Hines Ward or S. Moss

[Skin Steelers Fan]

I Know most will say S. Moss but I still think Hines Ward is the overall better Wide out. What do you guys think? I would like to know what your :2cents: are.

[Warhead36]

Week 2 MNF.

'Nuff said.

:)

[Stew]

Im surprised no poll. Id take Moss in a minute over Ward. He is a little more leathal in my opinion. But thats just my homer pick. Ward is a cold beast and Im glad we dont see him often, but Id still take Moss over Ward. Ask me again with Chad Johnson, and you might get another answer.

[chow184]

Ward isn't that great of a deep threat were as santana can burn you from any spot on the field.


given the choice to take either one I would take Santana.

it's easier to find a possession reciever than a receiver with talent as rare as Moss's.

[Lil Kenzo]

Moss. No question about it.

[authentic]

Moss is more an explosive down-the-field threat, Ward is more of a utility guy. He gives you blocking, recieving, trick plays...etc. For our team and situation, plus the fact that he is younger.. i'd take Moss.

[IBleedBurgundy&Gold]

Moss is quicker more dangerous once he has the ball. He also burns people more often(R. Williams)
Ward will catch anything near him and will burn people just not as much.Tough guy for a fun loving character.

I'd take either but Moss is younger and has the potential to become more valuable than Ward

[hueman]

ward's more physical, but that's not what i look for in a wideout..

[Skin Steelers Fan]

my 300 lb friend (who plays line in high school) says He would rather match up against Moss because He feels all he has to do is hit him once which would knock the reciever down (within 5 yards) and the play would beover unlike ward who would not fall over and would probably get open.

[Cheers, Beers and Mountaineers]

i personally would pick Moss (no surprise there) but Hines Ward is a helluva a wideout who consistently puts up good numbers despite a young qb and a ground attack oriented offense(more so than the skins). plus he is the best blocking wideout, so in a sense he is a more complete WR, however moss had made some nice blocks and is just the more explosive and dangerous threat.

[triple569]

Yea well your 300 LB friend doesn't have a chance of Knocking Moss over cause Moss would run straight past him.

[SEANTAYLOR21]

Moss in a heartbeat.

next question.

[illone]

Both are great but I already have bias towards Moss and a Moss jersey on the way.

definitely Moss.

:D

[Skin Steelers Fan]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.

[joelvincent]

Moss. Speed kills. Ward is a stud and a team player that others should model themselves after, so no disrespect. But Moss is a complete game-changer.

[joelvincent]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.


And yet, he's get paid g-dollars, gettin' all the tail east of the Mississip, and somehow u r not...

:cheers:

[CurseReversed]

There is maybe one other reciever in all of football that contains the compliment of abilities that santana does, and his name is steve smith. There are a handfull of recievers I would rather have then these two for other reasons (c.johnson, t holt, r. moss). I love Heinz but he is not among them.

[illone]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.


Roy, is that you?


:laugh:

[ComebackKing]

This is a redskins forum who in their right mind would say Ward? LOL.

That being said I think Ward is one of the classest players and always takes the hit to get the extra yard. I love watching him play and he has been clutch for a good few years now. Santana sort of exploded last year but before that he was a bit quiet having some great games and some not so great games with the Jets.

Overall I'd rather have Ward on my fantasy team but I'd take Santana any day for the Redskins.

[Skinja]

ward is definetely more physical but moss is a better playmaker...i've never seen ward take a screen pass like 80 yards to the house

[Live4Skins]

I Know most will say S. Moss but I still think Hines Ward is the overall better Wide out. What do you guys think? I would like to know what your :2cents: are.

I personally pick Moss over Ward, but you my friend have to pick a team :laugh:
You cant represent two NFL teams;)

There's room on the bandwagon for only skin fans ONLY!!

[Skin Steelers Fan]

ward is definetely more physical but moss is a better playmaker...i've never seen ward take a screen pass like 80 yards to the house
Actually ward has (against the patriots when he caught an 85 yard touchdown pass (Not a screen I know but it was only a 7 or 8 yard reception that he turned into 85 yards) now that good.

[ComebackKing]

I personally pick Moss over Ward, but you my friend have to pick a team :laugh:
You cant represent two NFL teams;)

There's room on the bandwagon for only skin fans ONLY!! Well Redskins are my team but I like a bunch of players on other teams and some Redskins players I do not like at all.

[Skin Steelers Fan]

I personally pick Moss over Ward, but you my friend have to pick a team :laugh:
You cant represent two NFL teams;)

There's room on the bandwagon for only skin fans ONLY!!

So I can't be a fan of 1 afc team and 1 nfc team?

I grew up in Dale City VA and when I was 7 I moved to PA (starting liking skins at age 5 or 6) then I became a steeler fan at age 14 or 15.

So I like both it just means I have 2 chances to be happy during the season (weather the skins win the superbowl or the steelers did) (just like this year) :silly:

[Jody]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.


That was a joke... right?

I'm just asking, because it was pretty funny. :laugh:

[PotomacSkinsFan]

theyre both studs. ward is probably the most underrated player in the league, and he's made something like 4 pro bowls in a row. I like Moss more though, but only because he's a redskin.

[Skin Steelers Fan]

That was a joke... right?

I'm just asking, because it was pretty funny. :laugh:

Have you ever heard if you put your mind to it you can do anything?

I could be a cb and cover moss (at least for one play).

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Santana Moss is second to Gibbs in Washington :laugh: Let hope he keeps this up for more than a year and stays healthy.

[ntotoro]

Have you ever heard if you put your mind to it you can do anything?

The first person to say that couldn't do a damn thing and was just trying to make himself feel better... ;)

Putting your mind to it won't make you faster, more athletic or agile.

[dirtyleft]

This Is A Tough One But, I Would Take Santana.

[spitfire071]

my 300 lb friend (who plays line in high school) says He would rather match up against Moss because He feels all he has to do is hit him once which would knock the reciever down (within 5 yards) and the play would beover unlike ward who would not fall over and would probably get open.

How many times did you see moss get knocked down at the line? Moss is in the NFL baby, and caught 1483 yds, second in the NFL, Franchise Record, Pro Bowl. He's a Beast.
Week 2 MNF. Nuff said

[TSmithTheReal#36]

I can't pick against a guy who set a Redskins franchise receiving record in his first season
:point2sky

[drone007]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.

i'm hoping you at least played football in highschool or peewee league or something. moss is faster than hell... he's burned safeties that start 15 yds. downfield from him.

without knowing who you are, i can't be 100% certain, but i'm fairly sure that santana moss would burn you on every single play, unless he had a fluke play and dropped the ball. even if you bumped him, you think he would just fall to the ground and be done?

come on dude.. :laugh: :doh:

[Spartacus87]

Have you ever heard if you put your mind to it you can do anything?
I could be a cb and cover moss (at least for one play).
There's a show on right now for people like you, called Pros vs Joes. I don't care how fast or strong you think you are, if professional NFL cornerbacks can't keep up with Santana Moss and his ridiculous speed and agility, then the odds of you coming close are about 1 in 100000. Given a QB who can actually throw a good deep ball and accurate pass, Moss would break your ankles dude.

That all being said, Ward is definitely a really good WR, definitely underrated overall, as are a lot of the offensive talent on the Steelers which is why I was happy they won the Super Bowl and got some recognition, and as people have already said Ward can block, play physical downfield, is a great locker room guy, etc. However, I'd still Moss just for his pure speed and quickness, just one look at what he was able to do last season on the stuttering Redskins offense when defenses KNEW we were gonna throw to him, yet he was able to make the big play anyway, proves what kind of capabilities the guy has.

[ciresolstice]

Ward is an awesome guy, great player..makes great catches...is very physical, great blocking wr...but I like Moss' explosiveness and deep threat capabilty..and his RAC yds. So I take Moss. Ward is an awesome wr though. man tough call even being a skins fan.

[meetST]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.then why the hell are u sittin in front of ur computer talking to us instead of playing in the NFL?!?! I'm so suprised....with that talent....u should be making millions!!! ;)

o yeah...how can u be a fan of two teams? do u like one better or like them the same? i'm not being rude...i just never understood how people can like 2 teams at the same time...who do u root for with we play the steelers? i understand if u root for certain players on another team cause i'm sure we all do...but 2 teams...??

[Slacky McSlackAss]

ward is the best blocking WR in the league and has great hands, but as john madden says, Speed Kills. gotta pick my boy santana.

[DatBoySk]

Quote. Originally Posted by Skin Steelers Fan
I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.Quote.

lol dude are you serious im not saying its impossible but its unlikely but i will say if santana moss came in my area on the field i would lay him out regardless of his speed

[meetST]

"lay santana out"....what is he like some dummy who just stands there waiting for people to lay him out? i haven't seen any cbs or safteys lay him out and it's not like speed is the only thing he has....he isn't exactly small and weak
i'm not saying people can't lay him out but god some of u guys make it sound like moss is built like some 13 year old with nothing but speed

[Hiro]

there's a reason why santana moss is a successful player NFL, he's got the muscle, power, speed, and quickness to survive hits from DBs. Granted that he specializes more in the speed and quickness category, he still has enough power and muscle to survive hits. if he didn't, he wouldn't have lasted past his rookie year.

i personally wouldn't want to go up against santana, and i started at defensive tackle in high school and i'm a pretty big guy. i wouldn't want to go up against any NFL player for that matter (well maybe i could take john hall or tom tupa .. unless they kicked me), but yeah. most NFL players are pretty high up there in athletism and strength. us common folk would be no match for them. :doh:

[MustangSteve]

Week 2 MNF.

'Nuff said.

:)
:point2sky

[Live4Skins]

So I can't be a fan of 1 afc team and 1 nfc team?

I grew up in Dale City VA and when I was 7 I moved to PA (starting liking skins at age 5 or 6) then I became a steeler fan at age 14 or 15.

So I like both it just means I have 2 chances to be happy during the season (weather the skins win the superbowl or the steelers did) (just like this year) :silly:

I see where this is going...Steelers last year and the Redskins this year:silly:
coincidence? :cheers:

[Stew]

I guarentee that noone who says they can, could really "lay out" or "keep up" with Santana, no, not even for one play. If there was any chance of that, you would have been evaluated for a team byt his point in your life. If you have been evaluated, then why arent you out there? He is destroying corners and safeties that were taken in the first round of drafts, professional athletes, that train day in and day out to stop people like Santana. He destroys these professionals on a regular basis, and you think YOU have a chance???? You guys who think that have been hanging out with Rickey Williams too long.

[redskinss]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.

anybody smell that? you know its that distinctive smell that pops up anytime there's a troll around.

[rashee111495]

Santana Moss is without question one of the five best recievers in the NFL. So looking at the fact that Hines Ward wont have much help next season in light of the fact that we've got Randle El i take Santana Moss who should have a field day on just about every secondary in the league next season.

[Stew]

anybody smell that? you know its that distinctive smell that pops up anytime there's a troll around.


He's not a troll. His football heart is torn. I pity that anguishing man.

[Renegade7]

Moss had one good year. Versus Hines Ward? :laugh: Ward handles his business no matter what. And it's not because he's faster then everybody, or bigger, or anything like that. He's a true team-first player, clutch, and dependable day in and day out. Been like that for years. Yes, I said it, Hines Ward in a heartbeat. I'd think twice about sending moss over the middle, but with Hines, ha, that's where he makes his money.

[bryanyoung]

better chances of getting struck by lightening 5 times in an hour than to ever have this choice....so....irrelavent question.

[Skin Steelers Fan]

then why the hell are u sittin in front of ur computer talking to us instead of playing in the NFL?!?! I'm so suprised....with that talent....u should be making millions!!! ;)

o yeah...how can u be a fan of two teams? do u like one better or like them the same? i'm not being rude...i just never understood how people can like 2 teams at the same time...who do u root for with we play the steelers? i understand if u root for certain players on another team cause i'm sure we all do...but 2 teams...??
You see my name dude take a guess who I like a smidge better.

[Skin Steelers Fan]

Plus I am in college right now that is why I am not out there against moss. Plus I never said consistently I said 1 time and yes I play football in college and high school and pee wee so there.

[stat2883]

o yeah...how can u be a fan of two teams? do u like one better or like them the same? i'm not being rude...i just never understood how people can like 2 teams at the same time...who do u root for with we play the steelers? i understand if u root for certain players on another team cause i'm sure we all do...but 2 teams...??
This wasn't directed at me, but it applies none the less. The steelers are my #2 as well and here's a short explanation why. My Grandparents, Aunts, and Uncles on my mother's side were all Steelers fans from the 70s. (My mom however is a Jets fan...no idea how that happened) A kind of distant relative married one of the players on those 70s teams. I was exposed to the Steelers quite a bit in my youth, and being from South Dakota, there wasn't any "local" team. However, when I actually started following football, I picked the Redskins on my own. I remember DG's punt return against Chicago in the 87 playoffs and his batted pass against the vikings in the NFC champ. game. SB22 speaks for itself (:notworthy Doug and Ricky!) After that I was smitten, but I'll always have a spot in my heart for the Steelers. However, when the Skins and Steelers play, I go for the Skins without question. You could say I have two teams, or you can say that I have a #1 and #2 that will never change. There is a big gap between the Skins and Steelers, but there is a HUGE gap between them and the rest of the NFL. No matter how you slice it, skins come first.

Having spewed that nonsense - Ward is my favorite non-redskin WR by far (maybe my favorite non-redskin period...with the possible exception of Champ). I love the way he plays and approaches the game (not saying I don't like how Moss plays/approaches), but in the end, I'm with the majority of the people here. Moss is a game-breaker. I'd take Santana, but not by a lot. Of course, if I could replace Lloyd or Randel El with Ward, I would :) I'm happy though with what we got - its still a HUGE improvement.
:2cents:

[terpfan]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.
Ummm... no.

Of course, I doubt you could cover Ward either. I do like Ward a lot, and honestly I dont now which one I would take. But the idea that you could cover either of them apart from pure dumb luck is laughable. These guys are star WRs in the NFL.

[SkinzFan007]

i wouldnt toss either of them out of the sack.. i mean i want both on my team...

[Mr. Nostril]

I'd lose Moss for Ward in a heartbeat.

[TheREALJBird]

my 300 lb friend (who plays line in high school) says He would rather match up against Moss because He feels all he has to do is hit him once which would knock the reciever down (within 5 yards) and the play would beover unlike ward who would not fall over and would probably get open.

Well the day a Lineman matches up against Moss is the day Moss sets a record for receiving TD's in a game

[TheREALJBird]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.

Oh dear god....Moss runs a 4.27, you can keep up with that? :laugh:. About every CB in the NFL has more height and muscle than Moss, but that sure as hell didn't stop him. I'm going back to number one for your last statement. You couldn't catch him so jumping doesn't really matter. Lastly, the Redskins should sign you as Shawn Springs eventual replacement since you're so awesome

[Spartacus87]

Well the day a Lineman matches up against Moss is the day Moss sets a record for receiving TD's in a game :laugh: :laugh: I thought the same thing earlier but figured that quote was too easy to target for its absurdity. Just picture that mental image though and laugh :laugh: .

[Skin Steelers Fan]

Oh dear god....Moss runs a 4.27, you can keep up with that? :laugh:. About every CB in the NFL has more height and muscle than Moss, but that sure as hell didn't stop him. I'm going back to number one for your last statement. You couldn't catch him so jumping doesn't really matter. Lastly, the Redskins should sign you as Shawn Springs eventual replacement since you're so awesome

So what I can run a 4.31 which means I can keep up with him. Hes not that much faster then me. Which on the madden Scale gives me about a 93 or 94 speed compared to Santana 97 speed. ( May not be able to outrun him but I can keep up enough to jump higher then him and knock the ball down.

[Enter Apotheosis]

It seems pretty obvious to me that most NFL spectators will prefer the big playmaker to Mr. Reliable most of the time. Hines Ward is one hell of a receiver but Santana is more fun to watch and is far more explosive.


my 300 lb friend (who plays line in high school) says He would rather match up against Moss because He feels all he has to do is hit him once which would knock the reciever down (within 5 yards) and the play would beover unlike ward who would not fall over and would probably get open.

How many big guys even got close to Moss this season when he was moving with the ball and had any sort of separation? Moss isn't the most physical guy and he would probably *relatively* be easy to bring down... but you and your friend completely ignore the fact that you have to catch him first. At this point I'm not sure ANYONE in the NFL can and I seriously doubt you scrubs could.

Besides, I think that if your friend is really 300 pounds he'd probably be able to bring down Hines Ward without too much more difficulty (if he just falls on him the right way). He still wouldn't be able to catch even Ward, though.


I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.

Muscle, height, and other qualitative features don't help your cause. Until you can prove that you can beat the NFL's fastest in a footrace and show that you can match Moss' agility... why even bother?

Hell, I have a build similar to Cooley... but that doesn't mean that I can run over Brian Dawkins :laugh:


So what I can run a 4.31 which means I can keep up with him. Hes not that much faster then me. Which on the madden Scale gives me about a 93 or 94 speed compared to Santana 97 speed. ( May not be able to outrun him but I can keep up enough to jump higher then him and knock the ball down.

Who timed you? Were you ever a track star? Since when are player speeds on Madden at all accurate? The whole idea is just laughable.

[Skin Steelers Fan]

"Who timed you? Were you ever a track star? Since when are player speeds on Madden at all accurate? The whole idea is just laughable."

Timed by my college Football Coach. And no I was not a track star our school did not have Track when I went there. (High School). I was just giving an estimation which is what madden does. It is something most people can put together. In their mind so they can compare myself and moss.

PS: Why is everyone giving me such a hard time with this.:rolleyes:

[BigRay]

Tough question follow both teams but I give Santana the edge. Hines though he will do all the dirty work if he has to not only he's an excellent receiver but he's also great blocker. The knock on Ward is though he's not the fastest receiver in the world but, he's very reliable if you're to based it on pure speed a guy that can just embarassed a secondary Santana Moss..

[DiscoBob]

I'm a homer, but based purely on age, I'd take Moss...

but, it will really be determined by next year. Ward has been a consistant threat for a while, and Moss only proved to be a top tier WR last year. If he puts up similar #'s, I think it settles the question, but if not....? Longevity and consistance are the mark of a truely great football player, not one season...

[EnFoRcEr_uPu]

While I still think Ward is the toughest wideout in the NFL, I also still believe that Moss is not only the fastest, but more sure-handed wideout in the league.

[Spartacus87]

PS: Why is everyone giving me such a hard time with this.:rolleyes: I don't know man, maybe because you're insisting that you could cover one of the NFL's fastest and most agile Pro Bowl recievers, who even top NFL corners like Champ Bailey struggle to keep up with. Just my guess.

[Abshir]

Moss ... without a doubt

[VaK9Trainer]

Moss!!!!!!

[DC_Native,NC_Fan]

No offense, but how can I take you serious with a name like "Skin Steelers fan"? :laugh:

My new name is going to be "Skins (insert the name of the next Superbowl winner here) Fan" :silly:

[Drunken Master III]

Santana Moss easily

[redskin48]

Just look at the numbers last year.

[chronicdesi]

Moss' speed is the variable here.. Ward is a great reciever, but I don't know if he can break open a game like Moss can.. And Moss did it without any help.

[yazzmode621]

Ward is a great receiver but IMO he is not one of the ELITE WRs of the game. He is not a gamebreaker. He is very popular and well liked because of the great person he is but in terms of talent, he doesnt compare to the likes of Owens, Moss, Moss, etc. Therefore I think Moss is the better receiver.

[MSJHWT]

I don't know man, maybe because you're insisting that you could cover one of the NFL's fastest and most agile Pro Bowl recievers, who even top NFL corners like Champ Bailey struggle to keep up with. Just my guess.
:applause:

[meetST]

Plus I am in college right now that is why I am not out there against moss. Plus I never said consistently I said 1 time and yes I play football in college and high school and pee wee so there.what college may i ask?

[rvan1]

santana ward....

[Loxley]

Moss for sure.

[robotfire]

I say this with complete seriousness, and with my Redskins goggles off- Santana Moss is the best receiver in the league.

Steve Smith is great, but I think Moss is better. Chad Johnson is good, but not good enough to compare with Smith and Moss. Ward is good for touchdowns, but he doesn't get many yards. Randy Moss is no longer relevant.

In case someone wants to make an argument for T.O., you can't compare Brunell to McNabb. Plus, part of being the best is being a team player. Santana wins that one, hands down.

Clint

[revallenjr]

[QUOTE=robotfire]I say this with complete seriousness, and with my Redskins goggles off- Santana Moss is the best receiver in the league.

Steve Smith is great, but I think Moss is better. Chad Johnson is good, but not good enough to compare with Smith and Moss. Ward is good for touchdowns, but he doesn't get many yards. Randy Moss is no longer relevant.

In case someone wants to make an argument for T.O., you can't compare Brunell to McNabb. Plus, part of being the best is being a team player. Santana wins that one, hands down.

Clint[/QUOT

The choice was between Hines Ward and Santana Moss. Moss wins easily. But to say he is the best in the game, and not even mention the likes of Marvin Harrison, Bolden, Fitzgerald, and Holt? Are you sure the redskins goggles are off?

[Cmurdock]

this goes down in extremskins.com history of one of the stupidest posts ive ever seen, as well as the thread starter being a complete moron.

[Stew]

this goes down in extremskins.com history of one of the stupidest posts ive ever seen, as well as the thread starter being a complete moron.


Nah, you've never met or read Hebrewskinz threads then huh?

[LoudMouth12thMan]

Moss had the numbers last year, but Ward is with him step for step (figuratively speaking of course). They are two different styled players. Explosive vs. Possession. Who do you think most would pick?
HTTR!

[illone]

This thread has taken a sharp turn.

You should never claim to be able to cover one of the best wide receivers in professional sports.

That's just silly.

[MossFan89]

hines ward is more like meshawn johnson, but better they are both more of possesion

recievers. moss is an explosive WR. he can go downfield and make the catch. so

ill take S.A.N.T.A.N.A.

[Spooner]

Ok, how about I bring the opinion of a Steelers fan who doesn't think he could cover Santana Moss...

I'm a huge homer, but I'd take Hines Ward. I think I, and a lot of Steelers fans, just subscribe to a different view on how to win the game. If you look back to the Steelers offenses the last few years, we were one of the few offenses where the possession wide reciever was the #1 WR, and the deep threat was the #2. And Plaxico Burress was no chump.

My point being the Steelers make Hines Ward their feature WR because he's a very good wide reciever, but more so because he has a better work ethic than possibly any other player in the NFL. As people have already said, he always takes the big hit, always makes the big block, always goes down the middle, and does it with a smile on his face. I think the attitude he brings and his presence in the locker room is extremely underrated. Having a player like Hines Ward really helps keep egos in check and helps to nurture the team first attitude that is drastically important. A player like Moss might make the passing game immediately better, but a player likes Hines Ward makes the whole offense, and even the entire team, better.

But hey, this coming from the guy who would marry Hines Ward given the opportunity. So understand I'm a little bit biased.


(But if I needed someone to go out for one deep pass to win the game, I'd take Moss.)

[nonniey]

my 300 lb friend (who plays line in high school) says He would rather match up against Moss because He feels all he has to do is hit him once which would knock the reciever down (within 5 yards) and the play would beover unlike ward who would not fall over and would probably get open.

Well, yeah I can see why your friend would say that. In his case if either of them got past him in the first 5 yards its all over.

[Skin Steelers Fan]

I would take hines because he is more rounded. Not saying Moss is not good because I think he is great but I prefer a good blocker and someone who can catch and go over the middle then just a long distance reciever.

[End2round2sanders]

All I can say is wtf is up with Korea giving Ward honorary citizenship recently? Your telling me if he doesn't win in the super bowl he doesn't get it? Hes been in the league for over 5 years and now they decide to give it to him? Its a great gesture but messed up at the same time.

[TheSchwartz]

The pick here depends on the QB.

Brunell would need Santana.

Whereas Roethlisberger would be successful with either...

So really you would need to know the QB first and then you can pick players around him that will match up with his abilities. And because of that it's hard to pick one or the other. If it's Big Ben at QB I would stick with Ward because of his overall game. But if I have an inconsistent QB I would want Santana because he can do so much in the passing game...

[SkinsFTW]

my 300 lb friend (who plays line in high school) says He would rather match up against Moss because He feels all he has to do is hit him once which would knock the reciever down (within 5 yards) and the play would beover unlike ward who would not fall over and would probably get open.

Too bad 300 pound DB's dont exist, as if a 300 pounder could get his hands on Moss before he got away anyway. If it was that easy then they would put Sumo wrestlers at CB and the really fast guys at safety just incase.

[tuna_h8r]

my 300 lb friend (who plays line in high school) says He would rather match up against Moss because He feels all he has to do is hit him once which would knock the reciever down (within 5 yards) and the play would beover unlike ward who would not fall over and would probably get open.

wow, that's brilliant. somebody should tell GW that we don't need corners! just get a bunch of fatasses to sit on the receivers as soon as they cross the line.

oh wait... then they go in motion...

[wysknz1]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.
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SIGN 'IM UP DANNY!!!!!! Sounds like another wonderboy who's better than the guys on the field.......:notworthy :steelersu :troll:

[Skinz89]

Santana is fatser, more agile and quicker than Hines Ward, Ward has the better QB to throw it to him but if Santana had a better QB then his stats would have been much better. If we are goin on Stats then i still Take Santana and if we are judging by skill it take..... SANTANA ;) :notworthy

[Jody]

what college may i ask?

Yeah, what school do you play for? I might want to check out some games. You sound pretty good. :doh:

[hanster]

I Know most will say S. Moss but I still think Hines Ward is the overall better Wide out. What do you guys think? I would like to know what your are.

Santana is a bigger threat to change the game at anytime.

[the burgundy and gold]

I think I can keep up with moss I mean how tough would it be
1. First off I am fast
2. I am taller then moss (6' 4")
3. I have more muscle then moss
4. I can jump a decent height.


then why aren't you in the NFL? You would be one of the top corners if you can keep up with santana.

[Phixius]

Hmmm.... Let me think abou.. Moss

[SKiNz Jus 2 sick]

this poll should say Moss or Smith

[Vi]

Before I answer, my big homer moment is this: some of you that are picking Hines Ward are treating Moss like he is delicate and a bad blocker... of which he was neither last year. He threw some beautiful blocks last year, and his elusiveness and speed made up for his size.

That being said...

I think for the 'Skins, Moss is better, and for the Steelers, Ward is better. It's a matter of style and what you need in your system, and I think in this case it is just as it should be. Overall, they are both fantastic wide-outs and I'm just happy with things the way they are.

[matt2190]

I like Santana Moss but I just hope that this is no mirage. He has only been this good for 1 year. I hope all the fans realize this.

[Jody]

I like Santana Moss but I just hope that this is no mirage. He has only been this good for 1 year. I hope all the fans realize this.


I don't think it's a mirage at all. If it was only one good game, I probably would agree. But he stood up for the entire season, he's in his prime now.

Just gotta keep gettin the man the ball, after that, he'll do the rest. :point2sky

[DeaconBlue]

Skin steelersfan Let me give you this point of view. We KNOW what Moss has done here. With that knowledge in hand heres a good theorem. A Moss in the hand is worth 2 Wards in the Bush. You don't stand a chance in hell of dissproving that one I garrauntee you. You can take that to the bank. Moss works here , NO DOUBT.