Cops caught torturing drug suspect

[Prosperity]

I wonder why cops get a bad rep... :rolleyes:


http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/05/9797.php


http://wms.scripps.com/knoxville/siler/siler.mp3

When Tennessee law enforcement officials showed up at the home of Lester Siler, who they suspected of drug use, they asked Lester's wife and son to leave. They didn't know that Lester's wife had turned on a tape recorder in the kitchen. When Lester exercised his constitutional right not to sign a consent to search his house, these officers spent the next two hours torturing him. They beat him with bats and guns, held loaded guns to his head, threatened to shoot him, dunked his head in the toilet, burned him with lighters, attached his testicles to a battery charger, threatened to cut off his fingers, and threatened to "go get" his wife and take his child away from him. Then they arrested him for "evading arrest". It wasn't until the wife's recording made it to the FBI that all hell broke loose. And go figure, even though these officers have been convicted in federal court, not one national media outlet gave this story the coverage it deserved. But that's okay. At the time, reporters were busy decrying the immorality of Janet Jackson's Superbowl nipple! These are the same "journalists" who refused to cover the United States Government's secretive medical marijuana program.

I'm warning you now, this is the most disturbing recording I've ever heard in my life. But people need to know about this. Our war on drugs is a failure, and the national media is following a code of silence on related humans rights abuses.

The link at the top will open the actual audio recording of the torture (some people have to copy and paste the link into thir browser to activate the link). And a web search for "Lester Siler" will give you access to further local and blog coverage of this story.

more links to same thing


http://www.theagitator.com/archives/026505.php
http://dsadevil.blogspot.com/2006/04/torture-in-tennessee.html

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

Though I've posted many bad cops stories, I wish I had something from a non-indymedia source :)

Seriously though, the War on Some Drugs was the beginning of the end of liberty in the United States. It was the impetus for the militarization of the police, unreasonable search and seizure, manufacturing criminals and crimes out of victim-less crimes (in the traditional and rational sense of the term.)

A lot of older cops will tell you that the young guys are all hopped up on the action and adrenaline and one can tell the segregation and lordly mentality of the police by how they call the rest of their fellow citizens, "civilians." They are civilians too, that's why they're called police not the army or national guard. It's how you can have a national concealed carry bill but ONLY for the nobles (police, retired or active.)

[Prosperity]

Though I've posted many bad cops stories, I wish I had something from a non-indymedia source :)

Seriously though, the War on Some Drugs was the beginning of the end of liberty in the United States. It was the impetus for the militarization of the police, unreasonable search and seizure, manufacturing criminals and crimes out of victim-less crimes (in the traditional and rational sense of the term.)

A lot of older cops will tell you that the young guys are all hopped up on the action and adrenaline and one can tell the segregation and lordly mentality of the police by how they call the rest of their fellow citizens, "civilians." They are civilians too, that's why they're called police not the army or national guard. It's how you can have a national concealed carry bill but ONLY for the nobles (police, retired or active.)

The thing is they really do kind of believe they are a level above the rest of us. Uneducated, stupid, lazy slobs expect respect and treat you like crap unless you give it to them as if they are all lifesavers or war heros.

As for a more credible source, I don't know if this source is not credible but I will keep looking and see if something else come up.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

This may sound odd, but don't just blame the police. They are a symptom of a larger problem, the changing way the government has come to view its citizens---as a mass to be controlled and manipulated rather than individuals that have the right to be left alone and who can behave like adults.

The infantilization of the American populace is a direct consequences of increased government intervention and might even be a design feature of the new society. The more child-like they are, the easier it is to manipulate them, divide them and make them a malleable work force.

[DCsportsfan53]

Wow, the saddest part is who the hell knows how often this happens? Had his wife had the foresight to turn a tape recorder on this guy would be in jail instead of the officers and we would never know and no one would ever believe this story.

I need to find a story that I saw on CNN last week. I missed the opening of it but it was about two guys in NO who were on a bridge and were bystanders to a shootout between cops and a gang. They tried to escape but one of them turned around and reached for something the cops thought was a gun.....or so the cops said. Only problem is not only did he not have a gun, he never turned around, the cops shot him 7 times in the back and killed him. If anyone saw this story or knows which one I'm talking about please post the link. I can't remember the names involved for the life of me.

[Ghost of Nibbs McPimpin]

Don't forget the Iraq war vet who got shot while OBEYING the commands of the officer on the scene (and he wasn't even the suspect, I believe.)

[cjcdaman]

I wouldn't have signed either. And his wife is a GENIUS for turning on the tape recorder. Let me tell you something, I guarantee you these cops are a bunch of little bitches without their guns and nightsticks. That recording did nothing but pissed me off completely.

[DCsportsfan53]

This may sound odd, but don't just blame the police. They are a symptom of a larger problem, the changing way the government has come to view its citizens---as a mass to be controlled and manipulated rather than individuals that have the right to be left alone and who can behave like adults.

The infantilization of the American populace is a direct consequences of increased government intervention and might even be a design feature of the new society. The more child-like they are, the easier it is to manipulate them, divide them and make them a malleable work force.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Ghost, that was one of the more poinant and spot on posts I've read in a long time. You put into words better than I've been able a problem that has wieghed on my mind often. Great post.

[twa]

A little more info

http://www.truthinjustice.org/TN-torture.htm
Siler, who attended the sentencings, has filed a $19.5 million lawsuit against Sheriff Ron McClellan and Chief Deputy Charles Scott for the attack.

...Sounds like he has a good case,however he might need the money for lawyers.

http://www.volunteertv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3965554

Jacksboro, Campbell County (WVLT) - The Campbell County grand jury has returned a four-count indictment against Jenny Lynn Siler and Lester Eugene Siler.



The two are charged with several counts of allegedly selling oxycodone within 1,000 feet of White Oak Elementary School.

[Midnight Judges]

OK, I was not able to find this thing on any traditional mainstream news agencies. That is a huge red flag IMO.

OTOH, I'm listening to this thing right now and if it is a hoax, it's a damn good one.

[twa]

OK, I was not able to find this thing on any traditional mainstream news agencies. That is a huge red flag IMO.

OTOH, I'm listening to this thing right now and if it is a hoax, it's a damn good one.

Oh it's no hoax, ya want a transcript?

http://www.thelibertypapers.org/files/silertranscript.pdf

Personaly I think the guy is a POS,however I think even less of the cops responsible :mad:

[Teller]

Yeah, things like this NEEEEVER make the national media. :rolleyes:


Rodney King, Amadou Diallo....


It's THESE names you DON'T know:


http://www.odmp.org/year.php


The liberal media will take any opportunity it can find to make a police officer, soldier, or federal agent look bad. If a sensational story is out there, they'll take it and run with it. Interesting that NO reputable source touched this one.

If the events in this story actually happened, they are undeniably indefensible. However, the department I worked for didn't even HAVE a form for someone to offer consent to search their house. We had one for vehicle searches, which require less of a standard than a residential search.

Sounds AWFULLY fishy to me.

[cjcdaman]

Oh it's no hoax, ya want a transcript?

http://www.thelibertypapers.org/files/silertranscript.pdf

Personaly I think the guy is a POS,however I think even less of the cops responsible :mad:

After reading that, I wanna kick some ass . . . the cops' ass. I stand by my post above. I bet these cops doing this or standing around laughing are a bunch of *******. Period.

[Seabee1973]

actually its just a small percantage of cops that give the rest a bad name just like anywhere else and every other organization. As to the shooting in new orleans there was a similar instance in va beach about 10 years ago the cops were chasing a guy and he turned around reached into his pocket to grab something the cops unloaded on him it turned out it was a comb he was grabbing but know onto the flip side of it Does a cop wait till a gun is pulled to shoot if you are a cop and yelling at then to stop and get on the ground and the guy pulls an object on you you have 2 choices hope its not a gun or the other choices

[Prosperity]

Oh it's no hoax, ya want a transcript?

http://www.thelibertypapers.org/files/silertranscript.pdf

Personaly I think the guy is a POS,however I think even less of the cops responsible :mad:


Thanks for doing my homework for me TWA. :thumbsup: (god that's a gay smiley)

[Prosperity]

This may sound odd, but don't just blame the police. They are a symptom of a larger problem, the changing way the government has come to view its citizens---as a mass to be controlled and manipulated rather than individuals that have the right to be left alone and who can behave like adults.

The infantilization of the American populace is a direct consequences of increased government intervention and might even be a design feature of the new society. The more child-like they are, the easier it is to manipulate them, divide them and make them a malleable work force.

Well we can take that further, and blame the people. It is we who elected them. Well, not me and you specifically, but there are plenty of people that want everyone to be treated like prisoners just to feel a bit safer. People that think every little thing has to be managed by the higher powers, as if they are somehow automatically more competent because they wear uniforms and have government titles. Hopefully it isn't a self perpetuating cycle and we can eventually break out of it, but we aren't gaining any liberties we only lose them. Once they are gone we can't won't get them back.

[cjcdaman]

:thumbsup: (god that's a gay smiley)

Talk to Major. He uses that smiley all the time. :silly:

[Prosperity]

Talk to Major. He uses that smiley all the time. :silly:

That one is a close second ( :silly: )

#3 ;)