Official Wizards vs Bulls thread

[the burgundy and gold]

The game is at 8 tonight on ESPN. We better win if we want to stay in the 5th spot.

[arenasisgod]

we got this

[Rocky21]

I think Deng is hurt and won't play. I think the Bulls are just the rival the Wiz need to push them over the top.

[Diablo23]

We will get back on the right track tonight.

[Warhead36]

According to RealGM, Duhon and Deng are playing, Butler is out.

I have a feeling.............I don't know but I just think Arenas is going to bust out. Maybe a 50 point game.

[Diablo23]

The Bucks got under his skin last game.. We'll see how he rebounds.

[the burgundy and gold]

that would be insane if he droped 50 tonight.

[Diablo23]

I just turned on shootaround.. did they like not talk about the Wizards at all?

[Diablo23]

Nice start by the Wizards

[turtle]

I get to see it here on ESPN.

[Diablo23]

What a dunk by Arenas

[ksun247]

Arenas is on a mission tonite...He should light up da Bulls...good game so far....Let's Go 'Zards!!!

[Diablo23]

hmm.. ARenas might get that 50 warhead ;)

[Thanos]

Looks grea in HDTV

[ksun247]

No doubt Gil's gonna have a BIG nite. What in the world has gotten into Jared Jeffries. :rubeyes: He's a scoring machine. I know it's his contract year, but now his jumper is ON. :applause:

Let's Go 'Zards :wavetowel

[Diablo23]

21 pts for ARenas.. 9 mins still left in half.

[turtle]

Wizards doing good so far. Hopefully they will continue.

[TheREALJBird]

Gil and AD are tearing it up...if Jamison can step it up I think we can pull this one off

[Diablo23]

Daniels better be ok :(

[TheREALJBird]

Daniels was walking gingerly but under his own power, I think he'll be ok

[Gamebreaker]

I just got in the house. Is Caron playing??

[turtle]

No he's out again.

[Gamebreaker]

No he's out again.

Damn it! Well at least we're winning.

[Diablo23]

Arenas just owns man.

[Gamebreaker]

I'm going to need Walton to never mention Haywood and Hakeem "The Dream" in the same sentence ever again. :doh:

[wantarace17]

great dunk by haywood...why doesn't he do that more often

[B.Lloyd]

Since Phili lost is it possible to clinch if we win?

[DonMagicJuan]

walton's comments makes me mad.....and who the hell is SPENCER HAYWOOD haha...these 2 have no idea what they say sometimes...

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Worst Defense Ever!!

[wantarace17]

what the hell GUARD THE 3!!!!

[Gamebreaker]

I'm gonna be sick if we lose another. :sad:

[PresidentClinton07]

Worst Defense Ever!!

No , it was more like.....



Worst Defense Ever

how do you leave Ben G . open for three when he just made one right before. And then they leave the macroni guy open.

C'mon Wiz ..... this is the opposite of playoff defense.

[Gamebreaker]

That was the worst shot I've ever seen Arenas take. Gordon just made it 93-87.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Gordon 8-8 from 3's ****ing cover him :cuss:
This game is over :puke:

[Gamebreaker]

Dumbass Daniels takes a horrible shot instead of passing it to the cutting Haywood. Don't run the friggin' pick and roll unless you're going to do it right! ARGH!!!!! This is so frustrating.

[B.Lloyd]

OMFG we can't come back from 8, wow what a way to blow a game

[Thanos]

Keep hope alive!!

[SeanTaylor#21]

They just suck !damn!give the damn ball to Arenas

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Plenty of time left for some magic Wiz

[Gamebreaker]

93-98 Bulls.

Arenas needs to take over the game right now.

Jamison just hit a runner. 95-98 Bulls.

[Thanos]

Keep hope alive!!

[Gamebreaker]

Yes! Haywood with an AND1. This free throw is so crucial for us to win......Damn it Haywood!

Chandler fouled out.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Damn if Haywood made that FT it would be tied

[B.Lloyd]

Thats what I'm talkin about!

[Gamebreaker]

Daniels fast break assist to Jeffries. 99-100 Bulls. Thinks are looking up. Chandler has fouled out, so they lost their big defensive presence in the paint. This is the time to step up and show their a real playoff team.

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! 9-9 Bastard

[Gamebreaker]

Damn! Ben Gordon kills us again.

[Thanos]

We are in total freefall

[wantarace17]

oh what a BS call

[Gamebreaker]

This is so depressing. What the hell did Jared think he was doing? We had time left AND A TIMEOUT. We should've ran a play!

[TSmithTheReal#36]

If Ben would have just shot 8-9 from the 3 point line we could have won
The way we lost to the Bucks and now this game = :puke:

[B.Lloyd]

Goodbye 5 seed (Cavs) Hello 7 seed (Heat). I guess it's just fun to be in the playoffs, considering we wouldn't make it anywhere.

[TheREALJBird]

un****inbelievable, this team is a bunch of ****in choke artists

[Thanos]

We need a defensive stopper

[ksun247]

That was a tough loss!!! We gotta regroup...Come back Caron. We need you.

[Gamebreaker]

You know, in the third quarter when he failed to put the Bulls away. I thought to myself,"This seems like one of those games where Gordon goes off in the 4th quarter and Sportscenter has an orgasm over it for about 3-4 days."

I so wish I was wrong...

[Gamebreaker]

I said it Wednesday. If Caron doesn't play, we will lose on Friday. HE SHOULD'VE PLAYED.

[Warhead36]

Ben Gordon just took us by the neck and made us suck his dick.

9-9 from a mediocre shooter? Bah.

Gilbert, where the hell did he go in the 4th quarter? After dominating by GETTING TO THE PAINT, he just decides to throw up bad jumper after bad jumper.

Midway through the 4th, up 6 87-81 the game was going at our pace before our defense just disappeared.

Bah, the only good thing is that the 76ers lost. We're 2 games up on them, so I do believe if we win and the 76ers lose at Orlando we clinch a playoff birth.

Then again we'll be the #7/#8 seed. Welcome to Detroit or Miami. I'd rather just get a lottery pick.

[DonMagicJuan]

refs...they have to be fined....biggest bull of a call i've seen in a while...how do u make a call like that in the end of the game and u know ur not sure...

[B.Lloyd]

We are in desperate need of a home game, and I pray the crowd raises the roofs so these guys can get their "energy" back from their home.

[Warhead36]

It was a charge. Get over it.

I don't care about the call. I'm more pissed that Jared ****in Jeffries was the last guy to touch the ball on our last TWO possessions.

Look I understand the kid has set a new carer high the last two games but we should have run our Offense through Daniels and/or Haywood.


Arenas and Jamison both deserve a lot of blame for the loss. Arenas went away from what was working for him early on. Remember that post I made a while ago about how Arenas doesn't drive to the hoop often? Well he was and was dominating, but decided to just toss jumpers in the 4th quarter and that doesn't work.

And Jamison? Well he didn't show up, AGAIN. I hope we can trade him in the offseason. He's a chucker who can't play a lick of D and is making too much bank.

Daniels had another strong game. He definitely needs to start. He carried us tonight. He made Jeffries and Haywood look like All-Stars at times.

If you could combine Daniels and Arenas you'd get the best PG in the NBA.

[TheSteve]

If you could combine Daniels and Arenas you'd get the best PG in the NBA.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :doh:

Arenas has everything Daniels has and more. Daniels is an inconsistent tweener.

[GOSKINS_08]

Tough game to lose...Damnit Ben Gorden

[redskinedwizard]

damn f*cking shame!

[B.Lloyd]

Dude Jamison has been great ALL SEASON as of late. Remember earlier in February after he was in that huge slump? He got out of it and turned out to be great

[TheSteve]

Guys, close loss after close loss is continuing to magnify our coaching problem. Eddie Jordan has an excellent offensive system but when opposing teams make adjustments and counter our plan A, then counter adjustment is sorely lacking by EJ. We lost because we got outcoached.

[Warhead36]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :doh:

Arenas has everything Daniels has and more. Daniels is an inconsistent tweener.

Not a chance.

Daniels is much more calm and is more of a floor general. He always sticks to whats working, and doesn't try to do too much. I would say his leadership skills excel Arenas's.

Arenas has the killer attitude. That's great, I love it but sometimes it's too much. He plays out of his game to try to put a team away instead of sticking with what works.

Now, is Arenas a better player than Daniels? No doubt. Arenas is a dominant superstar and Daniels is a decent role player.

But there are things Daniels can do that Arenas can't.

[Phixius]

It doesnt matter who better the fact is that they cant win.

[TheSteve]

Not a chance.

Daniels is much more calm and is more of a floor general. He always sticks to whats working, and doesn't try to do too much. I would say his leadership skills excel Arenas's.

Arenas has the killer attitude. That's great, I love it but sometimes it's too much. He plays out of his game to try to put a team away instead of sticking with what works.

Now, is Arenas a better player than Daniels? No doubt. Arenas is a dominant superstar and Daniels is a decent role player.

But there are things Daniels can do that Arenas can't.

Daniels sticks to the book because he is not a good enough player to consistently improvise without making a fool out of himself. And please, list these 'basketball' qualities that Daniels is better than Arenas at..

Shooting? Arenas Check. How many airballs and clunkers from midrange does AD throw up per game?
Dribble Penetration? Arenas Check.
Ability to break down the defense and get to the line? Arenas Check.
Ability to make teammates better? Arenas Check.

You know, before Arenas got hurt tonight we were winning. He hurt his calf and we lost. It's as simple as that. Daniels is impressive when Arenas is on the floor with him to draw the defensive pressure, but as we saw when Arenas got injured and the Wizards looked pitiful running the Offense through Jamison and Daniels-Arenas makes this team go.

The Wiz haven't had a franchise player for so long and yet when we have one people don't appreciate him.

[Gamebreaker]

I'm just pissed that Jeffries raced down the court like SuperSaveAHo, trying to be a hero, and essentially gave the Bulls the game. Unless your name is Gilbert, you don't that for this team when we have a timeout left and enough time to run a high percentage play. Just stupid.

I think Gil has stopped driving to hoop as much because he's tired of the refs giving him no respect. Last season Gil drove to the hoop all the time, and he was still doing so earlier this season.

It's sad to say, but Daniels and Haywood were the only players who stepped up in the fourth quarter. Everyone else was on cruise control, jacking up bad shots and playing horrendous defense.

[TheSteve]

Gamebreaker that's what I said to the people watching the game with me, Jeffries should have called a freaking time out as soon as he grabbed the rebound. :doh:

[Warhead36]

Daniels sticks to the book because he is not a good enough player to consistently improvise without making a fool out of himself. And please, list these 'basketball' qualities that Daniels is better than Arenas at..

Shooting? Arenas Check. How many airballs and clunkers from midrange does AD throw up per game?
Dribble Penetration? Arenas Check.
Ability to break down the defense and get to the line? Arenas Check.
Ability to make teammates better? Arenas Check.

You know, before Arenas got hurt tonight we were winning. He hurt his calf and we lost. It's as simple as that. Daniels is impressive when Arenas is on the floor with him to draw the defensive pressure, but as we saw when Arenas got injured and the Wizards looked pitiful running the Offense through Jamison and Daniels-Arenas makes this team go.

The Wiz haven't had a franchise player for so long and yet when we have one people don't appreciate him.

Thats my point. Arenas is ABLE to do all of those things. But sometimes, he doesn't do it.

Sometimes a decent player whos very smart is better than a great player who isn't playing smart.

Oh I love Arenas. I appreciate him to death. I hate saying anything negative about him, hell I argue with my friends who are fans of other teams on why Arenas should be an MVP candidate(he should), I'm just pointing out that there are times when he doesn't fully utilize his talents.

[TheSteve]

Ok, we can agree on that. But I just disagree with using Daniels who has been the epitome of inconsistent his entire career to validate your concerns about Gilbert. ;)

[hands11]

It was a charge. Get over it.

I don't care about the call. I'm more pissed that Jared ****in Jeffries was the last guy to touch the ball on our last TWO possessions.

Look I understand the kid has set a new carer high the last two games but we should have run our Offense through Daniels and/or Haywood.


Arenas and Jamison both deserve a lot of blame for the loss. Arenas went away from what was working for him early on. Remember that post I made a while ago about how Arenas doesn't drive to the hoop often? Well he was and was dominating, but decided to just toss jumpers in the 4th quarter and that doesn't work.

And Jamison? Well he didn't show up, AGAIN. I hope we can trade him in the offseason. He's a chucker who can't play a lick of D and is making too much bank.

Daniels had another strong game. He definitely needs to start. He carried us tonight. He made Jeffries and Haywood look like All-Stars at times.

If you could combine Daniels and Arenas you'd get the best PG in the NBA.

I agree. I said a while back it should be AD and Gil because that what makes the offense run. AD, Gil, Caron, AJ, Etan. Thats what I would start.

Bring in Haywood and move Etan to power and do any number of things from sit AJ to moving him to SF and rolling Caron to shoting guard, etc etc. Bring in JJ or Etan. This is the rotation I would do.

Or even start JJ instead of AJ and have a tight defence with AD, Gil, Caron, JJ and Etan. Then you have scoring, running, and defense. Eveny one has quick feet and you have size, drives, blocks, steals, etc.

[hands11]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=2409251

thank god

[Rocky21]

On that last possession Nocioni was dancing all over the court. I can't believe he didn't get called with a block. What a bull**** call!

[Winslowalrob]

On that last possession Nocioni was dancing all over the court. I can't believe he didn't get called with a block. What a bull**** call!

I haven't that much dancin since Singing in the Rain. Jeffries should have taken a time out, sure, but Ol' Happy Feet Andres shoulda been called for the foul.

[bofluid]

The last play was definitely a block, but I'm somewhat relieved the foul was not called. You know it is inevitable that JJ would have missed at least one of the FT's had the call been made. The NBA rules are already tilted to benefit offense, so I'm tired of seeing players get bailed out with foul calls. Bottom line, if you leave your feet 17 ft. from the basket without any sense of what you're going to do in the air you're not going to get the call.