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redskins4life234
May-17th-2006, 06:46 PM
New Lost starting in a little over an Hour. Should be a good one.
Sayid Knows something about Michael it seems, and something is gonna happen at the camp. We'll see.

rictus58
May-17th-2006, 06:49 PM
The producer said that the season finale will answer a lot of questions.

redskins4life234
May-17th-2006, 06:52 PM
Yeah I hard that. Desamond is suppose to come back for everyone who wants him to finally come bacl. Should be interesting.

visionary
May-17th-2006, 07:49 PM
How many episodes are left this season?

visionary
May-17th-2006, 08:03 PM
OMG!

WTF?


I knew he was going to do something, but wow! Michael is nuts...LOL

How does he have any credability now?
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whoops, that was from before...still Michael is crazy... :laugh:

turtle
May-17th-2006, 08:06 PM
is tonight the finale?

DButz65
May-17th-2006, 08:14 PM
is tonight the finale?


Next Week is

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 08:17 PM
michael has now trumped all the 24 douche bags and has claimed the crown of king douche bag

vinva
May-17th-2006, 08:18 PM
I missed what Eko was saying to Michael about the boy and the dog. Can anyone help me out?

turtle
May-17th-2006, 08:38 PM
where did the others come from? were they on the plane as well?

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 08:47 PM
I missed what Eko was saying to Michael about the boy and the dog. Can anyone help me out?

he said the boy clubbed a dog to death for biting his baby sister, and that the boy wasnt seeking forgiveness but was affraid the dog would be waiting in hell for him.

meaning the boy had already absolved himself of the act, but knew the dog will still get its due. Much like mike rationalizing killing those two women and selling out his friends for his kids, he thinks its ok cause its for his son.

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 08:52 PM
the others arent human, or atleast the leaders arent

turtle
May-17th-2006, 08:52 PM
"the others are pretending". What does that mean?

turtle
May-17th-2006, 08:53 PM
whats the room ms clue told walt about? and taking tests?

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 08:57 PM
mike is a douche bag and stupid, he wanted the boat and that boat cant cross an ocean. it would run out of fuel and just drift till they died of starvation. If he was a mariner maybe just maybe he could get into a shipping lane and maybe just maybe be spotted.

its douchly to be a traitor, but sprinkling on stupid on top of all that makes you a bloody douche.

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 09:01 PM
sawyer had been winning the battle of my favorite lostie this episode, but at the end sayeed reminded me why hes in the top four and came back even with sawyer. ecko dropped to fourth and locke to third.

G-Town
May-17th-2006, 09:02 PM
mike is a douche bag and stupid, he wanted the boat and that boat cant cross an ocean. it would run out of fuel and just drift till they died of starvation. If he was a mariner maybe just maybe he could get into a shipping lane and maybe just maybe be spotted.

its douchly to be a traitor, but sprinkling on stupid on top of all that makes you a bloody douche.


So Michael is one of your favorites on the show? j/k :cheers:

G-Town
May-17th-2006, 09:03 PM
Looks like Desmonds back

rincewind
May-17th-2006, 09:08 PM
Who would've thought they'd have a filler episode so close to the end of the season. Meh...

vinva
May-17th-2006, 09:09 PM
the others arent human, or atleast the leaders arent

first time i've heard that theory

Mr. S
May-17th-2006, 09:10 PM
the boat at the end definitely added a nice twist to the episode.

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 09:10 PM
first time i've heard that theory

Its wild grab, but Im wondering if the leaders of the other are like the smoke. able to assume forms.

PokerPacker
May-17th-2006, 09:11 PM
anyone go to the new website yet?

drums and skins
May-17th-2006, 09:11 PM
This episode sucked.

Oh well, I guess the hype is okay if next week is spectacular like its supposed to be...

The boat thing looks interesting... I have a feeling thats "the boat" that Michael bargained for.

P.S . - Those websites are nothing but advertisements. Don't buy into it. The sublymonal was for Sprite.

This one is for Jeep.

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 09:12 PM
dude, if your a lost fan how could you say this episode sucked?!?! so much was revealed and so much was presented for speculation. it was a great episode.

rincewind
May-17th-2006, 09:14 PM
dude, if your a lost fan how could you say this episode sucked?!?! so much was revealed and so much was presented for speculation. it was a great episode.



Sorry, seemed like filler to me. Yeah some stuff was revealed; but everything that was revealed could have been revealed in 10 minutes instead of an hour. Again - meh....

Mr. Nostril
May-17th-2006, 09:17 PM
I agree. Definitely a filler episode. They showed us what happened to Michael while he was gone, but it was exactly what everyone predicted.

And how about seeing Walt again. Holy growth spurt Batman!

PokerPacker
May-17th-2006, 09:22 PM
this episode wasn't filler, it really built up next weeks episode. you can tell that its gonna be great. what is sayid gonna do? what's gonna happen with walt and michael?

rincewind
May-17th-2006, 09:26 PM
I will say that the most interesting thing to come out of this episode for me was Walt saying "they test us" and Ms. Clue saying "do you want me to send you back to 'the room'?"




Also - what's up with her name being Ms. Clue????

redskins4life234
May-17th-2006, 09:26 PM
The new site isnt working for me..

Anyways the boat I think is Desamond as I heard hes coming back for the Finale, and he did get to the island through a race around the world, he isnt a true Dharma. Michael is an idiot and is gonna get cought, they are gonna have a big shootout it seems too.
Next week is 2x23 and 2x24 (2 shows in 2 hours) I cant wait for next week, should be awesome, and we find out what happens when button isnt pushed. And from the preview if I saw currectly, it looks like the hatch blows up...
but we'll see. Too bad we have to wait all summer for Season 3.

PokerPacker
May-17th-2006, 09:29 PM
did anyone else catch ms. clue's question about walt along the lines of "does walt ever appear somewhere he shouldn't be?" i thought that was kinda odd considering that's what happened leading up to shannon's death.

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 09:33 PM
this episode wasn't filler, it really built up next weeks episode. you can tell that its gonna be great. what is sayid gonna do? what's gonna happen with walt and michael?

ok I need to learn my muslim names, your right it is Sayid. I thought the episode was one of the betters of the season, we finally saw the others camp(filler material to some), walt was able to chirp a few clues to piss mrs. clue off (more filler material to some), we saw behind the scenes of the zeke confrontation (more filler to some), and a whole new what if comes floating to shore with the boat.

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 09:34 PM
did anyone else catch ms. clue's question about walt along the lines of "does walt ever appear somewhere he shouldn't be?" i thought that was kinda odd considering that's what happened leading up to shannon's death.

not really odd, remember he kept appearing to the hotty who got shot.

TK
May-17th-2006, 09:35 PM
the others arent human, or atleast the leaders arent
Alright. You were right about the torches, and there may be something to this as well. Mailnly due to the questions Ms. Clue asked Michael about Walt appearing in a place where he wasn't suspossed to be at.

vinva
May-17th-2006, 09:36 PM
Its wild grab, but Im wondering if the leaders of the other are like the smoke. able to assume forms.

I really think that the leaders of the others work for hanso.

redskins4life234
May-17th-2006, 09:41 PM
Yeah the Walt appearing in spots thing cought ym attention about how Shannon saw him multable times before she died. I also wonder what the blood was for.. Maybe same bloodline means michael has some special ability he doesnt know of his self?
Cant wait for next week.

MSJHWT
May-17th-2006, 09:49 PM
GREAT episode! Loved it!

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 10:07 PM
Alright. You were right about the torches, and there may be something to this as well. Mailnly due to the questions Ms. Clue asked Michael about Walt appearing in a place where he wasn't suspossed to be at.

Thanks for the acknowledgement on the torches. What you point about Ms.Clue is what made me think about it.

Now to go out even further into crazy land, I dont think walt is human. Mike has no idea about walt. walt could have died at any time till he saw him again. His wife and walts mother was rich and powerfull, and for all we know could have been involved with the hanso madness.

Perhaps hes a recreation with the smoke technology. If he some kind of nanotech or other kind of polymorphing zippy arround technology he would most likely would emit a powerfull electromagnetic field one that might f with the flight of birds.

if your stocked up on crazy, dont call my extension.

Mr. S
May-17th-2006, 10:30 PM
did anyone else catch ms. clue's question about walt along the lines of "does walt ever appear somewhere he shouldn't be?" i thought that was kinda odd considering that's what happened leading up to shannon's death.

other than Shannon's death, he hasn't shown up randomly. Maybe Michael saw him around back in the real world and didnt want to acknowledge it. Also, he was coloring a bird or something, and then his mom got ill while a real bird was dead outside. There was also the polar bear he was coloring when a real one appeared.

I think the leaders of the Others worked for Dharma, they are still doing tests and whatever.

dreamingwolf
May-17th-2006, 11:05 PM
other than Shannon's death, he hasn't shown up randomly. Maybe Michael saw him around back in the real world and didnt want to acknowledge it. Also, he was coloring a bird or something, and then his mom got ill while a real bird was dead outside. There was also the polar bear he was coloring when a real one appeared.

I think the leaders of the Others worked for Dharma, they are still doing tests and whatever.

as to the polar bear, that wasnt a coloring book it was a comic book in spanish.

Skinned
May-17th-2006, 11:33 PM
I liked how they filled in the blanks and revealed Michael's motives.

***Also, I was reading the Wall St Journal today and there was an article stating, as I understood it, that the Producers have heard all the negativity about all the repeats and breaks. So they said that next season there will be 7 episodes to start the season, a break till the end of the year to introduce a new show, and then all new episodes after the new year. ***

visionary
May-17th-2006, 11:45 PM
I will say that the most interesting thing to come out of this episode for me was Walt saying "they test us" and Ms. Clue saying "do you want me to send you back to 'the room'?"




Also - what's up with her name being Ms. Clue????

Also I thought the leader was supposed to be a "he" as Ethan had said previously.

But I liked the episode, even though it was a bit slow at times. Still the whole Others camp was pretty cool and so was finding out more about Alex and meeting Clue. And actually there was a lot of little things going on back at the survivors camp that were pretty interesting. Nice to see Sawyer and Sayid as close allies now.

visionary
May-17th-2006, 11:46 PM
The new site isnt working for me..

Anyways the boat I think is Desamond as I heard hes coming back for the Finale, and he did get to the island through a race around the world, he isnt a true Dharma. Michael is an idiot and is gonna get cought, they are gonna have a big shootout it seems too.
Next week is 2x23 and 2x24 (2 shows in 2 hours) I cant wait for next week, should be awesome, and we find out what happens when button isnt pushed. And from the preview if I saw currectly, it looks like the hatch blows up...
but we'll see. Too bad we have to wait all summer for Season 3.

Wait, next week is two shows? Is it another damn recap episode to start it off?

:mad:

visionary
May-17th-2006, 11:48 PM
did anyone else catch ms. clue's question about walt along the lines of "does walt ever appear somewhere he shouldn't be?" i thought that was kinda odd considering that's what happened leading up to shannon's death.

I was trying to think back over his odd powers and could not recall if that was one or not. I forgot about that incident with Shannon.

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 02:17 AM
Just got finished watching (time delay out here :silly: )

I cannot believe some of you are calling this episode filler!! This episode was amazing. Yeah, some were predicting that Mike was acting on behalf of the others, but no one predicted he had a list of people to bring back! That is some crazy ****. Why would they want those four people??? It blows the good guy/bad guy theory out of the water, that's for sure. Sawyer and Kate are bad guys, Hurley and Jack are good guys.

Also, as soon as Michael approached Sayid, I knew Sayid knew what was up. You don't go looking for your son without the only guy who has military experience. I'm actually shocked that Jack and Kate didn't pick up on that and weren't at least a tiny bit suspicious. Actually takes a little bit away from the show. Jack is smart enough to know that if Mike really wanted to "take" his boy back, Sayid is the one person they would NEED to include. The fact that he didn't had to raise some serious red flags. Its kind of disappointing that it didn't to tell you the truth.

The sailboat at the end was some crazy shiznit. I have no idea what that's about. CRAZY. The one thing I know for sure is that I CANNOT wait for next week's episode. Holy crap.




I liked how they filled in the blanks and revealed Michael's motives.

***Also, I was reading the Wall St Journal today and there was an article stating, as I understood it, that the Producers have heard all the negativity about all the repeats and breaks. So they said that next season there will be 7 episodes to start the season, a break till the end of the year to introduce a new show, and then all new episodes after the new year. ***

visionary
May-18th-2006, 02:24 AM
Just got finished watching (time delay out here :silly: )

I cannot believe some of you are calling this episode filler!! This episode was amazing. Yeah, some were predicting that Mike was acting on behalf of the others, but no one predicted he had a list of people to bring back! That is some crazy ****. Why would they want those four people??? It blows the good guy/bad guy theory out of the water, that's for sure. Sawyer and Kate are bad guys, Hurley and Jack are good guys.

Also, as soon as Michael approached Sayid, I knew Sayid knew what was up. You don't go looking for your son without the only guy who has military experience. I'm actually shocked that Jack and Kate didn't pick up on that and weren't at least a tiny bit suspicious. Actually takes a little bit away from the show. Jack is smart enough to know that if Mike really wanted to "take" his boy back, Sayid is the one person they would NEED to include. The fact that he didn't had to raise some serious red flags. Its kind of disappointing that it didn't to tell you the truth.

The sailboat at the end was some crazy shiznit. I have no idea what that's about. CRAZY. The one thing I know for sure is that I CANNOT wait for next week's episode. Holy crap.

Yeah, I was intruiged that they would want Hurley and Sawyer...since Sawyer would pretty much have to be considered a bad guy and Hurley...well...I don't know. Maybe it has to do with the numbers.

As for Jack and Kate no suspecting. I was disapointed in Jack, but I guess he is just overwhelmed with his duties right now. Kate, I don't know, she has been acting kind of odd since Anna Lucia and Libby died, she seems really out of it.


The boat, I wonder if it is connected to the provisions that dropped by recently.

And what the heck was Locke up to...though he seems to be back in the next episode...(was he going to the hatch, it seemed the wrong direction)

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 02:30 AM
Yeah, I was intruiged that they would want Hurley and Sawyer...since Sawyer would pretty much have to be considered a bad guy and Hurley...well...I don't know. Maybe it has to do with the numbers.

As for Jack and Kate no suspecting. I was disapointed in Jack, but I guess he is just overwhelmed with his duties right now. Kate, I don't know, she has been acting kind of odd since Anna Lucia and Libby died, she seems really out of it.

To me, its like "Hey! Let's take the most out of shape guy on the island to battle, and leave the guy who was in a friggin' war back here!" It was so obvious it was painful to watch. It really bothered me that Jack didn't pick up on it. :whoknows:





The boat, I wonder if it is connected to the provisions that dropped by recently.

And what the heck was Locke up to...though he seems to be back in the next episode...(was he going to the hatch, it seemed the wrong direction)


I have no ideas about the boat...I think it may just be someone who was lost and stumbled across the island. As far as Locke is concerned, I think he is deeply troubled by the other room they found. I think he'll be a big part of the finale though.

Something nobody has talked about yet....why did the chick talk to Michael when the other guys left?? Was that Rouseau's daughter?? WTF?? Is she on the survivor's side, or with the "others?" It seems like she's on the survivor's side, and I believe she is going to help them at a critical moment next week. We'll see though...

visionary
May-18th-2006, 02:37 AM
Something nobody has talked about yet....why did the chick talk to Michael when the other guys left?? Was that Rouseau's daughter?? WTF?? Is she on the survivor's side, or with the "others?" It seems like she's on the survivor's side, and I believe she is going to help them at a critical moment next week. We'll see though...


Yeah that was Alex, she asked about Claire, remember? She is a somewhat unwilling helper it seems. She helped Claire escape too, in the hospital flashback episode.

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 02:43 AM
I thought she looked familiar.

Anyone else go to the website?? I found some Jeep ads, like someone else said. Anything else of note there???

Found this wierd ass picture. Its strange because when you click properties, the "alternative text" says the image cannot be displayed because it contains errors?? WTF???

This pic doesn't look like an advertisement to me...dudes flamethrowing ****...:whoknows:

http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/hmcintyr/mail/139191991471518711419.jpg

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 02:50 AM
I also found a picture of the ad placed in the paper by Hanso...there seems to be a message written backwards on the ad "If you are one know one"

http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/hmcintyr/mail/news_ad.jpg

visionary
May-18th-2006, 03:12 AM
I thought she looked familiar.

Anyone else go to the website?? I found some Jeep ads, like someone else said. Anything else of note there???

Found this wierd ass picture. Its strange because when you click properties, the "alternative text" says the image cannot be displayed because it contains errors?? WTF???

This pic doesn't look like an advertisement to me...dudes flamethrowing ****...:whoknows:

http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/hmcintyr/mail/139191991471518711419.jpg


Weird, he's flamethrowing some women(?) (hhmm one of the constellations/signs) under the section that says Summer. Or is that water and some sort of hose? Hmmm. I need better eyes. :laugh:

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 03:15 AM
I looked at http://thelostexperienceclues.blogspot.com/, and you're supposed to be able to log into Hugh McIntyre's site with the password 'the mouthpiece', but I can't seem to do it. :whoknows:

visionary
May-18th-2006, 03:19 AM
Possible spoilers from that site about that picture...not really sure yet...(in black)

"Look around in all these files, there is plenty to see! Check Peter Thompson's inbox for a string of binary number. Keep an eye out for Buddha...he's also telling us the password. (Pssst...it's "the mouthpiece"). There is lots of juicy info in here, check it out and we'll start a list of significant findings (anyone notice Peter Thompson's signature?)"


oh, you mentioned that, or at least part of it already...lol I think I need some sleep.

:silly:

(blew the picture up after saving it, but I couldn't find anything much else)

PokerPacker
May-18th-2006, 05:44 AM
I also found a picture of the ad placed in the paper by Hanso...there seems to be a message written backwards on the ad "If you are one know one"

http://www.letyourcompassguideyou.com/usr/hmcintyr/mail/news_ad.jpg
it bled through from the other side, it also says "happy monther's day!" further down the page

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 05:48 AM
it bled through from the other side, it also says "happy monther's day!" further down the page

Or happy mother's day...

PokerPacker
May-18th-2006, 05:53 AM
Or happy mother's day...
:mad: no one points out my mistakes and gets away without an angry smilie... you know what, i'll give you TWO! :mad:

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 05:54 AM
:mad: no one points out my mistakes and gets away without an angry smilie... you know what, i'll give you TWO! :mad:


:laugh: That was an honest mistake?? I thought you were serious!! :laugh:

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 06:04 AM
This episode sucked.

Oh well, I guess the hype is okay if next week is spectacular like its supposed to be...

The boat thing looks interesting... I have a feeling thats "the boat" that Michael bargained for.

First off...this episode far from sucked...it was an awesome episode.

Second, Michael was more than likely referring to the boat the others used to intercept them on the raft, not some random sailboat he'd never seen before. :2cents:



P.S . - Those websites are nothing but advertisements. Don't buy into it. The sublymonal was for Sprite.

This one is for Jeep.

Have you actually gone to them and messed around?? Yeah, there's some advertisement going on, but there's also some cool stuff. They give you clues as to the Hanso website, which is not advertisement at all. Its fun stuff...

rincewind
May-18th-2006, 06:50 AM
Just got finished watching (time delay out here :silly: )

I cannot believe some of you are calling this episode filler!! This episode was amazing. Yeah, some were predicting that Mike was acting on behalf of the others, but no one predicted he had a list of people to bring back! That is some crazy ****. Why would they want those four people??? It blows the good guy/bad guy theory out of the water, that's for sure. Sawyer and Kate are bad guys, Hurley and Jack are good guys.




I'm just wondering how it was that those four people just happened to be the four people in the hatch. I know weird **** happens on the island, but that was a pretty hackney coincidence.


Also, I think its interesting that (I believe) this was the first time the did a whole episode with no flashbacks to before the crash.


Also, I can't wait for someone to put Jack in his place. Eko give it to him a little last night - but his too laid back to really lay into Jack. I just really want somebody to say "Hey ****er - stop telling me what to do, you suck." :mad:

Mr. S
May-18th-2006, 06:59 AM
Also, I can't wait for someone to put Jack in his place. Eko give it to him a little last night - but his too laid back to really lay into Jack. I just really want somebody to say "Hey ****er - stop telling me what to do, you suck." :mad:

what do you have against Jack though? In an early episode during the first season he was essentially asked to be the "leader", and he's been doing an alright job of it. Granted he does sometimes get emotional (like chasing after Michael the first time). Either way, I was only disappointed with what other people said, as to how he did not suspect something when Michael wanted Hurley to go and not Sayid or any other fit male for that matter (like Jin, Eko, or even Charlie).

Locke looked like he was wandering off somewhere, I bet he also runs into the others next week at a different time though.

rincewind
May-18th-2006, 07:03 AM
what do you have against Jack though? In an early episode during the first season he was essentially asked to be the "leader", and he's been doing an alright job of it. Granted he does sometimes get emotional (like chasing after Michael the first time). Either way, I was only disappointed with what other people said, as to how he did not suspect something when Michael wanted Hurley to go and not Sayid or any other fit male for that matter (like Jin, Eko, or even Charlie).

Locke looked like he was wandering off somewhere, I bet he also runs into the others next week at a different time though.



I just don't like how he always tells other people what to do instead of asking. If i was on that island he would have already gotten a big **** YOU! :finger:

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 07:18 AM
I just don't like how he always tells other people what to do instead of asking. If i was on that island he would have already gotten a big **** YOU! :finger:


I agree with Mr. S...Jack was kind of thrust into the leader position...he didn't even ask for it. So when he's all dick about something, he has a right because he was put in that situation. :2cents:

Skinned
May-18th-2006, 07:19 AM
I think that Desmond will be in the boat. Remember that when the Losties tried to leave on the raft originally, it still brought them right back to the island in the end. I suspect the same is true of Desmond and the boat.

jrockster21
May-18th-2006, 07:35 AM
I think that Desmond will be in the boat. Remember that when the Losties tried to leave on the raft originally, it still brought them right back to the island in the end. I suspect the same is true of Desmond and the boat.


Yeah, but there is no evidence of Desmond trying to leave in a boat. Maybe that's how he ended up on the island, via that boat, but for some reason I don't believe that. However I don't think its some oustide person either, so maybe it is Desmond...:whoknows: I can't wait for next week!!!

Oh, and they weren't "brought back" to the island the first time, they just thought they were further away then they really were. But its not like they were sucked into some kind of vortex or something...

codeorama
May-18th-2006, 07:56 AM
Great episode IMO, can't wait for next week.

It's cool how Kate found the theatrical makeup and now Mike heard Walt tell him that the others were pretending.. so it's obvious that the others are either workers of Hanso doing some type of experimentation and study or something else.
The good guy / bad guy theory may not be incorrect, there's 2 good guys and 2 bad guys on the list that the others want. Hmmmmmm

Skinned
May-18th-2006, 08:09 AM
From the preview for next week, here were some things I noticed: (highlight for potential spoilers)


- it looks like Locke tries to destroy the computer, which may be the reason why we see the blast doors coming down

- Jack is standing in front of a huge dump of the tubes from last week (with the journals; the ones that get shot up in the air tube from the Pearl hatch)

Dexter's Better
May-18th-2006, 08:14 AM
Yeah, but there is no evidence of Desmond trying to leave in a boat. Maybe that's how he ended up on the island, via that boat, but for some reason I don't believe that. However I don't think its some oustide person either, so maybe it is Desmond...:whoknows: I can't wait for next week!!!

Oh, and they weren't "brought back" to the island the first time, they just thought they were further away then they really were. But its not like they were sucked into some kind of vortex or something...

Desmond was in a race around the world prior to arriving on the island. I assume he was in a boat that landed on the Island. -- Hence his arrival.

Skinned
May-18th-2006, 08:18 AM
Desmond was in a race around the world. I assume he was in a boat that landed on the Island. -- Hence his arrival.

Agreed. Plus, you can see Desmond as well in the preview for next week.

Dexter's Better
May-18th-2006, 08:21 AM
I think everything is a completely farce -- the losties are all experiments on human nature in the environment with limited guidance (Stimuli) by the observers. There will be controlled experiements (Buttons, encounters, etc..) but for the most part its a complete observational project.

manleyistheman
May-18th-2006, 08:31 AM
I can't believe no one's brought up that the others somehow knew Sawyer's real name, James Ford. How do they know that? Did they somehow bring specific people to the island?
I disagree on the good guys vs. bad guys theory being thrown out the window. There is only a handful, if that, of the good ones with Locke being one of them. I see faults in both Jack and Hurley as well. Hurley has the gluttony thing going on and Jack it could be argued has pride. I'm not yet ready to theorize that this has something to do with the seven deadly sins since the numbers don't add up, but rather simply pointing out that both of them do have faults.

rincewind
May-18th-2006, 08:33 AM
Is it true that the numbers have something to do with Yankee greats?

Art Monk Fan
May-18th-2006, 08:34 AM
Wait, next week is two shows? Is it another damn recap episode to start it off?

:mad:
There's a recap show at 8 ET, though it's one that's already aired, I do believe, and then a new two-hour finale from 9-11.

codeorama
May-18th-2006, 08:41 AM
I think everything is a completely farce -- the losties are all experiments on human nature in the environment with limited guidance (Stimuli) by the observers. There will be controlled experiements (Buttons, encounters, etc..) but for the most part its a complete observational project.

At this point, this is what I believe and there may be some unusual things being involved... Like Walt's abilities, Hurley and the numbers, Locke and Rose being healed, probably by the magnetism etc...

SonnyRules
May-18th-2006, 09:22 AM
And what the heck was Locke up to...though he seems to be back in the next episode...(was he going to the hatch, it seemed the wrong direction)

It appeared that he no longer felt that he belonged with the losties and is venturing out to find out why the Others sent Henry to retrieve him.

The Evil Genius
May-18th-2006, 09:29 AM
Is it true that the numbers have something to do with Yankee greats?

Yes, they are supposed to be retired NY Yankee #'s.

Suprised No one mentioned Claire grabbing Charlie's hand at the funeral or Locke witnessing Charlie tossing the statues into the ocean?

As for the blood thing - I suspect it might have to do with the "sickness" that Rousseau was talking about. Perhaps they were trying to ensure that Michael hadn't become infected?

rincewind
May-18th-2006, 09:33 AM
Yes, they are supposed to be retired NY Yankee #'s.




But they're not. 23 (Mattingly is still active as a coach) is not retired, nor are 2 or 42 (Jeter and Rivera). But, i guess they are considered Yankee greats. :whoknows:

The Evil Genius
May-18th-2006, 09:38 AM
Rince,

My bad, the numbers are supposedly Yankee greats (except 42 - which is a retired # throughout baseball).

No. 4 was Lou Gehrig
No. 8 was Yogi Berra
No. 15 was Thurman Munson
No. 16 was Whitey Ford
No. 23 was Don Mattingly
and No. 42 was Jackie Robinson, a retired number still used by Yankee pitcher Mariano Rivera

rincewind
May-18th-2006, 09:41 AM
Rince,

My bad, the numbers are supposedly Yankee greats (except 42 - which is a retired # throughout baseball).

No. 4 was Lou Gehrig
No. 8 was Yogi Berra
No. 15 was Thurman Munson
No. 16 was Whitey Ford
No. 23 was Don Mattingly
and No. 42 was Jackie Robinson, a retired number still used by Yankee pitcher Mariano Rivera


Yeah we were trying to figure it out the other day - we had heard they were retired numbers too, but that obviously didn't work. For some reason i was thinking 2 was one of the numbers.


Thanks.


FWIW - 8 is actually retired twice by the Yankees (though i forget who the other player is).

edit - the 'other' 8 is Bill Dickey. Also, 23 is retired.

Skinned
May-18th-2006, 09:43 AM
Where did Charlie say he got those injections from? I found it a little odd that he was able to locate some "meds" after all this time...

redskins4life234
May-18th-2006, 09:46 AM
Where did Charlie say he got those injections from? I found it a little odd that he was able to locate some "meds" after all this time...
I think he said he found it in the Drop that happened a couple eps ago.
Its the same Medicene Desmond was taking.

Skinned
May-18th-2006, 10:17 AM
I think he said he found it in the Drop that happened a couple eps ago.
Its the same Medicene Desmond was taking.

That makes sense that it was in the drop. But, there is no way to know if it was the same medicine as Desmond's without having seen the #'s on the side of the bottle.

visionary
May-18th-2006, 11:16 AM
I can't believe no one's brought up that the others somehow knew Sawyer's real name, James Ford. How do they know that? Did they somehow bring specific people to the island?
I disagree on the good guys vs. bad guys theory being thrown out the window. There is only a handful, if that, of the good ones with Locke being one of them. I see faults in both Jack and Hurley as well. Hurley has the gluttony thing going on and Jack it could be argued has pride. I'm not yet ready to theorize that this has something to do with the seven deadly sins since the numbers don't add up, but rather simply pointing out that both of them do have faults.

I'm sure they've seen the manifest/passenger list, or Ethan had anyway. but they may have known already, so this may be a good point.

visionary
May-18th-2006, 11:19 AM
It appeared that he no longer felt that he belonged with the losties and is venturing out to find out why the Others sent Henry to retieve him.

That's an interesting idea. I just had another though, maybe he is going to that other hatch again and is going to do a little monitoring, or perhaps wants a look at the tapes if there are some. (maybe not though)

Skinned
May-18th-2006, 11:59 AM
Seemed like a good contrast with Locke losing his faith and Charlie restoring his (throwing away the H).

Kilmer17
May-18th-2006, 12:01 PM
That's an interesting idea. I just had another though, maybe he is going to that other hatch again and is going to do a little monitoring, or perhaps wants a look at the tapes if there are some. (maybe not though)


That was my thought. I think he's going to find the tape of Michael shooting the 2 women.

TD_washingtonredskins
May-18th-2006, 12:03 PM
That was my thought. I think he's going to find the tape of Michael shooting the 2 women.

I think that too...they showed that other hatch a couple weeks prior with no other purpose really...

codeorama
May-18th-2006, 12:09 PM
That was my thought. I think he's going to find the tape of Michael shooting the 2 women.
Yep.. I believe that might just happen.

SonnyRules
May-18th-2006, 12:09 PM
That's an interesting idea. I just had another though, maybe he is going to that other hatch again and is going to do a little monitoring, or perhaps wants a look at the tapes if there are some. (maybe not though)

That too, is an interesting concept and makes sense. The only thing that bothers me is the look on Locke's face while the funeral was going on and his non-participation with the rest of the group.

CTaylor42
May-18th-2006, 12:17 PM
Great episode!

I loved the scene with Ecko telling the story about the Dog. The look on Michael's face was classic.

I think Walt was trying to tell Michael that the others aren't what they seem. I think they are with Dharma in some way.

Somebody said that they want those four because they spent time in the hatch. I think you might of caught on to something. FHenry said before he was captured he was coming to take Locke back with him. Maybe FHenry didn't run away, and is looking for a opportunity to capture Locke and bring him back with him.

Next weeks season finale looks awesome!!!

rincewind
May-18th-2006, 12:18 PM
Somebody said that they want those four because they spent time in the hatch. I think you might of caught on to something. FHenry said before he was captured he was coming to take Locke back with him. Maybe FHenry didn't run away, and is looking for a opportunity to capture Locke and bring him back with him.

Next weeks season finale looks awesome!!!


Then why not Sayid? He has spent more time in the hatch than Hurley.

EvoSkins
May-18th-2006, 12:18 PM
Some interesting stuff over on the Lost boards.

The guest star list for the finale. Highlight to see spoiler.


Malcolm David Kelley as Walt
Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond
Sam Anderson as Bernard
M.C. Gainey as Mr. Friendly (Zeke)
Michael Emerson as Henry Gale
Clancy Brown as Kelvin Inman
Tania Raymonde as Alex
April Grace as Ms. Klugh
Alan Dale as Charles Widmore
Stephen Page as Master Sergeant
Michael Bowen as Pickett
Sonya Walger as Penelope
Len Cordova as Man No. 1
Alex Petrovich as Man No. 2
Eyal Podell as Young Man
Cathy Foy as Receptionist

Interesting facts:

Tania Raymonde is now credited as Alex. She is the same girl from 'Maternity Leave'. There was some speculation that the girl that helped Claire wasn't Alex, but now we know it is.

Kelvin's last name is Inman, and he's played by Clancy Brown. Sayid ran afoul of a man named Joe Inman during 'One of Them', and that character was played by - wait for it - Clancy Brown. He appeared to be a DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) agent, and he convinced Sayid to torture his superior (Tariq) in order to get the location of a missing helicopter pilot. What all this means, I have no idea.

codeorama
May-18th-2006, 12:20 PM
I think Walt was trying to tell Michael that the others aren't what they seem. I think they are with Dharma in some way.



This is obviously the case. The rags that they wear are just costumes. That was shown in a past episode, Kate found the rag clothes hanging in a locker and she also found make up and a fake beard, just like the one "Zeke" has.

visionary
May-18th-2006, 12:22 PM
That too, is an interesting concept and makes sense. The only thing that bothers me is the look on Locke's face while the funeral was going on and his non-participation with the rest of the group.

Maybe because he suspects that Michael is up to something and doesn't trust him (and feels that the funeral is maybe kind of a fraud because of this) and wants to get to the other hatch before Michael gets everyone killed off... He seems to have been fairly suspicious about Michael since he came back and he never found Henry's tracks, making him even more suspicious (though maybe not correctly on that count)

just an idea though. :cool:

rincewind
May-18th-2006, 12:24 PM
Maybe because he suspects that Michael is up to something and doesn't trust him (and feels that the funeral is maybe kind of a fraud because of this) and wants to get to the other hatch before Michael gets everyone killed off... He seems to have been fairly suspicious about Michael since he came back and he never found Henry's tracks, making him even more suspicious (though maybe not correctly on that count)

just an idea though. :cool:



That's another thing - where the hell is Henry? I didn't see him in the preview for next week. He has to play a role at some point down the road though.

visionary
May-18th-2006, 12:25 PM
I still wonder about Ethan reffering to a "he" in the materinity leave episode.

CTaylor42
May-18th-2006, 12:25 PM
That was my thought. I think he's going to find the tape of Michael shooting the 2 women.

I'm not sure there is a tape. If I remember right, in the orientation film, they said everything must be monitored and written down. There might be a transcript somewhere in the hatch. I think Desmond is the one that has been monitoring that hatch and he witnessed the shooting.

visionary
May-18th-2006, 12:26 PM
That's another thing - where the hell is Henry? I didn't see him in the preview for next week. He has to play a role at some point down the road though.

I think he's in the next episode...according to the list of actors. ;)

but it might just be some sort of flash back...so who knows.

rincewind
May-18th-2006, 12:27 PM
I think he's in the next episode...according to the list of actors. ;)


Could be a flashback - plus, Michele Rodriquez was listed as an actor in last nights episode and we never saw her. :cool:

dreamingwolf
May-18th-2006, 01:44 PM
Could be a flashback - plus, Michele Rodriquez was listed as an actor in last nights episode and we never saw her. :cool:

she was shown, not much but enough to get a mention and royalties :silly:

redskins4life234
May-18th-2006, 04:19 PM
Interesting. I still think its desmond on the boat, and isnt kalvin suppsoe to be dead? So maybe thats him on the boat?
Weird. I cant wait. I Wonder how the others knew michael was at the cmp too when they talked to him as it was obviously zeke and not walt and it wa sa trap for him. Maybe they were using the pearl and looking and when tehy saw him in room they monitored him till he was alone there and then there was a comp in the pearl and 'IM'ed' him from there.