Impeach The Traitor!!!!

[Chief skin]

King W says he will veto any attempt by Congress to block his haribrained scheme of selling American port security to his Arab buddies. Maybe he should invite his Dubai as well as Saudi buddies over and and explain it all to the Congress, they can all hold hands and make googoo eyes at each other.

IMPEACH THE INCOMPETENT FOOL

[Kilmer17]

King W says he will veto any attempt by Congress to block his haribrained scheme of selling American port security to his Arab buddies. Maybe he should invite his Dubai as well as Saudi buddies over and and explain it all to the Congress, they can all hold hands and make googoo eyes at each other.

IMPEACH THE INCOMPETENT FOOL



Of course you know that it's not port SECURITY.

But dont let facts get in the way of good vitriolic temper tantrum.

[skinstzar]

I predict that some will agree with you and some will not. Some will also fall in the middle.

[hokie4redskins]

Not happy about this whatsoever.

But let's put the partisan hatred/impeachment talk off to the side for now.

[Redskins Diehard]

King W says he will veto any attempt by Congress to block his haribrained scheme of selling American port security to his Arab buddies. Maybe he should invite his Dubai as well as Saudi buddies over and and explain it all to the Congress, they can all hold hands and make googoo eyes at each other.

IMPEACH THE INCOMPETENT FOOL

I just like how he always calls him "King W", no doubt looking at facts without a predrawn conclusion.

[PleaseBlitz]

King W says he will veto any attempt by Congress to block his haribrained scheme of selling American port security to his Arab buddies. Maybe he should invite his Dubai as well as Saudi buddies over and and explain it all to the Congress, they can all hold hands and make googoo eyes at each other.

IMPEACH THE INCOMPETENT FOOL

I had this news story explained to me in 100 words or less:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145266


I still understand it better than you. ;)

[Ignatius J.]

Look I hate W. I mean I've go those credentials in spades. The guy is a fool, and idiot, whatever you want to say bad about him I'll pretty much agree.

But, I think you're dead wrong to call him a traitor for this. There are so many valid things to talk about impeachment over, but this.... I don't think so.

[rincewind]

So he does know what a veto is. Huh?

[Ignatius J.]

So he does know what a veto is. Huh?

:notworthy

[DeanCollins]

King W says he will veto any attempt by Congress to block his haribrained scheme of selling American port security to his Arab buddies. Maybe he should invite his Dubai as well as Saudi buddies over and and explain it all to the Congress, they can all hold hands and make googoo eyes at each other.

IMPEACH THE INCOMPETENT FOOL

Bush- "if you've got oil, I'm your friend" :smooch: (misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=26#)

[Winslowalrob]

I hate Bush, I wish he was dead, but this is not what we should impeach his homophobic butt on.

[Chief skin]

Look I hate W. I mean I've go those credentials in spades. The guy is a fool, and idiot, whatever you want to say bad about him I'll pretty much agree.

But, I think you're dead wrong to call him a traitor for this. There are so many valid things to talk about impeachment over, but this.... I don't think so.

Just the straw that broke the camels back here, whenever he feels it to his advantage he drags up images of 911 for his political gain. Then he goes and puts the entire country at risk, and to ice the cake he has the nerve to thumb his nose at Congress. He does have his subjects on a strong dose of that kool aid I got to hand it to him on that point. His subjects are loyal to the bitter end, still holding at 39% approval

[Skins24]

Arab Americans see bigotry... (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2006-02-21T201433Z_01_N21145126_RTRUKOC_0_US-PORTS-BIAS.xml&rpc=22)
Who didn't see that coming






....the change in management would have no real effect on security, which would still be carried out by American workers to international standards.

[luckydevil]

A lot of hatred on this board.

[Bang]

Well, spewing aside, I can't see how this move makes any sense at all.

~Bang

[SkinsHokieFan]

Free trade is a ***** isn't it?

Or is it something more sinister?

[Murdering Purple Turds]

I'm a hardcore Democrat, and I must say that I take my hat off to the Republican members of Congress for stepping up to block another financial end-around for some of Bush's buddies (this time his hand-holding oil pals).

This is one of the few times that the congressional Republicans haven't fallen in line with what Ferdinand "Bush"cos has asked.

For Bush and the conservatives to use racial profiling to illegally wire-tap and screen Arab citizens and then to say that not giving our ports away to the UAE is "racist"....well, it is beyond comprehension. You can't have it both ways.

[luckydevil]

Arab Americans see bigotry... (http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2006-02-21T201433Z_01_N21145126_RTRUKOC_0_US-PORTS-BIAS.xml&rpc=22)
Who didn't see that coming

I am not Arab and I see the bigotry as well. It's a damn shame that economic nationalism is taken seriously.

This whole episode just depresses the hell out of me.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I am not Arab and I see the bigotry as well. It's a damn shame that economic nationalism is taken seriously.

This whole episode just depresses the hell out of me.


Yup, agree. This is how you defeat extremism, trade with those people



It is pretty sad

[Skins24]

(should be in the 100 words or less thread but...whatever)

P & O (the England company) had been running the show
DBW (the UAE company) buys P & O
Bush = eh, no biggie. The new compay can take over.
Others = WTF!!! NO!! END OF WORLD!

Am I missing something?

[Murdering Purple Turds]

I don't see it as bigotry. If Iceland bankrolled the 9/11 hijackers it would be the same story. We're at war. I don't agree with the war, but we are. I doubt we'd have given control of our port security to Germany during WWII.

And yes, I know we aren't at war with the UAE, but we are at war with their ideals.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I don't see it as bigotry. If Iceland bankrolled the 9/11 hijackers it would be the same story. We're at war. I don't agree with the war, but we are. I doubt we'd have given control of our port security to Germany during WWII.

And yes, I know we aren't at war with the UAE, but we are at war with their ideals.


Which is Islam, right?

[luckydevil]

Yup, agree. This is how you defeat extremism, trade with those people

damn right

Bastiat said it best

"When goods do not cross borders, soldiers will"

[SkinsHokieFan]

damn right

Bastiat said it best

"When goods do not cross borders, soldiers will"


Didn't Regan say once our products enter their markets, soon our ideals will? Something along those lines?

[PleaseBlitz]

Yup, agree. This is how you defeat extremism, trade with those people



Exactly. This entire conflict is going to be won with economics, not armies and navies. Put an few bucks in their pockets that wasnt their before. They'll warm up to us, i promise.


Amazing how in the tailgate we agree, yet we murder each other in the NCAA forum. :whoknows:

[Murdering Purple Turds]

No. Ideals such as:

- supporting violence as a means to initiate change
- gender/racial discrimination
- opposition to freedom of thought and speech

Yeah, you could pin Islam onto this, but this works for any repressive regime, no matter what religion, race or creed.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Exactly. This entire conflict is going to be won with economics, not armies and navies. Put an few bucks in their pockets that wasnt their before. They'll warm up to us, i promise.


Amazing how in the tailgate we agree, yet we murder each other in the NCAA forum. :whoknows:


Hahaha, oh the crazy ideas we have in our heads

[SkinInsite]

Maybe UAE can sweeten the deal and give us all coupons to their new ski resort.

[Murdering Purple Turds]

By the way, if anyone thinks that UAE or Dubai needs our money, check their tourism website. They have an indoor ski mountain for God's sake....in the DESERT!!!

[SkinsHokieFan]

No. Ideals such as:

- supporting violence as a means to initiate change
- gender/racial discrimination
- opposition to freedom of thought and speech

Yeah, you could pin Islam onto this, but this works for any repressive regime, no matter what religion, race or creed.


You will find less of that in the U.A.E becuase of the incredible amount of money they have flowing in now

Western tourists are flocking to Dubai, and young guys and girls are trying to imitate them. That place is on the rise, and doesn't deserve this kind of treatment

[luckydevil]

Dubai Land will attract even more westerners

[SkinsHokieFan]

Dubai Land will attract even more westerners


And via them classic liberalism spreads. I am seeing your thoughts on the war lucky, i still don't know how you trade with dictators though

[KAOSkins]

Doesn't that trade imply selling our goods in the UAE? Not outsourcing the management of sites with high national security interest. If so, then I fully back that idea.


We will corrupt the morals of those SOBs yet. ;)

[PleaseBlitz]

By the way, if anyone thinks that UAE or Dubai needs our money, check their tourism website. They have an indoor ski mountain for God's sake....in the DESERT!!!


Its not about NEEDING our money. Its about working together.

What do you think they say about us? America doesnt need to trade with us, they have frickin' rockets going up into space just to take pictures. They have sports franchises worth a billion dollars or more (and not just a few). They built an entire city that looks like THIS:

http://www.pokerleaguecolorado.com/_graphics/las_vegas_strip.jpg
Just to gamble.

[visionary]

This thread hasn't been locked yet? ;-) (though I've only read part of the first page so far)

[Winslowalrob]

Didn't Regan say once our products enter their markets, soon our ideals will? Something along those lines?

Oh god do not put Reagan into this ;). Clinton had some good quotes too :).

[Fergasun]

I've been keeping track of this through Michelle Malkin's Blog (http://www.michellemalkin.com/). I've posted what I'm aware of down below.

Bush has a decent point, talking about racism. I'm as xenophobic as the next guy, but no one cared that an American corporation didn't do this job until it was to be sold to an Arab corporation. A Singapore corporation was bidding for the job, and I doubt anyone would be in an uproar if they got it.

I'm not aware of the UAE's track record against terrorism, maybe someone can help... but it would be nice to have in this case. If UAE has a poor track record with cooperation in the War on Terror, we could say "You guys are doing a crummy job putting down Extremism in your country". I haven't heard much about that other than the 9/11 funding and terrorists coming from there. The terrorists also lived in Germany for a time, do we cut off trade with Germany due to it?

What do the free-traders here have to say about the bond UAE issued to fund the large bid? That's not free trade at all. How do you feel about tariff's levied against American cars in China? Are they a hindrance to free trade?

Also, I don't think the Dubai company has a lot of experience in this field. They were just set up in September, which makes this a little suspect. P&O also runs port operations in India and Australia... this highlights the global issue.



Bush's point:


"I want those who are questioning it to step up and explain why all of a sudden a Middle Eastern company is held to a different standard than a Great British company. I am trying to conduct foreign policy now by saying to the people of the world, `We'll treat you fairly.'

Interesting information on why Dubai is doing this:


The real reason Dubai Ports World is undergoing the transaction is because of an Islamic finance vehicle called the sukuk. The sukuk is essentially a commerical paper type of Islamic financle vehicle--it is essentially a "fake" bond to work around the Muslim prohibition on interest. If the Dubai Ports World sukuk goes through, it becomes the largest publicly traded sukuk in the world. As a result, Dubai instantly becomes the place to go for Islamic finance in the world--and folks specializing in Islamic finance stand to make a great deal of money.

More information on the Singapore company bidding against Dubai for the ports. Note that Dubai Ports World is a state-owned corporation.



Dubai Ports World (DPW), owned by the emirate's government, fired the first shot when it made a bid of US$5.91 billion in November 2005. However, Singapore’s PSA has hit back, approaching P&O with a conditional counter offer of US$6.21 billion. A formal offer could be submitted within the next few days. PSA’s conditions were that it be allowed to complete satisfactory due diligence, that its board give final approval, that P&O’s directors withdraw their recommendation of the DPW offer, and that P&O’s pension trustees approve the offer. PSA has operations in 11 countries and is the world’s second-largest ports group. By contrast, DPW was formed as recently as September with the amalgamation of the Dubai Ports Authority and DPI Terminals. However, if DPW were to acquire P&O — currently the world’s fourth-largest ports group — the industry landscape would shift dramatically. Not only would DPW immediately become the second-largest player in the marketplace, it would also have secured key ports in India and Australia — markets in which fast traffic growth is anticipated...


Interesting on how they got the money to bid:


In order to help fund the massive bid, Dubai Ports, Customs & Free Zone Corporation (PCFC) have launched the world’s largest sukuk, or Sharia-compliant bond. What was intended as a US $2.8 billion issue has instead rocketed to US $3.5 billion, after an overwhelming response from investors. Lead-managed by Dubai Islamic Bank (DIB) and Barclays Capital, the distinctive sukuk is also the first convertible instrument in the Islamic finance market.

[visionary]

We might be more in danger from Singapore than from the Emirates.

[dragon_mikal]

So let me get this straight...

An English company that controlled the ports was bought out by an Arab owned company and everyone is freaking out?

Is the Arab company run by extremists? I work at a port and I don't see what the big deal is?

Are some of you seriously saying that we shouldn't do this deal because an Arab owns the company?

Isn't that bit racist? Has this country become so scared of its own shadow that people are actually discussing not doing this deal because a certain race will be in control?

As I said before...I work at a port and the security measures are pretty tight. I'm pretty sure Americans will still be the ones in charge of security and such...so...I don't get why this is turning into such a big deal?

[Mickalino]

It's all part of a deal.

Bush gives them the ports, if they stop the cartoon riots. :rolleyes:

[Bonez3]

Of course you know that it's not port SECURITY.

But dont let facts get in the way of good vitriolic temper tantrum.

Amazing the length some will go to defend this man. It reminds me of the argument that guns don't kill people, the bullets do.

Sure, planting thousands of 'well screened' arab workers on our ports isn't a concern. It definetely doesn't make the ports any less secure or easier to infiltrate or even more difficult for the 'security' already.

[Fergasun]

Sure, planting thousands of 'well screened' arab workers on our ports isn't a concern. It definetely doesn't make the ports any less secure or easier to infiltrate or even more difficult for the 'security' already.

Who said the plan was to put Arab workers in our ports? No one knows how this will be implemented... who is familiar with ports?

[Mickalino]

"Read My Lips : 'This nation will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those states who harbour them ! Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists !!.....unless you give us a REALLY good deal on oil !

[PleaseBlitz]

I don't get why this is turning into such a big deal?


Because the President of the United States is on one side of an issue.

Hence, people are going to take the other side, question his judgement, call for his impeachment, call him an idiot, etc etc, ad nauseum. :rolleyes:

[visionary]

It's amazing how xenophobia and just pure dislike of Bush are meshing in this thread.

[luckydevil]

Sure, planting thousands of 'well screened' arab workers on our ports isn't a concern. It definetely doesn't make the ports any less secure or easier to infiltrate or even more difficult for the 'security' already.

Ah, bigotry got to love it.


Oh and not all of us are Bush defenders, some of us even support impeachment.

[Xameil]

You know who should really be ticked off is the Chinese. Bush blocked them.

[SkinsHokieFan]

Amazing the length some will go to defend this man. It reminds me of the argument that guns don't kill people, the bullets do.

Sure, planting thousands of 'well screened' arab workers on our ports isn't a concern. It definetely doesn't make the ports any less secure or easier to infiltrate or even more difficult for the 'security' already.


Thanks cuz every Arab and Muslim in this country has blown **** up

My God, some of these arguments from so called liberals shows incredible intolerance

[Midnight Judges]

Look I hate W. I mean I've go those credentials in spades. The guy is a fool, and idiot, whatever you want to say bad about him I'll pretty much agree.

But, I think you're dead wrong to call him a traitor for this. There are so many valid things to talk about impeachment over, but this.... I don't think so.

My thoughts exactly but I still have a problem with any foriegn companies controlling our ports in any way. Out of principle, we should do this ourselves. Kinda like how we all buy American cars.....right? :mad:

[Ignatius J.]

I brought this up in another thread, but what does this even mean? Doe sit just mean that they get to collect port usage fees in exchange for financing the repair of cranes? Are the people on the ground going to change at all? What power does this really give this company? Does anyone know the answer to any of these questions?

We're not asking these guys to take over the customs bureau, right? I mean if we're concerned about security we should put more inspectors at the ports.

We should be asking the people who typically run or work at these ports what the take over would mean in terms of day to day operation. That;s what's important.

[PleaseBlitz]

I brought this up in another thread, but what does this even mean? Doe sit just mean that they get to collect port usage fees in exchange for financing the repair of cranes? Are the people on the ground going to change at all? What power does this really give this company? Does anyone know the answer to any of these questions?

We're not asking these guys to take over the customs bureau, right? I mean if we're concerned about security we should put more inspectors at the ports.

We should be asking the people who typically run or work at these ports what the take over would mean in terms of day to day operation. That;s what's important.

Judging from the outrage, apparantly it gives muslims the ability to blow our ports up. I guess its just that simple. :doh:

[Ignatius J.]

Because the President of the United States is on one side of an issue.

Hence, people are going to take the other side, question his judgement, call for his impeachment, call him an idiot, etc etc, ad nauseum. :rolleyes:

Because questioning the president is such an aweful and tiresome thing isn't it? Rolling your eyes at legitimate dissent makes you look silly, especially in this case of all cases where the divide is hardly along party lines.

I don't think this knee jerk reaction you exhibit explains the general republican uproar OR the amount of support for this plan you've been seeing by the liberal base around here. It isn't a party issue, and it isn't an issue of general disaproval of the president, so please don't try to frame it as one. There are legitimate concerns here.

[PleaseBlitz]

Because questioning the president is such an aweful and tiresome thing isn't it? Rolling your eyes at legitimate dissent makes you look silly, especially in this case of all cases where the divide is hardly along party lines.

I don't think this knee jerk reaction you exhibit explains the general republican uproar OR the amount of support for this plan you've been seeing by the liberal base around here. It isn't a party issue, and it isn't an issue of general disaproval of the president, so please don't try to frame it as one. There are legitimate concerns here.



Did i say questioning the president is "aweful" or tiresome? No, i didnt. But the fact is every time the President is on TV, whatever he says is an impeachable offense to the liberals on this board. Look at the title to this thread. THAT is tiresome.

[redskins4life234]

King W says he will veto any attempt by Congress to block his haribrained scheme of selling American port security to his Arab buddies. Maybe he should invite his Dubai as well as Saudi buddies over and and explain it all to the Congress, they can all hold hands and make googoo eyes at each other.

IMPEACH THE INCOMPETENT FOOL


Too bad Bush hasnt broke anylaws meaning he isnt goign to have an impeachment trial. Also congress is controlled my Republicans, meaning they Wouldn't impeach him or find him guilty if for some reason they did. So with that.. SHut up everyone with the "Impeach Bush" Crap as it wont happen unless he breaks some major law.

And before anyone says it, the wiretapping, he didnt break any laws doing that.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

King W says he will veto any attempt by Congress to block his haribrained scheme of selling American port security to his Arab buddies. Maybe he should invite his Dubai as well as Saudi buddies over and and explain it all to the Congress, they can all hold hands and make googoo eyes at each other.

IMPEACH THE INCOMPETENT FOOL

Don't you watch 24? Maybe the Arabs have him by the ######. And he is saving millions of lives by doing this??????? :laugh:

[PleaseBlitz]

Wow, we have at least 234 Redskins4Life's.

I wonder how many Die Hard's we have?

[chomerics]

The only good thing that will come of this is that is will give the appearance in Americans eyes that Dubya cares about money more then terrorism (which is true BTW, but this isn't a good example of it). Other then that, it is one of the few times I agree with the man. . .I'm not suprised I disagree with the vast majority of posters here though, which just reconfirms to me I'm on the right side of the argument :D

[SkinsHokieFan]

The only good thing that will come of this is that is will give the appearance in Americans eyes that Dubya cares about money more then terrorism (which is true BTW, but this isn't a good example of it). Other then that, it is one of the few times I agree with the man. . .I'm not suprised I disagree with the vast majority of posters here though, which just reconfirms to me I'm on the right side of the argument :D


I don't see how trying to work with another gov't in terms of trade and commerce is "caring more about money then terrorism"

If anything, money is part of the answer to ending terror, and trade and commerce help in that

Glad you are finally on the right side of the argument though

[Larry]

Too bad Bush hasnt broke any laws meaning he isnt goign to have an impeachment trial.

That wasn't good enough for Clinton.

(Sorry, had to.)

[Larry]

Sure, planting thousands of 'well screened' arab workers on our ports isn't a concern. It definetely doesn't make the ports any less secure or easier to infiltrate or even more difficult for the 'security' already.

Last time I checked, you had to be a US citizen or have permission from the US government to work in the US. (Although, granted, Bush is working hard on that one.)

[redskins4life234]

That wasn't good enough for Clinton.

(Sorry, had to.)

From what my dad told me, Clinton's impeachment he had 2 charges of purchary(sp) and two of instruction of justice. That is worthy enough of being impeached even though he wasn't convicted. So yes, Clinton did do something ;)


(Sorry, had to.)

[Larry]

Look I hate W. I mean I've go those credentials in spades. The guy is a fool, and idiot, whatever you want to say bad about him I'll pretty much agree.

But, I think you're dead wrong to call him a traitor for this. There are so many valid things to talk about impeachment over, but this.... I don't think so.

Speaking as one of those loony liberals who thinks he should be impeached, for treason, I'm with Iggy, here.

If you think this is the worst thing W has done then you haven't been paying attention.

[NoCalMike]

I find it hilarious that is Bush vetoed this bill, it would be the first thing he has EVER vetoed.

[redskins4life234]

Remember people, If the president Vetoes a bill, it can still be overturned by a 2/3rd vote from congress.

[Larry]

I find it hilarious that is Bush vetoed this bill, it would be the first thing he has EVER vetoed.

My prediction is that it'll be stage managed the same way Homeland Security was.

The GOP will fight against it, untill public opinion gets so set against it that they realise they're on the wrong side, politically.

They'll then decide that the way to go is to insert some rider onto the bill that the Democrats can't stand. Something like making it illegal for any gay to be within 100 miles of a coast or port. They'll make shure that the republican bill, with the rider, comes up for a vote, while the Democrat bill that was proposed first stays in committee.

Six months from now, every GOP member of Congress will be proudly taking credit for protecting our ports (after being forced into it), when the Democrats thought politics was more important.

[PleaseBlitz]

I find it hilarious that is Bush vetoed this bill, it would be the first thing he has EVER vetoed.


Shocker. Thats what happens when your party controls Congress. :)

[SkinsHokieFan]

I find it hilarious that is Bush vetoed this bill, it would be the first thing he has EVER vetoed.


And its a damn good bill to veto

For being "liberal" there sure is a lot of intolerance in the democratic party. I swear when I saw Mayor O'Malley speak I thought he was about to say "no damn sand ******s will ever control this port!"

[chomerics]

I don't see how trying to work with another gov't in terms of trade and commerce is "caring more about money then terrorism"

If anything, money is part of the answer to ending terror, and trade and commerce help in that

Glad you are finally on the right side of the argument though

Re-read what I said, the APPEARANCE, not the reality. It is what I am harping about all the time on here with propaganda. Most Americans don't take time to read the truth, and fall for the first thing that makes sense to them, this is a perfect example.

I agree with the rest of your post, why do you agree with Iraq then if you think the way to defeat terrorism is through the wallet, not thruogh the scope of a gun?

[SkinsHokieFan]

Re-read what I said, the APPEARANCE, not the reality. It is what I am harping about all the time on here with propaganda. Most Americans don't take time to read the truth, and fall for the first thing that makes sense to them, this is a perfect example.


And that APPEARANCE is a good thing? How?

[Chief skin]

Too bad Bush hasnt broke anylaws meaning he isnt goign to have an impeachment trial. Also congress is controlled my Republicans, meaning they Wouldn't impeach him or find him guilty if for some reason they did. So with that.. SHut up everyone with the "Impeach Bush" Crap as it wont happen unless he breaks some major law.

And before anyone says it, the wiretapping, he didnt break any laws doing that.


A small organization by the name of the American Bar Association seems to think his royal highness has broken the law on the warrantless wiretapping. Come November his GOP buddies in Congress may all get thrown out courtesy of his past screwups. So never say never

[chomerics]

And that APPEARANCE is a good thing? How?

It turns more people against the man, and the morons running the country, anything that hurts Bush in the polls is good for the country in the long term.

[PokerPacker]

It turns more people against the man, and the morons running the country, anything that hurts Bush in the polls is good for the country in the long term.
chom, what you just said is biggest problem i have with dems. i hope something bad happens so that people will dislike bush :rolleyes:

[SkinsHokieFan]

chom, what you just said is biggest problem i have with dems. i hope something bad happens so that people will dislike bush :rolleyes:


Exactly what I was thinking

[Seabee1973]

It might be an arab corporation but it is owned by an american

[visionary]

Thanks cuz every Arab and Muslim in this country has blown **** up

My God, some of these arguments from so called liberals shows incredible intolerance


I think the arguments so far (on the most part) go something like this...Bush=Traitor, Arabs=Evil, Muslims=Untrustworthy.

[#98QBKiller]

It turns more people against the man, and the morons running the country, anything that hurts Bush in the polls is good for the country in the long term.




Amen brother. It's amazing how many people are adamant about supporting the Bush administration when they've ****ed up this country beyond belief.

Even Republicans in Congress are getting sick of the administration's **** and are speaking out against it....but that could have something to do with wanting to be seperated from Bush's blunders before the Presidential Election in 2008.

[Sarge]

I find it hilarious that is Bush vetoed this bill, it would be the first thing he has EVER vetoed.

Something is wrong with the universe. You and I agree on something twice in one week :D

[Sarge]

You know, on top of everything, the Dems have an opportunity here.

Too bad they don't know what it is or how to take advantage of it, except to think like Chom

[Prosperity]

Well, spewing aside, I can't see how this move makes any sense at all.

~Bang

One firm bid higher than another. Pretty simple.

[Thiebear]

Someone with a brain give me in brief:

What the background is:
Who currently controls the ports
Who currently controls the ports that ship to these ports
Who is buying whom?? who...
Who is in charge of the ports security
What the UAE will be hiring/in charge of.

THEN after learning something other than:
(Those dirty A-RABS, will Own the port).
Post your thoughts.

i know its silly, but give it a try...



UAE firm a player in industry increasingly run by foreigners
By William M. Welch, USA TODAY
The United Arab Emirates firm that has a deal to operate terminals at six U.S. port cities is a major player in an industry increasingly controlled by foreign companies.
Dubai Ports World is owned by the tiny nation on the Persian Gulf and is headed by a sultan educated in the United States.

It operates terminals in the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Germany, Romania, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Djibouti, India, China, Malaysia, South Korea and Australia, according to its website.

Its purchase of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co. is what has Congress urging an investigation.

P&O, as it is known in the shipping world, is a British company that operates terminals in New York, Newark, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Miami and New Orleans. Dubai Ports World's purchase of P&O would give it a significant presence in the U.S. maritime trade market.

The Dubai company would not control all the shipments through those ports but would operate terminals at each location — up to 30% of the terminals at any one port, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

Security for U.S. ports rests with law enforcement agencies and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, through the Coast Guard, Immigration and Customs Enforcement and others. The Dubai Ports World terminals would have to comply with all security measures imposed on U.S. ports.




SO if it already operates ports in:
the Dominican Republic, Venezuela, Germany, Romania, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Djibouti, India, China, Malaysia, South Korea and Australia, according to its website.

Common sense would tell you we should be examining the INCOMING shipments FROM there.. As they would have been the places to import a nuke or some such other device. IF we've been receiving packages from there for xyz number of years then you would think a trust has been established between the two countries that should be rewarded.

[gchwood]

Why am I the only one not worried about this? First have we had any threats from the UAE? Second when did the Coast Guard relenquish control of the security of these ports? Third do you think that they are going to import the populous of their country to work the docks, or are the same guys from Brooklyn going to work the docks in NYC? Fourth is this really about oil, when the UAE controls so little of the worlds oil?

[Kilmer17]

Why am I the only one not worried about this? First have we had any threats from the UAE? Second when did the Coast Guard relenquish control of the security of these ports? Third do you think that they are going to import the populous of their country to work the docks, or are the same guys from Brooklyn going to work the docks in NYC? Fourth is this really about oil, when the UAE controls so little of the worlds oil?


You're not. There are plenty of us who can see through the spin.

A few points to those up in arms about this.

Michael Savage agrees with you. If that's not enough to make you realize how wrong you are......


Also, how loud would the left be screaming if Haliburton got into this business and got the contract?

Finally, why are the same people who fought like hell over fingerprinting and background checks for airport screeners, now supporting the profiling of an entire race?

Would this be an issue if a Dutch company was taking over?

[BlueTalon]

I think many of you are missing the comedy. Any story that puts Frist, Laura Ingraham, Hillary and Maureen Dowd against Bush and Carter is going to produce an interesting show!

So if you can, unplug your emotions and just enjoy the ride on this one.
:pint: :munchout:


gchwood, you're not the only one not worried.