Three Team Playoff Division: NFC East

[TNewman41]

Hello. I know I'm a Cowboys fan, but I come with respect for the Skins. I just wanted to share my opinion on how next season will turn up. I think the NFC East will have three playoff teams next year. The division winner could go any of three ways between the Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants. The Eagles are slightly behind. Then the remaining two teams will be the Wild Card. I know you guys hate the Cowboys, but I'm trying to be fair and objective. So please give me your actual thoughts on how our division will shape up next year. And if you seriously think the Cowboys are overrated, then that's fine, if that's what you truly believe.

[skinfan2k]

skins giants and cowboys fail to make the playoffs. i just thikn that each team in the east will beat up each other.. i see other teams like the panthers, viks and bucs competing for other wildcard spots. U aslo have to watch out for zona

[TNewman41]

skins giants and cowboys fail to make the playoffs. i just thikn that each team in the east will beat up each other.. i see other teams like the panthers, viks and bucs competing for other wildcard spots. U aslo have to watch out for zona

So do you think the Eagles will win the division?

[PresidentClinton07]

Your absolutly right about how its gonna be a tough division. But I dont think three will get in because theres other great teams in the NFC like the Panthers, Seahawks and Bears. Not to mention theres always one suprise. But if two get in from our division , its probaly gonna be the Redskins and yall. I dont think the Giants will have the performances they had last year from some of their players , like Barber and Uminoria .

But dude I have a question for you- Who do you think is the better cornerback truthfully- Shawn Springs or Terrance Newman? ---------I ask this because almost every Cowboy fan seems to believe that Newman is better . And I have no clue why yall think he is.

HAIL ALL DAY ...EVERYDAY.

[skinfan2k]

So do you think the Eagles will win the division?

sorry. Cowboys fail to the make the playoffs, and redskins and giants fight for the title. i just think the cowboys line too shaky to keep bledsoe protected. I think TO will have a good effect on the team , however bledsoe will upset other members of the team.

Skins-GIants 9-12 wins area
Cowboys 8-9 wins. i thikn 9-7 would not make it here

[TNewman41]

Your absolutly right about how its gonna be a tough division. But I dont think three will get in because theres other great teams in the NFC like the Panthers, Seahawks and Bears. Not to mention theres always one suprise. But if two get in from our division , its probaly gonna be the Redskins and yall. I dont think the Giants will have the performances they had last year from some of their players , like Barber and Uminoria .

But dude I have a question for you- Who do you think is the better cornerback truthfully- Shawn Springs or Terrance Newman? ---------I ask this because almost every Cowboy fan seems to believe that Newman is better . And I have no clue why yall think he is.

HAIL ALL DAY ...EVERYDAY.

The Seahawks, Bears, and Panthers will all win their division in my opinion. The reason Cowboy fans think Newman is better than Springs his because of his shut down ability. Last year he allowed 0 touchdowns and allowed 25 yards per game. Springs is pretty good, but getting a little older. I'm not one of those Cowboy fans that thinks a player sucks just because he's a Redskin. Don't get me wrong, I think Springs is a great player. I just think Newman is better at this point in his career.

[paintrain]

I think the NFC East looks like this:
1. Washington 11-5
2. Dallas* 9-7
3. Giants 7-9
4. Eagles 7-9

*Wildcard
Washington is coming off of a 10 win season and have improved 2 of their key weaknesses. Regardless of the $$ spent, Lloyd and Randle-El are an improvement over Patten and Thrash. Andre Carter should provide a consistent pass rush which should free up Cornielus Griffin up the middle. Special teams still are a question with Frost and Hall. The elephant is the room is who will show up, Brunell of weeks 3-9 or from the playoffs. That is the key to the division.

The Cowboys still have problems IMO on the O-line. They have turned over 4/5 of the line in the past year.. Adams isn't getting any younger and coming off of an ACL injury.. J. Jones hasn't shown he can be healthy for 16 games yet, their WR are both over 32 and their QB is a statue. Also, it really looked like they quit at the end of the season last year. Defensively they will be extremely tough against the run but I think still vulnerable against the pass..

The Giants overachieved early in the season and dominated the weak AFC West teams they played. That's not going to happen this year against the NFC South. Road games at Carolina, Seattle, Atlanta and Jacksonville are going to be killers for the G-Men. Barber will be hard pressed to have a 1500 yard season again against that schedule. Finishing under .500 would not suprise me at all.

The Eagles are the least talented team in the division everywhere except the QB position. The lack of skill position players will cause a lot of close losses and questions about Andy Reid's future will crop up.

[PresidentClinton07]

The Seahawks, Bears, and Panthers will all win their division in my opinion. The reason Cowboy fans think Newman is better than Springs his because of his shut down ability. Last year he allowed 0 touchdowns and allowed 25 yards per game. Springs is pretty good, but getting a little older. I'm not one of those Cowboy fans that thinks a player sucks just because he's a Redskin. Don't get me wrong, I think Springs is a great player. I just think Newman is better at this point in his career.


Even tho I disagree...your point is well taken.

[Vi]

The Seahawks, Bears, and Panthers will all win their division in my opinion. The reason Cowboy fans think Newman is better than Springs his because of his shut down ability. Last year he allowed 0 touchdowns and allowed 25 yards per game. Springs is pretty good, but getting a little older. I'm not one of those Cowboy fans that thinks a player sucks just because he's a Redskin. Don't get me wrong, I think Springs is a great player. I just think Newman is better at this point in his career.

While I'm not sure I agree, you are a refreshingly reasonable Cowboys fan, man. Kudos for that.

I'd say two teams... don't know which two though. :laugh:

EDIT: 100th post... I'm camp fodder, WOO-HOO!

[Kosher Ham]

I see the Bucs winning the South. The Panthers still dont have a reliable RB, nor backup, and we wont even begin to discuss the backup QB, WRs, or any defensive depth.

The NFCE ? Up for grabs. All have good caoching, all have great players, and all are very close.



If you want a prediction :

Redskins 11-5
Cowboys 11-5
Eagles 10-6
Giants 10-6

Yep, that close.

[BestTravel]

My OBJECTIVE 2006 NFC Playoff PREDICTIONS...


Super Bowl XVI Champions:

:1stplace:Washington REDSKINS: 16-3



NFC Champions:

:1stplace:Washington REDSKINS: 15-3



NFC Division Champions:

:1stplace:Washington REDSKINS: 13-3, NFC East Champions (NFC #1 Seed)

Seattle SEAHAWKS: 12-4, NFC West Champions (NFC #2 Seed)

Carolina PANTHERS: 11-5, NFC South Champions (NFC #3 Seed)

Minnesota VIKINGS: 10-6 or 11-5, NFC North Champions (NFC #4 Seed)



NFC Wild Card Teams:


New York GIANTS: 11-5, NFC Wild Card (NFC #5 Seed)

Philadelphia EAGLES: 10-6, NFC Wild Card (NFC #6 Seed)


NFC Teams Battling (Yet, Missing NFC Playoffs) thru Week 17:


Dallas COWBOYS: 9-7, Barely-Missing NFC Wild Card

Chicago BEARS: 9-7, Barely-Missing NFC Wild Card

Tampa Bay BUCCANEERS: 9-7, Barely-Missing NFC Wild Card

Arizona CARDINALS: 9-7, Barely-Missing NFC Wild Card

[whatmeworry]

I just think the Cowboys with Parcells is reaching for one last gasp of glory (Hence the TO signng) with no concern about the future. You have huge question marks on both lines. Maybe you'll get lucky and the two FA signings on the OL will turn out better than it would appear at first glance but i doubt it. Seems to me most of your signings are short-term fixes with players facing the downward curve of their careers.
Actually you remind me of us five years ago.

[cowboyuptx]

I just think the Cowboys with Parcells is reaching for one last gasp of glory (Hence the TO signng) with no concern about the future. You have huge question marks on both lines. Maybe you'll get lucky and the two FA signings on the OL will turn out better than it would appear at first glance but i doubt it. Seems to me most of your signings are short-term fixes with players facing the downward curve of their careers.
Actually you remind me of us five years ago.

Huge questions on both lines??

There are no questions about the Dallas D-line. Ware is an excellent fit as a speed rusher in the 3-4. Spears is coming along nicely. Canty was the considered by most to be the best 3-4 DE in last years draft, he was also the steal of the draft. Throw in some stout vets like Greg Ellis and Jason Ferguson.... the D-line is set for now and for the future.

No doubt the O-line is full of ????? The signings on the OL are stop gaps at best, but Dallas will probably draft 3 or even 4 O-linemen in this years draft.

BTW at the end of 2005 the Skins were the 5th oldest team in the NFL, with an average age of 28.22. The Cowboys were the 11th youngest team in the NFL, with an average age of 26.28. That gap may have narrowed now that both teams have added players in the off-season, but these are the most up to date stats I could find.

[TNewman41]

Huge questions on both lines??

There are no questions about the Dallas D-line. Ware is an excellent fit as a speed rusher in the 3-4. Spears is coming along nicely. Canty was the considered by most to be the best 3-4 DE in last years draft, he was also the steal of the draft. Throw in some stout vets like Greg Ellis and Jason Ferguson.... the D-line is set for now and for the future.

No doubt the O-line is full of ????? The signings on the OL are stop gaps at best, but Dallas will probably draft 3 or even 4 O-linemen in this years draft.

BTW at the end of 2005 the Skins were the 5th oldest team in the NFL, with an average age of 28.22. The Cowboys were the 11th youngest team in the NFL, with an average age of 26.28. That gap may have narrowed now that both teams have added players in the off-season, but these are the most up to date stats I could find.

I definitly agree we have a good defensive front seven. It's gonna have to be reckoned with for years to come. The only question mark in my eyes is the O-line, which everyone realizes. But I'm really not worried about our defense right now. In fact, if we draft Manny Lawson, him and DeMarcus Ware could become the best OLB tandem in the league. Just my opinion, though.

[bulldog]

I think after the offseason moves, the Redskins have the most balanced team in the NFC East. The Redskins on offense have a veteran qb, capable receivers, a franchise back and a solid offensive line. The team has added a solid veteran blocking TE to replace Robert Royal, perhaps the weakest offensive starter in 2005.

On defense the team has a solid DL and secondary (assuming ST returns). Marcus Washington is one of the best linebackers in the NFL. Marshall is solid.

That leaves a hole at outside linebacker and the need for a #3 corner.

When you compare that list to what I see the other teams in the East needing for 2006, it is a short list :)

[stat2883]

While I'm happy with our starters in most of our positions, I'm concerned with the depth at a lot of them. A couple of injuries here and there and there's no telling what kind of effect it could have on us. I'm concerned with the overall depth of our defense and our O-line (especially if ST is lost). Of course, there's still some free agents out there (Fletcher) and the draft coming up. If we can get a good LB in the 2nd round and manage to make some smart picks with our later rounds for OL or defense and grab a couple serviceable free agents, then I'll be really happy. Every team has holes somewhere, its just a question of how well you mask them and play to your strengths.

well..that's a lot of 'ifs' :) Of course, if we stay relatively healthy, then its not such an issue.

[Mr. Nostril]

I think people are underestimating what the eagles can do in this division. They picked up Shawn Barber, Darren Howard, and Matt Schobel. I think that this combined with the fact they'll get healthy again bodes very well for them. They'll compete just fine with the other 3 teams. If any team lags behind in our division I think it will be the giants. They've just reamined stagnant. Unless the experience turns Eli Manning into something really special they should be number 4 in the division.

That said, I think the Redskins will win the division. They have the best coaching staff, they acquired the most talent this offseason, and they almost won last year.

I predict the rest of the division to be Cowboys, Eagles then Giants. See you guys in the playoffs.

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

Skins are taking the division by week 14........
The boys are nothing - their concern wasnt their wr or k .... more like an effective QB and better lines..
The eagles wont be the same - after all the injuries, they wont be the same....and TO really shot the moral of this team
Eli is overrated - this kid throws more inaccurate throws than anyone Ive seen.....he has a bad time reading and connecting, and the Giants definitely overacheived last year

[philal0102]

the biggest question on the cowboys team is the o-line. frankly... its terrible. TO will be disruptive because everytime bledsoe goes back to throw, he wont have enough time to get TO the ball. the team will go down this year because of the TO signing... but hey thats just my opinion.

[stat2883]

I can see Dallas getting off to a quick start, but leveling off or fading late in the year...just my opinion. As long as TO's getting his and they're winning, then he won't cause any problems. Once the line starts letting defenses at Bledsoe that will all change - I think their whole season is going to hinge on that OL. Their defense should be adequate if not pretty good.

[Enter Apotheosis]

At this point, it seems to me that the Skins have by far the least question marks (we kept a successful group of guys and added a few key elements) and are most likely to make the playoffs. The only issue we really have at this point is depth at CB and on the offensive line.

The Giants have to deal with a shaky defense and an aging Tiki Barber as well as Eli's continual development and inconsistency. However, I'd say that they probably have the second best chance at getting in.

The Cowboys have an awful, unstable offensive line and a lot of unreliable players sprinkled throughout the team. Bledsoe is a liability, TO is getting older and is a bit injury-prone, they have a bit of toss-up at running back (Julius Jones or Marion Barber?), and their secondary is not as strong as one would think is necessary to compete in the NFC East. I have them pegged to be at or above .500 but still missing the playoffs.

The Eagles, for some reason, strike me as a team that will do very well outside of the division. With McNabb healthy and better WR prospects than they had before TO came from San Fran, they're pretty much set to make a comeback. However, it's still pretty much the same (aging) team that went to the NFC Championship game several years running. Unfortunately, the rest of the division is not the same as it was back then and the Eagles won't be able to just saunter into the playoffs at this point. They're probably the hardest team to predict the success of... they could be major playoff contenders or they could very well fall into last place for the second year in a row (signaling a true return of the old NFC East :laugh: ).

[The Animal Trainer]

Redskins will win the division. Our weakness was reciever and we drastically improved it. Cowboys lack an OLine...its won in the trenches. Eagles have no recievers or running game. The giants will soon realize that eli, like peyton, will never win a big game in his carerr. The manning brothers are losers, plain and simple.

[matt2190]

I think people are underestimating what the eagles can do in this division. They picked up Shawn Barber, Darren Howard, and Matt Schobel. I think that this combined with the fact they'll get healthy again bodes very well for them. They'll compete just fine with the other 3 teams. If any team lags behind in our division I think it will be the giants. They've just reamined stagnant. Unless the experience turns Eli Manning into something really special they should be number 4 in the division.

That said, I think the Redskins will win the division. They have the best coaching staff, they acquired the most talent this offseason, and they almost won last year.

I predict the rest of the division to be Cowboys, Eagles then Giants. See you guys in the playoffs.

Let me get this straight. The Giants will go from winning the east to finish at the bottom the very next year. Unless the Giants get significant injuries that won't happen. They have solidified their defensive backfield and will choose a linebacker and Dt in the draft. The Giants will compete with the best in the NFC.

[cowboyuptx]

Let me get this straight. The Giants will go from winning the east to finish at the bottom the very next year. Unless the Giants get significant injuries that won't happen. They have solidified their defensive backfield and will choose a linebacker and Dt in the draft. The Giants will compete with the best in the NFC.

I agree. The Giants really helped their cause with the additions of McQuarters, Madison, and Demps. NY's a pretty solid team.

[bubba9497]

the Giants & cowboys won't math last years performancs

Giants 8-8/9-7

Cowboys 7-9

[Aghar]

I think we'll know more about all these teams after the first 4 games play out. Here's why.

Redskins : After the first 4 games it will be easy to grasp wether or not Brunell and the recievers, along with our new O-Coordinator are on the same page and able to execute the gameplan effectively. If they can, things will go well and I can honestly see them winning the division easily(13-3). If they can't, they will begin to question themselves and their ability(9-7).

Cowboys : Same thing. After 4 games they will know for sure wether or not Bledsoe is the QB for them. If his first 4 go well, look for Dallas to compete(9-7). If not, the strings begin to unwind and this team will be lucky to finish .500.

Eagles : Again, same thing. After the first 4 games we will know wether or not this team can bounce back from last years complete collapse. If they can compete in the first 4 look for them to be trouble the whole year(10-6). If not, their confidence will be shaky and they will continue to crumble.(7-9)

Giants : We will know alot about this team as well after the first 4 games. Can Eli grow up and actually carry this team on his shoulders when needed? Can Tiki have another year like 2005? Can the defense step up when asked? If 2 of these three aspects are seen in the first 4 games Gaints will also be tough(10-6). If not, questions in the locker room will take this team in a downward spiral to 8-8 at best.

All in all, if I had to predict now:

Redskins : 11-5
Gaints : 10-6
Eagles : 9-7
Cowboys : 8-8


Hail! :point2sky

[bedlamVR]

The G Men have the Manning question in that can he really become a consistant threat at QB like his brother because Barber at 31 isn't likely to keep up his current production though he has been improving over the last few years and I cannot see his production falling off a cliff and the offence is mostly intact. Defensivly they are good but not great . Strahan is getting older and the secondary help brought in are all the wrong side of 30 with the exception of Demps who was a nice pick up. The LB is still suspect but Peirce is soild. I really could see the Giants making a serious run at the NFCE divisional champs again especially with the fact the coaching staff is intact from last year .

The Eagles have the talent but do they really have what it takes to climb the mountin again. Consecutive years they have downgraded key positions getting Barber back is no big whoop had they retained him when they had the chance 3-4 years ago then yes it would be an impact signing but and older ansd more injured barber looking for one last pay check I am not convinced . Equally I am not convinced by the Howard signing a 30 year old DE who had 3.5 sacks last year that is 1.5 more than Kalu who they let go. The O line was not adressed Gafney is not going to be the best WR on the offece and even if he was they have him locked up for one year and Wetbrook could not get the running game going last year what chance does he have this? On top of this Childress the OC has gone and put all this together and I would say the Eagles look to repeat thier trip to the basement of the NFC again.

[MustangSteve]

I feel the Skins will take the division this season, we were limping through the late season and still had the heart to beat the NFC East in 3 back to back games, and win the Wild Card game in Tampa. We have Joe Gibbs, this is 100% his team and core players now, and the missing parts were added if FA and we still have a few draft picks, not to mention an all star coaching staff.

Dallas will be better with TO, no doubt about that. There O line is very shakey though and Bledsoe needs time to be accurate, but he still has a good arm. If he gets time to throw, TO will give teams fits. There Defense started last year skeery, they shut down all of the East Offenses in Texas, Thank God for Santana Moss ;-)

As far as NY, lets not forget they lost all there line backers late last year and still hung on to win the division. When they were healthy, they beat some dayum good teams and kicked our ass up there when we "were" healthy. No way would I call there season a fluke.

With Philly, who knows!!! Mcnabb will be healthy this year, so will Westbrook. We cant forget this is the same team that won the division 4 years in a row, and did NOT need TO to do it, they just have better competition in the East now. Teams will not pick on Philly like they did last year with out Mcnabb and Westbrook, they still have a good Defense too.

With out a doubt the NFC East is back and theres not a tougher division in football then this one. Which ever teams in the East end up in the Playoffs, they will all ready be battle tested for anyone, including the AFC Champions.

[CPstretch]

the nfc east games this year will be so crucial

[Eagles > Dallas]

The Eagles are the least talented team in the division everywhere except the QB position. The lack of skill position players will cause a lot of close losses and questions about Andy Reid's future will crop up.

Who did the eagles lose beside TO from the NFCCG's and SB run?

[shallyshal]

Hello. I know I'm a Cowboys fan, but I come with respect for the Skins. I just wanted to share my opinion on how next season will turn up. I think the NFC East will have three playoff teams next year. The division winner could go any of three ways between the Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants. The Eagles are slightly behind. Then the remaining two teams will be the Wild Card. I know you guys hate the Cowboys, but I'm trying to be fair and objective. So please give me your actual thoughts on how our division will shape up next year. And if you seriously think the Cowboys are overrated, then that's fine, if that's what you truly believe.

top to bottom.. the nfc east is the deepest conference this year. only problem will be if the teams keep beating each other up.. could end up having only 1 or 2 teams inthe playoffs that way...

nobody is going to want to see nfc east teams ontheir schedule this year, nobody...

[hailtotheredskins89826]

there is no way 3 teams from the east can get in, one team will have an 11-5 or better year while going atleast 4-2 or better in the division, which will hurt other teams...theres no way

[speedmike]

I have a prediction, and I believe it down to my bones.

Whichever team has the worst injury this year, will find themselves at the basement of the NFC East.

[CPstretch]

I have a prediction, and I believe it down to my bones.

Whichever team has the worst injury this year, will find themselves at the basement of the NFC East.

happened last year with the eagles. mcnabb was the heart and sole of their offense and losing him was costly. they also lost shepperd, pinkston and westbrook to injuries. and losing TO hurt a little too.

[CoachingWinsChampionships]

I just read through this entire thread... and you know what's missing? There has been only one mention of Al Saunders, and that was made almost in passing. We had the best defense in the NFC East last year(with the exception of the Tampa and Giant game where we gave up 36 points), that's pretty hard to argue against. What we lacked was consistent offense. We're like the reverse of what happened with the Colts last year, except we don't have Peyton at QB, so we at least have a chance to win some big games. I strongly believe that by bringing in the best offensive coordinator that could possibly be acquired, we're halfway home in fixing the offense. This isn't to say that the offense was Joe Gibbs fault, but look at Saunders production in KC. He's had his offense at the top of the league for a while now and I personally feel we have at least the same amount of talent here than he had for most of that time, especially with our free agent additions.

My prediction:
Redskins 14-2 (i'm not just being a homer here- I really think this will happen)
Giants 11-5/10-6
Cowboys 11-5/10-6
Eagles- 6-10

[atloldskin]

I think the Giants overachieved last year because Tiki was unstoppable. The Eagles are a wild card this year, but really lack some receivers and a running game. The Redskins and Cowboys are the teams to beat, but both of them must get decent play from their QB and be free of injuries. The Cowboy OL is also questionable.

[PotomacSkinsFan]

1. skins
2. eagles
3. cowboys
4. giant

im goin on a limb, and mcnab has a lot to prove this year. he'll be great.

[Tom [Giants fan]]

[Quote[The Giants overachieved early in the season and dominated the weak AFC West teams they played. That's not going to happen this year against the NFC South. Road games at Carolina, Seattle, Atlanta and Jacksonville are going to be killers for the G-Men. Barber will be hard pressed to have a 1500 yard season again against that schedule. Finishing under .500 would not suprise me at all.[/Quote]

Denver and Kansas City were weak teams? Really?

As far as questioning Eli, he played most of the second half of the season with a sore shoulder and elbow on his throwing arm. They said that is why he was throwing more side arm later in the year. He hurt it early on in the second half of the season and it bothered him the rest of the year. Plus, this guy studies game film and will make the necessary adjustments in his footwork.

I am still holding off opinion on what the Giants record will be until I see what they do with LB and DT.

[a_good_brotha]

While I believe the Redskins are the most talented team in the NFC East, it will be a tough division. The Giants did make some good offseason additions. Some of their players may be in their 30's but I don't see them falling off drastically. Adding TO makes Dallas better. As far as the Eagles go, they are coming back healthy. I don't see the WR corps being as much as a problem as others think. They went to 3 consecutive NFC Championship games with a lackluster WR corps and won the NFC during their 4th consecutive trip without TO. The whole time this team won the NFC East 4 consecutive years. It's true the NFC East has gotten much better since the days of Philly ruling the division, but I won't count them out just yet. Just my opinion.

[barens2]

Hello. I know I'm a Cowboys fan, but I come with respect for the Skins. I just wanted to share my opinion on how next season will turn up. I think the NFC East will have three playoff teams next year. The division winner could go any of three ways between the Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants. The Eagles are slightly behind. Then the remaining two teams will be the Wild Card. I know you guys hate the Cowboys, but I'm trying to be fair and objective. So please give me your actual thoughts on how our division will shape up next year. And if you seriously think the Cowboys are overrated, then that's fine, if that's what you truly believe.

I'm a Giants fan, and I believe it's going to come down to a little luck. Each team seems fairly tough at the moment, and with the draft coming up this month, it may be a little early for predictions.

I'm not quite certain as to how to look at the Cowboys so far. In some respects, I think they need a lot of help on the offensive side of the ball, but defensively, they have many pieces in place. Offensively, you need some upgrades on the interior offensive line, at the right tackle position, and you have to hope for a healthy return for Flozell Adams. This year, your WR's look like a force to be reckoned with, but it's got to be worrisome how that group with look in a year or 2. And finally, Cowboy fans have to know Bledsoe just isn't the answer, and at some point soon, you guys are going to have to make a move, either in the draft, free agency or through a trade, to get a future signal caller.

The Skins certainly look tough on paper, and I think they are going to go as far as their QB, whoever ends up being the starter, takes them. Brunell started off the year strong and refreshed, but he clearly wore down towards the end of the season. I think their depth at linebacker and in the defensive backfield may be a bit of a concern, especially with Shawn Spring injury record, and they'll need a little luck staying healthy. Otherwise, I think Gregg Williams is a fine DC, and gets the most out of Washington's defense. Their offense overall should be much improved, and I think adding Lloyd and Randle-el will improve the production of Portis.

The Giants, IMO, need 3 major things. A replacement for DT Kendric Clancy, an upgrade and depth at LB, and more consistency from Eli Manning. And hopefully, with the draft coming up, the Giants can take their shot at some players on the front 7. Manning, I've seen enough to be confident in his ability to play in the clutch, but I just hope he can maintain the physical rigors of the NFL, and not wear down to the extent that he did last season.

[bulldog]

the Redskins offense in 2005 did have Portis with 1,500 yards and Moss with 1,400.

let's not get on the bent that Washington is starting from zero in terms of talent on offense, okay? :laugh:

the fact is that right now the Redskins seem to have the fewest weaknesses on offense of all the East teams. and by and large the talent here is very young. Portis is 24, Moss is 26, Cooley is 24 and of the players added Lloyd is 24 and Randle El is 26.

Dallas' established talent on offense outside of Witten is old. That's a fact, plain and simple.

The Eagles don't have wideouts that challenge Santana Moss or Owens or Plaxico Burress. Westbrook is not the equal of Portis or Barber. The Eagles offensive line is getting older and has had some significant injury problems.

The Redskins and Giants are closest in offensive talent. Both have franchise backs. Both have ends in Shockey and Cooley that are very productive. Both have depth at wide receiver.

If I were to rank all the teams on their offensive potential for 2006 the Eagles would probably be #4.

[HoyaSkins28]

skins giants and cowboys fail to make the playoffs. i just thikn that each team in the east will beat up each other.. i see other teams like the panthers, viks and bucs competing for other wildcard spots. U aslo have to watch out for zona

The Vikings wont make the playoffs. Look at there QB position and their WR position, and even there RB position. Chestor Taylor sucks!

[Extreme]

Hello. I know I'm a Cowboys fan, but I come with respect for the Skins. I just wanted to share my opinion on how next season will turn up. I think the NFC East will have three playoff teams next year. The division winner could go any of three ways between the Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants. The Eagles are slightly behind. Then the remaining two teams will be the Wild Card. I know you guys hate the Cowboys, but I'm trying to be fair and objective. So please give me your actual thoughts on how our division will shape up next year. And if you seriously think the Cowboys are overrated, then that's fine, if that's what you truly believe.

as long as the skins end up on top, and you admit to seeing that coming, it's fine with me, i'm just gonna be so much happier when we sweep you again......oh yeah, and :dallasuck

[AllAboutSkins08]

i think the redskins will make it to the playoffs for sure, the giants will most likely make it to the playoffs and dallas could also be very close in making it to the playoffs. i honestly think that our offense is strait in all aspects (our weakest thing might be QB) and our defense has holes at CB and LB, but other than that we are definitely a playoff bound team. the giants have a lot of the same people they had before and few more to fill in holes and manning will have more experience. having tasted the playoffs he'll want some more, so i think they'll be our biggest competition. dallas has TO, but that's it. bledsoe is a good QB, but i don't think he's good enough, nor does he have a good enough o-line to protect him enough. and with no one to pass it to him, TO will be useless. the eagles just have nothing in my opinion. but we'll see what happens....

[BigRay]

I see the Bucs winning the South. The Panthers still dont have a reliable RB, nor backup, and we wont even begin to discuss the backup QB, WRs, or any defensive depth.

The NFCE ? Up for grabs. All have good caoching, all have great players, and all are very close.



If you want a prediction :

Redskins 11-5
Cowboys 11-5
Eagles 10-6
Giants 10-6

Yep, that close.


Foster is more than reliable if !!! and that is a big IF !! he can stay healthy..

[Kosher Ham]

Foster is more than reliable if !!! and that is a big IF !! he can stay healthy..

Well, when has that happened ? When has he stayed healthy ? Therefore unreliable.

The guy just has one freak injury after another.

[Zazzaro703]

All Three being in the same division i dont all three can make it because they will beat each other up too much.

[WeownU]

[QUOTE=paintrain]

The Giants overachieved early in the season and dominated the weak AFC West teams they played. That's not going to happen this year against the NFC South. QUOTE]


Remember, that same "Weak AFC South is the same AFC south you went 0-4 against.

[Kosher Ham]

[QUOTE=paintrain]

The Giants overachieved early in the season and dominated the weak AFC West teams they played. That's not going to happen this year against the NFC South. QUOTE]


Remember, that same "Weak AFC South is the same AFC south you went 0-4 against.

If you are going to call the man out at least do it correctly. It was the Freakin' AFC WEST.

And indeed the Redskins went 0-4.

But who sat home in January ? Here's a hint, it wasnt the Redskins.

Guess dominating the NFC East and having a great NFC record worked out for the best.

[WeownU]

I just read through this entire thread... and you know what's missing? There has been only one mention of Al Saunders, and that was made almost in passing. We had the best defense in the NFC East last year(with the exception of the Tampa and Giant game where we gave up 36 points), that's pretty hard to argue against. What we lacked was consistent offense. We're like the reverse of what happened with the Colts last year, except we don't have Peyton at QB, so we at least have a chance to win some big games. I strongly believe that by bringing in the best offensive coordinator that could possibly be acquired, we're halfway home in fixing the offense. This isn't to say that the offense was Joe Gibbs fault, but look at Saunders production in KC. He's had his offense at the top of the league for a while now and I personally feel we have at least the same amount of talent here than he had for most of that time, especially with our free agent additions.

My prediction:
Redskins 14-2 (i'm not just being a homer here- I really think this will happen)
Giants 11-5/10-6
Cowboys 11-5/10-6
Eagles- 6-10


Even if Saunders does a great job with the skins, 1. It would take at least 2 years be be anywhere near as effective as KC is offensively. And don't fool yourself, you don't have near the talent offensively as KC does.

What I find interesting on here is how many people think bledsoe's going to be on his back next year. How many sacks did you guys have on us the first game last year??????? None. Yes, thats right. NONE. It wasn't until our lineman started dropping like flies that we gave up a bunch of sacks.

Last time I checked, we picked up a couple free agents for our line, we'll most certainly draft a couple more, and last but not least, the guys that went down last year are all healthy now.

Like another poster said a couple threads back..............this whole division top to bottom could go either way. It all comes down to who is injured less and who has the best depth to cover up some injuries

[WeownU]

[QUOTE=WeownU]

If you are going to call the man out at least do it correctly. It was the Freakin' AFC WEST.

And indeed the Redskins went 0-4.

But who sat home in January ? Here's a hint, it wasnt the Redskins.

Guess dominating the NFC East and having a great NFC record worked out for the best.


So, when someone points out something you feel the need to change the subject do you? I was merely pointing out that for someone to say the giants got lucky against inferior teams, yet his team went 0-4, maybe it is time to rethink his philosophy....

But since again, I'm right, I'll go ahead and beat you to the punch by changing the subject again.......13-14 and 35-7

There you happy?

[Kosher Ham]

Even if Saunders does a great job with the skins, 1. It would take at least 2 years be be anywhere near as effective as KC is offensively. And don't fool yourself, you don't have near the talent offensively as KC does.

Really ? As proven by what exactly ? Are you freakin' kidding me ?


What I find interesting on here is how many people think bledsoe's going to be on his back next year. How many sacks did you guys have on us the first game last year??????? None. Yes, thats right. NONE. It wasn't until our lineman started dropping like flies that we gave up a bunch of sacks.

And they have just lost a perennial pro-bowler (just throwing that in for effect, because I think the probowl is a farce :silly: ) . Granted he was old and not worth the coin, but he was a veteran that was still pretty solid. Not exactly like the Cowboys have re-signed any players on the cusp like Witten, etc. Not like the Cowboys were or are against the cap right now.


Last time I checked, we picked up a couple free agents for our line, we'll most certainly draft a couple more, and last but not least, the guys that went down last year are all healthy now.

So you expect to draft OL in the first round ? After getting 2 new guys in FA ? Possible but not likely. There is a glaring hole at the safety position for the Cowboys, there is still the need for a REAL 3-4 DT. Ehh, call me skeptical. And if not the first round, are you expecting later round OL players to make an immediate impact ? We saw how well Pettiti played last season. Yes the Cowboys line will be healthy again, but the ones that went down arent exactly getting any younger either.


Like another poster said a couple threads back..............this whole division top to bottom could go either way. It all comes down to who is injured less and who has the best depth to cover up some injuries

So who has the best depth ? No one really. Redskins lost a G late in the year and it changed the play calling. Cowboys lost a T mid-season and it really hampered the passing game, Giants lost LB's left and right, their rush D suffered, Eagles lost starting WR, QB, and RB, not to mention the backup RB being out again. The way the NFL is now depth is the hardest thing to have.

[Kosher Ham]

[QUOTE=SkinsandTerps]


So, when someone points out something you feel the need to change the subject do you? I was merely pointing out that for someone to say the giants got lucky against inferior teams, yet his team went 0-4, maybe it is time to rethink his philosophy....

But since again, I'm right, I'll go ahead and beat you to the punch by changing the subject again.......13-14 and 35-7

There you happy?

haha. You obviously didnt understand what I posted.

I am not talking about the freakin' Giants. Nor am I saying they were lucky or whatever. They played pretty good ball for the majority of the season.

The point was that you are calling him out about losing 4 games to the AFC South. Guess what ? The Redskins didnt play any AFC South teams last year.

EDIT: And is would be 14-13 and 35-7, or 7-35 and 13-14. Just so you know. The losing team goes either first or last, not both when comparing.

[Conquistador]

My OBJECTIVE 2006 NFC Playoff PREDICTIONS...


Super Bowl XVI Champions:

:1stplace:Washington REDSKINS: 16-3




You must think that we're pretty good, especially if we win the 1981 World Title. :notworthy (Don't tell the 49ers that we're going to steal one of their trophys) :laugh:

Heres to a Super Bowl XLI Title (that's the 2006 title if you're counting at home):cheers:

[DoGood28]

skins giants and cowboys fail to make the playoffs. i just thikn that each team in the east will beat up each other.. i see other teams like the panthers, viks and bucs competing for other wildcard spots. U aslo have to watch out for zona

:laugh: Well SOMEBODY is going to have to make the playoffs from the East.:)

[TheTotalPackage]

If you want a prediction :

Redskins 11-5
Cowboys 11-5
Eagles 10-6
Giants 10-6

Yep, that close.

is it possible for one division to have all 4 of its teams make the playoffs? suppose this scenario happened? or if all teams finished 10-6

[Kosher Ham]

is it possible for one division to have all 4 of its teams make the playoffs? suppose this scenario happened? or if all teams finished 10-6

No it is not possible.

There are 4 divisions and each division champion gets a playoff spot.

There are only 6 total playoff spots per conference.

[peckerwood]

And don't fool yourself, you don't have near the talent offensively as KC does.

Name a Chiefs WR that's not named Dante Hall. (and dante's no pro bowl receiver himself, might i add)

The chiefs only clear advantage would be at QB, and if Brunell can stay healthy, it's not that big an advantage either. Yeah, T. Gonzales is better at this point than Cooley but Chris is no slouch. And if Larry Johnson can keep up the pace he was on last year for a whole season then I can't really name a more productive back... but portis is pretty damn good too, don't you think?

Point is: you're off base. The redskins talent on offense is easily comparable to KC's.

[LoudMouth12thMan]

Well of course I think this would take some looking at so let me look at the schedule for Dallas and New York... :type:
Well Dallas looks like they have a pretty average schedule outside of the division, but I think you are a contender. Some depth problems on defense especially at linebacker and O-line. So I think you guys get in, if at all, as a Wild Card. Giants give Skins the biggest threat in the East.

By the way....
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f10/obxtoughgirl25/dallas.jpg

[TheMalcolmConnection]

About the whole Terrence Newman didn't give up any TDs, didn't he get run over en route to a Chris Cooley TD?

[Aghar]

2 Things to point out. #1 : Someone here made the point about KC having a more explosive offense than Washinton. True. But now we have their OC and they have Herm. :laugh: As for Tony G. and Cooley. Their numbers are comparable, actually all of them are:

Gonzales : 78 Rec. 905 yds. 2 TDs 11.6 avg.
Cooley : 71 Rec. 774 yds 7 Tds 10.9 avg.

RBs:

Washington : 2053 yds. 4.3 avg
KC: 2201 yds. 4.8 avg.

QBs:

Brunell : 3050 yds 55.7% comp 6.7 avg 23 TDs 10 INTs Long 78 yds 85.9 Rating : Sacked 27 / 213

Green : 4014 yds 62.5% comp 7.9 avg 17 TDs 10 INTs Long 60 yds 90.1 Rating : Sacked 32 / 204 yds

Like I said, comparable and now we have upgraded our OC and they are left with Herm. :laugh: Good luck KC, you'll need it.

#2: Check this out.
Dallas signings
Akin Ayodele, LB , Rocky Boiman, LB , Jason Fabini, OT , Ryan Hannam, TE , Kyle Kosier, OL , Terrell Owens, WR , Mike Vanderjagt, K

New York Signings
Jason Bell, CB , Will Demps, S , Quentin Harris, S , Sam Madison, CB , R.W. McQuarters, CB

Eagles Signings
Jabar Gaffney, WR, Jeff Garcia, QB :laugh: , Darren Howard, DE, Matt Schobel, TE

Redskins signings
Adam Archuleta, S , Andre Carter, DE , Todd Collins, QB , Christian Fauria, TE , Brandon Lloyd, WR , Antwaan Randle El, WR , Kenny Wright CB


Now honestly explain to me, considering that Washington was 10-6 last year, how you think any of these teams are looking better than we are? No way... :applause:

[31-Fo`Lyfe]

About the whole Terrence Newman didn't give up any TDs, didn't he get run over en route to a Chris Cooley TD?


Newman didn't give up any receiving TD's last year period.

[31-Fo`Lyfe]

Cooley may have ran him over but he never caught a ball on him :D