Sean Taylor , A real skin?

[cmorina69]

There is no doubt that Sean is a total best on the field, but then there is this off field stuff. He always gives 110% witch is great but is he self-less somthing that Gibbs finds very important. I geuss my qeustion is , with this spiting in the face of Pittman and the whole gun thing is he a skin?

[Jofizz]

He needs a good two or three years with a spotless record and he will work his way back into the true redskin column.

[REDSKINSQ]

yeah but hes just amazing.

[Supreme Wu]

I can't be the only one who likes a loose cannon. ST is the type of crazy cat you want on your side in a fight.

[apickmans]

Of course hes a real redskin. Some of his best friends like portis and moss are on the team and I dont seem him wanting to play for any other team. Even Greg Williams has said taylor has been his favorite player to coach.

[Oldskool]

He hasnt been on the team long enough.

[COOLhandsCOOLEY]

I think Sean Taylor is an idiot.
Mind you I love to watch that idiot play football,
and love watching how scared he makes WRs.
But, my view is that the this kid is a true victim of
never having to acheive in a classroom or within social norms.

I think that Gregg WIlliam's can really show Sean Taylor how to be truly special on the field, and that they will establish a very strong relationship. Just for the record I don't think GW gives a $*** about the "SPIT" I think GW probably loved the intensity.

I hope that he can stay under control personally and keeps his intensity on the field, but I feel its probably more of a package deal. I also think Gibbs' reputation proves that he can deal with a "problem" guy. If that "problem" guy is taking him to the SB.

So I think he is a skin. I think being a skin will be the best thing that ever happend to him. He really was a choir boy since the gun "CHARGE" (it is nothing more than a charge) Other than spitting in the saintly face of Michael Pittman.

Sorry for the rant, but ST is an idiot, not a primadona. There is a big difference and he can learn alot from positive influences. You can't take the diva out of some other people.

[skins84]

How can you call someone a idiot that you don't know?

He may have spit in someone's face but does that give you the right to call him a idiot?

Anybody signed under contract to the Redskins is a real skin.

And I guarantee you that Gibbs and G. Williams feel that S. Taylor is a real Redskin.

Joe Gibbs didn't seem to care much after the "spitting incident", so why should we?

[Ant15fromNJ]

When this trial goes away and he plays amazing for a year then he will be a true redskin.

[Supreme Wu]

yeah, calling him an idiot is just flamebait.

[RedskinsAAFJ]

Whoa son I don't even think he did did nothing. He was probably trying to defend himself with that gun because some punk was mouthing off. They just mad cause we was winning and need to bring the team down son.

And with that spiiting thing, Tye Law spit in Steve Smiths face in the superbowl, and the patriots got named "americas team" and hard working joes that play with class but as soon as we do it then we don't have no class. Its a bunch of bull son. Don't buy into the hype ya heard.

one.

[HailYeah]

How can you call someone a idiot that you don't know?



I dont know Len Pasquarelli. And I am calling him an idiot.

If they are in the public spotlight, they are open to criticism.

[Oldskool]

I think Sean Taylor is an idiot.
Mind you I love to watch that idiot play football,
and love watching how scared he makes WRs.
But, my view is that the this kid is a true victim of
never having to acheive in a classroom or within social norms.

I think that Gregg WIlliam's can really show Sean Taylor how to be truly special on the field, and that they will establish a very strong relationship. Just for the record I don't think GW gives a $*** about the "SPIT" I think GW probably loved the intensity.

I hope that he can stay under control personally and keeps his intensity on the field, but I feel its probably more of a package deal. I also think Gibbs' reputation proves that he can deal with a "problem" guy. If that "problem" guy is taking him to the SB.

So I think he is a skin. I think being a skin will be the best thing that ever happend to him. He really was a choir boy since the gun "CHARGE" (it is nothing more than a charge) Other than spitting in the saintly face of Michael Pittman.

Sorry for the rant, but ST is an idiot, not a primadona. There is a big difference and he can learn alot from positive influences. You can't take the diva out of some other people.


Prepare to get :laythehur for daring to say anything negative against their beloved Sean Taylor.




:munchout:

[Brown_Hornet]

There is no doubt that Sean is a total best on the field, but then there is this off field stuff. He always gives 110% witch is great but is he self-less somthing that Gibbs finds very important. I geuss my qeustion is , with this spiting in the face of Pittman and the whole gun thing is he a skin?
He sure doesn't look like an Iriquois.

[VAsBeachBoy]

Let's not talk negatively about Sean Taylor "off the field" untill this whole thing is actually figured out by those who know best...

[Supreme Wu]

Prepare to get :laythehur for daring to say anything negative against their beloved Sean Taylor.




:munchout:



Stirring the pot is such a feminine thing to do

[skins84]

^^^^^I Agree^^^^^


What's the point of starting a thread for people to talk bad about Sean Taylor?

And then others will defend him and just start pointless arguing...

He's a Redskin and we should be supporting him, none of us are perfect and neither is he.



Ps: this thread was started by a 15 yr. old

[SackMachine]

How dare you say something negative about our beloved ST! :laugh:

ST's play and intensity is enough to make any coach drool over having him. Even if you don't do well in school, it doesn't necessarily make you an idiot. Besides, you don't need a 250 IQ:silly: to play football.

Who knows maybe all the head to head contact ST has been initiating on the field affected his brain cells.

Everybody makes mistakes, if your going to hold the spitting incident and the gun CHARGES against him then something's wrong with you.

All I want is for him to be back next year to dominate just as he should be.

[RedskinsAAFJ]

Maaaan Taylor is a Beast on the field. It aint like he ruining the team, he just got some business to handle cause of some fools. But man, he is a true skin and he aint no fool... he just got caught trying to defend himself.

Redskins don't take no dis-respect son for real.

[Oldskool]

Stirring the pot is such a feminine thing to do

excuse me. who are you?

I was warning a poster about what is going to happen to him.

Now if you wish to insult me, take it PM and then the beatdown will commense.

This is not the place for personal attacks.

[fdarugar]

After this whole Lavar Arrington situation I realized that, I need to work on rooting for the jersey over the player...Taylor is a "real" Skin until he puts on another uni, imo.

[meetST]

Hey!!! Sean isn't a idiot....how dare you?!? I'm going to bash you now loser.....
and omg....15 year olds should NOT start threads....

sheesh...why does every freaking thread have to turn into a insult party?

ok...everything above was SARCASM...obviously some ppl just don't get it...cause someone got offended....:doh:

and yeah...I think he's a true redskin...seriously CAN'T see him in any other uniform....and oh yeah...he's not a idiot.....:silly:

[SackMachine]

fdarugar is absolutely right. we root for the B & G.
ST still wears that color, so yes he is a redskin.

who cares about the age of the thread starter, its a good question, if you think its a stupid one why are you even answering it?

[cmorina69]

hey whats with all the 15 yr bashing , im just given an idea, my point was if he keeps acting like this and geting in trouble how long will he be a skin.

[Fifty Gut]

man no one cares about him spitting on Pitman

**** Pitman and **** Tampa Bay

[skins84]

hey whats with all the 15 yr bashing , im just given an idea, my point was if he keeps acting like this and geting in trouble how long will he be a skin.

relax, it's just the fact that alot of people on here will defend Sean Taylor to the end when it seems like someone is saying somethin negative about him. The only trouble he's gotten into is spittin in Pittman's face. He hasn't went to court yet for the other thing so you can't really count that.

[AJ_Skins]

Maybe my memory is bad, but I don't remember Redskins fans ever worshipping players in the past they way they do now. It's all hype. Great players are usually not recognized as such until they've played for a number of years and have a solid career well under way. You don't start throwing flowers at a guy the minute he puts on your team's uniform. I don't think Darrell Green was ever even really appreciated until the last few years of his career.

If we start giving players our unqualified support based solely on talent with no regard to character, you know what that makes us? The Cowboys of the 90s.

[fansince62]

"Everybody makes mistakes, if your going to hold the spitting incident and the gun CHARGES against him then something's wrong with you."

THIS ONE MADE MY DAY!

Ted Kennedy: "If you're gonna hold a little driving misjudgement against me, something that happened years ago, then something's wrong with you."

please wait...I can't breathe I'm laughing so hard! it takes a village....(xxxxx!)!

[Supreme Wu]

After this whole Lavar Arrington situation I realized that, I need to work on rooting for the jersey over the player...Taylor is a "real" Skin until he puts on another uni, imo.

I'd say he's an exceptional Skin

He's clutch, other teams' players and fans fear him, the coaching staff loves him, he's a one-man highlight reel.. Sometimes i think fans get more carried away than players. Spitting on someone isn't the end of the world, I think Riggo went on and laughed about it saying the stuff that goes on under the pile is on another level, so the players and coaches just shrug that small off.

Gun charge thing is seperate to football, happened in the off-season. No one knows what really happened but the people involved so judging character based on that isn't very smart imo

[Jofizz]

This thread is just turning into an insult-fest..

[cmorina69]

relax, it's just the fact that alot of people on here will defend Sean Taylor to the end when it seems like someone is saying somethin negative about him. The only trouble he's gotten into is spittin in Pittman's face. He hasn't went to court yet for the other thing so you can't really count that.

well actuly his frist season they clamed that he spitted in tj houshmandzadeh's face as well

[SackMachine]

haha by gun charges i ment that he hasn't been proven guilty yet, besides I thought it was innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. You can't really compare it to Ted Kennedy since he has been proven guilty. Glad I got you to laugh though.

T.J. case is just one player's word against anothers. The refs didn't see anything or else he would have been ejected.

[#98QBKiller]

I can't be the only one who likes a loose cannon. ST is the type of crazy cat you want on your side in a fight.





I agree with you man. The intimidation factor is important in football. Plus, I don't care what Sean does in his own time. That's his business.

[Brown_Hornet]

"Everybody makes mistakes, if your going to hold the spitting incident and the gun CHARGES against him then something's wrong with you."

THIS ONE MADE MY DAY!

Ted Kennedy: "If you're gonna hold a little driving misjudgement against me, something that happened years ago, then something's wrong with you."

please wait...I can't breathe I'm laughing so hard! it takes a village....(xxxxx!)!
Gold Jerry...Gold!

[COOLhandsCOOLEY]

Please read my entire first POST,

I called him an idiot yes,

but I said I loved watching him play, and that I think he is a skin who will learn to be a man from positive influences by GW and JG.

I said that he is ONLY facing charges, meaning he wasn't convicted of anything else.

I also said that GW doesn't give a $*** about the spit.

GO LOOK I DIDN"T EDIT THAT POST.


Come on everyone, simmah down now. We're all waiting for some news from Ashburn, but lets read more than 1 word of a post before bashing someone.

PS, many of my closest friends are idiots

[AJ_Skins]

Why do people always hate on Michael Irvin? What's wrong with a little crack every once in a while?

[fansince62]

AJ...that's funny too!

"I agree with you man. The intimidation factor is important in football. Plus, I don't care what Sean does in his own time. That's his business."

I'm a huge Taylor fan when he's on the field as well......but one has to wonder....how does that square with what Joe is after? best we leave this one as a "work in progress"

[SkinsNeverDie]

I like his attitude, he has a killer instinct mentality. Besides the problems that he has, i feel he is a good player, and could possibly become loyal enough to the skins to become a true skin? I dunno lol.

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

I can't be the only one who likes a loose cannon. ST is the type of crazy cat you want on your side in a fight.

Yep. And like I've said a million times before, if ST really wanted to spit in the face of Pittman, he would have hit him and not his facemask.

[skinsman4u]

How dare you say something negative about our beloved ST! :laugh:

ST's play and intensity is enough to make any coach drool over having him. Even if you don't do well in school, it doesn't necessarily make you an idiot. Besides, you don't need a 250 IQ:silly: to play football.

Who knows maybe all the head to head contact ST has been initiating on the field affected his brain cells.

Everybody makes mistakes, if your going to hold the spitting incident and the gun CHARGES against him then something's wrong with you.

All I want is for him to be back next year to dominate just as he should be.

Yeah, no kidding; who started this thread? This thread sucks...hey Beavis you're a B^%&*$ sandwhich. Don't believe me? Okay what if Sean played for someone else...you wouldn't like that very much would you? See, there, now you believe this thread sucks? You're a but nucleus.

[cosmopolitianbloodloss]

"work in progress"


I second this. I love Sean Taylor here, and I don't want to see him anywhere else. But we really don't know much- he's only been here for two years.

[AJ_Skins]

Yeah, no kidding; who started this thread? This thread sucks...hey Beavis you're a B^%&*$ sandwhich. Don't believe me? Okay what if Sean played for someone else...you wouldn't like that very much would you? See, there, now you believe this thread sucks? You're a but nucleus.

If he played for somebody else, nobody here would be giving him any credit at all. Believe it or not, there actually aren't that many players in the NFL who wind up chasing people around with a gun. Taylor has done something pretty unique, the kind of thing that gives the rest of the players a bad name. You can say he's talented, and you can say you hope he gets his act together, but if you say what he did is fine because he plays for your team...you give Redskins fans a bad name.

[clevelanskins28]

Joe Gibbs has dealt with problem players. I am fifteen and know that John Riggins was a problem, but everyone loved him, because on the field, he went 200%. He loved playing here, even if he was a pain in the @$$. Taylor isnt even that, he just has had a few incidents, in which he will overcome, and hopefully his play will cause us to forget about them. On the field, he goes all out, on defense, on special teams, in practice, i have not heard one word against him about that. ST is definitely a real redskin, and what is with this crap about people not being a "skin" because of a bad incident. We are not perfect, our players have never been perfect, but we can still accept them as real skins as long as they do the best they can for the Redskins, wich Sean definitely does. Hail to the Redskins, all of them

[Supreme Wu]

If he played for somebody else, nobody here would be giving him any credit at all. Believe it or not, there actually aren't that many players in the NFL who wind up chasing people around with a gun. Taylor has done something pretty unique, the kind of thing that gives the rest of the players a bad name. You can say he's talented, and you can say you hope he gets his act together, but if you say what he did is fine because he plays for your team...you give Redskins fans a bad name.


What do you mean "What he did"?

I didn't realize he was already found guilty of the crime. In my opinion, if you assume one of your teams players is guilty based on media hype, you give fans of your team a bad name.

One wonders why we even bother with trials anymore at all in this country, since just accusing someone is enough these days.

[skinsman4u]

If he played for somebody else, nobody here would be giving him any credit at all. Believe it or not, there actually aren't that many players in the NFL who wind up chasing people around with a gun. Taylor has done something pretty unique, the kind of thing that gives the rest of the players a bad name. You can say he's talented, and you can say you hope he gets his act together, but if you say what he did is fine because he plays for your team...you give Redskins fans a bad name.

I said what I said. And I said if he played for another team we wouldn't like it. Okay, I'll speak for myself; I wouldn't like it. Don't make that out of more than what I said. You said everything else. Hell, I don't know who or what or if he was chasing somebody with a gun. You said that along with the media. But thanks for the post. And just for the record, I'm still glad he plays for us ! And also for the record this thread still sucks.

Does Jon Jansen have a bad name because of this? Ahhh nope, okaaay lets try uhm , lets see here, oh here's one how about Clinton,tah, tah, tah, you lose again. I tell you what, we'll try another one how boooout Rock (no not Jansen) or did you know Jansen's nick name was Rock?

But this is not about nick names. So lets say Rock Cartwright, does he have a bad name? So there, how's that but good feed back and thanks for the comments. Remember everybody said Lewis and O'Jay were guilty too. So I really don't know what the hell Taylor was doing cause it's really none of my business.

But I do know in the win against Dallas in Dallas, this past season, he made a hit in the last seconds of the game that sent Clayton, or whatever his name is, flying out of Texas stadium and the ball flying out of the state of TX.

[hueman]

man no one cares about him spitting on Pitman


**** Pitman and **** Tampa Bay

yep.

[gambit187]

Sean Taylor with out football = Street thug

[gambit187]

I agree with you man. The intimidation factor is important in football. Plus, I don't care what Sean does in his own time. That's his business.

So 56QBkiller could or would u say the same about Mike Irvin

[#98QBKiller]

So 56QBkiller could or would u say the same about Mike Irvin



Yeah. But it doesn't mean I can't make fun of him because he's a cowgirl...:nutkick:

[iceman330]

He has some maturing to do, without question. But there is no doubt that he is a Skin. He leaves everything on the field and you can see that he cares about winning. He reminds me of Wilbur Marshall in that he skirts the edge w/ penalties but there is no question that he'll bring it EVERY game.

[iceman330]

Sean Taylor with out football = Street thug
yeah but that's about 70% of the NFL.

[Park City Skins]

Sure he is. That is until his contract is up. Then he's a fake Skins. ;)

[mookie0720]

There is no doubt that Sean is a total best on the field, but then there is this off field stuff. He always gives 110% witch is great but is he self-less somthing that Gibbs finds very important. I geuss my qeustion is , with this spiting in the face of Pittman and the whole gun thing is he a skin?

:doh:

[flexxskins]

I hope S.Taylor is a Redskin for his entire career, because I truly believe that he will end up being the greatest safety that has ever played the position.

But, another thing that I truly believe, is that Sean needs one hell of a good ass whoopin.

[deskskins]

Great Post. Wow these topics keep getting better and better. Yes he's a skin what color uniform dose he wear on Sundays. Besides its only his second year in the league. Can we talk about something relevant to the Redskins instead of usless banter about a non subject

[flexxskins]

deskskins,

I have noticed that every comment that you have posted here on this board is either bashing someones thread or just plain negative in general.

What exactly is your purpose here? What do you get out of being a member here anyway?

[Rogers22]

He's only spent 2 years in the league. And his legal issues have not been proven.

Give him another couple years and then we'll decide.