Jets released their all pro C

[jbooma]

Kevin Mawae has been cut according to ESPN Radio in NY.

[Skins11]

Wow. If we didn't have Rabach...

Hey, we are going to release Raymer right? He sucks anyway. Wouldn't hurt to get an all-pro to back up Rabach. :)

[Hooper]

Yeah, too bad we're 17 mil over the cap.

He'll go to the Eagles.

[Westbrook36]

The Hank Fraley era is over.

[Number5]

That's a wrap!

[RabidFan]

He's damn good too.

[jimster]

maybe Randy can do a little recruiting.

[Westbrook36]

How funny would it be if Andy signed him and Hutch and the Eagles became a primarily running team in 06? :laugh:

[tr1]

maybe Randy can do a little recruiting.


And we're going to pay him with what? :D

[Westbrook36]

And we're going to pay him with what? :D

What are you talking about? Are the Skins in cap trouble? Just a few weeks ago we had a 10 page thread where you said the Eagles could learn a few things from the Skins on how to manage the cap. What happened? :(

[tr1]

What are you talking about? Are the Skins in cap trouble? Just a few weeks ago we had a 10 page thread where you said the Eagles could learn a few things from the Skins on how to manage the cap. What happened? :(


WB, please spare me. Your short term gain is our path to eternal dominance.

Now who's gonna spend more in the future? Laurie or Snyder?

Be truthful now.

[TerpsEagles]

WB, please spare me. Your short term gain is our path to eternal dominance.

Now who's gonna spend more in the future? Laurie or Snyder?

Be truthful now.

and we all know that big spending by the Skins have been the key to their recent sucess. Is Deion or Bruce still on the Skins books ? How about Trotter ?

my point being that the team that spends the most doesn't equal the team that wins necessarily.

You continue to insinuate that spending = success.

[Ken]

WB, please spare me. Your short term gain is our path to eternal dominance.

Now who's gonna spend more in the future? Laurie or Snyder?

Be truthful now.


What does that matter? The redskins don't know how to build a football team for longevity. They think draft picks are useless and high priced FA's are gold.

In the 90s, the Cowboys built through the draft and added the pieces in free agency to put them over the top.

Will Snyder be smart enough to practice good football logic? Doubtful. Good season or not last year, he has a lot to learn.

Ask the Yankees how many championships they have won since they have forgone the cultivate your own stategy.....

[waterwagen]

and we all know that big spending by the Skins have been the key to their recent sucess. Is Deion still on the Skins books ?

my point being that the team that spends the most doesn't equal the team that wins necessarily.

You continue to insinuate that spending = success.Because coaching has nothing to do with success... :rolleyes:

[TerpsEagles]

Because coaching has nothing to do with success... :rolleyes:

Well damn.. I wasn't aware that Gibbs has won the SB every year he's been in the league. Thanks for clearing that up.

[tr1]

and we all know that big spending by the Skins have been the key to their recent sucess. Is Deion or Bruce still on the Skins books ? How about Trotter ?

my point being that the team that spends the most doesn't equal the team that wins necessarily.

You continue to insinuate that spending = success.

Wow...I can appreciate your wanting to live in the past (having not made the playoffs last year), but you're citing pre-Gibbs II spending.

You should be afraid if there is no cap.

[waterwagen]

Well damn.. I wasn't aware that Gibbs has won the SB every year he's been in the league. Thanks for clearing that up.You're right - he only has 3 more than your whole franchise and is in the HOF. My bad.

[tr1]

What does that matter? The redskins don't know how to build a football team for longevity. They think draft picks are useless and high priced FA's are gold.

In the 90s, the Cowboys built through the draft and added the pieces in free agency to put them over the top.

Will Snyder be smart enough to practice good football logic? Doubtful. Good season or not last year, he has a lot to learn.

Ask the Yankees how many championships they have won since they have forgone the cultivate your own stategy.....

Another voice from a fan whose team didn't make the playoffs last year...maybe the pukes should have spent a few more bucks last year, eh?

I'm thinking back to the JCK era. He had the wallet and we had the wins.

[sableholic]

Well damn.. I wasn't aware that Gibbs has won the SB every year he's been in the league. Thanks for clearing that up.

see everyone elses comments on this. Sorry, but Norv and Spurrier != Gibbs.

[TerpsEagles]

You're right - he only has 3 more than your whole franchise and is in the HOF. My bad.

way to contribute to the actual discussion at hand buddy...

Skins fan: "oooooooooooooo we have 3 Super Bowls..... ooooooooooooo I got you !!!!"

Did you know that you're the first person to use that one on me. You're a witty one I can tell.

[Ken]

see everyone elses comments on this. Sorry, but Norv and Spurrier != Gibbs.
Gibbs is so good they had to surround him with 10 million dollars worth of coaches.

Please. The Redskins success last year was directly attibuted to the DC.

Period.

Gibbs is overmatched, IMO.

[TerpsEagles]

Another voice from a fan whose team didn't make the playoffs last year...maybe the pukes should have spent a few more bucks last year, eh?

I'm thinking back to the JCK era. He had the wallet and we had the wins.

why do you keep bringing up the Skins one playoff win, and two playoff games as if it is an accomplishment, when all you do is criticize the Eagles for winning plenty of playoff games, but not the SB ?

[tr1]

way to contribute to the actual discussion at hand buddy...

Skins fan: "oooooooooooooo we have 3 Super Bowls..... ooooooooooooo I got you !!!!"

Did you know that you're the first person to use that one on me. You're a witty one I can tell.

You're a bit touch for a guy whose team is about to 'clean up' on free agency.

I guess there won't be any excuses not to win the SB this year, eh?

[tr1]

Gibbs is so good they had to surround him with 10 million dollars worth of coaches.

Please. The Redskins success last year was directly attibuted to the DC.

Period.

Gibbs is overmatched, IMO.

Now you're spouting non-sense. Gibbs is a HOF coach. If you wish to troll, go someplace else.

[TerpsEagles]

You're a bit touch for a guy whose team is about to 'clean up' on free agency.

I guess there won't be any excuses not to win the SB this year, eh?

how is that touchy ? I was commenting on the 'ol... "how many sb lines"...

yawn

actually I would say you're posts are the touchy ones... you're replying to my post directed at another poster....

[Oldskool]

I heard Mawae on the radio last night talking about him possibly being cut by the Jets and he was already resigned to the fact that it was a done deal.

Not a shock to him, his agent or anyone else for that matter.

[kreitmaster]

This guy used to go to my country club. Pretty nice guy.

[tr1]

why do you keep bringing up the Skins one playoff win, and two playoff games as if it is an accomplishment, when all you do is criticize the Eagles for winning plenty of playoff games, but not the SB ?

I bring the Skins playoff win because IT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.

Last year, the Eagles were 6-10...not that's great cap management.

[tr1]

how is that touchy ? I was commenting on the 'ol... "how many sb lines"...

yawn

actually I would say you're posts are the touchy ones... you're replying to my post directed at another poster....


Well, are you gonna win the SB with all of the talent littered around for you to pick up?

[TerpsEagles]

Wow...I can appreciate your wanting to live in the past (having not made the playoffs last year), but you're citing pre-Gibbs II spending.

You should be afraid if there is no cap.

why should I be afraid... I'm just a fan of a team... I have no control of what happens....

[tr1]

why should I be afraid... I'm just a fan of a team... I have no control of what happens....

Sounds like a casual fan with little faith...

Edit: Apologies...I should not criticize a fellow poster...

My bad...

[TerpsEagles]

Well, are you gonna win the SB with all of the talent littered around for you to pick up?

for the last time tr1, I don't play in the NFL... I am not a Philadelphia Eagle...I am a fan. Period.

So to answer your question, no, I won't win the SB.

Will the Eagles, I have no effing idea. It's freakin March 2nd. Do the Eagles have a first round bye ?

[LaRonLandryFan]

How funny would it be if Andy signed him and Hutch and the Eagles became a primarily running team in 06? :laugh:
I think Donnovon McNabb in his prime has something to say to that...

:rolleyes:

[TerpsEagles]

I bring the Skins playoff win because IT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.

Last year, the Eagles were 6-10...not that's great cap management.

super. tr1, you get a gold star today. Be proud.

Now, how does either the Eagles being 6-10, or the Skins finally making the playoff again fit into this present offseason and the upcoming '06 season.

It doesn't. Keep on trying though, it's really all you have today.

And honestly, the fact that you even mention "cap management" on today of all days... in some attempt to slam the Eagles... is really, REALLY funny.

How are the Skins doing by the way... have they gotten it down to 16 million over yet ?

[TaylorPickSix]

yikes. this is truely going to be a bloody day. teams with cap room must be licking their chops right now at the free agent class that will improve tenfold after this day.

[tr1]

super. tr1, you get a gold star today. Be proud.

Now, how does either the Eagles being 6-10, or the Skins finally making the playoff again fit into this present offseason and the upcoming '06 season.

It doesn't. Keep on trying though, it's really all you have today.

And honestly, the fact that you even mention "cap management" on today of all days... in some attempt to slam the Eagles... is really, REALLY funny.

How are the Skins doing by the way... have they gotten it down to 16 million over yet ?

Did you know this was going to happen? A year ago?

Those teams who chose to spend their alloted cap, spent it believing that there would be a CBA going into the future.

All the Eagles are doing today is reaping the benefits of causing player unrest by NOT spending the money allocated on players. The players didn't bargain for them to do that...and now we all pay.

[TerpsEagles]

You're funny.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

[Number5]

All the Eagles are doing today is reaping the benefits of causing player unrest by NOT spending the money allocated on players. The players didn't bargain for them to do that...and now we all pay.


IT'S CALLED BUSINESS! Sheesh do you think the NFL is a friendly picnic?

[Westbrook36]

Gibbs is overmatched, tr1. It's not 1985 anymore. His offense has been a joke since he has been back. Saunders might help though....if you don't have to start cutting starting offensive linemen.

[tr1]

Gibbs is overmatched, tr1. It's not 1985 anymore. His offense has been a joke since he has been back. Saunders might help though....if you don't have to start cutting starting offensive linemen.

The next time someone defends you over in the stadium, I'll point them over to your statement here.

Actually, why don't you go ahead and post this over in the stadium... :laugh:

[Westbrook36]

The next time someone defends you over in the stadium, I'll point them over to your statement here.

Actually, why don't you go ahead and post this over in the stadium... :laugh:

It is my honest opinion. Why hire Saunders if Gibbs still has the mojo with the offense? Why change course in the middle. I'm sure hiring an OC wasn't Gibbs intention when he first came back....

Two years later, he rethinks it and bam, you have an OC.

[TheREALJBird]

How funny would it be if Andy signed him and Hutch and the Eagles became a primarily running team in 06? :laugh:

The most running the Eagles do during a game is when they're heading out of the tunnel :laugh:

[Number5]

The next time someone defends you over in the stadium, I'll point them over to your statement here.

Actually, why don't you go ahead and post this over in the stadium... :laugh:


I'm containing myself from saying this, but I can't..... :mad: :mad: :mad:


This is the most ______, most punk, most______ _______ statement I've ever seen from you. This is something a ______ would post dude.....and not that I'm saying your a _______, but as a former Eagles once said...


"If he smells like a rat and looks like a rat.....well, you know the rest."

[Number5]

The most running the Eagles do during a game is when they're heading out of the tunnel :laugh:

No, actually that would have been by Bruce Perry's 1st half against you guys! :laugh: :laugh:

[tr1]

It is my honest opinion. Why hire Saunders if Gibbs still has the mojo with the offense? Why change course in the middle. I'm sure hiring an OC wasn't Gibbs intention when he first came back....

Two years later, he rethinks it and bam, you have an OC.

I think you need to look at other offensive coaches to see a drop off in quality. The OC wasn't hired to replace Gibbs...but he will be cutting into others' duties.

What's Andy's excuse for not hiring an OC?

[tr1]

I'm containing myself from saying this, but I can't..... :mad: :mad: :mad:


This is the most ______, most punk, most______ _______ statement I've ever seen from you. This is something a ______ would post dude.....and not that I'm saying your a _______, but as a former Eagles once said...


"If he smells like a rat and looks like a rat.....well, you know the rest."

Another great contribution, #5...thanks for the input.

[Number5]

I think you need to look at other offensive coaches to see a drop off in quality. The OC wasn't hired to replace Gibbs...but he will be cutting into others' duties.

What's Andy's excuse for not hiring an OC?


Ahhhh.......he did hire an OC. :doh:

[tr1]

No, actually that would have been by Bruce Perry's 1st half against you guys! :laugh: :laugh:

That was in your loss, right? On our way to the playoffs?

[tr1]

Ahhhh.......he did hire an OC. :doh:

I believe I saw Andy making all the calls last year...in fact, I remember you criticizing him for his playcalling...

Right?

[Westbrook36]

I think you need to look at other offensive coaches to see a drop off in quality. The OC wasn't hired to replace Gibbs...but he will be cutting into others' duties.

What's Andy's excuse for not hiring an OC?

Andy had Childress for years and promoted Morningweg to replace him. For how much you obsess over the Eagles, you really don't know the basics.

[ECU-ALUM]

The most running the Eagles do during a game is when they're heading out of the tunnel :laugh:


:laugh:

[Westbrook36]

I believe I saw Andy making all the calls last year...in fact, I remember you criticizing him for his playcalling...

Right?

Who says the OC calls the plays? Is this another rule that you apply to all teams in the NFL in the tr1 world of what is right to do?

[Number5]

Another great contribution, #5...thanks for the input.


If you gonna act like a ______, then don't get mad when someone calls you out on it. Remember, you're the ________ who threatened like some girl scout to put Westy on blast for a comment pertaining to this thread.


"The next time someone defends you over in the stadium, I'll point them over to your statement here."...........way to go Champ :rolleyes:

Besides, if you really want to get technical, the only things you've accomplished in this forum has been to be a constant source of laughs......


Like this one...bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahaha......................wait............b whahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[TheREALJBird]

No, actually that would have been by Bruce Perry's 1st half against you guys! :laugh: :laugh:

Such a shame that the local is on the rival's team....I hope you guys run more next year though, I'd like to play you guys with Westbrook at his best

[tr1]

Andy had Childress for years and promoted Morningweg to replace him. For how much you obsess over the Eagles, you really don't know the basics.


I should have said that he might think about going outside the organization.

Didn't you, too, criticize AR for passing too much last year? :doh:

Before you start point fingers at Gibbs, you need to check your own team...we did make the playoffs after all... :laugh:

[Number5]

That was in your loss, right? On our way to the playoffs?


Yep.....the same game where you let a 4th string running back exploit your dominating, suffocating, death defying defense....


Yep.....it was that game.

[Number5]

I believe I saw Andy making all the calls last year...in fact, I remember you criticizing him for his playcalling...

Right?

Ahhhh....Brad Childress was, Marty M is now.....

shall I post you the links?

[tr1]

Yep.....the same game where you let a 4th string running back exploit your dominating, suffocating, death defying defense....


Yep.....it was that game.

Gee...how'd we manage to win?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[TheREALJBird]

Im thinkin there needs to be a steel cage match with tr1, WB36, and number5, triple threat match, maybe that would stop the ongoing war lol

[ECU-ALUM]

Ahhhh....Brad Childress was, Marty M is now.....

shall I post you the links?


Marty M...if Reid is smart he will never let him make the call for an overtime toss.

[Number5]

Such a shame that the local is on the rival's team....I hope you guys run more next year though, I'd like to play you guys with Westbrook at his best


Local......he went to a Philly high school. Ben Franklin I believe.....but yeah....I'll second that....it always seems at least lately that when the two teams play neither is at fully strength.


Here's to a healthy set of games between the two next year! :cheers:

[TheREALJBird]

Local......he went to a Philly high school. Ben Franklin I believe.....but yeah....I'll second that....it always seems at least lately that when the two teams play neither is at fully strength.


Here's to a healthy set of games between the two next year! :cheers:

Bruce Perry played at UMD, that's what I meant by local

[Number5]

Gee...how'd we manage to win?
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

An interception for a return by our 3rd string QB I believe....

And RealJ.....I think that would be a good idea, chances are though that WB36 and I would jump tr1 so you might wanna make it a hadi-capped match. Hell, tr1 can even have Daniel Synder as his manager ala Jimmy "The Mouth". He can even have a jacket on that says, "BIG SPENDER"!

[Number5]

Bruce Perry played at UMD, that's what I meant by local


Yeah, my cousin graduated from UMD with a degree in Film. Said him and Bruce used to hang out. Says he deserves more if it wasn't for the injuries.

[KingGibbs]

Gibbs is overmatched, tr1. It's not 1985 anymore. His offense has been a joke since he has been back. Saunders might help though....if you don't have to start cutting starting offensive linemen.

I didn't see a problem when we ran up a 30+ spot on all three of our division rivals in successive games. This, with your defenses only having to key in on Moss and Cooley in the passing game. We also jumped from I believe 31st in offense in 2004 to 11th in 2005?

Like I said before. Reid isn't coaching against Spurrier or Norval. The free ride was over last year. Gibbs got his ears wet and is ready to show Eagles fans what it's like to hoist a Lombardi, AGAIN! It hurt's, doesn't it?

[HeHateMe]

How funny would it be if Andy signed him and Hutch and the Eagles became a primarily running team in 06? :laugh:

Eagles wont be landing either of them.

[waterwagen]

way to contribute to the actual discussion at hand buddy...

Skins fan: "oooooooooooooo we have 3 Super Bowls..... ooooooooooooo I got you !!!!"

Did you know that you're the first person to use that one on me. You're a witty one I can tell.Ok, a little logic lesson here. Your statement insinuated that Gibbs being the head coach had no effect on the team. My statement refuted this by reminding you of what should be obvious - Gibbs has proven himself. Spurrier, Marty, etc had not.

[waterwagen]

Gibbs is overmatched, tr1. It's not 1985 anymore. His offense has been a joke since he has been back. Saunders might help though....if you don't have to start cutting starting offensive linemen.Is that why it was number 11 in the league last year? Yeah, that stinks.

[waterwagen]

It is my honest opinion. Why hire Saunders if Gibbs still has the mojo with the offense? Why change course in the middle. I'm sure hiring an OC wasn't Gibbs intention when he first came back....

Two years later, he rethinks it and bam, you have an OC.How many teams DON'T have an OC in this day and age? It's not that his offensive skills have diminished, it's that he came back and realized how many more facets there are to managing a team these days. Gibbs has no pride - if he thinks Al Saunders will add that little bit to get the Skins over the top, he'll go get him. And he did.

[HeHateMe]

Mawae and Fabini will look nice donning the Star on their helmet. :)

[portis&taylor]

Wow he is pretty good thats gotta hurt.

[skinz1972]

Eagles wont be landing either of them.the eagles can get him................in MADDEN 2006

[Y100Rocks]

Like I said before. Reid isn't coaching against Spurrier or Norval. The free ride was over last year. Gibbs got his ears wet and is ready to show Eagles fans what it's like to hoist a Lombardi, AGAIN! It hurt's, doesn't it?

:laugh:

You think any Eagles fan is here out of fear of the redskins? The Eagles only need to worry about what the Eagles need to do. Making those who think like you do realize this is why I'm around.

[waterwagen]

:laugh:

You think any Eagles fan is here out of fear of the redskins? The Eagles only need to worry about what the Eagles need to do. Making those who think like you do realize this is why I'm around.Your team is in shambles - you'd BETTER only focus on yourselves or things are going to be ugly for you for a long time.

[DieHardWSHfan]

Throughout this deathmatch, nobody points out the obvious. The Eagles did suck last year, but that was mainly due to injuries with Westbrook and McNabb, not to mention the whole Owens ordeal. While most teams do suffer losses, these key losses contributed massively to their 6-10 record last season.
Next point: Gibbs being overrated? Not really. While he did earn those SB rings a while ago, he has improved the Redskins franchise. Our offense was 11th in the league, and while that may not make Gibbs the best, it sure doesnt imply that he is overrated. Also, it was only his 2nd year back, lay off him.
Next point: Bruce Perry running all over us? He had 15 attempts for 70 yards, an average of 4.7 yards. Good? Possibly, lets call it decent. His longest run was only for 11 yards, and he didn't even break the 100-yard mark. If that is the best counter-attack for the Eagle's loss that day, that is pretty sad.
Last Point: Gibbs got Saunders. So what? That doesn't diminish the fact that Gibbs is great. You conclude that this means Gibbs is overrated. How about the logic that while one cookie is good, two is great. Coaches don't count against the cap, and in my opinion, the fact that Snyder has the money to exploit this rule is a strength, not a flaw. Our Offense choked against Tampa and Seattle. Yes, we know this, Redskins fans are actually known to watch Redskin games. However, this was after repeated slaughterings of all 3 division rivals, and a long, exhausting winning streak.

[TaylorPickSix]

looks like he's gone for good now, via ESPN2 Trey Wingo and ESPN Sportscenter bottom line.
Sucks for the jets.

and per KFFL.com

Jets | Mawae officially released
Sun, 5 Mar 2006 15:29:48 -0800

NewYorkJets.com reports the New York Jets have officially released OC Kevin Mawae.

[kingfish50]

What does that matter? The redskins don't know how to build a football team for longevity. They think draft picks are useless and high priced FA's are gold.

In the 90s, the Cowboys built through the draft and added the pieces in free agency to put them over the top.

Will Snyder be smart enough to practice good football logic? Doubtful. Good season or not last year, he has a lot to learn.

Ask the Yankees how many championships they have won since they have forgone the cultivate your own stategy.....
Boy, have you got a lot to learn about Joe Gibbs. He runs the football ops. now, not Dan Snyder. He supplys the money.
I really hope that there isn't a CBA agreement. Remember, the Redskins dominated the NFC thru the 80's under Gibbs and where were the philthy eagles all that time? They shared the bottom of the division every year with the cardinals. The two of you made good bed fellas.
Joe Gibbs will not try to get Dan to buy a Super Bowl as you insinuate. You'll never see Joe Gibbs go out and try to buy that mecenary, self centered T.O. like your silly asses did. Our moneys will be used to retain the players that Joe Gibbs deems neccesary to keep team continuity and success, not buy a Super Bowl.
With or without a cap, the Redskins will dominate the NFC East again. You had the last 5 years to accomplish something great and each and every year your team has failed. You have a divided team and a head coach who can't manage a play clock to save his life along with a cheap owner. If your owner won't spend the cap limit now (and don't give me this good management bit. It's being cheap), how do you think he'll spend with no cap?
I was going to say that the best you can ever hope for is a wildcard spot but hell, even the giants are a better team than you are. Your days for making a run at the Super Bowl are over. Mark my words.
:eaglesuck :eaglesuck :eaglesuck :eaglesuck :eaglesuck :eaglesuck