Portis or Arenas?

[GhostOfLamontHollinquest]

Who is a the biggest star in Washington sports right now?

[TimFolk]

I like them both, but I think Clinton got this one.

[freakinandpeakin]

Worldwide: Alexander Ovechkin. In DC: Portis.

[Arenas{XP}]

Arenas! =p

[GhostOfLamontHollinquest]

Actually, you could even make an argument for Freddy Adu if its worldwide...

[stram22]

I'm just glad they're both in D.C. Both of them are charismatic and great players. Since the Redskins seem to be bigger than the Wizards I'll go with Portis, but Arenas is incredible also.

[Bhutanibeast]

at this time it is Arenas because the wizards are in the playoffs and it is basketball season.

[GhostOfLamontHollinquest]

I'm just glad they're both in D.C. Both of them are charismatic and great players. Since the Redskins seem to be bigger than the Wizards I'll go with Portis, but Arenas is incredible also.

Good answer. I think we are incredibly lucky to have them both.

[Diablo23]

I love them both..

Arenas is my favorite athlete in any sport .. But I love Clinton as well..

Hopefully both stay in D.C for a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time

[freakinandpeakin]

Actually, you could even make an argument for Freddy Adu if its worldwide...

Very true. But I like hockey and don't like soccer, so I say Ovechkin gets it. :D

[AllAboutSkins08]

since this is a football board, i think most of the people on here are gonna say portis. including me :D

[BleedBNG]

Before the 'Skins season ends... PORTIS!
:notworthy
After it ends... ARENAS!
:notworthy

[CPstretch]

on this day, gilbert after winning game 2. during the fall/winter....portis

[RIDETHEWALRUS]

at this time it is Arenas because the wizards are in the playoffs and it is basketball season.

The simple fact is more people care about the NFL draft than they do the first round of the NBA playoffs.

The NBA playoff system is a friggin joke. Half of the teams get in. What is the purpose of the regular season if half of the teams get into the playoffs?

Very few people give a dam about the NBA anymore.

Clinton Portis is by far the most charismatic player in DC on a team with a much greater fan base.

[CPstretch]

DC has definitely gotten back into the NBA the past 2 years with the emergence of the wizards as a winning team. something we havent seen in a while

[SkinsHokieFan]

Portis

I think when its all said and done though, Alexander Ovechkin will be the biggest star this city has ever seen and will dominate his sport like no other athlete in our town ever has

[Cheers, Beers and Mountaineers]

Portis simply because D.C. is a football town, and Redskins are a way of life. The other sports are not as significant as the Skins.(not saying they're insignificant either) However I'm sure some people will look at the face of D.C. sports categorically. Holding Portis, Arenas, and Ovechkin on equal footing with their respective sports. Regardless though, it is still great to have players like Portis, Arenas and Ovechkin in town and playing for our sports teams.

[jasimpson]

Don't you guys know that the answer to every question is always Sean Taylor :doh:

[REDSKINSQ]

PORTIS IS a great man.

[DoGood28]

Toss up IMO. I think the most popular athlete changes with the seasons. Arenas now, and Portis in the fall and winter.

[Spaceman Spiff]

Portis, but not by much.

For those who are saying Ovechkin will be bigger than both....I'd be inclined to agree if anyone in this town ever cared about hockey.

[dcsmooth]

Right now? Right right now? I would say it's Gilbert Arenas because it's basket ball season!

[Maggio]

The simple fact is more people care about the NFL draft than they do the first round of the NBA playoffs.

The NBA playoff system is a friggin joke. Half of the teams get in. What is the purpose of the regular season if half of the teams get into the playoffs?

Very few people give a dam about the NBA anymore.

Clinton Portis is by far the most charismatic player in DC on a team with a much greater fan base.

Uhm, maybe in your circle. If anything, as pure entertainment, the NFL Draft is the biggest joke out there, drawn out and boring. The NBA Playoffs is the only good thing about the NBA, its actual real basketball. The regular season is the real joke, nobody really plays all out every night.

As for the question, since it says in acutal D.C., its gotta be Arenas, because like it or not, D.C. is a basketball town first. Yes, I know I said it, but historically it has always been, one of the top 5 markets in the country. High school ball, AAU, college ball and now the resurgance of the wizards. I guarantee more kids in D.C. talk about Arenas on any given day then they do Portis.

[Peregrine]

Portis, not even close. Yes Arenas is very popular, but consider that the NFL is much more popular than than the NBA, and the Redskins are pretty much the most popular team in the NFL.

[herrmag]

Worldwide: Alexander Ovechkin. In DC: Portis.

You are correct sir, despite being off topic ;).

To answer the question, it's simple: Portis. He's the biggest star on the biggest team in the city (next to Joe Gibbs).

[eck0]

The thing is though Arenas is a franchise player for the Wizards and a top 10 player in the NBA the same thing cannot be said for Portis(NFL) so I would have to go with Arenas.

[herrmag]

Actually, you could even make an argument for Freddy Adu if its worldwide...

No, not yet. He isn't at that caliber. Freddy has potential to be great, AO already is one of the best players in the world. Send Adu to Europe, and he won't even see the field. :2cents:

[Jofizz]

I'd say both guys are well deserving of this title.

Both have great character, and are team leaders.

[NEMO]

Portis, but not by much.

For those who are saying Ovechkin will be bigger than both....I'd be inclined to agree if anyone in this town ever cared about hockey.

The real thread should be... 'who is the best athlete in D.C. right now'. Alex Ovechkin would win in a landslide.



Also if you want to talk about more valuable to a team I would pick AO, Arena's, then Portis.


But obviously the definition of Superstar is differnt so you have to say Portis because AO and Arena's don't have stripper poles in there basement.

[Gamebreaker]

The simple fact is more people care about the NFL draft than they do the first round of the NBA playoffs.

The NBA playoff system is a friggin joke. Half of the teams get in. What is the purpose of the regular season if half of the teams get into the playoffs?

Very few people give a dam about the NBA anymore.

Clinton Portis is by far the most charismatic player in DC on a team with a much greater fan base.

How come everytime someone mentions basketball outside of the basketball forum there is always someone who has to go totally off-topic and bash it. :rolleyes:

[herrmag]

How come everytime someone mentions basketball outside of the basketball forum there is always someone who has to go totally off-topic and bash it. :rolleyes:
Sorry, I'd feel sorry for you if I wasn't a hockey fan. You want to talk about bashing? :silly:

[eck0]

How come everytime someone mentions basketball outside of the basketball forum there is always someone who has to go totally off-topic and bash it. :rolleyes:

I'm going to play the race card for just a moment but this is why I truly believe the NFL is more popular than the NBA(not saying the nba would be more popular otherwise) and its because the NBA is a 95% black dominated league but this is changing now because a lot of foreign players are entering the draft and we having emerging ncaa prospects (redick,morrison).

[herrmag]

I'm going to play the race card for just a moment but this is why I truly believe the NFL is more popular than the NBA(not saying the nba would be more popular otherwise) and its because the NBA is a 95% black dominated league but this is changing now because a lot of foreign players are entering the draft and we having emerging ncaa prospects (redick,morrison).
:shutup: :munchout:

[NEMO]

I'm going to play the race card for just a moment but this is why I truly believe the NFL is more popular than the NBA(not saying the nba would be more popular otherwise) and its because the NBA is a 95% black dominated league but this is changing now because a lot of foreign players are entering the draft and we having emerging ncaa prospects (redick,morrison).

It is not because of race, it is because those over-paid athletes DO NOT TRY until they make the playoffs. The season is a joke, 82 games of BS. They don't hustle back on D, they don't contest every shot, if they get beat off the dribble nobody plays help D because they all know the only thing keeping fans watching is sick highlight reel dunks. These guys do not try. Hockey and Football players have the most guts out of any sport because they leave it all on the field. Their players might have up and down games (Giants???) but at least we tried. And do not get me started on the playoffs, maybe if less only the top 4 teams make it like in Baseball then they might get off their lazy buts and try during the season> :doh: :doh: :doh: The NBA sucks.

That was off topic. I think Ovechkin has Freddy A beat around the world because it is already known that Ovechkin is the best hockey player in the world right now. Guys, we have the best player in the world playing in our City and you leave him off the list? Thats shameful.

[santana4prez]

2 weeks ago someone posted the same thread except it wasnt a poll. Please be kind and use the search function.
EXTREMESKINS.com - Most Popular DC Athlete??? (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152631&page=1&pp=15)

Too answer this poll question it is Clinton Portis in a landslide. Washington DC is a football town. I like the Wizards but cmon If fans had to pick between the Skins making the playoffs and the Wizards winning the NBA title most fans would choose the Skins just getting to the playoffs. Portis is #1 b/c most of DC likes the Skins more than any other DC team.

[Santana_Fan]

Portis has my vote

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

We all love Clinton Portis but I think Gilbert Arenas takes the cake... :notworthy

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

2 weeks ago someone posted the same thread except it wasnt a poll. Please be kind and use the search function.
EXTREMESKINS.com - Most Popular DC Athlete??? (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152631&page=1&pp=15)

Too answer this poll question it is Clinton Portis in a landslide. Washington DC is a football town. I like the Wizards but cmon If fans had to pick between the Skins making the playoffs and the Wizards winning the NBA title most fans would choose the Skins just getting to the playoffs. Portis is #1 b/c most of DC likes the Skins more than any other DC team.

That's a LIEEEEEEEEEE and you know it...

DC is truly a basketball town at heart...
The streets of DC is strictly basketball, baby...

Just never had a team to root for for 25 years now...
Gilbert Arenas and the Wizards winning the Title would be MUCH more gratifying than just the Redskins making the playoffs last year...

Washington became a football town because of Joe Gibbs...
It's a basketball town at heart...

Gilbert Arenas get's my vote and many others...
But arguing this on a football board isn't very fair either...

[LiveStrongSkins]

Portis is one of my favorite players on the Redskins but I think Arenas is the bigger DC star. The NBA is a more interactive sport. The fans are about 10 feet from Arenas at all times. He gets the fans involved with the games and even spends thousands of dollars to ensure that each game he can throw 1-2 jerseys into the stands. Both are great in the community, but I think Arenas has gone the extra mile by going on his own shopping spree for hurricane victimes and pretty much adopting the young boy who lost his whole family in a fire. He has already said the young boys college is already paid for. Also, Arenas I think is more of a fixture in the area. You get the feeling that Portis likes to split time between here and miami... not that theres anything wrong with that.. its where he grew up.

[LiveStrongSkins]

2 weeks ago someone posted the same thread except it wasnt a poll. Please be kind and use the search function.
EXTREMESKINS.com - Most Popular DC Athlete??? (http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152631&page=1&pp=15)

Too answer this poll question it is Clinton Portis in a landslide. Washington DC is a football town. I like the Wizards but cmon If fans had to pick between the Skins making the playoffs and the Wizards winning the NBA title most fans would choose the Skins just getting to the playoffs. Portis is #1 b/c most of DC likes the Skins more than any other DC team.

You are right more people like the Redskins.. but that doesnt make Portis DC's most popular athlete. For one, football is much more of a team sport. Arenas pretty much carries the wizards and embodies the fanbase. Portis is my favorite Redskin but I think Arenas is the bigger DC star.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

Portis is one of my favorite players on the Redskins but I think Arenas is the bigger DC star. The NBA is a more interactive sport. The fans are about 10 feet from Arenas at all times. He gets the fans involved with the games and even spends thousands of dollars to ensure that each game he can throw 1-2 jerseys into the stands. Both are great in the community, but I think Arenas has gone the extra mile by going on his own shopping spree for hurricane victimes and pretty much adopting the young boy who lost his whole family in a fire. He has already said the young boys college is already paid for. Also, Arenas I think is more of a fixture in the area. You get the feeling that Portis likes to split time between here and miami... not that theres anything wrong with that.. its where he grew up.

Exactly...

Gilbert Arenas carries the Wizards to the playoffs two years in a row now and is seen as a Washington basketball savior, throws jerseys into the stands after every game, plays in the offseason on courts hardly any NBA players would dare step foot on in rough neighborhoods within the city, has been known to do great things in the community like caring for that young boy, etc...

I don't think Clinton Portis embodies what Arenas does as a star within a city...

He's a Florida boy who's surrounded by other football stars. Gilbert Arenas doesn't make you feel he's a Valley guy from Cali. and he's the best basketball player Washington has watched in probably 25 years...

How can this be argued?

[chiplohmillers#1]

Arena's 2 time allstar in a game built around individuals. Portis has to go to the pro bowl before being close to what Arenas is.

[redskinedwizard]

i have to go with Gilbert

[ouvan59]

That's a LIEEEEEEEEEE and you know it...

DC is truly a basketball town at heart...
The streets of DC is strictly basketball, baby...

Just never had a team to root for for 25 years now...
Gilbert Arenas and the Wizards winning the Title would be MUCH more gratifying than just the Redskins making the playoffs last year...

Washington became a football town because of Joe Gibbs...
It's a basketball town at heart...

Gilbert Arenas get's my vote and many others...
But arguing this on a football board isn't very fair either...

DC is a great basketball town in terms of producing talent but it doesn't hold a candle to the Skins as far as general fan interest. The Wizards are in the playoffs and I guarantee that half the time on talk radio this week has been spent talking about the Skins and the NFL in general and there hasn't been a game played in 3 months. The Redskins dominated this town well before Joe Gibbs came to town.

I do agree that the Wizards winning the NBA title would be a bigger story than the Skins making the playoffs but if the Skins win another SB this town will shut down. How many members does ExtremeWizards.com have?

[ouvan59]

I'm going to play the race card for just a moment but this is why I truly believe the NFL is more popular than the NBA(not saying the nba would be more popular otherwise) and its because the NBA is a 95% black dominated league but this is changing now because a lot of foreign players are entering the draft and we having emerging ncaa prospects (redick,morrison).

That's horse hockey. Football is just a much better game. I don't know if you noticed or not but the NFL has a pretty darn high percentage of black players as well. And if the reason the NBA isn't more popular because of the percentage of blacks then why are the ratings going down right now when that percentage is decreasing with the infusion of Europeans and Latinos? I love college basketball but the NBA bores me because unlike college every possession doesn't really matter. Plus the fans are never really that into it.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

DC is a great basketball town in terms of producing talent but it doesn't hold a candle to the Skins as far as general fan interest. The Wizards are in the playoffs and I guarantee that half the time on talk radio this week has been spent talking about the Skins and the NFL in general and there hasn't been a game played in 3 months. The Redskins dominated this town well before Joe Gibbs came to town.

I do agree that the Wizards winning the NBA title would be a bigger story than the Skins making the playoffs but if the Skins win another SB this town will shut down. How many members does ExtremeWizards.com have?

Is there an ExtremeWizards.com? :wtf:

[RedskinsNation]

The fan base of the Redskins dwarfs that of the Wizards....the Redskins are the city's passion and the Wizards are "something to do" (to most that is). So most are going to say Portis...which is the correct answer :)

I love both teams (however i love the Redskins MORE).

I'd say:

1. Portis
2. Arenas

But really though its apples & oranges...cuz its seasonal. If the Wiz knock the Cavs out 4-1 and GA averages 30+ a game then the poll will change.

[Lloyds' Mongolian Beef]

I refuse to answer this question because I harbor extreme man-love for both athletes. :cool:

[GaryClark4Canton]

I refuse to answer this question because I harbor extreme man-love for both athletes. :cool:

I don't know, sounds kinda brokebackish to me :D

I have to say Portis is the most popular just due to the fact that the NFL is a bigger sport nationwide.

Until I see arenas doing hungry man commercials with shaq my money is on portis.

But man, I sure am glad we have those two in DC!

:::decides not to go any further for fear of being called brokebackish as well lol:::

[NattyLight]

More football fans than basketball. Clinton.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

The fan base of the Redskins dwarfs that of the Wizards....the Redskins are the city's passion and the Wizards are "something to do" (to most that is). So most are going to say Portis...which is the correct answer :)

I love both teams (however i love the Redskins MORE).

I'd say:

1. Portis
2. Arenas

But really though its apples & oranges...cuz its seasonal. If the Wiz knock the Cavs out 4-1 and GA averages 30+ a game then the poll will change.

I already explained why Arenas is the answer...
Just because you like the Redskins more doesn't mean that Portis is more of a superstar in the city than Arenas...

Arenas gets close and personal with the fans, he's great in the community, in the offseason is seen in the middle of the hood playing with everyday people down at The Farms, he's taken the Wizards to the playoffs two years in a row now and looks to get outta the first round two years in a row now, he's done more for Washington Sports than Portis(Bringing the Wiz outta the gutter and into the spotlight), whereas Portis was actually on a 6-10 team his first year and underachieved many believed and this next year he finally blossomed, Arenas is All-NBA and two time all-star now who's the definite face of the franchise, whether you like 'em more than the Redskins or not...

I love the Redskins but I'm definitely saying Arenas is the man in this city and should be for the next 10+ years... :notworthy

[ouvan59]

Is there an ExtremeWizards.com? :wtf:

That's exactly my point.

[GaryClark4Canton]

Is there an ExtremeWizards.com? :wtf:

I believe this thread can officially close now

[stwasm]

Right now, it's Gilbert Arenas based on the success he's had in this town. Clinton Portis has set a new club record for rushing yards and has led the Skins to a playoff win. Arenas is the Wizards' leading scorer and has gotten the DC Boys to the second-round of the playoffs. As of this moment, he's definitely had more success and is best known for hitting that shot at the buzzer to beat the Bulls in game 5 of last season's playoffs. I'm sure Portis has some GREAT years ahead of him and could very well lead the Redskins to bigger playoff glory. But as of this moment, the nod has to go to Arenas.

[ouvan59]

I already explained why Arenas is the answer...
Just because you like the Redskins more doesn't mean that Portis is more of a superstar in the city than Arenas...

Arenas gets close and personal with the fans, he's great in the community, in the offseason is seen in the middle of the hood playing with everyday people down at The Farms, he's taken the Wizards to the playoffs two years in a row now and looks to get outta the first round two years in a row now, he's done more for Washington Sports than Portis(Bringing the Wiz outta the gutter and into the spotlight), whereas Portis was actually on a 6-10 team his first year and underachieved many believed and this next year he finally blossomed, Arenas is All-NBA and two time all-star now who's the definite face of the franchise, whether you like 'em more than the Redskins or not...

I love the Redskins but I'm definitely saying Arenas is the man in this city and should be for the next 10+ years... :notworthy

You won't get an argument from me that Arenas is a better player in his sport than Portis is in his but I don't think you fully grasp the actual gap there is in fan interest in this town for the Skins and Wizards. Plus you condemn Portis for underachieving on a 6-10 team his first year. How do you explain Gilbert Arenas being the leader of the 25-57 Wizards his first year in town which was 12 fewer wins than the year before? Both are stars but the Redskin umbrella covers so much more area.

[jeronimobrat]

I already explained why Arenas is the answer...
Just because you like the Redskins more doesn't mean that Portis is more of a superstar in the city than Arenas...

Arenas gets close and personal with the fans, he's great in the community, in the offseason is seen in the middle of the hood playing with everyday people down at The Farms, he's taken the Wizards to the playoffs two years in a row now and looks to get outta the first round two years in a row now, he's done more for Washington Sports than Portis(Bringing the Wiz outta the gutter and into the spotlight), whereas Portis was actually on a 6-10 team his first year and underachieved many believed and this next year he finally blossomed, Arenas is All-NBA and two time all-star now who's the definite face of the franchise, whether you like 'em more than the Redskins or not...

I love the Redskins but I'm definitely saying Arenas is the man in this city and should be for the next 10+ years... :notworthy

I agree with your conceptual arguement that Gilbert Arenas is the embodiment of this town we live in.

I am also very satisfied with the results that we have received from GA and CP. And I want to say that I hope they remain in Washington for the years to come.:D

[Gamebreaker]

It is not because of race, it is because those over-paid athletes DO NOT TRY until they make the playoffs. The season is a joke, 82 games of BS. They don't hustle back on D, they don't contest every shot, if they get beat off the dribble nobody plays help D because they all know the only thing keeping fans watching is sick highlight reel dunks. These guys do not try. Hockey and Football players have the most guts out of any sport because they leave it all on the field. Their players might have up and down games (Giants???) but at least we tried. And do not get me started on the playoffs, maybe if less only the top 4 teams make it like in Baseball then they might get off their lazy buts and try during the season> :doh: :doh: :doh: The NBA sucks.

That was off topic. I think Ovechkin has Freddy A beat around the world because it is already known that Ovechkin is the best hockey player in the world right now. Guys, we have the best player in the world playing in our City and you leave him off the list? Thats shameful.

I highly disagree, and here is why.

NBA players are in better shape than football players, and possibly hockey players as well. You can't be in the NBA, and not be at peak physical condition. Don't talk to me about overpaid stiffs, they are in every league. Guys get money and then they lose their focus. Prime examples in our own city are Dana Stubblefield when he was a Redskin, and Jagr when he was a Capital.

To say teams don't play hard until the playoffs is contradictory, because if you don't play hard in the regular season YOUR TEAM DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. You can always tell which teams play defense, their always the ones at the top of the standings and regularly post 50 win seasons. Your post was complete bull**** up until you talked about the new kid for the Capitals, I like him, he'll be a major star soon.

[Gamebreaker]

Portis is one of my favorite players on the Redskins but I think Arenas is the bigger DC star. The NBA is a more interactive sport. The fans are about 10 feet from Arenas at all times. He gets the fans involved with the games and even spends thousands of dollars to ensure that each game he can throw 1-2 jerseys into the stands. Both are great in the community, but I think Arenas has gone the extra mile by going on his own shopping spree for hurricane victimes and pretty much adopting the young boy who lost his whole family in a fire. He has already said the young boys college is already paid for. Also, Arenas I think is more of a fixture in the area. You get the feeling that Portis likes to split time between here and miami... not that theres anything wrong with that.. its where he grew up.

Exactly. Arenas is the perfect person you would want with the type of attention he gets. You won't find him getting in trouble with the law, he uses his fame to help out in the community, and with all of his physical talent he's still humble....well, at least he's humble off the court. :laugh:

Anyone who choses Portis over Arenas is just being a homer.

[CMonster]

Kinda shocked at the results, even though this is a skins/football board.

Portis is one of the top 5 RBs in the game, Arenas is one of the top 10 players in the entire NBA.

He's the best player in his sport the DC area has had in a long time. He's young, he does nothing but work on his game, and he doesn't WANT a max contract so the Wiz can sign other players. He's too good to be true.

If Portis goes down, the Skins would hurt but could get by with Betts and Rock and even throw the ball more. If Arenas goes down, the entire Wiz franchise goes with him.

I love Clinton Portis, but he's not the right answer.

[Gamebreaker]

The fan base of the Redskins dwarfs that of the Wizards....the Redskins are the city's passion and the Wizards are "something to do" (to most that is). So most are going to say Portis...which is the correct answer :)

I love both teams (however i love the Redskins MORE).

I'd say:

1. Portis
2. Arenas

But really though its apples & oranges...cuz its seasonal. If the Wiz knock the Cavs out 4-1 and GA averages 30+ a game then the poll will change.

This has nothing to do with basketball vs. football. This is whether one individual is a bigger star than another, whether the sport they play is more popular than another holds no bearing.

[thelarkascend1ng]

both of them are similar in that they are both goofy and unique yet have incredible talent and attitude. i love their style. read the wiki on gilbert arenas, it's hysterical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Arenas

freaking online poker at the half. that guy rules.

[NEMO]

I highly disagree, and here is why.

NBA players are in better shape than football players, and possibly hockey players as well. You can't be in the NBA, and not be at peak physical condition. Don't talk to me about overpaid stiffs, they are in every league. Guys get money and then they lose their focus. Prime examples in our own city are Dana Stubblefield when he was a Redskin, and Jagr when he was a Capital.

To say teams don't play hard until the playoffs is contradictory, because if you don't play hard in the regular season YOUR TEAM DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. You can always tell which teams play defense, their always the ones at the top of the standings and regularly post 50 win seasons. Your post was complete bull**** up until you talked about the new kid for the Capitals, I like him, he'll be a major star soon.

Scotty Pippen said that he never really tried until the playoffs and if you asked the question maybe they just manage the game, keep it close until the 4th quarter. Either way, when you look at the quality of basketball compared to the Pro's and the College level in basketball, from an entertainment standpoint, they do not compare. NBA is just plain boring to watch... Up until the playoffs. I am not saying that Basketball players are not in shape physiacally, but they do not go through the physicall play that football and hockey do. They just don't. And nobody could disagree because they would be wrong. Hockey players block shots, have checks and football players grind it out in the trenches. A player might dive into the stands but I can not think of anything else that even comes close. Just look at the intensity level between college and the pro's and that is what is wrong with the NBA. Also the playoff system is aweful. I am not saying that EVERYBODY makes the playoffs but sub par teams do. Any playoff system where teams who are under .500 are competing for the Championship just does not make sense to me. My thread is not bs, and Portis is bigger because D.C. is a football city and not a basketball town. Also, Arena's is one of the most under-rated basketball stars in the league. How does the 4th leading scorer not make the All-star team reserve's??? Not a knock on Gilbert, it is a knock on the system... but if he was a big superstar then he would not have made the Allstar team by default.


By the way, hockey is one of the most physically demanding sports to play. They are the most inshape (aerobically and anareobically) out of the four major sports.

[skinz4evr]

Portis and the Redskins are more popular because basketball SUCKS. Capital s-u-c-k-s SUCKS.

[RedskinPride27]

I actually will have to go with Arenas ahead of Portis. Although I will say I am proud of both of them and their achievements and I'm glad to have them both representing our teams.

[GaryClark4Canton]

both of them are similar in that they are both goofy and unique yet have incredible talent and attitude. i love their style. read the wiki on gilbert arenas, it's hysterical.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Arenas

freaking online poker at the half. that guy rules.

Can I change my vote to Arenas? That dude rocks. I picked portis for my love for the skins but man, I am rally enjoying the wizards having a jordan-esque star. Yes, jordan-esque!

[gube79]

Gilbert Arenas always strikes me as someone who looks bored on the court. His mannerisms say it all. He barely passes the damn ball and doesn't get his team hype at all. It's all about him during games. These are just observations. I don't know the dude personally but this is what I observe while watching games.

[DjTj]

Scotty Pippen said that he never really tried until the playoffs and if you asked the question maybe they just manage the game, keep it close until the 4th quarter. Either way, when you look at the quality of basketball compared to the Pro's and the College level in basketball, from an entertainment standpoint, they do not compare. NBA is just plain boring to watch... Up until the playoffs. I am not saying that Basketball players are not in shape physiacally, but they do not go through the physicall play that football and hockey do. They just don't. And nobody could disagree because they would be wrong. Hockey players block shots, have checks and football players grind it out in the trenches. A player might dive into the stands but I can not think of anything else that even comes close. Just look at the intensity level between college and the pro's and that is what is wrong with the NBA. Also the playoff system is aweful. I am not saying that EVERYBODY makes the playoffs but sub par teams do. Any playoff system where teams who are under .500 are competing for the Championship just does not make sense to me. My thread is not bs, and Portis is bigger because D.C. is a football city and not a basketball town. Also, Arena's is one of the most under-rated basketball stars in the league. How does the 4th leading scorer not make the All-star team reserve's??? Not a knock on Gilbert, it is a knock on the system... but if he was a big superstar then he would not have made the Allstar team by default.


By the way, hockey is one of the most physically demanding sports to play. They are the most inshape (aerobically and anareobically) out of the four major sports.

Basketball is a different kind of sport. There isn't the hard hitting like there is in football or hockey, but from an entertainment standpoint, sometimes it's fun to watch reverse dunks and behind-the-back passes or to watch someone absolutely catch fire and take over a game - that's what makes regular season basketball fun to watch even if it isn't battle-to-the-death competition for 4 quarters.

The NBA could probably cut it to 6-team playoffs, but that's really a business decision. College basketball lets in 64 teams, so maybe that's just the culture of the sport - postseason performance is what matters so the regular season is just less intense. Hockey is the same thing with regular season vs. playoffs - I personally can't watch hockey during the regular season because it's all about that tension of not knowing what could happen in the next 10 seconds.

And DC is very much a basketball town. Unfortunately, the Bullets haven't been very good for a long time, but at the high school level and the college level, this area is all about basketball. There's no reason that shouldn't translate into the pros. The Redskins will always be the top franchise in the area, but there's plenty of room for other teams because DC is a great sports town in general.

This debate is Portis vs. Gilbert though, and I think for right now, the biggest star has to be Gilbert Arenas. Clinton Portis shares the spotlight with Santana Moss, Lavar (until recently), and most importantly with the real star of the Redskins: Joe Gibbs. When football season comes around, Portis will be much bigger than Gilbert, but right now, with a playoff game coming to town on Friday, you have to go with number zero.

I love both these guys though, and there are some eery similarities: Gilbert was the number 4 scorer in the league, and he had to be added to the All-Star team by David Stern. Portis was the number 4 rusher in the league but he was only a Pro Bowl alternate. They're both young and underrated and about to take their respective leagues by storm. They are both kind of top-heavy and don't exactly have prototypical body types for what they do (Portis as a power back or Gilbert as a slasher/scorer). They are both goofy as heck, and they're both free agents that came to DC and resurrected their franchises.

We've all got to be happy about having both these guys in the area.

[LOOPSKIN28]

As of last night it's Arenas. In a couple months though we'll be feeling the CP love again...

[Mooka]

Gilbert.

Football is too much of a team sport.

[Diablo23]

Gilbert Arenas always strikes me as someone who looks bored on the court. His mannerisms say it all. He barely passes the damn ball and doesn't get his team hype at all. It's all about him during games. These are just observations. I don't know the dude personally but this is what I observe while watching games.

Wow.. Arenas gets the Wizards going, if he's aggressive.. the team is..

4th leading scorer.. you don't play bored on the court.. I mean he puts in so much work in the gym.. he's such a gym rat.. his work ethic is second to none.. he cares about what he's doing, I don't know maybe you watched when he had a rare off night or somethin.

[nonniey]

I'll answer this question with a question. Who is Arenas? (No, I'm not kidding I have know idea who he is). Now I'll go and read the thread and find out.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

I'll answer this question with a question. Who is Arenas? (No, I'm not kidding I have know idea who he is). Now I'll go and read the thread and find out.

:doh:

[ouvan59]

Exactly. Arenas is the perfect person you would want with the type of attention he gets. You won't find him getting in trouble with the law, he uses his fame to help out in the community, and with all of his physical talent he's still humble....well, at least he's humble off the court. :laugh:

Anyone who choses Portis over Arenas is just being a homer.

The question isn't who is the better player. The question is who is the bigger star in this area and Portis wins hands down because this town is all about the Redskins. Where are all the Gilbert Arenas ads? Portis has a ton more endorsement deals in this area because this town is all about the Redskins and Portis has the personality of a star. His press conferences last year were national news and the local media made a big deal out of it every week. I suggest you turn on WTEM on Friday and listen to what they are talking about. They will spend about 15 minutes on game 3 of the Wizards-Cavs and then the rest of the show about the NFL draft with the Nats new ownership possibly stealing another 15 minutes.

As for the guy that said that Arenas isn't giving his all, I'm not sure what you've been watching because he is a great, great player and this year more than any other has carried the Wizards. If anything I don't think he gets the recognition he deserves.

[JimmyConway]

FREDDDY ADUUUUUU.....nah its has to be GIL

[gube79]

Wow.. Arenas gets the Wizards going, if he's aggressive.. the team is..

4th leading scorer.. you don't play bored on the court.. I mean he puts in so much work in the gym.. he's such a gym rat.. his work ethic is second to none.. he cares about what he's doing, I don't know maybe you watched when he had a rare off night or somethin.

I watch almost every game, including last night's. Mind you, I think he is a phenomenal talent (no question), but thing is, he was talking to the crowd most of the game (smiling, flexing his muscles and everything). I know he's good and so does everybody else but I think he needs to use some of the energy to corral his unproductive teammates instead of posing for the camera trying to get endorsements. Good idea but bad timing.

[santana4prez]

That's a LIEEEEEEEEEE and you know it...

DC is truly a basketball town at heart...
The streets of DC is strictly basketball, baby...

Just never had a team to root for for 25 years now...
Gilbert Arenas and the Wizards winning the Title would be MUCH more gratifying than just the Redskins making the playoffs last year...

Washington became a football town because of Joe Gibbs...
It's a basketball town at heart...

Gilbert Arenas get's my vote and many others...
But arguing this on a football board isn't very fair either...

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You are right more people like the Redskins.. but that doesnt make Portis DC's most popular athlete. For one, football is much more of a team sport. Arenas pretty much carries the wizards and embodies the fanbase. Portis is my favorite Redskin but I think Arenas is the bigger DC star.

I love Arenas but I think more fans like Portis a hell of a lot more including me and heres why. Why you ask? The answer is easy..... Arenas cant win a game for the Skins and thats what most DC fans care about. The Skins winning.

[Gamebreaker]

Scotty Pippen said that he never really tried until the playoffs and if you asked the question maybe they just manage the game, keep it close until the 4th quarter.

Scottie Pippen played on one of, if not the best, basketball teams ever. I'm sure he didn't have to try too hard, when he also played with arguably the best player to ever play the game. Futhermore, how is one player's habits suppose to help your argument in sterotyping an entire league. :doh: Sorry, that doesn't work here.



Either way, when you look at the quality of basketball compared to the Pro's and the College level in basketball, from an entertainment standpoint, they do not compare.

I see you added from an entertainment standpoint, because it's definitely not from talent. The only reason why college basketball has been more popular is because of the NCAA tournament. Before that, college basketball has the same level of attention as the NBA. Buzzer beaters make the NCAA tournament, period.


I am not saying that Basketball players are not in shape physiacally, but they do not go through the physicall play that football and hockey do.

This is what I'm calling bull**** to. You're taking your personal opinion about those sports and making up facts. All NBA players get beat up during the games, there is nothing that is NOT physical about it. Ask Allen Iverson about the numerous injuries and re-injured parts of his body. Regardless, just because it isn't AS physical as football doesn't mean these guys are *******.


They just don't. And nobody could disagree because they would be wrong.

Wow. That says alot about your objectivity. You're right, and everyone who disagrees with you must be wrong. I guess facts don't get to disagree with you either, huh?


Hockey players block shots, have checks and football players grind it out in the trenches. A player might dive into the stands but I can not think of anything else that even comes close.

Well that is just fine, I can think of plenty. How about driving to the lane and getting thrown to the floor, or being undercut and falling on your neck. Forwards and Centers battle it out in the paint, beating each other up, before they even get the ball in their hands. Furthermore, no sport leaves you more winded when it comes down to the wire.


Also the playoff system is aweful. I am not saying that EVERYBODY makes the playoffs but sub par teams do. Any playoff system where teams who are under .500 are competing for the Championship just does not make sense to me.

So are you denying that sub-par teams make the playoffs in the NFL? How many teams who finished 8-8 were still in contention for the NFC playoffs in the last 5 years?


My thread is not bs, and Portis is bigger because D.C. is a football city and not a basketball town.

Like I said before, what does this have to do with the popularity of two INDIVIDUALS. In Chicago, before Jordan arrived, wasn't that a big football town. "Da Bears" is all people cared about, MJ changed that. It had nothing to do with the popularity of each sport, it was about the star power and marketability of an individual player. Not his team, sport, or city.

[Gamebreaker]

The question isn't who is the better player. The question is who is the bigger star in this area and Portis wins hands down because this town is all about the Redskins. Where are all the Gilbert Arenas ads? Portis has a ton more endorsement deals in this area because this town is all about the Redskins and Portis has the personality of a star. His press conferences last year were national news and the local media made a big deal out of it every week. I suggest you turn on WTEM on Friday and listen to what they are talking about. They will spend about 15 minutes on game 3 of the Wizards-Cavs and then the rest of the show about the NFL draft with the Nats new ownership possibly stealing another 15 minutes.

As for the guy that said that Arenas isn't giving his all, I'm not sure what you've been watching because he is a great, great player and this year more than any other has carried the Wizards. If anything I don't think he gets the recognition he deserves.

The only endorsements I see Portis with, are those eastern motors commercials, and he shares those with Lavar, Rogers, and Taylor. I think the community looks at Arenas as a star more than Portis because he's actually a part of the community. Portis isn't.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

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I love Arenas but I think more fans like Portis a hell of a lot more including me and heres why. Why you ask? The answer is easy..... Arenas cant win a game for the Skins and thats what most DC fans care about. The Skins winning.

You're from Norfolk, shut up... :doh:

[santana4prez]

You're from Norfolk, shut up... :doh:

Your point is? Everyone knows Washington DC is a football town. Anyone who says otherwise has mental problems.:insane:

[Mooka]

It is not because of race, it is because those over-paid athletes DO NOT TRY until they make the playoffs. The season is a joke, 82 games of BS. They don't hustle back on D, they don't contest every shot, if they get beat off the dribble nobody plays help D because they all know the only thing keeping fans watching is sick highlight reel dunks. These guys do not try. (...) Hockey and Football players have the most guts out of any sport because they leave it all on the field. Ahem..Randy Moss....


:silly: :owned:

[cmorina69]

CP for sure.

[Warhead36]

I don't know, now it just may be Arenas.

[Peregrine]

This is not a matter of who you personaly like better. This is not a matter of which sport you like better. This is not a matter of which players is more buddy buddy with fans. This is not a matter of which sport IS better, which player IS better and the like. The question is simple.

The answer is simply, Portis. Its a simply matter of common sense. The Redskins are the most popular sports team in North America. The Wizards are not even the most popular Basketball team on the East Coast. Take a look at the values assigned to both franchises. These are based on revenue, which is generated by selling tickets, selling jerseys, memorabilia etc, directly related to the popularity of a franchise. The top 16 rated TV programs over the fall and winter in this area? All Redskins games. Wizards games dont really come that close. Is Arenas wildly popular? yes.

But the face of the Redskins will always beat the face of the Wizards inany popularity contest, anyday, anytime. Its simple a matter of common sense.

[freakinandpeakin]

I highly disagree, and here is why.

NBA players are in better shape than football players, and possibly hockey players as well. You can't be in the NBA, and not be at peak physical condition. Don't talk to me about overpaid stiffs, they are in every league. Guys get money and then they lose their focus. Prime examples in our own city are Dana Stubblefield when he was a Redskin, and Jagr when he was a Capital.

To say teams don't play hard until the playoffs is contradictory, because if you don't play hard in the regular season YOUR TEAM DOESN'T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS. You can always tell which teams play defense, their always the ones at the top of the standings and regularly post 50 win seasons. Your post was complete bull**** up until you talked about the new kid for the Capitals, I like him, he'll be a major star soon.

All these athletes are in amazing physical shape, but different kinds of shape.

I would gather that hockey players are probably the most well rounded athletes when it comes to conditioning. They play at 45 to 60 second shifts that are all out and includes high levels of balance, speed, stamina and hitting.

Football players exceed in the collision aspect of the sport in the fact that the contact in football is generally head on, as compare to hockey hitting which is more often than not head on. When it is head on you end up with RJ Umberger of the Flyers this past weekend, knocked out before he hits the ice (remember hockey players are skating upwards of 30 MPH).

Basketball has high endurance levels, for the the length of time players are on the court and the physical contact that goes on underneath the boards.


As for the notion that Gilbert Arenas is a bigger star that Clinton Portis. Here is the ultimate test, if both sports had their championships at the same time and both Gilbert Arenas and Clinton Portis got hurt just before the final game, which one would get more coverage on the local news and local papers? Clinton Portis.

I here some talk about the love of basketball in DC. Are we talking about who is more popular in DC, or in the DC region? The Wizards do not even approach the popularity of the Redskins in the DC region. Just look at the ratings for a Wizards first round playoff game as compared to a Redskins pre-season game. I don't have the numbers, but I would guess that the Redskins pre-season game probably draws a bigger TV viewing interest in the DC region.

If the standard you want to use is the level of achievement in his particular sport, which some have, you can argue that Arenas has accomplished more. But then you have to bring Ovechkin into the conversation, since he as a rookie is vaulted into discussion of the Hart (league MVP, he won't win) and Pearson (best player chosen by the players, he has a chance) Trophies and Arenas hasn't done that.

It has been a long long time since Washington has had one "homegrown star." (While Arenas and Portis started elsewhere they are developing into stars here). And now we have three bonafide superstars in this city. Let's celebrate them all!

[HoyaSkins28]

I love Gilbert Arenas, i think hes a top 10 basketball player, but i think portis takes this. Ovechkin should be in this race too.

[Spartacus87]

This is not a matter of who you personaly like better. This is not a matter of which sport you like better. This is not a matter of which players is more buddy buddy with fans. This is not a matter of which sport IS better, which player IS better and the like. The question is simple.
The answer is simply, Portis. Its a simply matter of common sense. The Redskins are the most popular sports team in North America. The Wizards are not even the most popular Basketball team on the East Coast. Take a look at the values assigned to both franchises. These are based on revenue, which is generated by selling tickets, selling jerseys, memorabilia etc, directly related to the popularity of a franchise. The top 16 rated TV programs over the fall and winter in this area? All Redskins games. Wizards games dont really come that close. Is Arenas wildly popular? yes.
But the face of the Redskins will always beat the face of the Wizards inany popularity contest, anyday, anytime. Its simple a matter of common sense. This post is spot on. D.C. and the D.C. area loves the Wizards obviously, but the fact is they're definitely second to the Redskins in terms of regional fan appreciation. D.C. is a football town, end of story, and when you have a charismatic, record-breaking NFL superstar as the starting RB, he's going to be more popular than a Wizards player any day of the week. Has Arenas ever been invited to the White House for anything? No. The Wizards are more popular than the Caps and probably the Nationals, but compared to the Redskins it really isn't in the same league.

[Gamebreaker]

This is not a matter of who you personaly like better. This is not a matter of which sport you like better. This is not a matter of which players is more buddy buddy with fans. This is not a matter of which sport IS better, which player IS better and the like. The question is simple.

The answer is simply, Portis. Its a simply matter of common sense. The Redskins are the most popular sports team in North America. The Wizards are not even the most popular Basketball team on the East Coast. Take a look at the values assigned to both franchises. These are based on revenue, which is generated by selling tickets, selling jerseys, memorabilia etc, directly related to the popularity of a franchise. The top 16 rated TV programs over the fall and winter in this area? All Redskins games. Wizards games dont really come that close. Is Arenas wildly popular? yes.

But the face of the Redskins will always beat the face of the Wizards inany popularity contest, anyday, anytime. Its simple a matter of common sense.

The Redskins are not the most popular team in North America. Yes, they generate the most revenue. This is mainly because we have a huge fanbase in the area and the biggest stadium in the NFL. That does not mean we are the most popular team. Go outside of the DC area, and you'll be hard pressed to find many jerseys and memorabilia. Revenue is not directly related to popularity of a franchise, it's only a piece of the pie.

[Robbynice]

Portis it is IMHO.

[ciresolstice]

Worldwide: Alexander Ovechkin. In DC: Portis.


^^ Elliot is that you? (as in EITM) :laugh: you'd have to listen to the morning show to understand that.


That's a tough one to me. I'm gonna say Arenas though. far as impact. Portis is great..and a character lol but Gil is the Wizards man. Where would they be without that guy. On the Skins you have Moss, and Cooley and Marcus Washington etc.

[FightForOldDC21]

BOTH... tough decision

[skins84]

This isn't a fair poll since this is a redskins message board, and everyone here is a redskins fan.

I'm sure everyone here isn't a extreme wizards fan as well, therefore Arenas is at a disadvantage.

[skins84]

Portis needs to start bein all pro before he can get on Arenas level.

Arenas is the Washington Wizards...

[santana4prez]

This isn't a fair poll since this is a redskins message board, and everyone here is a redskins fan.

I'm sure everyone here isn't a extreme wizards fan as well, therefore Arenas is at a disadvantage.

lol I bet if this poll was in the Washington Post POrtis would win in a landslide.


Portis needs to start bein all pro before he can get on Arenas level.

Arenas is the Washington Wizards...

Yes Arenas is the Washington Wizards but more people watch and care about the Skins than the Wizards period. Therefore more people like Portis over Arenas.

Dont be an ass and slam Portis when everyone knows DC is a football town. Go back to a Wizard board if you need to diss Portis to make your point.

[freakinandpeakin]

This poll isn't about who is more important to their team. The poll is who is a bigger star in Washington. In sheer numbers there are more Redskins fans, which makes him a bigger star.

[Skinja]

it can be both. they are both among the best at their respective sports.

[Spartacus87]

The Redskins are not the most popular team in North America. Yes, they generate the most revenue. This is mainly because we have a huge fanbase in the area and the biggest stadium in the NFL. That does not mean we are the most popular team. Go outside of the DC area, and you'll be hard pressed to find many jerseys and memorabilia. Revenue is not directly related to popularity of a franchise, it's only a piece of the pie. Pretty debatable. Trust me, even down here in Tampa you'd be surprised how much Redskins gear is available. When I went to the first Tampa/Skins game last fall the stadium was easily 1/6th Redskins fans. At all of the local sports merchandising places there were plenty of Moss, Portis, and Taylor jerseys available, and when I wear my #36 or #47 jerseys around I've had a fair number of people randomly say they like the Redskins even though they're not from the D.C. area. To say that you'd be "hard pressed to find many jerseys and memorabilia" outside of D.C. is definitely an exaggeration. The Redskins ARE one of the most popular NFL teams in the nation, if not among the most popular sports teams in general due to their success in the 80s and Gibbs' return.


lol I bet if this poll was in the Washington Post POrtis would win in a landslide.
Yes Arenas is the Washington Wizards but more people watch and care about the Skins than the Wizards period. Therefore more people like Portis over Arenas.
Dont be an ass and slam Portis when everyone knows DC is a football town. Go back to a Wizard board if you need to diss Portis to make your point. Thank you. I think some people are missing the serious point here that far more people watch and care about the Redskins than they do the Wizards. Nobody is saying anything bad about Arenas or the Wizards, everyone supports them, but to try to argue that the Wizards or anyone on the Wizards are as popular as the Redskins or the Redskins superstar RB is just silly. And no reason to bash Portis or say "when he goes All Pro" as if he hasn't done anything worth note in his career. Guy broke the single season Redskins rushing record last year and carried the team into the playoffs while getting snubbed horribly for the Pro Bowl, so he's clearly no joke.

[santana4prez]

Thank you. I think some people are missing the serious point here that far more people watch and care about the Redskins than they do the Wizards. Nobody is saying anything bad about Arenas or the Wizards, everyone supports them, but to try to argue that the Wizards or anyone on the Wizards are as popular as the Redskins or the Redskins superstar RB is just silly. And no reason to bash Portis or say "when he goes All Pro" as if he hasn't done anything worth note in his career. Guy broke the single season Redskins rushing record last year and carried the team into the playoffs while getting snubbed horribly for the Pro Bowl, so he's clearly no joke.

Great Post.:applause: Everything you posted was fact and hopefully the few Wizard fans who think DC is a basketball town will wake up and see all the Bugundy and Gold.

[FootballGuy2677]

Clinton Portis, Gilbert Arenas, Sean Taylor, and Caron Butler are awesome. Their my favorite players in Washington Sports. Gotta give the edge to Clinton Portis though just becuase this is a football town.

[Gamebreaker]

Pretty debatable. Trust me, even down here in Tampa you'd be surprised how much Redskins gear is available. When I went to the first Tampa/Skins game last fall the stadium was easily 1/6th Redskins fans. At all of the local sports merchandising places there were plenty of Moss, Portis, and Taylor jerseys available, and when I wear my #36 or #47 jerseys around I've had a fair number of people randomly say they like the Redskins even though they're not from the D.C. area. To say that you'd be "hard pressed to find many jerseys and memorabilia" outside of D.C. is definitely an exaggeration. The Redskins ARE one of the most popular NFL teams in the nation, if not among the most popular sports teams in general due to their success in the 80s and Gibbs' return.


North Carolina used to be big on the Redskins, since they were the closest NFL franchise to them. Now, you will hardly ever see any Skins jerseys sold or worn. This is the same for other places I've been, such as Atlanta, Philadelphia, LA, or Texas.

The Redskins ARE NOT the most popular NFL franchise, the vast majority of the teams revenue comes from the stadium. Not merchandising sales. If you don't want to believe that, and continue to support something that isn't true, I can show a link that proves it.

[Gamebreaker]

Great Post.:applause: Everything you posted was fact and hopefully the few Wizard fans who think DC is a basketball town will wake up and see all the Bugundy and Gold.

How many college football programs are big around here? How many college basketball programs are big? There are only two big football teams this area cares about, the Redskins and Terps. Compared to the Wizards, George Mason, Terps basketball, George Washington, and Georgetown. If this was a football town, than more football teams would be relevant than just the Redskins.

Just because the Skins are the most popular team, does not mean the other five programs that garner attention don't matter.

[#1SkinsFan]

Id say it was Arenas. I mean everyone loves him.

Same with CP, but the edge goes to Arenas.

[santana4prez]

Just because the Skins are the most popular team, does not mean the other five programs that garner attention don't matter.

I agree , I think the Redskins are easily #1 but all the other teams and programs do matter. Im not knocking any team besides the Skins in DC. I just think the Skins blow any other team or program away and im not the only one.

[DCSKINZ80]

I voted Arenas even though I'm a bigger Skins fan and I love CP. My reasoning is Arenas is the Wizards and without him they are nowhere to be found on the NBA radar. I understand the argument that the Redskins are more popular hence CP should get the nod but at the same time CP has to share the spotlight with Moss, ST and others.

[Spartacus87]

I agree , I think the Redskins are easily #1 but all the other teams and programs do matter. Im not knocking any team besides the Skins in DC. I just think the Skins blow any other team or program away and im not the only one. Seriously, nobody is saying anything bad about the Wizards. People need to stop trying to turn this into either the Redskins are overappreciated or the Wizards are underappreciated, the question asked was who was more popular in the D.C. region- Portis or Arenas. And right now the vote is over 60% in favor of Portis, although it really probably should be more, there's no actual valid reasoning that the Wizards are more popular than the Redskins based on merchandising, TV ratings, and the way the area as a whole reacts to the Redskins just beating the Cowboys compared to when the Wizards make the playoffs. But just because a bunch of people hopped on the Mason bandwagon this past year, or jump on the Hoya/Maryland bandwagon whenever they make the NCAA Tournament, doesn't mean it's a basketball town. The Wizards can do whatever they want in the off season, and unless it's something like Michael Jordan joining/quitting the team or Larry Hughes leaving, the headlines it makes pale in comparison to the front-page, full story Washington Post coverage the Redskins get when someone from the team calls a press conference to talk about how their day went. I'll say it one more time, very clearly, NOBODY is knocking the Wizards, the Capitals, the Nationals, hell even D.C. United, most people from the area are proud to support them, but as a whole they don't hold a candle to the love felt for the Redskins, they just don't. Joe Gibbs could run for mayor of D.C. and probably be elected in a heartbeat, end of story.

[Abieber301]

they both have a lot of personality, but I think it has to be Portis. Gilbert has been mentioned in the media bc of his jersey tossing and community work, but no one can argue with the many faces of Portis (Bro Sweets, Southeast Jerome, etc) that garnered national attention.

[santana4prez]

Seriously, nobody is saying anything bad about the Wizards. People need to stop trying to turn this into either the Redskins are overappreciated or the Wizards are underappreciated, the question asked was who was more popular in the D.C. region- Portis or Arenas. And right now the vote is over 60% in favor of Portis, although it really probably should be more, there's no actual valid reasoning that the Wizards are more popular than the Redskins based on merchandising, TV ratings, and the way the area as a whole reacts to the Redskins just beating the Cowboys compared to when the Wizards make the playoffs. But just because a bunch of people hopped on the Mason bandwagon this past year, or jump on the Hoya/Maryland bandwagon whenever they make the NCAA Tournament, doesn't mean it's a basketball town. The Wizards can do whatever they want in the off season, and unless it's something like Michael Jordan joining/quitting the team or Larry Hughes leaving, the headlines it makes pale in comparison to the front-page, full story Washington Post coverage the Redskins get when someone from the team calls a press conference to talk about how their day went. I'll say it one more time, very clearly, NOBODY is knocking the Wizards, the Capitals, the Nationals, hell even D.C. United, most people from the area are proud to support them, but as a whole they don't hold a candle to the love felt for the Redskins, they just don't. Joe Gibbs could run for mayor of D.C. and probably be elected in a heartbeat, end of story.

Another great post. This post somes up the whole thread. I couldnt of written it better myself.:applause: :notworthy :helmet:

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

So by your guys accounts if we somehow ended up with MJ in his prime, Clinton Portis would be the bigger star, because he simply plays for the Redskins.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Gilbert Arenas always strikes me as someone who looks bored on the court. His mannerisms say it all. He barely passes the damn ball and doesn't get his team hype at all. It's all about him during games. These are just observations. I don't know the dude personally but this is what I observe while watching games.

Wow... you couldnt be any farther from reality. Its all about him yet he averages almost 7 assists per game. :rolleyes: He would have more if we didnt have an incompetent backcourt.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Another great post. This post somes up the whole thread. I couldnt of written it better myself.:applause: :notworthy :helmet:

No.. its people like you who are getting all knotted up thinking everyone is saying the wizards are more popular. No one said that... I'm a bigger Redskin fan than Wizard fan, but Arenas is the bigger star in D.C. He is far more active in the community and is more of a fixture. He also gets the most out of fans at the games and is an all-nba performer. Whenever you see Portis he is talking about Miami, whenever you see Arenas he talks about how he has found a home here. He has engulfed the whole area. Basketball is much more of a individual sport, where stars are marketed. The area has recognized this and has done a better job recognizing Arenas individually. Portis is looked at as a hell of a peice to a good team. Arenas is looked at as everything Washington Basketball is about.

I see you are from Norfolk, that is only Redskin country down there. With having no close proximity to a NBA team you probably dont have the exposure to Arenas to really see. If you were in the D.C. area you would see.

[Gamebreaker]

So by your guys accounts if we somehow ended up with MJ in his prime, Clinton Portis would be the bigger star, because he simply plays for the Redskins.

Yes, that is how much homerism is going on in this thread. :laugh: :doh:

[Gamebreaker]

No.. its people like you who are getting all knotted up thinking everyone is saying the wizards are more popular. No one said that... I'm a bigger Redskin fan than Wizard fan, but Arenas is the bigger star in D.C. He is far more active in the community and is more of a fixture. He also gets the most out of fans at the games and is an all-nba performer. Whenever you see Portis he is talking about Miami, whenever you see Arenas he talks about how he has found a home here. He has engulfed the whole area. Basketball is much more of a individual sport, where stars are marketed. The area has recognized this and has done a better job recognizing Arenas individually. Portis is looked at as a hell of a peice to a good team. Arenas is looked at as everything Washington Basketball is about.

I see you are from Norfolk, that is only Redskin country down there. With having no close proximity to a NBA team you probably dont have the exposure to Arenas to really see. If you were in the D.C. area you would see.

This was my point. Too many posters in this thread have been confusing Portis vs. Arenas with the Wizards vs. Redskins, which it is not. By their skewed logic, Mike Sellers would be more popular than Arenas just because he's a Redskin. :rolleyes:

[RobMexico]

Well as a Cowboy fan living in the DC area I would hope most of you guys on this board will say Arenas. That guy is TRULY one of the elites in his profession and at his position.

And he's young, the Wizards need to keep this guy, lock him up for like a 10 year deal.

[chronicdesi]

I love them both, and I'm glad we have two superstars who are really down to earth and great for the team. Both are great for the city and the teams...

[carvixki25]

Individual figures in football are not as popular as individual figures in basketball (with the exception of Joe Gibbs in DC)...football is marketed as more of a 'team' sport. The Redskins are always going to be the most popular team in dc no question about that...BUT individually its got to be arenas, who is a budding superstar.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

Yes, that is how much homerism is going on in this thread. :laugh: :doh:

Thank you :cheers:

[santana4prez]

So by your guys accounts if we somehow ended up with MJ in his prime, Clinton Portis would be the bigger star, because he simply plays for the Redskins.

Actually when MJ came to the Wizards when he was past his prime he was probably the biggest DC sports star until people started to see that he wasnt his old self and he couldnt lead the Wizards to a title.

Yes I think that Portis is the bigger star because he simply plays for the Skins because simply most of DC cares about the Skins than the Wizards. Check the Redskins sellout streak and the season ticket waiting list before anyone suggests to me that the DC area is more of a basketball , baseball , or hockey town. Both of the players named are pretty much the same guy. Portis and Arenas are both great guys on and off the court but the edge would go to Portis because more fans care about the Skins. If the question was Marcus Washington or Gilbert Arenas I would say Arenas.


Yes, that is how much homerism is going on in this thread. :laugh: :doh:

It isnt homerism if we all like the same teams and most fans on this board like both the Redskins and the Wizards. I love the Wizards but to say Arenas is a bigger star in DC than Portis it shows that yall have some Wizardism going on.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

It isnt homerism if we all like the same teams and most fans on this board like both the Redskins and the Wizards. I love the Wizards but to say Arenas is a bigger star in DC than Portis it shows that yall have some Wizardism going on.

This isn't about if the Redskins are bigger or not...

Gilbert Arenas is more of a hometown superstar than Portis...
Is Chris Cooley bigger than Arenas?
Jon Jansen?

Come on...

[santana4prez]

This isn't about if the Redskins are bigger or not...

Gilbert Arenas is more of a hometown superstar than Portis...
Is Chris Cooley bigger than Arenas?
Jon Jansen?

Come on...

My actual list would be like this....

1. Santana Moss
2. Clinton Portis
3. Gilbert Arenas
4. Alexander Ovechkin

You could be right but I think the top 4 are all on the same level but more Skins fans in DC means either Moss or Portis wins. I say Portis would even though my personal opinion is Moss.

[arenasisgod]

Clinton is great.
but Gilbert is GOD

[sonofbutz]

Gil Arenas and Clinton Portis both have jumpstarted thier respective franchises and our DC sports atmosphere i smuch better through the aquisition of both.
I hope both teams keep making the right kind of personel moves..the Caron Butler pickup was key.....as well as the monumental Santana Moss Trade feels like we stole something
a true guilty pleasure.

[Spartacus87]

This isn't about if the Redskins are bigger or not...
Gilbert Arenas is more of a hometown superstar than Portis...
Is Chris Cooley bigger than Arenas?
Jon Jansen?
Come on... Of course Jansen and Cooley wouldn't be more popular than Arenas. And people keep posting things in this thread like "oh it's just homerism for the Redskins" and taking other pot shots at what they see as Redskins homerism, but it's not, don't be ridiculous. The question is who is the bigger star in sports in the D.C. area- Clinton Portis, or Gilbert Arenas. Both are superstars in their respective leagues and loved by the D.C. community. But the fact is the Redskins are the #1 team in the area by far, it's not even close, and the difference between someone like Cooley or Jansen is that they're not superstars in the NFL, Portis is, and that's why he gets the edge over Arenas. It may not be about Redskins vs Wizards, but the simple fact that the Redskins are massively more popular than the Wizards obviously gives Portis a bigger fanbase, and that's the core of the argument here, who is more popular, who's a bigger superstar, etc. No one has said anything bad about the Wizards or Arenas here, but the guy is NOT more popular than Portis. It doesn't matter if Portis talks about the U a lot, he's more widely known not just in the region but across the country, from his costumes, to his record breaking season last year, to his status as one of the top running backs in the NFC. And further proof will come next year when Portis rushes for an insane amount of yards under the new Al Saunders offense and resets the Redskins single season record again. The only way any of this changes is if Arenas and the Wizards win the NBA Championship this year or very soon, otherwise it's Portis. Until there's an actual, legit argument saying otherwise that the Wizards or Arenas are more popular than the Redskins (backed up with facts), not just in D.C. but across the country showing that Arenas has a larger fan base, than I honestly don't see how someone can argue otherwise simply based on the amount of exposure Portis has.

[freakinandpeakin]

This was my point. Too many posters in this thread have been confusing Portis vs. Arenas with the Wizards vs. Redskins, which it is not. By their skewed logic, Mike Sellers would be more popular than Arenas just because he's a Redskin. :rolleyes:

And by your logic Alexander Ovechkin is a bigger superstar than either Portis or Arenas.

Arenas is the fourth leading scorer in his league and doesn't get the recognition somebody of that caliber should from the commentators and fans (outside of Washington) of the NBA. Why isn't he mentioned in the MVP discussion? Seriously, why isn't Gil in the conversation, it is criminal.

Conversely, Ovechkin is the third leading scorer in his league and is widely considered one of the best players in the world by fans, commentators and players in his sport.

Why isn't Ovechkin the biggest superstar in DC, because the number of Caps fans in DC isn't large enough to garner that praise. Same goes for Arenas.

[JHair]

Portis is the man

[TheTotalPackage]

assuming that portis wins over arenas simply because there are more redskins fans than there are wizards fans is not logical.

the fans embrace the redskins as a WHOLE. there are 53 men on the redskins so portis has to share the spotlight with 52 others. this includes brunell, cooley, santana moss, sean taylor, still lavar...heck, lavar might still be bigger than portis is now.

you only get to see them perform on what's basically a battlefield; the violence on which you watch from afar. for the most part the only thing fans see is them while on the field wearing their helmets, which restricts their visibility. unless you're a die hard fan, you wouldn't know who portis was if he was just walking on the street in regular clothes. portis does a lot of funny skits on thursdays before games, but the ironic thing is that you probably wouldn't recognize him if he wasn't in costume.

on the other hand, there are only 13 wizards, so there are only 12 that gil has to share with. you get to see the action up close and personal, because you're RIGHT THERE. there are no helmets or visors that obscure his visibility to the fans, and he further endears himself to them by doing things like throwing his jersey into the stands after each game. if you see him walking down the street, you likely spot him right away i'm sorry, i'm the worlds biggest redskins fan, but gil's the man in this case.

[Spartacus87]

assuming that portis wins over arenas simply because there are more redskins fans than there are wizards fans is not logical.
the fans embrace the redskins as a WHOLE. there are 53 men on the redskins so portis has to share the spotlight with 52 others. this includes brunell, cooley, santana moss, sean taylor, still lavar...heck, lavar might still be bigger than portis is now.
you only get to see them perform on what's basically a battlefield; the violence on which you watch from afar. for the most part the only thing fans see is them while on the field wearing their helmets, which restricts their visibility. unless you're a die hard fan, you wouldn't know who portis was if he was just walking on the street in regular clothes. portis does a lot of funny skits on thursdays before games, but the ironic thing is that you probably wouldn't recognize him if he wasn't in costume.
on the other hand, there are only 13 wizards, so there are only 12 that gil has to share with. you get to see the action up close and personal, because you're RIGHT THERE. there are no helmets or visors that obscure his visibility to the fans, and he further endears himself to them by doing things like throwing his jersey into the stands after each game. if you see him walking down the street, you likely spot him right away i'm sorry, i'm the worlds biggest redskins fan, but gil's the man in this case. So because Portis wears a helmet on game day people wouldn't know who he is? Even though his face is all over the news and newspapers from press conferences, charity events (like visiting the White House), and pre/post-game interviews? That argument doesn't fly, football players are as a recognizable to sports fans as any other pro athlete. Walking down the street, there's no way, on average, that someone would recognize Gilbert Arenas over Clinton Portis, since Portis is all over the place because he's a Redskin and has far more media exposure than Arenas. That's why the argument that Portis is a bigger star because he's on the Redskins IS logical; the Skins get much more press and publicity than the Wizards do in a typical situation. Portis isn't just a regular Redskin either, he's a star across the entire NFL- he's always on all kinds of ESPN shows with other NFL stars.

[santana4prez]

I dont understand why so many people think Arenas is a bigger star in DC than Portis. More fans in DC care about the Skins than the Wizards so more people are going to say the bigger star is Portis. Right now the Skins have 2 stars on their team and they are Santana Moss and Clinton Portis the Wizards have 1 in Arenas. Lets say Portis and Moss arent on the Skins then I think Arenas wins easily. Its just insane when fans think that between 2 stars more fans are going to choose a Wizard over a Skin. If you polled most Washington DC sports fans they would rather the Skins make the playoffs over the Wizards winning a title. Ill tell you why , no fans during football season give a rats ass about the Wizards because its a football town and fans care about who the Skins are going up against each week rather than the Wizards. That said do you really think more DC fans think Arenas is bigger than Portis the answer is no because Arenas cant beat the Cowboys ,or score a game winning TD ,or help win a Super Bowl which is the only think DC fans truly care about the most. I am a Wizard fan as well as a Redskin fan but cmon do you really think Arenas is more of a star? Maybe Jordan when he first came to DC may be a bigger star but besides that it is hard to say a Wizard star is more popular than a Redskins star.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

I dont understand why so many people think Arenas is a bigger star in DC than Portis. More fans in DC care about the Skins than the Wizards so more people are going to say the bigger star is Portis. Right now the Skins have 2 stars on their team and they are Santana Moss and Clinton Portis the Wizards have 1 in Arenas. Lets say Portis and Moss arent on the Skins then I think Arenas wins easily. Its just insane when fans think that between 2 stars more fans are going to choose a Wizard over a Skin. If you polled most Washington DC sports fans they would rather the Skins make the playoffs over the Wizards winning a title. Ill tell you why , no fans during football season give a rats ass about the Wizards because its a football town and fans care about who the Skins are going up against each week rather than the Wizards. That said do you really think more DC fans think Arenas is bigger than Portis the answer is no because Arenas cant beat the Cowboys ,or score a game winning TD ,or help win a Super Bowl which is the only think DC fans truly care about the most. I am a Wizard fan as well as a Redskin fan but cmon do you really think Arenas is more of a star? Maybe Jordan when he first came to DC may be a bigger star but besides that it is hard to say a Wizard star is more popular than a Redskins star.

We've explained this to you 1,000,000 times already...
And I'd MUCH rather have the Wizards win a title than the Redskins just make the playoffs... :doh:

[TheDirtbags]

they are both embraced by this city

WE LOVE THEM BOTH!!!

[LiveStrongSkins]

I dont understand why so many people think Arenas is a bigger star in DC than Portis. More fans in DC care about the Skins than the Wizards so more people are going to say the bigger star is Portis. Right now the Skins have 2 stars on their team and they are Santana Moss and Clinton Portis the Wizards have 1 in Arenas. Lets say Portis and Moss arent on the Skins then I think Arenas wins easily. Its just insane when fans think that between 2 stars more fans are going to choose a Wizard over a Skin. If you polled most Washington DC sports fans they would rather the Skins make the playoffs over the Wizards winning a title. Ill tell you why , no fans during football season give a rats ass about the Wizards because its a football town and fans care about who the Skins are going up against each week rather than the Wizards. That said do you really think more DC fans think Arenas is bigger than Portis the answer is no because Arenas cant beat the Cowboys ,or score a game winning TD ,or help win a Super Bowl which is the only think DC fans truly care about the most. I am a Wizard fan as well as a Redskin fan but cmon do you really think Arenas is more of a star? Maybe Jordan when he first came to DC may be a bigger star but besides that it is hard to say a Wizard star is more popular than a Redskins star.

You dont really have any room to talk on this subject because you are not in the DC area. The question of this thread is who is the bigger star in the DC area. Maybe Portis wins in a landslide down there in Norfolk, but not up here in DC where Arenas is marketed. When will you get it through your head that YES the Redskins are more popular as a whole and no one is saying the Wizards are bigger than the Skins. Its two different sports. Portis is heavily dependant on an O-line. In basketball, Arenas carries the load himself therefore he is glorified more as an individual. Plus he lives in and promotes the DC area. He carries a mediocre team on his back and is one of the top ten players in the NBA. Portis doesnt carry the Redskins. He is very important to the Redskins but to say he is the bigger star because this is a "football" area is stupid.

[Skins24]

It's pretty close, but I'm going to give Portis the edge as football is more popular than basketball...

[waterwagen]

Moss is a bigger star than Portis - and he gets way more publicity in the national media.

[ouvan59]

You dont really have any room to talk on this subject because you are not in the DC area. The question of this thread is who is the bigger star in the DC area. Maybe Portis wins in a landslide down there in Norfolk, but not up here in DC where Arenas is marketed. When will you get it through your head that YES the Redskins are more popular as a whole and no one is saying the Wizards are bigger than the Skins. Its two different sports. Portis is heavily dependant on an O-line. In basketball, Arenas carries the load himself therefore he is glorified more as an individual. Plus he lives in and promotes the DC area. He carries a mediocre team on his back and is one of the top ten players in the NBA. Portis doesnt carry the Redskins. He is very important to the Redskins but to say he is the bigger star because this is a "football" area is stupid.

I live in the DC area. Arenas is a better player in his sport than Portis but he is not a bigger star in this area. When was the last time you saw an interview with Gilbert Arenas in the offseason? It isn't just about the talent. It's talent and personality and Clinton Portis has a much bigger personna than Gilbert Arenas. Lavar Arrington was never close to Gilbert Arenas in terms of his actual standing in the game but he was and probably still is a much bigger star in this area because of his star aura.

[onedrop]

more people would show up to....

"come to wherever and meet whoever from the Washington Redskins"

than the wizards. case closed.

[Gamebreaker]

You dont really have any room to talk on this subject because you are not in the DC area. The question of this thread is who is the bigger star in the DC area. Maybe Portis wins in a landslide down there in Norfolk, but not up here in DC where Arenas is marketed. When will you get it through your head that YES the Redskins are more popular as a whole and no one is saying the Wizards are bigger than the Skins. Its two different sports. Portis is heavily dependant on an O-line. In basketball, Arenas carries the load himself therefore he is glorified more as an individual. Plus he lives in and promotes the DC area. He carries a mediocre team on his back and is one of the top ten players in the NBA. Portis doesnt carry the Redskins. He is very important to the Redskins but to say he is the bigger star because this is a "football" area is stupid.

He's never going to get it. I've already given up to trying to explain this point to him. :doh:

[santana4prez]

He's never going to get it. I've already given up to trying to explain this point to him. :doh:

If you really think im changing my opinion because of what you say then you have problems. Also assuming your right when a) the poll question is Portis in a landslide means your talking in this thread is easily for the minority and b) if their are 2 stars of equal caliber most DC fans will take the Redskin. If you want people in DC and especially on this board to agree with you then maybe you should go back to your Wizard board where people always agree with you. And like I said to LiveStronSkins any poster knocking a guys location and age is really childish when the poster is fans of both teams. Trust me though everyone knows DC is a football town not just people in the DC area. This is it for me in this thread the only people who are left are Wizard fans trying to back their statements because thay have already lost.


You dont really have any room to talk on this subject because you are not in the DC area. The question of this thread is who is the bigger star in the DC area. Maybe Portis wins in a landslide down there in Norfolk, but not up here in DC where Arenas is marketed. When will you get it through your head that YES the Redskins are more popular as a whole and no one is saying the Wizards are bigger than the Skins. Its two different sports. Portis is heavily dependant on an O-line. In basketball, Arenas carries the load himself therefore he is glorified more as an individual. Plus he lives in and promotes the DC area. He carries a mediocre team on his back and is one of the top ten players in the NBA. Portis doesnt carry the Redskins. He is very important to the Redskins but to say he is the bigger star because this is a "football" area is stupid.

So your right because your from Maryland and im from Norfolk, Virginia. If thats your arguement then you have no common sense. EVERYONE KNOWS DC IS A FOOTBALL TOWN!!! I also have been there numerous times and known people who live their so dont tell me something else. Maybe Arenas is a bigger star than Portis but in my opinion I dont think so. To say though that i shoukdnt be posting because im from Norfolk is just a last ditch attempt to make people who voted for Portis look wrong. In Norfolk their are newspaper machines for Washington area papers and everyone in Virginia gets Comcast Sportsnet Dont get me wrong but Redskins coverage is easily bigger than the Wizards when their teams are playing. I wonder why? It really dont matter where your from because if you are anywhere in the area of North Carolina to Pennsylvania you have knowledge about the DC area and anyone who watches all the DC teams also knows a little something about their history. You make it seem like anyone who isnt in Washington DC cant be a true fan then? If you live in DC and dont realize that it is a Redskin town then you are either really stupid or just think because you believe something else that it is true. If I wasnt a Wizards fan your arguement may have made sense but anyone in this thread attacking anyones location or age just dosent have the facts to back up their debate.

This is the last I will be posting in this thread because it is just so childish and really funny. No way is DC a Basketball town it is a football town. To get back to the thread though I say Portis but hey you could be right thay are both stars. I still think more Redskin fans then Wizard fans would make the outcome swing in Portis's favor. If it was somebody who was bigger like Jordan you could give the nod to him but as long as their are stars on about the same level as Portis and Arenas DC will always take the Redskin.

OH nice way to change your location on your user info to make your point thats classic. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[freakinandpeakin]

Top celebrity internet searches for the month of April:
http://www.prweb.com/releases/2006/5/prweb379419.htm


(PRWEB) May 1, 2006 -- Celebopedia ( http://www.celebopedia.com (http://www.celebopedia.com/) ), the Internet's leading celebrity encyclopedia, announced today the 25 most searched for celebrities for the month of April 2006. The numbers reflect the amount of interest their entries in the celebrity encyclopedia earned in the month (last month's ranking in parenthesis).

* * * * * * *

New entries on Celebopedia this month include Ashley Leggat, Chris Pine, Elena Dementieva, Elizabeth Rodriguez, Maggie Q, Mario Williams, Rosie O'Donnell, Barbara Mori, Briana Hicks, Britt Koth, Emily Osment, Jessica Cirio, Jo O'Meara, Keyshia Cole, Lisa Ray, Missy Peregrym, Nicki Aycox, Rick Schroder, Tarah Paige, Tatyana Ali, Alexander Ovechkin, Cassie Steele, Daniel Powter, Jasmine Dustin, Lara Bingle, Megyn Kendall, Nora Zehetner, Sonia Uribe, Vincent Lecavalier, Claudia Jordan, Emma Griffiths, Erin Cahill, Genevieve Gorder, Jonathan Antin, Kirsten Kemp, Raoul Bova, Rosanna Arquette, Sonia Vera, Tamera Mowry, Tori Spelling, Vendela Kirsebom, Tia Mowry, T.I. and Aubrie Lemon.

[Skins24]

Doesn't mean anything.
Ovec became the first rookie to (whatver) in April, that's why his searches were up. Overall Portis and Arenas are still more popular.

[freakinandpeakin]

Doesn't mean anything.
Ovec became the first rookie to (whatver) in April, that's why his searches were up. Overall Portis and Arenas are still more popular.

In the DC area no doubt. Worldwide...I think is a different issue.

[Mooka]

In the DC area no doubt. Worldwide...I think is a different issue. I dunno, I heard Gilbert is the hot **** in Russia.

[who else?]

um....Alan Webb.

[canesluver]

I didn't have a chance to read through all 9 pages of the "Arenas-Portis" issue, but all I can say is how happy I am, living in DC and having Portis, Arenas, Ovechkin, and Adu in the same time span. When I move home to South Carolina in the next year, I feel fortunate to have attended games that all these outstanding players have played in. What a treat!!

[Skins11]

Holy moly. This has probably been said, but, can't we just love both of them and be happy, people?!?!

I'm glad we have them instead of Trung Canidate and Mitch Richmond. :laugh:

[CPstretch]

um....Alan Webb.

hell yea track

[santanaistheman]

um....Alan Webb.


yeah go webb! By the way he is a huge skins fan

[CPstretch]

yeah i saw webb at training camp in 2004 before he went off to athens for the olympics. dude is fasssst

[MLSKINS]

DC is a basketba city, no I am not talking about pro sports, I am talking about as far as what we play. In the summer time you don't see us playing basketball you see us up the farms in the tournaments. Just look at the High Schools. People around here really don't care about that until the turkey bowl. But I went to a game up HD Woodson in December and that joint was packed. We all know that Portis is the most popular but I just want yah to know what kind if city it is.

[CPstretch]

well it is easier to play basketball with your friends than playing tackle football

[mookie0720]

Worldwide: Alexander Ovechkin. In DC: Portis.

Wow.

Board IQ continues to drop.

[Res_Novae]

Better question--

Who's stranger?

[santana4prez]

DC is a basketba city, no I am not talking about pro sports, I am talking about as far as what we play. In the summer time you don't see us playing basketball you see us up the farms in the tournaments. Just look at the High Schools. People around here really don't care about that until the turkey bowl. But I went to a game up HD Woodson in December and that joint was packed. We all know that Portis is the most popular but I just want yah to know what kind if city it is.

I cant believe this thread keeps coming back to live like a bad movie.

This thread should be renamed Return of the Living Thread

DC is a Basketball Town????:laugh:

BREAKING NEWS........ DC is a Football Town always has and always will. It dosent take a guy from DC to figure that out.

[Doctorfro]

Santana Moss. End of Discussion.

[Doctorfro]

I cant believe this thread keeps coming back to live like a bad movie.



http://kevinremde.members.winisp.net/images/beating_2Da_2Ddead_2Dhorse.gif

[freakinandpeakin]

Wow.

Board IQ continues to drop.

You think Clinton Portis is more well known worldwide than Alexander Ovechkin?!?!?!! :doh:

Dude, outside of the United States and maybe Canada, a handful of people konw who Clinton Portis is. Ovechkin is not as widely known in the US, but is more known in Canada than Portis. He is more well known in Russia, Eastern Europe, Scandanavia and most likely Western Europe as compared to Portis.

That isn't hating on Clinton, that is a fact. Guess what, David Beckham is more widely known worldwide than both of them put together, because soccer is played throughout the entire world. Even though Portis is better known in DC than Beckham is.

Your right, you did drop the IQ on this board. :gus:

[Boss Hogg]

Please abort this God for saken thread.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

2 years ago Lavar would have won the pole in a landslide

Portis needs to keep it up another year at the least to clearly be a bigger superstar