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FootballGuy2677
March-25th-2006, 08:47 PM
Do you guys think Clinton Portis has a realistic shot at either the Hall Of Fame or the All-Time NFL Rushing Record? I think he has the skill to break the record but I think its gonna be interesting to see whether his body can hold up.


As for the Hall Of Fame I think he will for the following reasons...


1. Consistently puts up over 1400 Yard Seasons
2. Consistently puts up over 10+ Touchdown Seasons
3. Media Loves him
4. The best pass blocking Running Backs in the league, takes linebackers straight off their feet.
5. Is a threat to take it to the house or break a huge run/pass any game.
6. Team Leader


All I see him needing to do is win a Super Bowl, especially with a coach like Joe Gibbs. He'll do it though.

So what do you think? Can he get either of them?

USDsk8ter123
March-25th-2006, 08:56 PM
at the pace that he is going at, and the things he is doing on the field when he doesnt have the ball, he should be in the HOF if his body can hold up.:2cents:

NorthFlaCane
March-25th-2006, 09:05 PM
Clinton is averaging 1482.5 yds per season through 4 years.

If he can put up 4 more years at the same pace then put together a few more modest seasons, he'll be good for the hall.

But runningbacks tend to break down after year 6-7, so we'll see.

nace14
March-25th-2006, 09:07 PM
what gives him a great shot is what he does without the ball. analysts today do not pay as much attention to what the backs do without the ball as hall of fame voters. i don't think that commentators today don't recognize his blocking and recieving, but the hall voters pride themselves on looking at the players as a whole. so if he continues to put up 1400 and stays healthy for another 7 seasons or so, i think he has a great shot.

edgun88
March-25th-2006, 09:08 PM
If Clinton has another season like the way he got beat up last season, there won't be any run for the title. He got completely worn out last season. He needs to learn how to take less hits.

GOSKINS_08
March-25th-2006, 09:10 PM
I think Portis should almost be a lock for the Hall Of Fame.

FootballGuy2677
March-25th-2006, 09:15 PM
Clinton is averaging 1482.5 yds per season through 4 years.

If he can put up 4 more years at the same pace then put together a few more modest seasons, he'll be good for the hall.

But runningbacks tend to break down after year 6-7, so we'll see.


Scary thing is though, it looks like Clinton Portis might be just entering his prime with the Al Saunders+offense we have now.

GiantsFanMan
March-25th-2006, 09:17 PM
whats Portis 24-25? He has like 6,000 yards so far. You need about 13,000 to be a sure in to the HOF. So figure the wheels tend to fall off a RB at 30. So be generous and give portis 1500 yards for the next 6 years thats 9,000 yards add 6 to that gives ya about 15,000 yards give or take. He could be a HOF but dont think he going to catch Emmitt. God damn Emmitt has alot of yards.

scruffylookin
March-25th-2006, 09:23 PM
Setting the rushing record will be tough, but possible.

As for the Hall of Fame. Right now, no question his career is on a Hall of Fame pace. Unless he has a serious injury or his quirkyness morphs from harmless fun to "Ricky Williams", Clinton Portis will have the career numbers before the age of 30 to deserve entry into the Hall of Fame.

Whether the voters actually put him in.........that's another question. :doh:

FootballGuy2677
March-25th-2006, 09:27 PM
Setting the rushing record will be tough, but possible.

As for the Hall of Fame. Right now, no question his career is on a Hall of Fame pace. Unless he has a serious injury or his quirkyness morphs from harmless fun to "Ricky Williams", Clinton Portis will have the career numbers before the age of 30 to deserve entry into the Hall of Fame.

Whether the voters actually put him in.........that's another question. :doh:


Yea really...Just a side note Art Monk has more recieving yards, catches, and yards after catch average than Marvin Harrison and has won a super bowl unlike Marvin Harrison and I though Marvin Harrison was a hall of famer? Anyway lets not turn this into a Art Monk for Hall Of Fame thread.

skinfan2k
March-25th-2006, 09:48 PM
i always wanted to do this. You should have search below and there is a exact thread on this issue. Man, how long i was waiting to do that to a member. JK, LOL.

FootballGuy2677
March-25th-2006, 10:09 PM
i always wanted to do this. You should have search below and there is a exact thread on this issue. Man, how long i was waiting to do that to a member. JK, LOL.

I dont see it:cool:

SkinsFanInSeattle
March-25th-2006, 10:31 PM
If he goes nuts next year and goes for like 1900+ yards, he will be on pace to beat the pants off of Emmitt.

FootballGuy2677
March-25th-2006, 10:39 PM
If he goes nuts next year and goes for like 1900+ yards, he will be on pace to beat the pants off of Emmitt.


I think hes gonna have a 1,800 Yard season so hopfully he outplays that and gets a 1,900 yard season. I really hope he breaks it becuase I hate saying to myself "Why does a Cowboy have to own that record?" Or "Why didnt Barry Sanders stay and break that record?" or even get as desperate as to hope Curtis Martin breaks it.

SkinsNoles21
March-25th-2006, 10:48 PM
he could break off a 2000 yard season at some point with saunders running the offense

CapitalDefense
March-25th-2006, 11:07 PM
If Clinton has another season like the way he got beat up last season, there won't be any run for the title. He got completely worn out last season. He needs to learn how to take less hits.

Sure he got worn down, as do just about every RB that starts every game in a season. It also didn't help that we had our bye during the regular season in week 3, so he played and was beat on for 16 straight weeks.

Please explain to me how a RB is gonna learn to take less hits??

IBleedBurgundy&Gold
March-25th-2006, 11:20 PM
"Sure he got worn down, as do just about every RB that starts every game in a season. It also didn't help that we had our bye during the regular season in week 3, so he played and was beat on for 16 straight weeks."

good point u beat me to it. A big reason Clinton's #'s slowed down had to do with R Thomas's injury. I don't know if he'll catch up to Emmit but he could easily go past Barry Sander's #'s. Barrry was the best running back I a have seen. Tell me that run where Portis held onto his lineman's shirt and kept going wasn't Barry like.

edgun88
March-25th-2006, 11:31 PM
Sure he got worn down, as do just about every RB that starts every game in a season. It also didn't help that we had our bye during the regular season in week 3, so he played and was beat on for 16 straight weeks.

Please explain to me how a RB is gonna learn to take less hits??

Look at him during the Philly game. His shoulders were so bruised by week 17 that he couldn't even take a hit. To answer your question , The way he could take less hits is stepping out of bounds instead of taking a head on collision with two linebackers (unless of course it's 3rd down and we need the yardage). See my point now. He needs to conserve his body more so he can last 20 weeks.

Jordash
March-26th-2006, 01:14 AM
Gonna sneak this in one more time. If he gets 1300+ yards this season he will be the first running back ever to get 1300 in each of his first 5 seasons.

Jordash
March-26th-2006, 01:25 AM
Oh, and by the way. Time it took for Tiki to get 1300 yards: 3.5 years. Westbrook: 3. Mmmm CP.

bschurm
March-26th-2006, 01:32 AM
FootbalGuy2677, love the enthusiasm, but CP has not had ten touchdowns in any season as a Redskin.


Now as far as the record and HOF goes, since Saunders does spread the field with his offense, CP will not have run up the gut nearly as much as he did the past two years. And because of this, he will not get pounded by the tackles in the middle of the field nearly as much. So with this in mind, I think his chance of more yards and more touchdowns is inevitable as well as his longevity.

So I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him go far. HOF, rushing record, I hope so.

jtyler42
March-26th-2006, 04:26 AM
He definately can be a HoF'er...He's only 24 I think and has at least 6-7 more really productive yrs left in him, the key will be to find a suitable back to take some carries away from him...Hopefully w/Al Saunders as our O-coordinator he will be able to do more w/less carries ala Priest Holmes and Marshall Faulk...

jacobyjoe
March-26th-2006, 07:29 AM
Please explain to me how a RB is gonna learn to take less hits??

Use Betts more?

ChiefPowhatan17
March-26th-2006, 07:46 AM
I think that if he can keep up the production for at least 11 years total he will be a shoe in. Of course he is a REDSKIN which maybe makes it a great deal harder to get recognition. Plus he needs a championship and to perform well in the SB to really get in. He might need 2 SB's cause that seems to be a major factor in getting in the HOF.:helmet:

IBleedBurgundy&Gold
March-26th-2006, 07:56 AM
I think that if he can keep up the production for at least 11 years total he will be a shoe in. Of course he is a REDSKIN which maybe makes it a great deal harder to get recognition. Plus he needs a championship and to perform well in the SB to really get in. He might need 2 SB's cause that seems to be a major factor in getting in the HOF.:helmet:


If we keep winning the recognition will be there.And so will all the BAndwagon jumpers.


:point2sky :point2sky :point2sky

FootballGuy2677
March-26th-2006, 08:09 AM
"Sure he got worn down, as do just about every RB that starts every game in a season. It also didn't help that we had our bye during the regular season in week 3, so he played and was beat on for 16 straight weeks."

good point u beat me to it. A big reason Clinton's #'s slowed down had to do with R Thomas's injury. I don't know if he'll catch up to Emmit but he could easily go past Barry Sander's #'s. Barrry was the best running back I a have seen. Tell me that run where Portis held onto his lineman's shirt and kept going wasn't Barry like.


Yea I dont mean to be an extreme homer and compare Clinton Portis to Barry Sanders but did you see in the Detroit Lions game last year here was running to the side and nobody could catch him he was running so fast then when he was gonna get tackled he pulled a reggie bush like-move on the linebacker and then started running back again for an extra 7 or 9 yards. It was pretty impressive...

Bhutanibeast
March-26th-2006, 08:37 AM
FootbalGuy2677, love the enthusiasm, but CP has not had ten touchdowns in any season as a Redskin.


Now as far as the record and HOF goes, since Saunders does spread the field with his offense, CP will not have run up the gut nearly as much as he did the past two years. And because of this, he will not get pounded by the tackles in the middle of the field nearly as much. So with this in mind, I think his chance of more yards and more touchdowns is inevitable as well as his longevity.

So I wouldn't be a bit surprised to see him go far. HOF, rushing record, I hope so.

im pretty sure CP had 11 touchdowns this year in the regular season.

Mr. S
March-26th-2006, 09:40 AM
with our line gelled one year now, and if they can all hopefully remain healthy, I dont see how Portis cant have over 1500 yards again, if not more.

speedmike
March-26th-2006, 10:38 AM
Agreed. Not saying that Clinton doesn't have a shot at the HoF, but we're definitely far from considering that one. I hope he breaks out this year and produces big numbers this year. Hail!

Sailskipper
March-26th-2006, 10:55 AM
Portis has a shot at the Hall of Fame...but he would really need to change somthing to threaten the rushiog title. He is a good ways off from that, and he gets ingured and worn out befor he even gets close.

scruffylookin
March-26th-2006, 11:01 AM
FootbalGuy2677, love the enthusiasm, but CP has not had ten touchdowns in any season as a Redskin.

He had 11 in 2005.

CapitalDefense
March-26th-2006, 12:03 PM
Look at him during the Philly game. His shoulders were so bruised by week 17 that he couldn't even take a hit. To answer your question , The way he could take less hits is stepping out of bounds instead of taking a head on collision with two linebackers (unless of course it's 3rd down and we need the yardage). See my point now. He needs to conserve his body more so he can last 20 weeks.

Yes I see your point but I disagree with it. In my opinion every time a RB touches the football he should get every single inch that he can. Lets say its 2nd down an 9, Portis gets the ball and sweeps left, instead of taking on the LB and trying to get the 1st down he runs out of bounds after a gain of 8 to avoid a hit. That brings you to 3rd and 1, which is a running down, so Portis is gonna have to run another down to get that 1 yard. This run is gonna be right up the middle and he is gonna get hit then. So either take the hit on 2nd and 9 or 3rd and 1, no difference


good point u beat me to it. A big reason Clinton's #'s slowed down had to do with R Thomas's injury.
Use Betts more?

Both of these quotes go together, I believe it was Betts than ran right at R Thomas and rolled him up when he was injured. He did not do it intentionally but he did it none the less. Lets give Portis the ball more often than not, at least he will hit opposing LB's and not our own lineman....:D

Another thing that would help us heal up a little bit is if we get a good draw on the bye week this year, it was way to early last year, week 3. Somewhere between 6-10 would be great, then a first round bye in the playoffs would do wonders as well.:applause:

IM A REDSKIN FAN
March-26th-2006, 12:22 PM
Id worry about Art Monk first....


Clinton---if his body can hold up.....

FootballGuy2677
March-26th-2006, 12:26 PM
Id worry about Art Monk


first....


Clinton---if his body can hold up.....


Read one of my earlier post in this thread about Art Monk...****ed up isnt it?

IM A REDSKIN FAN
March-26th-2006, 12:30 PM
It sickens me when I hear T.O. should be in the HOF and Monk has to wait this long....great point you made about Harrison and Monk....just show the media's "love" for the Redskins :mad: .....

Lombardi's_kid_brother
March-27th-2006, 08:48 AM
Do you guys think Clinton Portis has a realistic shot at either the Hall Of Fame or the All-Time NFL Rushing Record? I think he has the skill to break the record but I think its gonna be interesting to see whether his body can hold up.


As for the Hall Of Fame I think he will for the following reasons...


1. Consistently puts up over 1400 Yard Seasons
2. Consistently puts up over 10+ Touchdown Seasons
3. Media Loves him
4. The best pass blocking Running Backs in the league, takes linebackers straight off their feet.
5. Is a threat to take it to the house or break a huge run/pass any game.
6. Team Leader


All I see him needing to do is win a Super Bowl, especially with a coach like Joe Gibbs. He'll do it though.

So what do you think? Can he get either of them?

You are going to feel really guilty if he blows a knee in the pre-season.

SteelerSkins
March-27th-2006, 09:13 AM
i think we are really getting ahead of ourselves here . . . i want to see him go to canton as much as the next gvuy, but he has to either put up undeniable numbers (a dinstinct possibility) or win a title . . . he's the main cog that makes the engine go, but let's not get to crazy . . . yet . . .

TheDane
March-27th-2006, 09:24 AM
You are going to feel really guilty if he blows a knee in the pre-season.

Not as guilty as you, for being the first humongous noodge to actually write something like that :doh:.

Abshir
March-27th-2006, 09:52 AM
You are going to feel really guilty if he blows a knee in the pre-season.

Now why would you even talk like that !!!! Man I tell ya dont start with that negativity.

CP is going to have a hell of a year..... as will our defense and special teams.... We all are cautious about errant statements however, please refrain from those garbage thoughts... Thanks