Jason Campbell with a year under his belt or...

[Sunburn]

your choice of Leinart, Young, and Cutler thrown in immediately?

Or do you think Campbell is better no matter what?

[H-O-G]

You're question isn't logical, if we had the #3 pick in the draft I would understand this question a little better. :)

[flexxskins]

Your question is reflecting your age. :)

[W. Unseld]

After listening to Merle Hodge rip into Leinhart (can't throw accurately past 15 yards--on a consistent basis and Vince Young ( i)only had to make one read in college--from the shotgun ii)poor mechanics iii)not all that accurate) I'm feeling better about the Campbell pick. Most everything Gibbs and Co. has done has proven worth while--a year or two down the road. The Mediots can't think long term, which is one reason why the Skins always get attacked when they make a move.

The past two drafts make the Campbell move, the Portis move and Brunell move look that much better.

[Sunburn]

It's not that hard of a question. Would you rather have Campbell or Cutler/Leinart/Young? I don't think it's stupid. We compare players all the time.

[Peregrine]

Thats a no brainer. A sophmore QB who had a year watching on the sidelines, almost no matter WHAT the circumstances, will always perform better than a rookie who starts from Day1. There is only one exception to this, and this is Rothlisberger. Then again, as one pundit pounted out, all he had to do was not fumble the snap.

[SaltySpice1028]

Pretty much impossible to do any comparison because we haven't seen JC play since August against third & fourth stringers and have never seen any of this year's QB's play at all in the NFL. However, I do like Campbell comparing him to the QB's from last year's draft even more, though obviously the jury is still out on all three first rounders (Alex Smith, Aaron Rodgers, & JC).

[Mr. Grundle]

Maybe I'm being a homer here, but Campbell looks like the safest choice of all of them. Where these 3 other QB's have noted flaws - Leinart's arm strength, Young's mechanics and accuracy, and Cutler not having proven anything against any significant competition - Campbell has none of these problems. He has a strong arm. He is accurate. He throws a pretty ball. He is athletic and can run if necessary, but is a pure pocket passer. He proved himself against big-time competition.

I'm still trying to figure out why he wasn't more highly touted last year. Where are the weaknesses? If people wanna say he only had one good season or that the Auburn RB's carried the team, fine....but I'm not buying it.

I think Joe Gibbs is in position to look like a genius one more time.

[Sunburn]

Of course you like comparing him to those two more. That's easy. Alex Smith stunk it up hardcore and Aaron Rodgers is suposedly looking really unimpressive in camp with Campbell being on a team with a chance at the Super Bowl.

It shouldn't be that hard to compare. All 4 of the guys mentioned haven't played a down in the NFL. They have that in common.

[Fifty Gut]

this is another draft of overhyped QBs

I agree with Merrill Hodge, the three QBs are 2nd round draft picks at best

in other words, I'd take Campbell

[Warhead36]

Campbell's main weakness was that he had three poor years up until his fourth year.

Lot of people forget, though, that Campbell had a different O-Coord every year he was in College.

They also say he was overrated because he had two All-American RBs.

Though somehow who you're handing off to affects how you throw the ball...Whatever.

[funguy1286]

Maybe I'm being a homer here, but Campbell looks like the safest choice of all of them. Where these 3 other QB's have noted flaws - Leinart's arm strength, Young's mechanics and accuracy, and Cutler not having proven anything against any significant competition - Campbell has none of these problems. He has a strong arm. He is accurate. He throws a pretty ball. He is athletic and can run if necessary, but is a pure pocket passer. He proved himself against big-time competition.

I'm still trying to figure out why he wasn't more highly touted last year. Where are the weaknesses? If people wanna say he only had one good season or that the Auburn RB's carried the team, fine....but I'm not buying it.

I think Joe Gibbs is in position to look like a genius one more time.


As much as I do not like Young, how can you say he is not accurate? Have you ever watched the guy? Young completed 65% of his passes at Texas. A lot of analysts call Vince Young "An accurate Michael Vick". The problem with Vince Young is not his accuracy it is his throwing motion, the shotgun offense he used at UT, and his decision making but NOT his accuracy.

Another point you made that makes no sense is that Cutler didnt play against any significant competition. Do you know what conference Vanderbilt plays in? In case you don't, its the SEC, arguably the best football conference in America. I guess teams like Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, LSU, and Auburn arent significant competition.:doh::rolleyes: Not only did Cutler play FIERCE competition, he did it without the caliber of players that those other SEC teams had.

[Lombardi's_kid_brother]

If the four of them were lined up against the wall, and I could choose one for my QB of the future, I choose Leinart and never look back. Unless we are talking Danny Weurfell level arm strength, he's got to the most complete/most seasoned QB out of college since Manning.

[Mr. Grundle]

As much as I do not like Young, how can you say he is not accurate? Have you ever watched the guy? Young completed 65% of his passes at Texas. A lot of analysts call Vince Young "An accurate Michael Vick". The problem with Vince Young is not his accuracy it is his throwing motion, the shotgun offense he used at UT, and his decision making but NOT his accuracy.

Another point you made that makes no sense is that Cutler didnt play against any significant competition. Do you know what conference Vanderbilt plays in? In case you don't, its the SEC, arguably the best football conference in America. I guess teams like Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, LSU, and Auburn arent significant competition.:doh::rolleyes: Not only did Cutler play FIERCE competition, he did it without the caliber of players that those other SEC teams had.

My mistake. I'm just spewing out things I've heard in the media, which is probably a bad idea.

Ahhh I see....Cutler was just on a terrible team, but played in a good conference.

And negatives I'm reading on Young are his low release point, decision-making, and not as accurated as he could be on some throws.

[skinfan09]

you can just look at it like i do.....we dont NOT have a 1st pick.....our 1st round pick is jason campbell with 1 year under his belt. so in my way of thinking we have a 1st-2nd-5th-6th-6th-7th-7th

[talk show host]

You're question isn't logical, if we had the #3 pick in the draft I would understand this question a little better. :)

Look at his profile, he's only 1 year old. I'll answer his question, though, but asking another question.

If you could chose, would you rather have payton manning or "tom collins"worth?

[clathel]

you can just look at it like i do.....we dont NOT have a 1st pick.....our 1st round pick is jason campbell with 1 year under his belt. so in my way of thinking we have a 1st-2nd-5th-6th-6th-7th-7th
I agree....Jason is a great 1st rd pick for us but not 2 years in a row.
If I could have Jason's pick back and trade it with our first this year for Leinart I would in a heartbeat.
Leinart will be a better QB than JC and will be essentially the third Manning to play right now....all talent and few drawbacks and has a field general ability only matched by Peyton
Plus he can do something Peyton and McNabb cant.... Perform in big games.

P.S. That sig worries me.....Pentacles, even ones made with hearts, are bad symbols.

[BleedBNG]

your choice of Leinart, Young, and Cutler thrown in immediately?

Or do you think Campbell is better no matter what?
I'll stick with Campbell, although I think Young will be a force somewhere.
I know he's fractured practically every bone in his body, but I have a feeling (if he gets adequate protection) that Brodie Coyle is gonna be pretty good in the NFL. The Cardinals MIGHT pick him up.

[Davethegolfguy]

Once again, because he actually is a Redskin, I'll take Campbell.

[LT Smash]

Your question is reflecting your age. :)
nice. hes wise beyond his years

[bobzmuda]

I agree....Jason is a great 1st rd pick for us but not 2 years in a row.
If I could have Jason's pick back and trade it with our first this year for Leinart I would in a heartbeat.

What are you talking about? The Redskins traded a 2005 3rd rounder and the 2006 1st and 4th for Campbell. The main value for the Campbell pick was this year's first. The Redskins didn't have 2 firsts this year.



Leinart will be a better QB than JC and will be essentially the third Manning to play right now....all talent and few drawbacks and has a field general ability only matched by Peyton
Plus he can do something Peyton and McNabb cant.... Perform in big games.

I'll say it again. The Redskins moved up for Campbell because the coaching staff thought he was the ideal QB for their system and team: good leader, strong arm, extremely accurate, and good mobility. Leinart might be better at reading defenses right now, but he has a marginal arm and is about as mobile as Patrick Ramsey.

[santana4prez]

It's not that hard of a question. Would you rather have Campbell or Cutler/Leinart/Young? I don't think it's stupid. We compare players all the time.

Id rather have Campbell because Gibbs saw somthing in him and I believe in Joe Gibbs.

That said Brunell should start at least this season before Campbell comes in.:helmet:

[heatman28]

your choice of Leinart, Young, and Cutler thrown in immediately?

Or do you think Campbell is better no matter what?

Your question is a no-brainer...Campbell!

[RedzoneHunter]

I'm so glad we got Campbell last year, and even more so that he already has a year experience under his belt. And even if you put the four of them together in the same draft, I do believe that Campbell will prove to be the more superior QB. Time will tell.

[Section106]

I don't understand the premise of this thread. By "immediately" are you saying that you'd throw Brunell to the wolves? Why do so many threads pop up dissing our starting QB, who actually got us into the playoffs for the first time in forever? Get real.


JC is an unknown quantity at this point. The other QBs in the draft are the same. You might as well compare the 2020 'Skins to the 2020 Cowgirlz.....

[#98QBKiller]

Campbell, Leinart, Young, Cutler in that order. I feel like Campbell has the edge right now b/c of his experience learning from coaches and players.

[Spartacus87]

I don't understand the premise of this thread. By "immediately" are you saying that you'd throw Brunell to the wolves? Why do so many threads pop up dissing our starting QB, who actually got us into the playoffs for the first time in forever? Get real.
JC is an unknown quantity at this point. The other QBs in the draft are the same. You might as well compare the 2020 'Skins to the 2020 Cowgirlz..... Relax a little man. The guy was just asking our opinions on the QB we drafted last year compared to the QB's that will be drafted highly this year, nothing negative about Brunell in there. I would take Campbell at this point- like others have said, Gibbs saw something in him he seriously liked (a quick side note: I sometimes think it's funny how we all have such blind faith in Gibbs but I'll readily admit and be proud of it, if Gibbs called me and told me to get drunk and go skydiving I'd probably strongly consider it despite the danger and my awful fear of heights), and Campbell has a year in the system under his belt to watch the game from the sidelines and bond with his teammates, Leinart/Young/etc. don't have any of that to benefit them, with the exception of Leinart maybe being familiar with Norm Chow if he heads to the Titans.

[Section106]

Relax a little man. The guy was just asking our opinions on the QB we drafted last year compared to the QB's that will be drafted highly this year, nothing negative about Brunell in there. I would take Campbell at this point- like others have said, Gibbs saw something in him he seriously liked (a quick side note: I sometimes think it's funny how we all have such blind faith in Gibbs but I'll readily admit and be proud of it, if Gibbs called me and told me to get drunk and go skydiving I'd probably strongly consider it despite the danger and my awful fear of heights), and Campbell has a year in the system under his belt to watch the game from the sidelines and bond with his teammates, Leinart/Young/etc. don't have any of that to benefit them, with the exception of Leinart maybe being familiar with Norm Chow if he heads to the Titans.


The problem I have with this thread is the tense of the original question. With a year under Campbell's belt or the other QBs "thrown in immediately" says that Brunell will not be the starter and shouldn't even be considered as the starter. That's BS.

Brunell has been attacked on here for his religon, his age, his injury (that he played through), etc... The man got us to the second round playoffs which we would've won if our roster wasn't banged-up. This is the guy that threw those passes to Moss that beat Dallas for the first time in ten years. Show some respect.

Are we really that ungrateful here to have thread after thread praising Campbell and disrespecting Brunell when Campbell has won a total of zero games for us. Are you really saying a QB controversy is a good thing and you'd like to engender it on these boards? People complain about repetitious threads when they should really be complaining about the quality of the posters on this site. I know that that isn't a popular thought and I'm sure to get flamed but whatever.

[Brooklynskinsfan]

campbell has as much potential as anybody and has none of their weaknesses

[TomK]

I don't think you can really say who will be better at this point since none played at the NFL level yet. The USC system is a pro-style offense so Leinhart could be ready. Don't forget he did have 2 pretty good running backs to get the ball too just like Campbell so if you are going to knock JC about that you have to do the same to Leinhart. I'm not sold on Young, seems like a great athlete but not a QB. Never saw Cutler play but hear he can make all the throws.

[Redskin44]

I like campbell becasue he's a redskin. Plus he had a different offensive system every year in college. He is a smart, adaptable, big, strong, accurate player. We knew he would take at least 2-years to develop . . . but when Vinny C. says he's a super star . . and Gibbs sings his praises . . I would rather have Campbell.

[Loxley]

Campbell, on paper from what ive read hes had just as good reports as these other guys, and hes also got a years experience. No question, hes my pick.

[galentjm]

Campbell's main weakness was that he had three poor years up until his fourth year.

Lot of people forget, though, that Campbell had a different O-Coord every year he was in College.

They also say he was overrated because he had two All-American RBs.

Though somehow who you're handing off to affects how you throw the ball...Whatever.

While his stats prior to the 2004 season were far from astonishing I wouldn't classify those years as being bad. He never completed less than 60% of his passes and never threw more interceptions than touchdowns. All while competing in one of the toughest (if not THE toughest) football conferences in the country.

Campbell's play prior to 2004 was inconsistent, due largely in part to the ever changing offensive schemes thrown at him.

[Jethrodsp]

I would take Leinart, but am more than happy having JC on the roster even though we have NO IDEA how good he will be on Sundays.

[tizzod]

I would take Leinart, but am more than happy having JC on the roster even though we have NO IDEA how good he will be on Sundays.

Same with Leinart. At least JC has had a year to get at least a little familiar.

[Sunburn]

I don't understand the premise of this thread. By "immediately" are you saying that you'd throw Brunell to the wolves?

No, Brunell has nothing to do with this. It's just a "what if" question. Chill.

[Earthcat]

Three poor years? I watched every game, he matured as a senior, certainly.
2001 Freshman (Shared position with Daniel Cobb) 63.1% 4TD/5INT 7.3y/a team 7-5
2002 Soph (Shared position with Daniel Cobb) 63.1% 11TD/5INT 8.2y/a team 9-3
2003 Junior 61.8% 10/8 7.7 team 9-3
2004 Senior 69.6% 19/7 10.0 team 13-0
Only bowl loss was as a freshman.
I do not see the poor years here, he matured and won while he was maturing.