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talk show host
March-31st-2006, 08:26 AM
They just lost a 2nd starter from their offensive line to the bucs. Bledsoe isnt mobile. Our defense just got a pimp blitzing safety and a stud pass rushing DE. I predict 5 sacks in our first game vs dallas.

Over or under?

CPstretch
March-31st-2006, 08:29 AM
their line got slightly worse, but will get flozell adams back from injury which will help them. they got probably the best WR in the game. our D got better, but so did their O. it will be hard to tell.

talk show host
March-31st-2006, 08:31 AM
their line got slightly worse, but will get flozell adams back from injury which will help them. they got probably the best WR in the game. our D got better, but so did their O. it will be hard to tell.

TO can't get the ball if drew bledsoe is lying on his back

CPstretch
March-31st-2006, 08:33 AM
TO can't get the ball if drew bledsoe is lying on his back

:applause: :applause: :cheers: :cheers:

IrishOrange15
March-31st-2006, 08:38 AM
They just lost a 2nd starter from their offensive line to the bucs. Bledsoe isnt mobile. Our defense just got a pimp blitzing safety and a stud pass rushing DE. I predict 5 sacks in our first game vs dallas.

Over or under?

Tucker really wasn't a starter and he isn't actually gone as Dallas has the right to first refusal.

Before the Bucs gave Tucker an offer sheet, the projected starting O-Line looked like this:

Flozell
Kosier
Al Johnson
Marco Rivera
Jason Fabini

It still looks that way even if Tucker goes to the Bucs.

Rich.........

CPstretch
March-31st-2006, 08:39 AM
im really glad larry allen is gone. he was old but he could still get the job done

RedskinsNation
March-31st-2006, 08:40 AM
I think we will split the season series with them.

TO makes average quarterbacks look good.....Terry Glenn is no slouch as a #2 WR.

Their Offense is no joke.....Bledsoe is no worse than Brunell......I think they are both about equal.

VaK9Trainer
March-31st-2006, 08:41 AM
Tucker really wasn't a starter and he isn't actually gone as Dallas has the right to first refusal.

Before the Bucs gave Tucker an offer sheet, the projected starting O-Line looked like this:

Flozell
Kosier
Al Johnson
Marco Rivera
Jason Fabini

It still looks that way even if Tucker goes to the Bucs.

Rich.........


Aside from Flozell....not much there to strike fear in anyone:dallasuck

Bryan_Randall
March-31st-2006, 08:49 AM
They just lost a 2nd starter from their offensive line to the bucs. Bledsoe isnt mobile. Our defense just got a pimp blitzing safety and a stud pass rushing DE. I predict 5 sacks in our first game vs dallas.

Over or under?

Losing Torrin Tucker is a plus. He was only starting because Flozell went down. Our projected starting OL going into next season is better than the one that gave up 0 sacks to the Skins in Week 2 last year. Flozell will be healthy, Kosier is a better pass blocker and more mobile than Allen, Al Johnson is hitting the weight room and adding strength (at least that's what the word is), Rivera should be 100% healed from his back injury, and Fabini is an upgrade of 10000 times over Rob Pettiti and doesn't need to be coddled like Pettiti did. If the line stays healthy they are certainly good enough.

IrishOrange15
March-31st-2006, 08:55 AM
Aside from Flozell....not much there to strike fear in anyone:dallasuck

I did a statistical study of O-Linemen in 2004 and 2005. It basically took footballoutsider.com's rushing adjusted line yards and subtracted the yards lost (sacks yards allowed + penalty yards allowed).

Now, Fabini is a bit older now, but in 2004 he finished easily in the top 5 left tackles in the game. In fact, on runs behind LT and to the right defensive end (running areas of main responsibility for LT's), the Jets finished 1st that year.

If anything from what I noticed, he's probably an average to slightly above average in pass protection from the left side. However, it's apparent that Fabini is best off playing the right tackle spot.

He could wind up stinking up the joint, but I can definitely see why Dallas signed him.

Rich.........

ceekay84
March-31st-2006, 09:21 AM
+1 i think the skinz will 0wn the cowboys!

IM A REDSKIN FAN
March-31st-2006, 09:26 AM
Hellll YEAH! :applause:

drowland
March-31st-2006, 09:58 AM
Kosier was a solid pickup for Dallas. Very underrated player. When healthy, Rivera's still one of the better guards in football. Losing Tucker doesn't hurt them much at all. Phillip Daniels had half his sacks against him last year. Adams is a solid LT.

With TO, Witten and Glenn in there, Dallas should have a good offense.

cnhnyy
March-31st-2006, 10:06 AM
What? Tucker is gone?? I was praying Tucker will play against us again this season. I mean, he gave up four sacks to Daniels, three sack to Cole, two sacks to Osi etc etc. This guy gave up most sacks in NFl despite only played 10 games. Flo/Fabini are way better than Tucker/Pettie.


Remeber, when we first played girls last season, Flo was playing and pettie got help from TE. We could not sniff close to bledsore in that game.

I mean, no offense to Daniels, but an OT giving up 4 sacks in a game against Daniels is liking a CB giving up 250 yards to Jacobs. Trust me, we want Tucker remains a cowgirl.

cnhnyy
March-31st-2006, 10:13 AM
on a side note, if Tucker starts as OT for Bucs on Thxgiving day, he will be facing D. Ware and it won't be pretty.

DBoys
March-31st-2006, 10:21 AM
I think the games this year will be straight up old school slug fests

skinswin1
March-31st-2006, 10:23 AM
I see Bledsoe as a year older, a year less mobile then the last. Also, the QB's mobility has been part of T.O.'s success also. With Bledsoe having no mobility, I don't think T.O. is going to be the force he was in other years.

I still see us sweeping the Cowboys. Their secondary still has Williams back there and we are going to get an issolation on him with one of our speed WR and he can't cover. They can't hide Williams forever. And other then Newman, they don't have any real CB that concern me.

I see Bledsoe on his back all day.

AllBusiness
March-31st-2006, 10:49 AM
T.O., T.O., T.O.. So what? He is cancer. Maybe as soon as mid-camp.
The best addition to their team is a Kicker.


We will sweep.

kingchris626
March-31st-2006, 11:02 AM
If we shut down TO we have a chance to completely shut them out

IrishOrange15
March-31st-2006, 11:07 AM
I actually feel a bit for Tucker. He played guard in college and they tried to move him to right tackle. His pass protection wasn't too bad over there, but playing over there basically as a rookie he was bound to be the weakest link on the O-Line that season.

Then he had to replace Flozell at left tackle which he's just not suited to play. I really think he could be a pretty good starting guard in this league and that's my bet as to where the Bucs will place him. But since he stunk at tackle because he was playing woefully out of position, most Cowboys fans think he's the worst O-Lineman ever.


Rich.......

WeownU
March-31st-2006, 11:16 AM
I see Bledsoe as a year older, a year less mobile then the last. Also, the QB's mobility has been part of T.O.'s success also. With Bledsoe having no mobility, I don't think T.O. is going to be the force he was in other years.

I still see us sweeping the Cowboys. Their secondary still has Williams back there and we are going to get an issolation on him with one of our speed WR and he can't cover. They can't hide Williams forever. And other then Newman, they don't have any real CB that concern me.

I see Bledsoe on his back all day.

There is no doubt that a quarterbacks mobility is a part of TO's success. But what wide recievers doesn't benefit from a quarterback who can move in the pocket? Duh !!! TO will do just fine.

I would put up the Cowboys secondary against anyone in the league. You obviously don't know much about football. Anthony Henry? Roy Williams, Terrance Newman? Hello.....anybody home?

You all seem to think Roy gets burned all the time because of what happened against Santana. Let me ask you one question. What Saftely in the league can run with Santana or any of the other really fast recievers? Zero, Ziltch, Nada. Quit acting like Roy is the only safety in the league who's been burnt.

RiggoReincarnated
March-31st-2006, 11:24 AM
They just lost a 2nd starter from their offensive line to the bucs. Bledsoe isnt mobile. Our defense just got a pimp blitzing safety and a stud pass rushing DE. I predict 5 sacks in our first game vs dallas.

Over or under?

Their starter that they lost (Tucker) was more of a liability then a help.

santana_4_prez
March-31st-2006, 11:41 AM
Bledsoe will spend more time on his back then Jenna Jameson...

skinswin1
March-31st-2006, 01:19 PM
There is no doubt that a quarterbacks mobility is a part of TO's success. But what wide recievers doesn't benefit from a quarterback who can move in the pocket? Duh !!! TO will do just fine.

I would put up the Cowboys secondary against anyone in the league. You obviously don't know much about football. Anthony Henry? Roy Williams, Terrance Newman? Hello.....anybody home?

You all seem to think Roy gets burned all the time because of what happened against Santana. Let me ask you one question. What Saftely in the league can run with Santana or any of the other really fast recievers? Zero, Ziltch, Nada. Quit acting like Roy is the only safety in the league who's been burnt.

Anthony Henry??? Like he's someone we need to be concerned about.:rolleyes: Please. Cowboys secondary is like 7-eleven to us: ALWAYS FREAKIN OPEN!!!!

And if you look at all of T.O. biggest plays, they start with the QB buying time with his legs, Bledsoe isn't that type of QB so T.O. won't be as effective as in the past IMO. And Roy Williams will be targeted because we are in his head now so he will be open to getting eaten up again. :dallasuck Were sweeping the deadcows again. Put it in the book!

SkinsNoles21
March-31st-2006, 03:14 PM
I think the games this year will be straight up old school slug fests

I think it will be straight up the Skins dominating the boys two times this year.

SkinsNoles21
March-31st-2006, 03:17 PM
What Saftely in the league can run with Santana or any of the other really fast recievers? Zero, Ziltch, Nada. Quit acting like Roy is the only safety in the league who's been burnt.

Ok so thats good for us, that means roy will continue to get burnt by Santana and the rest of our arsenal, and so will the rest of the NFL. Also our safety, Sean Taylor, can run with any receiver in the NFL thats why we think Roy sucks because he gets torched. If you don't think ST can run with anyone then go back the Skins VS Raiders and watch him cover R. Moss one on one

Jahbird
March-31st-2006, 03:28 PM
I dont care who ends up with the tucker guy...I hate tampa as much as the Cowpatties...Jon Gruden should enter one of those crazy face competitions where the old drunk irish men try to get their brow to touch their bottom lip...as far as our d-line vs their O-line, we have the upper hand based on the chemistry our d-line is developing right now...plus confidence based on 2 legendary victories doesnt hurt.

Jahbird
March-31st-2006, 03:29 PM
oh and superior coaching

Mr. S
March-31st-2006, 03:32 PM
until we get a solid nickel CB, another safety for depth (not as worried about this if the nickel CB is found), and another solid LB (Holdman does not count), then our defense is still at a weakness. Carter and Daniels need to remain healthy, as does Corny and Big Joe. We lose Marcus or Marshall, we are screwed there. We lose any of our starting secondary, we are screwed there as well.

TO is still hard to stop no matter what, I have enough confidence we can stop him only if our secondary is intact.

painfulyetloyal
March-31st-2006, 03:35 PM
under. I predict four.

painfulyetloyal
March-31st-2006, 03:37 PM
There is no doubt that a quarterbacks mobility is a part of TO's success. But what wide recievers doesn't benefit from a quarterback who can move in the pocket? Duh !!! TO will do just fine.

I would put up the Cowboys secondary against anyone in the league. You obviously don't know much about football. Anthony Henry? Roy Williams, Terrance Newman? Hello.....anybody home?

You all seem to think Roy gets burned all the time because of what happened against Santana. Let me ask you one question. What Saftely in the league can run with Santana or any of the other really fast recievers? Zero, Ziltch, Nada. Quit acting like Roy is the only safety in the league who's been burnt.


Roy's not the only safety in the league to get burnt, but he is the only moron to get burnt on the same exact play on consecutive series, to lose the game no less!

JMUGator19
March-31st-2006, 03:42 PM
You can project how games will go all you like, all day long, but in the end of the day, everyone in the NFL is a proffesional; All the coaches, all of the players are the best in the world. On any given weekend, the worst team can beat the best team. Anyone remember the raiders game? but on the other hand... who REALLY thinks the cowpukes are gonna win? hahaha

tehhunter
March-31st-2006, 03:59 PM
Man, I hope that we play Dallas at the beginning and end, like this year. It'd be so awesome, and such a confidence builder for the team to wallop a jerk like T.O.

MossFan89
March-31st-2006, 08:26 PM
TO can't get the ball if drew bledsoe is lying on his back

good idea lol:laugh:

Joe Sick
April-1st-2006, 12:46 AM
TO will destroy the Cowboys offense this year!

/Can't believe no one said it yet...

Coach Williams
April-1st-2006, 12:53 AM
I guess my years of gambling have enlightened me from the impulsive , homeristic view of the commoners on ES.

I love how people think were #1 but it's gonna be much closer this year......

TheUTaylor
April-1st-2006, 01:25 AM
I did a statistical study of O-Linemen in 2004 and 2005. It basically took footballoutsider.com's rushing adjusted line yards and subtracted the yards lost (sacks yards allowed + penalty yards allowed).

Thanks for that info, Rich! I didn't know much about the Cowboys O-Line and that's good info over most of the other posts which are just homer predictions. I can do that just fine for myself. Info like this is priceless. Any info on the Skins O-Line?

cowboyuptx
April-1st-2006, 05:32 AM
Ok so thats good for us, that means roy will continue to get burnt by Santana and the rest of our arsenal, and so will the rest of the NFL. Also our safety, Sean Taylor, can run with any receiver in the NFL thats why we think Roy sucks because he gets torched. If you don't think ST can run with anyone then go back the Skins VS Raiders and watch him cover R. Moss one on one

Archuleta plays the same position as Roy, and if you think Williams cant play in coverage..... boy are you gonna be pissed the Skins gave Archuleta all that scratch. That dude is TOAST!

If Taylor's so much better than Roy...... then why did Roy have more Tackles, Interceptions, Sacks, Forced Fumbles and TD's? The only statistical advantage Taylor had over Williams last year, was in Pass Deflections 10 to 7.

matt2190
April-1st-2006, 06:17 AM
They just lost a 2nd starter from their offensive line to the bucs. Bledsoe isnt mobile. Our defense just got a pimp blitzing safety and a stud pass rushing DE. I predict 5 sacks in our first game vs dallas.

Over or under?

Carter is a solid DE. I don't think he is a stud with only one year double digit sacks in all the years he has been in the league.

matt2190
April-1st-2006, 06:24 AM
I see Bledsoe as a year older, a year less mobile then the last. Also, the QB's mobility has been part of T.O.'s success also. With Bledsoe having no mobility, I don't think T.O. is going to be the force he was in other years.

I still see us sweeping the Cowboys. Their secondary still has Williams back there and we are going to get an issolation on him with one of our speed WR and he can't cover. They can't hide Williams forever. And other then Newman, they don't have any real CB that concern me.

I see Bledsoe on his back all day.

Glenn is old but still a very good cover corner for the boys.

matt2190
April-1st-2006, 06:29 AM
There is no doubt that a quarterbacks mobility is a part of TO's success. But what wide recievers doesn't benefit from a quarterback who can move in the pocket? Duh !!! TO will do just fine.

I would put up the Cowboys secondary against anyone in the league. You obviously don't know much about football. Anthony Henry? Roy Williams, Terrance Newman? Hello.....anybody home?

You all seem to think Roy gets burned all the time because of what happened against Santana. Let me ask you one question. What Saftely in the league can run with Santana or any of the other really fast recievers? Zero, Ziltch, Nada. Quit acting like Roy is the only safety in the league who's been burnt.

Roy did not have to run with anybody. He was supposed to sit back in a deep zone and wait for someone to come to him. Instead he got sucked in and allowed a deep catch twice.