Si : Eagles Poised To Make Splash!

[Number5]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/03/02/bc.fbn.eagles.freeagenc.ap/index.html




PHILADELPHIA (AP) -- The Philadelphia Eagles are more likely to add another Jevon Kearse than a Mike McMahon during this offseason.

While some teams have been forced to cut quality players to fit under the salary cap, the Eagles are positioned to make significant additions once the NFL's free agency period begins Friday.

A breakdown of talks between owners and the players' union for a new collective bargaining agreement left the 2006 salary cap at $94.5 million for now, about $10 million to $15 million less than anticipated.

But instead of slashing salaries like others, the Eagles still have room under the cap to aggressively pursue free agents after a miserable season in which they went from losing the Super Bowl to finishing last in the NFC East with a 6-10 record.

The Eagles have a history of getting players they target.

In 2004, after losing their third straight NFC championship game, the Eagles signed Kearse -- the premier defensive end available -- to a $66 million, eight-year deal on the first day of the free agency period.

Two weeks later, Philadelphia acquired Terrell Owens in a complicated trade after his former agent botched the star wide receiver's free agency status.

It was the biggest offseason spending spree in team history and the result was a trip to the Super Bowl.

Last year, however, the Eagles didn't make any major moves in free agency. They signed McMahon as a third-string quarterback and he ended up starting the final seven games after Donovan McNabb decided to have season-ending surgery for a sports hernia. McMahon played poorly and Philadelphia could be looking to upgrade that position.

The Eagles have several needs they will try to address before the draft in April. They are searching for help on both lines, at wide receiver, at running back and at linebacker.

Among the players Philadelphia could be interested in are three Seahawks players -- guard Steve Hutchinson, defensive tackle Rocky Bernard and wideout Joe Jurevicius. They also could go after Steelers wideout Antwaan Randle El, Panthers linebacker Will Witherspoon and Broncos running back Mike Anderson.

Hutchinson would be an ideal fit, especially if Philadelphia doesn't re-sign right tackle Jon Runyan. Seattle has the right to match any offer made to him, but would get no compensation if he signs elsewhere.

Bernard, who had 81/2 sacks last season, would bolster the middle of a defensive line that hardly got a strong push on quarterbacks.

Randle El (35 catches, 558 yards, 1 TD) not only would give the Eagles a solid No. 3 receiver behind Reggie Brown and Todd Pinkston, but he'd solidify the punt returning spot. Jurevicius (55-694-10) is an outstanding third receiver.

Witherspoon (81 tackles, 21/2 sacks, two interceptions) would fit nicely as a replacement for weakside linebacker Keith Adams, who was a disappointment as a starter and will be a free agent.

Anderson might be a good complement to Brian Westbrook since he shared time with Tatum Bell in Denver. Anderson led the Broncos with 1,014 yards rushing on 239 carries and scored 12 TDs, but was cut for financial reasons.

At least the Eagles don't have to worry about losing too many important players of their own in free agency. Runyan and Adams are the only starters expected to test the market.

Runyan has started every game since joining Philadelphia in 2000, but he's 32 and the Eagles tend to avoid giving long-term deals to players over 30. It's possible he could return depending on his other offers.

Adams probably won't be back unless he's willing to play only on special teams. Other unrestricted free agents are: safety Jack Brewer, linebacker Justin Ena, running back Lamar Gordon, defensive end N.D. Kalu, punter Sean Landeta, tight end Chad Lewis, wide receiver Darnerien McCants, and defensive end Juqua Thomas.

Cornerback Rod Hood, punter Dirk Johnson, safety Quintin Mikell and running back Reno Mahe are restricted free agents. Each player was tendered a one-year contract on Thursday, giving the Eagles the right to match another team's offer. Hood got the midlevel tender -- $1.5 million -- so the Eagles would receive a first-round pick if he signs with another team.

The Eagles' biggest mistake in free agency in recent years was allowing defensive end Derrick Burgess to sign with Oakland last year. Burgess led the NFL with 16 sacks last season.

Besides Runyan, other prominent free agents the Eagles have signed under owner Jeffrey Lurie are running back Ricky Watters (1995) and cornerback Troy Vincent (1996).

Copyright 2006 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[Eagle091]

nice article

[ratbert_rizzo]

This is just funny to read now.

[jrockster21]

This is just funny to read now.


Hahahahahahahahaha

[Rick James]Coooolllld blooded[/Rick James]

[Never21Forgotten36]

HAHA, thats priceless.

[mboyd784]

Any real Philly fan will tell you that none of the guys in that article are any good. If Philly didn't draft them, they are overrated.

[kevinklein]

Philly fans seem to be keeping their cool around these parts this offseason. Same with the Giants fans.

The Cowboys fans seem to be falling from the sky though!

[Ken]

Philly fans seem to be keeping their cool around these parts this offseason. Same with the Giants fans.

The Cowboys fans seem to be falling from the sky though!
That's because of stupid threads like "Roy Williams Sucks" and "Parcells is Mad" blah blah blah.

Just garbage topics that can't go unresponded to.

[GOSKINS_08]

The eagles did "make a splash" didn't they? They signed...umm..ummmm.Who was it? Ummm. ummm. Oh yeah nobody.

[Who Del]

We've yet to make our splash. My inside sources have spoken with me. We have something HUGE in store. :)

[WinSkins]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

This is your brain on drugs!!!!!!!!! Hope they have the required number of lifejackets on board!

[ratbert_rizzo]

Darren Howard and Jabar Gaffney. Excuse me while I yawn. Not that either was a bad signing in and of itself its just that their whole free agent class has no impact players and they didn't even use up the salary cap. At least front load a couple deals to make the numbers work. Well, better for us then.

[shallyshal]

We've yet to make our splash. My inside sources have spoken with me. We have something HUGE in store. :)


with what is left in free agency i think that is far fetched... on the other hand the eagles love to move around inthe draft and it would not surprise me to see the make a strong move up inthe draft to target a particular player.

they seem to have gone into shock when they lost bentley

[dockeryfan]

they seem to have gone into shock when they lost bentley
Isn't that the truth.

[mboyd784]

We've yet to make our splash. My inside sources have spoken with me. We have something HUGE in store. :)

I'm sure Philly will take a shot at LA. Not actually sign him, but posture a bunch so the fans are at least distacted a bit.

[tr1]

We've yet to make our splash. My inside sources have spoken with me. We have something HUGE in store. :)

Well, they have enough friggin' draft choices. If they can't manage to move up in the draft, they really are idiots.

[Shotgunner]

Philly still can be a force in the East.
However, nothing the Skins can't handle.

[TerpsEagles]

Well, they have enough friggin' draft choices. If they can't manage to move up in the draft, they really are idiots.

yeah, right ? Because the Eagles NEVER move up in the draft.

Gotta say, many of you Skins fans are putting A LOT of stock in your theory that the Eagles lack of "splash" in free agency will directly translate to their play on the field.

I guess we'll see soon enough. Gonna be a fun season that's for sure.

[Pocono]

The Skins had FA splash and the Eagles lacked FA splash. Huh.

OL-Eagles re-sign FA Runyan and Skins sign 2 scrubs...advantage Eagles

QB- Eagles upgrade with Garcia over McMahon and Skins downgrade from Ramsey to Collins....advantage Eagles

TE- Eagles upgrade with a 27 yr old back up pass catching threat and the Skins downgrade from Royal to a 35 yr old 3rd stringer from NE....advantage Eagles

DE- Eagles add DE with 14 sacks the past 2 years whose former team liked so much they made him their franchise player 2 years in a row and the Skins add a DE whose former team loved his DE skills so much they made a LBer out of him.....advantage Eagles

WR- Eagles and Skins add FA WRs whose yards per season over their careers are almost the same but ARE has great special team skills that give him an edge....advantage Skins

S/LB- Skins add a SS whose stats indicate he covers like a LB and hits like a CB when you really want the opposite and the Eagles add a LB who is very good when healthy but will probably end up on IR so... advantage Skins.

It looks like 4 to 2 to me. Skins did make a trade but that's not FA splash. I wonder when we get to the draft who will win the second half of the off season with the Eagles making 7 picks before the Skins make their second pick?

[ratbert_rizzo]

The Skins had FA splash and the Eagles lacked FA splash. Huh.

OL-Eagles re-sign FA Runyan and Skins sign 2 scrubs...advantage Eagles

QB- Eagles upgrade with Garcia over McMahon and Skins downgrade from Ramsey to Collins....advantage Eagles

TE- Eagles upgrade with a 27 yr old back up pass catching threat and the Skins downgrade from Royal to a 35 yr old 3rd stringer from NE....advantage Eagles

DE- Eagles add DE with 14 sacks the past 2 years whose former team liked so much they made him their franchise player 2 years in a row and the Skins add a DE whose former team loved his DE skills so much they made a LBer out of him.....advantage Eagles

WR- Eagles and Skins add FA WRs whose yards per season over their careers are almost the same but ARE has great special team skills that give him an edge....advantage Skins

S/LB- Skins add a SS whose stats indicate he covers like a LB and hits like a CB when you really want the opposite and the Eagles add a LB who is very good when healthy but will probably end up on IR so... advantage Skins.

It looks like 4 to 2 to me. Skins did make a trade but that's not FA splash. I wonder when we get to the draft who will win the second half of the off season with the Eagles making 7 picks before the Skins make their second pick?

Um, why did we lose the O-line? We didn't need to add any starters and we kept Dockery anyway.

Backup TEs, who cares, Fauria is an upgrade over Royal short term anyway and Schobel is no great shakes to say the very least.
Archuleta is a HUGE hitter though he might cover like a LB, I don't really know for sure.

The Eagles didn't lose anybody except TO obviously but they only added Gaffney, Howard, Barber, Garcia, and Schobel. At the very least thats 2 backups and 3 starters. Only Howard is an above average starter. So bascically the Eagles only added Howard and the Skins went out and signed everybody we targeted to upgrade positions that needed upgrading.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

If re-signing Runyan counts, why doesn't re-signing Dockery?

I would say Dock + depth beats out Runyan alone, no?

[Maggio]

Let's look at this objectively, not withstanding of the draft because it hasn't happened. This is soley based on the moves in free agency.

OL-Eagles re-sign FA Runyan and Skins sign 2 scrubs...advantage Eagles

The Eagles resigned a starter back to their line which needed upgrading anyway (i.e. the pursuit of Bentley), while the Skins add depth to their line...advantage skins

QB- Eagles upgrade with Garcia over McMahon and Skins downgrade from Ramsey to Collins....advantage Eagles

As a straight up move, the replacement of Garcia over McMahon is greater than Collins for Ramsey (even if Campbell will be our #2) because McMahon was that bad....advantage Eagles

TE- Eagles upgrade with a 27 yr old back up pass catching threat and the Skins downgrade from Royal to a 35 yr old 3rd stringer from NE....advantage Eagles

Uhmmm, I really don't see how we can compare two different positions. A tight end in the west coast offense is completely different than a tight end in our system. In terms of how we use our tight ends, Christian is a big upgrade over Royal, better hands and a better blocker. How does Schoebel significantly make the Eagles better with LJ Smith there....large advantage
Skins.

DE- Eagles add DE with 14 sacks the past 2 years whose former team liked so much they made him their franchise player 2 years in a row and the Skins add a DE whose former team loved his DE skills so much they made a LBer out of him.....advantage Eagles

Howard is an injury waiting to happen, at an age 31, when things start to go wrong. Carter had one great season at DE and then was moved to a 3-4 by the genius none as Mike Nolan. Injuries and age versus the unknown because its been awhile since he played DE...slight advantage Eagles

WR- Eagles and Skins add FA WRs whose yards per season over their careers are almost the same but ARE has great special team skills that give him an edge....advantage Skins

One additional thing here, the Eagles lost their only pro bowl receiver, big play receiver, so from a skill perspective.....big advantage Skins (though I think you'll take it over having TO;) )

S/LB- Skins add a SS whose stats indicate he covers like a LB and hits like a CB when you really want the opposite and the Eagles add a LB who is very good when healthy but will probably end up on IR so... advantage Skins.

Agree, but more so as a slight advantage to skins. We still haven't added a WLB, so while our safety may be upgraded, we still have more questions while Eagles have a possible replacement if healthy.

What's that, 4-2 skins. That seems right, free agency is our draft; however, none of this really matters yet until after the draft. Then we should compare teams.

[barefoot]

2005 reg season; Skins' 5-1 vs. NFC East, 2-0 vs. Eagles
..............Advantage Redskins





PS. get used to it :helmet:

[scruffylookin]

The Skins had FA splash and the Eagles lacked FA splash. Huh.

OL-Eagles re-sign FA Runyan and Skins sign 2 scrubs...advantage Eagles

QB- Eagles upgrade with Garcia over McMahon and Skins downgrade from Ramsey to Collins....advantage Eagles

TE- Eagles upgrade with a 27 yr old back up pass catching threat and the Skins downgrade from Royal to a 35 yr old 3rd stringer from NE....advantage Eagles

DE- Eagles add DE with 14 sacks the past 2 years whose former team liked so much they made him their franchise player 2 years in a row and the Skins add a DE whose former team loved his DE skills so much they made a LBer out of him.....advantage Eagles

WR- Eagles and Skins add FA WRs whose yards per season over their careers are almost the same but ARE has great special team skills that give him an edge....advantage Skins

S/LB- Skins add a SS whose stats indicate he covers like a LB and hits like a CB when you really want the opposite and the Eagles add a LB who is very good when healthy but will probably end up on IR so... advantage Skins.

It looks like 4 to 2 to me. Skins did make a trade but that's not FA splash. I wonder when we get to the draft who will win the second half of the off season with the Eagles making 7 picks before the Skins make their second pick?

1. Runyan was a starter. The two scrubs are just that two scubs. You should have mentioned that the Skins resigned Derrick Dockery to ensure that their Oline will remain intact for 06.

2. While I agree that Garcia is an upgrade and Collins is a downgrade.....let's face it, if Garcia and Collins end up playing for Philly and the Skins respectively....we're both doomed. :silly:

3. Fauria is a blocker and will start. You guys signed a back up pass catcher. How is this advantage Eagles? Is Fauria an upgrade over Royal, for 06 probably, but long term yes it's a step back but I don't think the Eagles signing will make Gregg Williams sweat too much either.

4. First off, it's friggin Mike Nolan and his "brillant" staff that moved Carter. Seriously, you and I could coach better defense that those clowns. Howard is an injury prone DE who's time is nearing an end, Carter is a young DE who has shown skills in the past and is now coming to the best defensive staff in the league to get deprogrammed of all the crap Nolan did to him. If Howard is healthy, advantage Eagles in 06 however long term, advantage Redskins.

5. I agree with this except that I think Lloyd and ARE have a better chance to shine this season because of the Moss and Cooley threat on the field that defenses must account for. Philly does not have weapons who command that kind of respect just yet.

6. I think Archuleta is better than you give him credit for but since you're giving the Skins the advantage here I'll take it and say thank you. :silly:

So in the end who's upgraded their teams so far.

05 Weaknesses

Skins-
WR- they are now improved
Pass rushing DE- after years and years, they've finally got one

Eagles-
RB- Nothing done. Sorry but Westbrook,Buckhalter and Moats are not prime backs. Who's the guy you're gonna give the ball too 30 times a game in December when the playoffs are on the line? You can depend on McNabb for only so long, eventually you got to get him some help to balance that offense.

WR- Does Gaffney and the return of Peekaboo improve the Eagles? If they are inserted as the 3rd and 4th receivers because you're two youngsters are playing well, yes. But if they are starting because the two kid receivers don't step up, no , the Eagles will once again have a sorry WR corps.

Interior Line- Not addressed yet. The Bentley affair was a disaster for the franchise.....perhaps the draft will be where they address this hole.

Outside Linebacker- If healthy(big if), Barber is a stopgap. He's far from being a very good linebacker. No real improvement here.

Seems to me the Skins targeted areas of weakness and addressed them, the Eagles are once again thinking about all that cap space that their "brillant" FO got for them and have done very little to improve a last place team.

[Who Del]

Lol at Maggio and Pocono. Those were fairly "objective" reviews. Now lets really be objective shall we?

OL: Eagles sign Runyan while the Redskins added more depth. The Skins didn't need to add any starters. The Eagles have young players at OL. So both have pretty good lines with fairly decent depth. Advantage? Dead even. (maybe slight advantage Skins since the Eagles will be in transition on the line. Although it shouldn't hurt since we've been drafting OL for 2 years now.)

QB: Eagles signed Garcia, released McMahon. Redskins trade Ramsey and sign Collins. So lets review? The Eagles have McNabb. The Redskins have Brunell. The Eagles have Garcia. The Redskins have Campbell. The Eagles have Detmer. The Redskins have Collins. Advantage? Eagles. Only because the Skins have Campbell who is unproven. Detmer and Collins are about the same in my mind. McNabb over Brunell is a no brainer.

TE/H-Back: Eagles have Schoebel and Smith. Redskins have Fauria and Cooley. How many fans have heard of Matt Schoebel over Christian Fauria? I know I hadn't. Advantage? Dead even.

DE: Eagles signed Darren Howard to go along with Kearse. Redskins signed Andre Carter to go with Wynn and Daniels. Advantage? Should be Eagles but I'll say even since Howard is injury prone.

WR: Uh. Eagles signed Gaffney and McCants. Redskins signed Randle-El and make a trade for Lloyd. Advantage: Redskins.

LB/S: Eagles sign Shawn Barber while the Redskins sign Archuleta. Shawn Barber will probably miss more games than he plays. Archuleta is OK. Advantage? Skins.

So lets see thats. Redskins 2-1 with the rest being even. :)

[VaK9Trainer]

2005 reg season; Skins' 5-1 vs. NFC East, 2-0 vs. Eagles
..............Advantage Redskins





PS. get used to it :helmet:


The only facts that matter Baby!!! :eaglesuck

[TerpsEagles]

Howard is an injury waiting to happen, at an age 31, when things start to go wrong.


I love how you all rationalize things around here.

So if Howard is at the age of 31, when according to you, things start to go wrong....

what do you consider the Skins DE, Daniels, who is all of, what, 33 or 34 ?

[shallyshal]

The Skins had FA splash and the Eagles lacked FA splash. Huh.

OL-Eagles re-sign FA Runyan and Skins sign 2 scrubs...advantage Eagles

QB- Eagles upgrade with Garcia over McMahon and Skins downgrade from Ramsey to Collins....advantage Eagles

TE- Eagles upgrade with a 27 yr old back up pass catching threat and the Skins downgrade from Royal to a 35 yr old 3rd stringer from NE....advantage Eagles

DE- Eagles add DE with 14 sacks the past 2 years whose former team liked so much they made him their franchise player 2 years in a row and the Skins add a DE whose former team loved his DE skills so much they made a LBer out of him.....advantage Eagles

WR- Eagles and Skins add FA WRs whose yards per season over their careers are almost the same but ARE has great special team skills that give him an edge....advantage Skins

S/LB- Skins add a SS whose stats indicate he covers like a LB and hits like a CB when you really want the opposite and the Eagles add a LB who is very good when healthy but will probably end up on IR so... advantage Skins.

It looks like 4 to 2 to me. Skins did make a trade but that's not FA splash. I wonder when we get to the draft who will win the second half of the off season with the Eagles making 7 picks before the Skins make their second pick?


hang on there... garcia is an advantage only over mcmc or detmer. not saying much. ramsey was the odd man out and cleared away so that campbell can get playing time. collins is a coach on the field because of his experience with saunder offense... both teams improved

fauria may be 35 but he is solid as a blocker and a very reliable receiver onthird downs. his problem was that there was no room for him onn the roster with talent like watson and graham ahead of him. it gave him a place to play. schobel never did much for cincy. again, both teams improved but the skins will benefit more because their need was greater.

howard WAS a great player. if his knees can hold up he will be an improvement over kalu. but at his age and with his injury history he won't be anything except a situational player. carter was misused as a linebacker (the same way the eagles mis used kalu and tried to make a linebacker out of him)
he fills the position of greatest need for the skins this off season. again, no less that equal benefit to both teams.

runyon was an absolute necessity to resign. the eagles got it done. the skins didn't need anything except young players to provide back up depth.
the eagles MISSED getting bentley. at best, the eagles stayed in place treading water. the skins have a young, deep line.. no advantage to either team.

so when it is added up, the skins added playmakers on both offense and defense. the eagles retained a key player and added 1 key player to their defense but they failed to address the need at receiver and replacing the younger healthier adams with an ageing, brittle barber is a step back..

furthermore, i am going to tell you that until the eagles committ to obtaining a power runner, they are not going anywhere in the nfc east. westbrook is a terrific player, but he cannot carry the load without getting hurt. moats and
buckhalter, who gets hurt every year and put on IR can't do it either. the single biggest mistake has been to fail to recognize how badly they needed someone like duce. someone who could get the tough yardage for them. they passed on steven jackson. if they pass on len dale white they are fools...

[shallyshal]

I love how you all rationalize things around here.

So if Howard is at the age of 31, when according to you, things start to go wrong....

what do you consider the Skins DE, Daniels, who is all of, what, 33 or 34 ?


difference being that daniels just had perhaps the second best season of his entire career and is as healthy as he has been in years.
howard has had several back to back injury marred years.

[twenty-eight]

TE/H-Back: Eagles have Schoebel and Smith. Redskins have Fauria and Cooley. How many fans have heard of Matt Schoebel over Christian Fauria? I know I hadn't. Advantage? Dead even.




advantage? Smith and Cooley are comprable but you still have to go with Cooley. As far as Schoebel and Fauria, its simple, Schoebel spent the majority of his career with the Bengals while Fauria was winnning super bowls in new engand. advantage? Its obvious, the redskins


everything else is on point, one thing you guys missed is coaching. Take nothing away from andy reid, walrus looking..., you guys dont have **** on us. We have an enormous advantage when it comes to coaching.
:point2sky:helmet:

[Number5]

advantage? Smith and Cooley are comprable but you still have to go with Cooley. As far as Schoebel and Fauria, its simple, Schoebel spent the majority of his career with the Bengals while Fauria was winnning super bowls in new engand. advantage? Its obvious, the redskins


everything else is on point, one thing you guys missed is coaching. Take nothing away from andy reid, walrus looking..., you guys dont have **** on us. We have an enormous advantage when it comes to coaching.
:point2sky:helmet:


Head to Head its 2-2.....

And could you tell us why its so obvious that you have to go with Cooley?

[Fred Jones]

It is difficult to predict the Eagles this season. Injuries will once again play a part. Mcnugget needs to stay healthy and if he does I think the Eagles will have a good shot at the playoffs. The Giants will live and die with the play of Eli and Barber. Dallas has improved, but I just have a feeling they will not be that much better than last year. The Eagles are the question mark. NFC champions, no, but they could be a very tough team to beat this year. The skins have a number of questions as well. The biggest is QB. How much does Campbell develop? Does Brunell stay healthy? Does Taylor go to jail? I am not worried about OLB, but I think the team needs one more capable CB on the roster.

[ratbert_rizzo]

What positions did the Redskins upgrade?
Safety with Archuleta (with apologies to Ryan Clark)
DE with Andre Carter
WR with Lloyd and ARE
maybe TE because Royal sure ain't nothing special

What positions did the Redskins downgrade?
OLB with LaVar leaving
secondary depth

What positions did the Eagles upgrade?
DE with Howard
backup QB?
backup TE?
Shawn Barber over Keith Adams?

What positions did the Eagles downgrade?
WR though nobody is going to miss TO

I think that says it all

[skinz4evr]

How is QB Garcia an upgrade anyway. He really stunk it up in Detroit and didn't look that good in his last year or two in SanFran. Signing Runyan counts but signing Dockery doesn't?? Robert Royal DROPPED ALOT of important passes that Fauria won't and C.F. is a Great blocker, which is what the coaches want from that position (remember Kozlowski?). And the Eagles will do well in draft, partly due to the ENORMOUS WINDFALL of compensatory picks they get every year for letting players leave. Speaking of which, does anyone know where our compensatory pick for Smoot leaving went? We got a 7 for all our players that left? I know Pierce was undrafted but wasn't Smoot drafted in the 2nd?? Why are these other teams (like Baltimore) getting such SPECTACULAR compensation and we get one 7th...???? Seems like our pick should atleast be as high as what other teams are getting ..

[twenty-eight]

Head to Head its 2-2.....

And could you tell us why its so obvious that you have to go with Cooley?


Alright lj smith had 3 td's total last season, Cooley had three in the dallas game. Smith, just finished his third season had a career high in rec. and yards 61 for 682. Cooley also had career highs, 71 for 774 yards, in just his second season. Both these players have bright futures, I just think Cooley's is a bit brighter.

[Who Del]

The reason I chose even for TE/H-Back is because I don't think Cooley is anymore talented than LJ Smith.

Cooley does the smaller things like block and pick up blitzes. LJ is a better receiver (although I worry the way he holds the ball around like a loaf of bread)

They're even in my mind.

Schoebel and Fauria are even.

[TerpsEagles]

difference being that daniels just had perhaps the second best season of his entire career and is as healthy as he has been in years.
howard has had several back to back injury marred years.

no, difference is one is an Eagle and one is a Skin. If you're gonna be a homer, at least own up to it.

Daniels played in 5 games the first year w/ the Skins.... and last year, as you just put it, had the 2nd best season of his entire career and is now healthy....

I suppose that isn't a possibility for the Eagle player though, huh ?

[twenty-eight]

Schoebel and Fauria are even.


You're wrong man! You dont know anything about these guys

[twenty-eight]

Howard is better than Daniels

[Who Del]

You're wrong man! You dont know anything about these guys

And you do? Please enlighten me.

And please don't use that lame excuse that Fauria was winning Super Bowls with the Patriots. So was Mike Cloud.

[Hooper]

Please. Cooley is better than LJ Smith. He has an incredible knack for getting open and getting first downs and td's. Hell, the eagles put a corner on him and he still kept getting open.

[Who Del]

Here are my final thoughts on this. I gave the most objective view and you people still want to find something wrong.

Cooley and LJ are on the same level in my mind. Cooley is a better blocker. LJ is a better receiver. Agree to disagree on that.

Schoebel and Fauria are even in MY mind because Schoebel is young and hasn't done much. Fauria is older and hasn't done much. I don't ever remember either of them being world beaters.

Thats the final word. Talk amongst yourselves.

[twenty-eight]

And you do? Please enlighten me.

And please don't use that lame excuse that Fauria was winning Super Bowls with the Patriots. So was Mike Cloud.


Career Numbers

Schoebel
games played-63 games started-13 rec-90 yards-938 9tds


Fauria
games played-167 games started-119 rec-245 yards-2473 20-tds

[Hooper]

Cooley is an average blocker at best. But he's a fantastic receiver. I've seen LJ drop more balls in a game than Cooley has in a season.

[Who Del]

Career Numbers

Schoebel
games played-63 games started-13 rec-90 yards-938 9tds


Fauria
games played-167 games started-119 rec-245 yards-2473 20-tds

Ok.

These numbers have nothing to do with the fact that Fauria has been in the league for 12 years while Schoebel has only been in for 5. :rolleyes:

[ratbert_rizzo]

All I know is that Reggie Kelly started over Matt Schobel. I'm pretty sure that means something. Fauria has 119 career starts over 11 seasons and Schobel has 13 over 4 seasons.

Thats about 10 starts a season for Fauria to 3 per year for Schobel. Draw whatever conclusions you like from that.

[apickmans]

Here are my final thoughts on this. I gave the most objective view and you people still want to find something wrong.

Cooley and LJ are on the same level in my mind. Cooley is a better blocker. LJ is a better receiver. Agree to disagree on that.

Schoebel and Fauria are even in MY mind because Schoebel is young and hasn't done much. Fauria is older and hasn't done much. I don't ever remember either of them being world beaters.

Thats the final word. Talk amongst yourselves.


I think Cooley and LJ are both very good players. I have to give the slight edge to cooley because while cooley is a better blocker i think his hands are better than LJ as well. I've watched a lot of eagles games because 2 of my good friends are eagles fans and I have seen him drop a lot of easy passes. LJ also has a tendacy to fumble the ball. Where LJ has Cooley is that hes faster and has more athletism. Dont get me wrong I like both players but Cooley just seems to be getting better and better.

[shallyshal]

Alright lj smith had 3 td's total last season, Cooley had three in the dallas game. Smith, just finished his third season had a career high in rec. and yards 61 for 682. Cooley also had career highs, 71 for 774 yards, in just his second season. Both these players have bright futures, I just think Cooley's is a bit brighter.


smith has a chronically bad back... not a good thing for a tight end

[Ernie5]

So if Howard is at the age of 31, when according to you, things start to go wrong....

Things have already gone wrong for Howard, whom I like a lot. He has not, however, been healthy since he was about 28.

[pmo33]

The Skins had FA splash and the Eagles lacked FA splash. Huh.

OL-Eagles re-sign FA Runyan and Skins sign 2 scrubs...advantage Eagles

QB- Eagles upgrade with Garcia over McMahon and Skins downgrade from Ramsey to Collins....advantage Eagles

TE- Eagles upgrade with a 27 yr old back up pass catching threat and the Skins downgrade from Royal to a 35 yr old 3rd stringer from NE....advantage Eagles

DE- Eagles add DE with 14 sacks the past 2 years whose former team liked so much they made him their franchise player 2 years in a row and the Skins add a DE whose former team loved his DE skills so much they made a LBer out of him.....advantage Eagles

WR- Eagles and Skins add FA WRs whose yards per season over their careers are almost the same but ARE has great special team skills that give him an edge....advantage Skins

S/LB- Skins add a SS whose stats indicate he covers like a LB and hits like a CB when you really want the opposite and the Eagles add a LB who is very good when healthy but will probably end up on IR so... advantage Skins.

It looks like 4 to 2 to me. Skins did make a trade but that's not FA splash. I wonder when we get to the draft who will win the second half of the off season with the Eagles making 7 picks before the Skins make their second pick?


I think you are forgetting a big piece... The fact that we were a far better team that the Eagles last year. And that we really lost no players, with the exception of Ramsey and he didn't play. Also keep in mind that even though you idiots say you can win without TO.. you have yet to prove it.... and if last year was any example of your performance without him.. than you guys are in for a real crap year, and im excited to grab 2 free wins of of you guys. Thanks in advance

[shallyshal]

no, difference is one is an Eagle and one is a Skin. If you're gonna be a homer, at least own up to it.

Daniels played in 5 games the first year w/ the Skins.... and last year, as you just put it, had the 2nd best season of his entire career and is now healthy....

I suppose that isn't a possibility for the Eagle player though, huh ?


having lived in new orleans for the better part of the past 30 years and following the saints i can tell you that i love howard as a person and for the player he once was. but he was badly beat up the past several years. not just 1 injury but a series of them. he will play through them for his team but is not now the player he once was. it is up to him to prove he is once again healthy. if he is, you have a tremendous player.

as for daniels, the latter half of last year he was playing at an exceptional level of play. he ended the season healthy and does not have a long injury history beside his first year with the skins. having carter onthe other side is going to free him from a lot of the double teams he once faced as the skins only legitimate pass rusher. if he stays healthy he will be a force off the edge this year.

fair enough?

[shallyshal]

Howard is better than Daniels

over a career ? yes... over the last season? no..

we have to see who is healthier this coming year

[TerpsEagles]

having lived in new orleans for the better part of the past 30 years and following the saints i can tell you that i love howard as a person and for the player he once was. but he was badly beat up the past several years. not just 1 injury but a series of them. he will play through them for his team but is not now the player he once was. it is up to him to prove he is once again healthy. if he is, you have a tremendous player.

as for daniels, the latter half of last year he was playing at an exceptional level of play. he ended the season healthy and does not have a long injury history beside his first year with the skins. having carter onthe other side is going to free him from a lot of the double teams he once faced as the skins only legitimate pass rusher. if he stays healthy he will be a force off the edge this year.

fair enough?

for the record, my initial post that you jumped in on and responded to, was simply to the guy who said Howard was 31, and said that was the age that things start to go wrong.

So sure, fair enough.

[Monte51Coleman]

LJ is a better receiver (although I worry the way he holds the ball around like a loaf of bread)



Huh? You lost me there.

How exactly is Smith a better reciever than Cooley?

[Pocono]

If re-signing Runyan counts, why doesn't re-signing Dockery?

I would say Dock + depth beats out Runyan alone, no?

Runyan still gets the nod over Dockery. Maybe not next year but for now he gets the nod mainly because OT is a much more important position than OG. The two minimum guys they signed get no points because guys like that are a dime a dozen.

If I have to count re-signing an RFA then I'd also have to count re-signing Rod Hood at nickle CB for the Eagles and compare it to the huge void the Skins presently have at that position so again.....advantage Eagles.


BTW....Howard is 29 years old. He's much younger than Daniels Salevea and Wynn and only a few weeks older than Griffen and only 1 year older than Archuleta. Also doesn't Carter have a bad back which caused him to miss half the 04 season. A smallish DE who gets leaned on regularly by 350 pound OT's is not a good thing.

[dockeryfan]

Cooley is a better blocker. LJ is a better receiver.
If by better receiver you mean has hands of stone, then we are in full agreement.

[Who Del]

If by better receiver you mean has hands of stone, then we are in full agreement.

That's exactly what I meant! :silly:

[Seabee1973]

Originally Posted by twenty-eight
Career Numbers

Schoebel
games played-63 games started-13 rec-90 yards-938 9tds


Fauria
games played-167 games started-119 rec-245 yards-2473 20-tds



Ok.

These numbers have nothing to do with the fact that Fauria has been in the league for 12 years while Schoebel has only been in for 5. :rolleyes:





Lets break it down by year then

schoebel averages starts 2.6 per year 18 receptions 187.6 yards and 1.8 TD

Fauria starts 9.91 20.4 206 yards and 1.6 TD


So all in all it looks like Fauria has the better per year stats

[jrockster21]

Please. Cooley is better than LJ Smith. He has an incredible knack for getting open and getting first downs and td's. Hell, the eagles put a corner on him and he still kept getting open.

Exactly...the most important stats imo for a tight end are first downs and touchdowns. Cooley caught 71 balls -- 44 first downs and 7 touchdowns. Almost 72% of the balls he caught were for a first down or for a score. 72%!!

LJ caught 61 balls, 36 for first downs and 3 TDs. That means almost 64% of balls thrown his way went for a first down or a touchdown.

To be fair, let's look at 2004 as well, so that you guys don't argue that LJ had McMahon throwing to him all season. In 2004, LJ caught 34 balls for 21 first downs and 5 TDs. This is a much better number at 76%. In 04 Cooley caught 37 balls for 23 first downs and 6 scores. That means 78% of his catches were either first downs or touchdowns.

So for both years in the league, Cooley has caught more balls than LJ, and more TDs and first downs as well. The clear advantage is for Cooley.


Oh and TerpsEagles, if you want to compare Howard to Daniels, go ahead! Daniels beasted out at the end of last season, but that was against Torrin "revolving door" Tucker. If I were you, I would hope Howard is a better sack artist than Daniels! :laugh:

[jrockster21]

Cooley and LJ are on the same level in my mind. Cooley is a better blocker. LJ is a better receiver. Agree to disagree on that.


See my above post, and you'll realize you're out of your ever-lovin mind! ;)


Oh, and as far as Schobel and Fauria are concerned, I would say that Schobel is pretty much what Fauria was at this point in his career.

[jrockster21]

Cooley is an average blocker at best. But he's a fantastic receiver. I've seen LJ drop more balls in a game than Cooley has in a season.

I wouldn't say Cooley is all-world, but he's an above average blocker.

[Who Del]

Wow! A whole extra two percent difference between Smith and Cooley in 2004. If I remember correctly that Eagles team had Owens on it, too. So I'm guessing a majority of the balls weren't going Smith's way. But hey Cooley is 2 percent better!! ADVANTAGE SKINzzzzz!!!@##$$!@$ LOL!!#$$$! :silly:

[jrockster21]

Wow! A whole extra two percent difference between Smith and Cooley in 2004. If I remember correctly that Eagles team had Owens on it, too. So I'm guessing a majority of the balls weren't going Smith's way. But hey Cooley is 2 percent better!! ADVANTAGE SKINzzzzz!!!@##$$!@$ LOL!!#$$$! :silly:


Or you could focus on the fact that he caught more TDs and first downs in 04...:rolleyes:

The 2005 team had Moss on it, and Cooley still caught 72%. That rationale will get you nowhere. ;) (EDIT: with way more balls thrown his way than LJ in 04)

[PCRoughrider]

Chris Cooley is better than any tight end on the Eagles roster.

Way better.

[whitskins]

The Skins had FA splash and the Eagles lacked FA splash. Huh.

OL-Eagles re-sign FA Runyan and Skins sign 2 scrubs...advantage Eagles

QB- Eagles upgrade with Garcia over McMahon and Skins downgrade from Ramsey to Collins....advantage Eagles

TE- Eagles upgrade with a 27 yr old back up pass catching threat and the Skins downgrade from Royal to a 35 yr old 3rd stringer from NE....advantage Eagles

DE- Eagles add DE with 14 sacks the past 2 years whose former team liked so much they made him their franchise player 2 years in a row and the Skins add a DE whose former team loved his DE skills so much they made a LBer out of him.....advantage Eagles

WR- Eagles and Skins add FA WRs whose yards per season over their careers are almost the same but ARE has great special team skills that give him an edge....advantage Skins

S/LB- Skins add a SS whose stats indicate he covers like a LB and hits like a CB when you really want the opposite and the Eagles add a LB who is very good when healthy but will probably end up on IR so... advantage Skins.

It looks like 4 to 2 to me. Skins did make a trade but that's not FA splash. I wonder when we get to the draft who will win the second half of the off season with the Eagles making 7 picks before the Skins make their second pick?

You can't seriously believe this logic is sound can you? Juding offseason additions equally position by position is so pointless it's not even funny. The Eagles upgrades at backup TE or backup QB are worth as much as the Skins upgrades at WR? This makes no sense and it is the only way you could rationalize the Eagles having a more successful offseason than the Skins.

And comparing re-signing Dockery to re-signing Runyan is also pointless. You say advantage Eagles. Actually it's advantage Skins, since the Skins O-line is far better. That's what should matter here, isn't it?

Who cares if the Eagles improved more at backup TE than the Skins did. Overall that has a small effect on the success of both teams. The Skins additions at WR alone did more than the Eagles have this offseason. They took a position of dire weakness and made it a huge strength.

The Skins additions on defense are also stronger, not to mention that the defense overall was stronger than Philly's before the offseason even started. You ignore the fact that the Redskins team as a whole is actually much more talented and complete top to bottom, but try to give the advantage to the Eagles because you view their backup TE, QB, and nickel corner as superior? Wow...

[Who Del]

Or you could focus on the fact that he caught more TDs and first downs in 04...:rolleyes:

The 2005 team had Moss on it, and Cooley still caught 72%. That rationale will get you nowhere. ;) (EDIT: with way more balls thrown his way than LJ in 04)

Oh you mean that whole extra TD that Cooley caught in 04? Sorry but a one TD difference and a two percent difference doesn't make Cooley WAY better than LJ Smith. It makes him a smidge better.

Plus in '05 LJ was on pace to be a beast with McNabb in the lineup. As soon as McNabb was pulled his stats went way down. Cooley had Brunell all year. So that argument is bunk in my mind.

Look. Cooley isn't that much better than LJ. And thats my opinion. The stats didn't prove that either. They only proved they were about dead even. Which is what I originally said anyway.

PS: I'll even give the edge to the Skins because Cooley is a much better blocker than LJ. But a much better receiver? No. Only 2 percent. ;)

[Who Del]

I have question. Why did N5 post this article? It was like a slap in the face. :(

[jrockster21]

Plus in '05 LJ was on pace to be a beast with McNabb in the lineup. As soon as McNabb was pulled his stats went way down. Cooley had Brunell all year. So that argument is bunk in my mind.

In week 10, the week after McNabb was done for the season, LJ caught 7 balls for 84 yards, his second best yardage total and 3rd best receptions total of the season. After that game, his stats dropped off, but he was able to perform without McFlabb in the lineup.

Not to mention, in 2004, Cooley had a horrible Brunell and only slightly better Ramsey throwing him the ball, but still had better stats than LJ, who had a pro-bowl McNabb throwing him the ball.


Look. Cooley isn't that much better than LJ. And thats my opinion. The stats didn't prove that either. They only proved they were about dead even. Which is what I originally said anyway.

Well, you're entitled to your incorrect opinion ;) but I think the stats show otherwise, that Cooley was better. To give you the benefit of the doubt, we'll look at LJ's stats for the first nine weeks, before McNabb went out.

LJ caught 42 balls for 3 TDs and 26 first downs in the first 9 weeks of the season. That is still only 69%.

[Who Del]

I guess we'll agree to disagree, Jrock! But I did give in and give the Skins the edge there. :)

:cheers:

[jrockster21]

I guess we'll agree to disagree, Jrock! But I did give in and give the Skins the edge there. :)

:cheers:


So if you give the Skins the edge, than we are agreeing to agree! :silly:

:cheers:

[Who Del]

So if you give the Skins the edge, than we are agreeing to agree! :silly:

:cheers:

I guess so :(

Go answer my Eagle fan thread. Interested to know your thoughts on it.

[Number5]

Well, you're entitled to your incorrect opinion ;) but I think the stats show otherwise, that Cooley was better. To give you the benefit of the doubt, we'll look at LJ's stats for the first nine weeks, before McNabb went out.




Wait.....did you tell him that his is entitled to his "incorrect opinion"? Who died and made you "opinion" lord? We as "human beings" are entitled to think whatever we want to friggin' think, regardless of what others believe or what others claim to know. Without that, then we are all drones.....formated like computer files to all be alike without personalities and other personal triaits, etc.

If that's the case, then your sig, which you think is phat n all that and is an "incorrect opinion" by you in my eyes....blows "elephant bawls"......thus you are entitled to keep it. :silly:

[jrockster21]

Wait.....did you tell him that his is entitled to his "incorrect opinion"? Who died and made you "opinion" lord? We as "human beings" are entitled to think whatever we want to friggin' think, regardless of what others believe or what others claim to know. Without that, then we are all drones.....formated like computer files to all be alike without personalities and other personal triaits, etc.

If that's the case, then your sig, which you think is phat n all that and is an "incorrect opinion" by you in my eyes....blows "elephant bawls"......thus you are entitled to keep it. :silly:


Well, since you already admitted to being high in another thread, I'll excuse the fact that you missed the winky smily after "incorrect opinion." :nana:

[Eagle091]

in the 2nd game against phllly, I saw cooley slam his helmet like a little girl on the sideline because he was frustrated. all world, think not. kool-aid drinkers.

[jrockster21]

in the 2nd game against phllly, I saw cooley slam his helmet like a little girl on the sideline because he was frustrated. all world, think not. kool-aid drinkers.


Who said he was all-world? All we're saying is that he's better than LJ Smith! :laugh:

[whitskins]

in the 2nd game against phllly, I saw cooley slam his helmet like a little girl on the sideline because he was frustrated. all world, think not. kool-aid drinkers.

All-World? No. All-Pro? Should have been.

Cooley was mistakenly listed as a FB on Pro Bowl ballots and as a result he was neglected by the coaches and players. If he were listed as a TE he could have and should have made it to Hawaii.

Of all NFC TEs, Cooley finished first in catches (71), third in yards (774), and tied for first in TDs (7). Are the stats drinking kool-aid too?

[ratbert_rizzo]

Cooley did lead the fans voting for FB. I guess the players and coaches thought of him as a TE and that messed things up. Hopefully this year he will go as a TE.

[Pocono]

All-World? No. All-Pro? Should have been.

Cooley was mistakenly listed as a FB on Pro Bowl ballots and as a result he was neglected by the coaches and players. If he were listed as a TE he could have and should have made it to Hawaii.

Of all NFC TEs, Cooley finished first in catches (71), third in yards (774), and tied for first in TDs (7). Are the stats drinking kool-aid too?

All Pro? There is a difference between going to the Pro Bowl and being All Pro. To be All Pro he'd have to be picked ahead of Gates or Gonzalez and that's just plain silly. If Cooley were forced to play like a traditional TE I don't think he'd be nearly as successful.

[jpgirth]

All Pro? There is a difference between going to the Pro Bowl and being All Pro. To be All Pro he'd have to be picked ahead of Gates or Gonzalez and that's just plain silly. If Cooley were forced to play like a traditional TE I don't think he'd be nearly as successful.
Your arguments are laughable.

If Cooley were forced to play like a traditional TE I don't think he'd be nearly as successful. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

What is your philosophy of a traditional tight end, maybe you can share it with that organization of yours that just was swept in their division and finished 6-10. :laugh:

Better yet maybe Reid should call Gibbs and ask him how Cooley was able to set a franchise record in an antiquated system, where he doesn't play a traditional role.

Lord only knows LJ Smith wouldn't be able to handle it cause he has a terrible case of BUTTERFINGERS.

[whitskins]

All Pro? There is a difference between going to the Pro Bowl and being All Pro. To be All Pro he'd have to be picked ahead of Gates or Gonzalez and that's just plain silly. If Cooley were forced to play like a traditional TE I don't think he'd be nearly as successful.

Yes, I know the difference between All-Pro and Pro Bowl, actually I considered changing that in my post but it just didn't seem to have the same "ring." My point was that he should have been a Pro Bowler though, Cooley over Gates and Gonzalez is obviously a big reach.

And why exactly would Cooley not be as successful as a traditional TE? Considering he lines up plenty at TE, as well as WR, I don't think his skills are lacking at all in the receiving department so lining up in the backfield has nothing to do with his production. This point doesn't make any sense to me and is not backed up by anything substantial, so I'll just continue to point to Cooley's excellent production at several different offensive positions and let that speak for itself.

[Goaldeje]

in the 2nd game against phllly, I saw cooley slam his helmet like a little girl on the sideline because he was frustrated. all world, think not. kool-aid drinkers.


You're right. I've never seen TO get frustrated and do anything worse than slam his helmet. And TO sucks. I've never seen or heard McNabb so anything bad either. Getting frustrated is clearly a sign of an inferior player.

Cooley isn't the best TE is the league. Not even close, actually. Gates is above and beyond the best, so much better than anyone else that it isn't funny. But is Cooley really, really good? Hell yeah. I personally would rather have him thatn Shockey or Smith. Witten is a toss up, though the homer in me says Cooley all the way.

[whitskins]

Your arguments are laughable.

If Cooley were forced to play like a traditional TE I don't think he'd be nearly as successful. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

What is your philosophy of a traditional tight end, maybe you can share it with that organization of yours that just was swept in their division and finished 6-10. :laugh:

Better yet maybe Reid should call Gibbs and ask him how Cooley was able to set a franchise record in an antiquated system, where he doesn't play a traditional role.

Lord only knows LJ Smith wouldn't be able to handle it cause he has a terrible case of BUTTERFINGERS.

I agree, it is quite laughable. If the H-back system could turn a mediocre tight end into a Pro Bowl caliber player, as well as providing strong enough blocking for a 1500 yard running back, wouldn't everyone be using it?

This point is moot anyways since Cooley lined up very often at TE and WR throughout the season. Clearly a comment made by someone who watches the Skins on only very rare occasions.

[hercules]

So when can we expect the big splash from the eagles anyway? I want to brace my self in advance.

18 mill in cap room means we can expect a whole lotta spashin', no?

[Goaldeje]

So when can we expect the big splash from the eagles anyway? I want to brace my self in advance.

18 mill in cap room means we can expect a whole lotta spashin', no?


If by "splash" you mean ripple.

[The-Rock]

We've yet to make our splash. My inside sources have spoken with me. We have something HUGE in store. :)

Trading everyone on your roster for the #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10th picks in the draft like I somehow orchastrated in Madden 06 one time? :D

[Enter Apotheosis]

Trading everyone on your roster for the #1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10th picks in the draft like I somehow orchastrated in Madden 06 one time? :D

If it saves the Eagles a buck I wouldn't doubt that as a possibility.

[Redsk58417]

All Pro? There is a difference between going to the Pro Bowl and being All Pro. To be All Pro he'd have to be picked ahead of Gates or Gonzalez and that's just plain silly. If Cooley were forced to play like a traditional TE I don't think he'd be nearly as successful.

What a crazy comment. Would McNabb be as "successfull" if he was just made to be a pocket passer? If McNabb was forced to play FB how effective will he be? Exactly! Its up to the coaching staff's to put the players in the best spots possible to *succeed.* Now chalk Cooley being and doing what he does to a *good coaching* call.

[visionary]

People, people, please, let's handle this like Adults and let the cheerleaders decide who is better between Cooley and Smith.

[visionary]

Oh and the original article is correct.

The Eagles are about to make a big splash.

They are in fact not only going to make a big splash in Free Agency, but they will be making two big splashes.

According to VNB* The Eagles are on the verge of completing ten year contracts with two top level free agents.

Eagles fans meet your new players:


At DT a killer of a tackler and able to dive for the ball if it goes loose too.

http://www.hospitalconnect.com/ahrmm/images/shamu.jpg



and at WR, a speedy, shifty guy who never drops the ball and is the ultimate team player.

http://timstvshowcase.com/flipper.html





*Visionary News Broadcasting

[shallyshal]

Oh and the original article is correct.

The Eagles are about to make a big splash.

They are in fact not only going to make a big splash in Free Agency, but they will be making two big splashes.

According to VNB* The Eagles are on the verge of completing ten year contracts with two top level free agents.

Eagles fans meet your new players:


At DT a killer of a tackler and able to dive for the ball if it goes loose too.

http://www.hospitalconnect.com/ahrmm/images/shamu.jpg



and at WR, a speedy, shifty guy who never drops the ball and is the ultimate team player.

http://timstvshowcase.com/flipper.html





*Visionary News Broadcasting

cruel vis, cruel.....
:applause:

[shallyshal]

in the 2nd game against phllly, I saw cooley slam his helmet like a little girl on the sideline because he was frustrated. all world, think not. kool-aid drinkers.


no question about it.. johnson and the eagle defense did a better job against cooley that game than anyone else all year. credit to them..