natural grass, would be out of the question then?
Sherlock Holmes
February-15th-2006, 10:47 AM
I suppose a game Down Under, in a stadium that holds 100,000+ spectators, on natural grass, would be out of the question then?
currently yes...sorry man theres not enough support for the game down under yet im guessing. London then Germany are my guesses.
bedlamVR
February-15th-2006, 10:47 AM
Why are we even bothering to showcase football overseas? The Mexico game I understand because there are a LOT of football fans down there. But, why waste time and upset scheduling and logistical issues just to beat our chests and say, "Look at us! We're the N-F-freakin'-L?" To me, it doesn't make sense. And you're right. A home game is lost in the process.
Mexico is a major soccer country too like the UK , I would say thier soccer fans are as fanatic as they are elsewhere in the world.
Sherlock Holmes
February-15th-2006, 10:48 AM
YES- Skins games are for the Fans, not for some foreigners who's main game is soccer!
Football, its called football all over the world. Fussball? foosball tables?? FOOTBALL.
Thanos
February-15th-2006, 01:08 PM
YES- Skins games are for the Fans, not for some foreigners who's main game is soccer!
Football, its called football all over the world. Fussball? foosball tables?? FOOTBALL.
Football or soccer is the most popular game in the world.But cricket and rugby are popular as hell also.Heard that forigner soocer players love the friendlies here because noone bothers them.
Let's be real here.If its a regular season game.I see two east coast ties with some sort of ties to Europe.The Skins just do fit that template at this time.
fdarugar
February-15th-2006, 01:16 PM
Hell yea, that would suck...
robarchbold
February-15th-2006, 03:01 PM
Initially I'd be really happy - seeing as I live in England then I'd get to see the Skins without having to fly to the US.
By the way I voted Yes (I would be enraged) because I assume that the question was asking if a home game was taken away. I would not want to see the skins in London if it meant we lose homefield advantage ...
Now if it was a road game then maybe that would change my vote ??? Thinking about it though No it wouldn't - I don't really think it's a good idea to play NFL games in the rest of the world - these games belong in the US and that's where they should stay. If the rest of the world wants to see an NFL game then they can watch it on TV or get to where the games are played (like I did and will do again)
By all means play a pre-season game in London (as has happened in the past) but keep the regular season games where they belong.
ChiefPowhatan17
February-15th-2006, 03:39 PM
Because then it's not a home game and we lose our home field advantage and our record could suffer. It's all about the W's.
woodchopper88
February-15th-2006, 04:24 PM
Although a chance to go to my first skins game would be amazing I would want it to be an away game coz homefield advantage is huge for us at FedEx.
I am annoyed at some of the anti-British comments expressed here though. Yes, we love 'soccer' but there is room for more than one sport! The NFL fans here are really passionate - how else would they keep interested in a sport that receives little media coverage.
Whichever game would be here in London, I would go to it since it is an amazing opportunity. However, I can imagine if a Manchester United game was moved to the USA (could never happen) I would be outraged. Still, we shouldn't speculate too much about all this because a game in London may not happen, it will be 2 AFC teams if it does and would never be a skins home game because we fill the biggest stadium in the NFL!!!
ItaliaMuscle
February-15th-2006, 04:37 PM
They should take away a Giants home game to make up for the Saints game last year. Send them to London!
Daaammm Straight!
Tazhog
February-15th-2006, 05:03 PM
We aren't the Arizona Cardinals who have no fans.
Teams fans that would be mad at this:
Dallas, Washington, New York Giants, Philadelphia, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, Tampa, Atlanta, Carolina, St Louis, San Francisco, Seattle, Oakland, San Diego, Denver, Kansas City, Indy, Houston, Tennessee, Baltimore, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, New England, New York Jets, Miami, Buffalo.
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I can only see 3 teams that don't have enough support. Probably more fans don't care than any fans at all.
New Orleans- Even before Katrina, Saints weren't selling well.
Jacksonville- they can't sell out their stadium, even during playoff runs. Hello Los Angeles
Arizona- Probably the only team in the nfl that really doesn't have home fans.
Amen brother! Well said... Danny boy has to feel the same way if he has a choice in the matter...
danbee
February-15th-2006, 05:07 PM
As season ticket holders we get 10 games. There should be no change to that. Leave overseas games for the preseason.
Tom Sullivan
February-15th-2006, 05:12 PM
To be honest, the best scenario would be if the Redskins had an AWAY game moved to London. Perhaps if we had to play Seattle or Denver in London instead of in their home stadiums. It would be a game on neutral turf, and the Redskins would be able to win the crowd over with a good and exciting performance.
Having a home game over there would not be a good possibility.
Walking Deadman
February-15th-2006, 05:22 PM
As a ticket holder, I don't think I'd be too happy about it.
Granted, b/c of my own schedule I can't attend every home game each season. However, we as ticket holders pay so much to see the team that it would be annoying to lose a home game and yet still be forced to pay for the 2 home preseason games (which frankly is fun to watch at home learning about unknown talent and picking out camp fodder. However, not as great
watching live being that the starters hardly play and you don't recognize many of the 2nd, 3rd and 4th teamers out there) in order now to get only 7 games.
A neutral location is also skewed b/c we don't know who the UK fan base will be rooting (the "home" team or "away" team), this can have playoff implications with a home team loss (especially if we were playing a NFCE or another NFC team where every win may determine seating in the playoffs).
I'd love to see the Skins in a England game, so our fellow ESers across the pond can see Redskins football live.....but being a guy who travels almost 3 hours each way, loses his voice by the third quarter and truly enjoys being with 90,000 other people in a crowded stadium (when usually I get annoyed when I'm stuck in a crowd of people ;) ) and pays a ton of money to see my Skins play, it's hard to say "yeah, let's give up a home game"
I think it will happen, but not initially and only if there is successful sell outs occur in the next couple of games.
MartinC
February-15th-2006, 06:22 PM
I'd be all for it - but then I might be considered a bit biased living in England and all :D
HTTR
Martin
Pete
February-15th-2006, 07:12 PM
YES- Skins games are for the Fans, not for some foreigners who's main game is soccer!
Football, its called football all over the world. Fussball? foosball tables?? FOOTBALL.
Actually, soccer is called football in many if not more countries around the world, though it may be spelled differently. What we have is often known as "American football", or just NFL.
Soccer is far more popular throughout the world then the sport we play here, and soccer is the # 1 youth sport in the U.S. of A. Soccer is played in almost every country in the world. How many countries have leagues playing the game we play?
If you don't think the Skins should play in England, that's your opinion. But it helps to know the subject at hand before you make statments like the one above.
:cheers:
Rdskns2000
February-16th-2006, 12:13 AM
Actually, soccer is called football in many if not more countries around the world, though it may be spelled differently. What we have is often known as "American football", or just NFL.
Soccer is far more popular throughout the world then the sport we play here, and soccer is the # 1 youth sport in the U.S. of A. Soccer is played in almost every country in the world. How many countries have leagues playing the game we play?
If you don't think the Skins should play in England, that's your opinion. But it helps to know the subject at hand before you make statments like the one above.
:cheers:
GOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL!
I used " YES- Skins games are for the Fans, not for some foreigners who's main game is soccer!" that for effect. I always do that.
Of course, Football is most popular sport in the world. Those fans will get into a crazy frenzy this spring with the World Cup 06. I think those fans would be very upset if they took a regular home game in their division and moved it to the U.S. Talk about football hooligans. They would be riots and burning in the streets.
They have their football and the Americans have our football.
UK Skins
February-16th-2006, 03:35 AM
Pete you are absolutely right. And I believe that the US Women's soccer (football) team is the best in the world. Some of you can be totally blinkered about the game but I can see a time in the future where football will be huge in the States.
Grue
February-16th-2006, 04:43 AM
I'm from England (some 200 miles from London), and have been a Skins fan since around 1970, so of course i'd love to see the Skins play in London, 'Soccer' certainly is not my main game, in fact i hate it :)
I watched segment of SKY Sports over here during the pro-bowl... suggesting the idea for a rolling 32 yr schedule spread over a number of countries, so every NFL team would have to give up a home game during this period. The game would be before a bye week for both teams it was said, plus the fact the fact the the game is likely to be held in early october means that no team will look to field a weakened side for fear of denting.
Sherlock Holmes
February-16th-2006, 05:53 AM
Actually, soccer is called football in many if not more countries around the world, though it may be spelled differently. What we have is often known as "American football", or just NFL.
Soccer is far more popular throughout the world then the sport we play here, and soccer is the # 1 youth sport in the U.S. of A. Soccer is played in almost every country in the world. How many countries have leagues playing the game we play?
If you don't think the Skins should play in England, that's your opinion. But it helps to know the subject at hand before you make statments like the one above.
:cheers:
:cheers:
Oh but i do....im actually living in England...and i wouldnt care one little bit about the rest of you in america, complaining because you wouldnt get to see a game...obviously i dont want the skins to lose a home game, but i wouldnt care about anyone sulking over your side of the pond if there was a game played over here involving the skins.
I actually said that its called football all over the world...not that its not called soccer anywhere but the USA. But i take your point...
jimster
February-16th-2006, 11:06 AM
My only question before answering this one is does he have choice? In other words, if the NFL says "We're scheduling a game in London. Your team is one of them chosen". Then what?
exactly. - I don't understand the "if he dared" to take a game away, like the only reason for him to do it would to be a jerk to the fans.
I'm sure he'd rather keep the fans happy.
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HOF44
February-16th-2006, 11:11 AM
I don't think Snyder will have alot of say. The league will do the schedule and thats where we will play.
washogskinz
February-16th-2006, 11:24 AM
It might be alright with me. The cowboys have always claimed to be "America's Team". This is our chance to be the "Universe's Team". The Washington Post wrote an article about immigrants who adopt the Redskins as their team. Did you see the Indian Sikh guy with the matching burgundy turban congratulating Santana Moss after a touchdown and "Fex-ex leap" last season? Imagine 1 Billion screaming Chinese singing "Hail to the Redskins" in unison! We could televise games on Al Jazzerra and make the Arabs love us.
paulwhy
February-16th-2006, 03:49 PM
The Giants should go since they had an extra home game last year
cadets08
February-16th-2006, 04:13 PM
If it's a preseason game sure why not? But if it was a regular season game I think I would have a different opinon.
Chrisbob74
February-16th-2006, 04:23 PM
A few ponts to address here:
First, to those panicing about losing a home game - DON'T. It looks increasing likely the game in London (if it gets the go ahead, which looks very likely now) will be between two AFC teams. The UK TV Coverage of the Pro Bowl had the Vice President of NFL YK Operations on and he said CBS was the likely network for the broadcasting of the game and it would most likely be AFC teams.Two play-off teams he said. I personelly think the Jaguars will be one, as they haven't the strongest home fan base against someone like the Colts, Dolphins or Patriots.
Second, I'd love it to be the Skins, but for the sake of the season ticket holders, it would be nice if it were an away game. BUT...........if what Tags has planned goes through, get ready to lose a home game at some point although it would only be once every 32 years. Regardless of who goes and plays in london, I'll go and see it..................which brings me to my third point.............
..........I've seen some people respond with the almost 'throwaway' guesture of a pre-season game. Why do you think they stopped sending teams over here after 6 or 7 American Bowls? No because the game wasn't popular enough, but because the fans had out-grown it and weren't buying a half baked product any more.
For the NFL and Tags to build the dream of making the NFL an accepted world wide sport on a much larger scale, the real thing has to be show cased. Sending teams around the world so fans can watch guys who might not even make it into next years NFLE teams won't cut it.
Give us a real game and real football.
GhostofAlvinWalton
February-16th-2006, 05:57 PM
If both teams had a home game the week before and a "bye week" after the game....I wouldn't mind that much. :2cents:
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LaVarGreen2856
February-16th-2006, 06:11 PM
To London, yes... to Mexico City... well, no :)
Joey T
February-16th-2006, 06:35 PM
This is an asinine poll.
Snyder nor any other owner has the power to move a game. Home or away.
You have to play by the rules kids. Didn't your mom & dad teach you that? :doh:
I can't believe I'm replying to this post as I watch the words I'm typing scroll
across the monitor :laugh:
Capt Rich Fla
February-16th-2006, 08:26 PM
You are aware that Britain has been the most dependable ally of the United States for well over 50 years? I understand patriotism but not hatred of other nations, especially not when those nations are friends of ours.Sorry about that. I should have specified the far left.:D
Jino
February-17th-2006, 03:48 AM
Dumbest thread ever
Gallntfox
February-17th-2006, 07:25 AM
Whoa......I just had a thought. Last year the Skins mailed the invoices out the day after the Super Bowl. Perhaps they are waiting for word from the league whether to invoice for 7 or 8 games because one of them will be overseas.......hmmmmmmmm
Aberdeenredskin
February-18th-2006, 06:35 AM
The cowboys have always claimed to be "America's Team". This is our chance to be the "Universe's Team".
We already are the worlds team ! see attached link in my sig for details
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