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floydfurillo
June-30th-2006, 06:25 PM
Shockey was asked by the NTA crew who was the most important free agent acquisition by the Giants this offseason. Without hestitation he said Lavar Arrington. quote:

"He's back"

"He rehabing his knee smart"

"You can see the athleticism"

"He's a man on a mission"

I predict Redskin's fans will be reckoning the fact that the defensive coaches (Williams but mainly Blache and Lindsay) weren't able to find a way to include him in the "packages". I am sure the Giants coaches will find a way.

Warhead36
June-30th-2006, 06:28 PM
And whats he going to say after Lavar blows his first big assignment?

Skin'emAlive
June-30th-2006, 06:29 PM
im not scared cause our defense will still dominate... you know... just like it did when we didnt have him the last 2 years.

IM A REDSKIN FAN
June-30th-2006, 06:30 PM
has he said a bad word yet?

Because yesterday he was on the Best Damn Sports Show and every sentence he said a bad word.


What a dirty mouth he has....and he says to much foul language....

chow184
June-30th-2006, 06:32 PM
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JoeSkins
June-30th-2006, 06:33 PM
I'm a little scared of Arrington to be absolutely truthful. A change of scenery and motivation will both do him wonders. Even if he does blow assignments, he also causes some major problems to offenses when he's on his game. I'm just glad they moved him to the strong side where he'll have a helmet near him on almost every down.

stoney26
June-30th-2006, 06:34 PM
i hate shockey....hes so smug and cocky. He isnt even that good. F the giants, F Lavar Faggington, F Shockey the SHead.

Warhead36
June-30th-2006, 06:36 PM
We need a clip of Shockey arguing to the ref while Marshall picks that pass off his hands.

whitskins
June-30th-2006, 06:39 PM
It's not about whether GW and Lindsey could find a package to feature Lavar. That's a very narrow view of what happened here.

For the Redskins, it was about tying 8-12 million dollars worth of your salary cap ANNUALLY to a player with serious knee problems, a severe tendency to cry and whine to the press at the worst times, and the inability to fully buy into his coach's program.

Of course Lavar looks great now. It's the preseason. But there is a reason why Lavar waited so long until he allowed a physical and MRI to be taken on his knee. There's a reason why he signed a deal that ties up all of his cash in incentives. He's far from a sure thing and his knees will have his career at risk from now until he retires.

If he plays great for the Giants then good for him and good for them. I'm very confident that we are still a better team regardless. But even the Lavar of old wasn't worth what he was due to make for the Redskins. Couple that with the fact that he's barely played the past two seasons and I'll gladly take Archuleta, Carter, Lloyd, and Randle El with the money we were due to pay Arrington for the next several years.

floydfurillo
June-30th-2006, 06:56 PM
It's not about whether GW and Lindsey could find a package to feature Lavar. That's a very narrow view of what happened here.



Thats not a narrow view...thats what came from the coaches mouths themselves. When he originally came back, the line was that the only package he could get in was on 3rd down as a rush end. Then when they said he had "showed them" what they needed to see in practice, they put him in on 1st and 2nd downs and took him out on 3rd downs the very packgage that he was initially only trusted in (using Clemons as the rush end who got little pressure on the QB)

My narrow view is the only one that came from the Redskins. No one said anything about salary.

And as for the money that we overpaid for the players mentioned. This will only hurt us down the road when it comes to resign key players like a Samuels or a Jansen or a Portis or a Cooley and they will go the way of a Davis or a Bailey or a Pierce and people will forget about the money that was tied up years before and call these players unloyal for leaving the Skins.

whitskins
June-30th-2006, 07:28 PM
Thats not a narrow view...thats what came from the coaches mouths themselves. When he originally came back, the line was that the only package he could get in was on 3rd down as a rush end. Then when they said he had "showed them" what they needed to see in practice, they put him in on 1st and 2nd downs and took him out on 3rd downs the very packgage that he was initially only trusted in (using Clemons as the rush end who got little pressure on the QB)

My narrow view is the only one that came from the Redskins. No one said anything about salary.

And as for the money that we overpaid for the players mentioned. This will only hurt us down the road when it comes to resign key players like a Samuels or a Jansen or a Portis or a Cooley and they will go the way of a Davis or a Bailey or a Pierce and people will forget about the money that was tied up years before and call these players unloyal for leaving the Skins.

Yes, it is a very narrow view because you ignore obvious circumstances that were clearly huge factors into Lavar's departure. First of all, I'm familiar with the role Lavar played on this team last year, but thanks. Second, your argument is completely weak if you're going to go by just what the Redskins coaches said about Lavar in public. Just because the coaches didn't come out and SAY Lavar was grossly overpaid and a huge distraction in the papers means they didn't think he was? Please... If that's the only explanation you can come up with then you are either ignoring or not understanding key aspects of the situation...

...Which you later prove by regurgitating the misinformed rhetoric regarding the salaries of our new players. If you had a grasp on the way the Redskins manage their cap (which you obviously don't because you claim money played no part in why Lavar was released) you would realize that each of the new free agents' contracts are very cap friendly for the first three years. The years after that the base salaries increase significantly and they can be restructured on a year by year basis, as the salary cap increases every year. The Redskins signing method works because it gives the team a lot of flexibility and forces the players to earn the backend of their contracts. If you want to simply look at the 30 million that is reported in the headline of each story, then you're either missing or ignoring some key information.

And again, you stumble when claiming that the Skins won't be able to resign their present stars because of their cap management. First of all, you should already know that Portis and Samuels are still in the early years of very long extentions that they already signed with the team. Jansen, Cooley, and at some point Taylor (who will probably demand an Ed Reed type deal in a couple years) are in line for new deals in the not so distant future, but the team clearly knows this and has plans for them. Maybe we won't be able to keep everybody, but it won't be because we crippled the team's cap with our salary management. Lavar's contract was a cap killer, the new deals that we are signing guys to are not. The reason for this is the new guys are players who have yet to peak and will outplay their contracts in DC (just like Griffin, Washington, Moss, etc have), or they will be without an overflow of dead money against our cap (which Lavar and Coles' contracts left us with). Lavar, while brilliant at times, was overrated from the very beginning, and never lived up to a contract that paid him to be Ray Lewis. He didn't come close and eventually became something of a liability, so he had to go for a variety of reasons.

If you love Lavar so much that you're willing to convince yourself that our team of stellar defensive coaches is too stupid to find a way to use Lavar in an effective way, then feel free. However, that view is wrong and to believe it is to simply ignore all the positive traits that Gibbs and company have brought to this team in order to turn it from a league laughingstock to a legitimate contender.

RonBurgundy&Gold
June-30th-2006, 07:56 PM
I don't want to see it happen, but I do think Lavar is motivated to make things happen. Say what you will about the guy, but he did love it here and you know he will have it out for us. No, I'm not worried he will take out our qb or win a game single-handedly over us, but I do think he will have an impact for the Giants.

I think both sides won, Lavar gets a fresh start and gets to play us twice a year, and we lost the big contract and all the drama that surrounded his situation.

Dirk Diggler
June-30th-2006, 08:25 PM
Shockey was asked by the NTA crew who was the most important free agent acquisition by the Giants this offseason. Without hestitation he said Lavar Arrington. quote:

"He's back"

"He rehabing his knee smart"

"You can see the athleticism"

"He's a man on a mission"

I predict Redskin's fans will be reckoning the fact that the defensive coaches (Williams but mainly Blache and Lindsay) weren't able to find a way to include him in the "packages". I am sure the Giants coaches will find a way.

Shockey is now evaluating the talent eh? He has an IQ of about 68 so I wouldnt place much stock in the things he has to say.

Wicked99
July-1st-2006, 03:20 AM
he also said something to the effect of "you can't buy championships.... washington has proved that many times". i hope either taylor or archuleta put the arrogant little **** to sleep at least once this season.

oisn1
July-1st-2006, 03:23 AM
he also said something to the effect of "you can't buy championships.... washington has proved that many times". i hope either taylor or archuleta put the arrogant little **** to sleep at least once this season.

Seriously, Shockey says a lot of things. Remember all those things he was saying to the ref while Marshall was intercepting the ball?

ntotoro
July-1st-2006, 04:19 AM
And as for the money that we overpaid for the players mentioned. This will only hurt us down the road when it comes to resign key players like a Samuels or a Jansen or a Portis or a Cooley and they will go the way of a Davis or a Bailey or a Pierce and people will forget about the money that was tied up years before and call these players unloyal for leaving the Skins.

Do you actually watch the games or keep track of the team?

Samuels just signed a new deal. Jansen did likewise a couple years ago. Portis' deal is only two years old and is for eight years. Cooley is still on his rookie contract and will no-doubt have a new deal after this season. Probably likewise for Taylor.

Davis was cut. Bailey was franchised and traded. The D didn't miss a beat with Lamar taking Pierce's place. Do you actually make an effort to find out things?

PleaseBlitz
July-1st-2006, 09:04 AM
Shockey also said that he enjoys watching the Care Bears. :laugh:

Santana_Fan
July-1st-2006, 09:27 AM
Everyone keeps doubting Arrington because of an injury, and because of what he did here....what you have to understand is that it's the ones you doubt or sleep on, who will come back and bite you in the ***. Keep doubting Arrington if you want. I'm a Redskins fan till death, but you cannot tell me Arrington wont dominate. Place all of this to the side, even CP, and every other player on our team already have and would admit that Arrington will be a beast. So cut it all the b.s. please lol. It trips me out, when Arrington was here, most of us were his biggest fan, or thought he was a beast, and now that he's not here, he all of a sudden sucks....wow

skinsfanxxvi
July-1st-2006, 09:28 AM
Shockey was asked by the NTA crew who was the most important free agent acquisition by the Giants this offseason. Without hestitation he said Lavar Arrington. quote:

"He's back"

"He rehabing his knee smart"

"You can see the athleticism"

"He's a man on a mission"

I predict Redskin's fans will be reckoning the fact that the defensive coaches (Williams but mainly Blache and Lindsay) weren't able to find a way to include him in the "packages". I am sure the Giants coaches will find a way.


Is it hard to type with your head in Pasquerelli's lap?

To be serious, Lavar will help you only because you have a system that allows LB's to freelance more because of a good D line. In terms of us running into salary cap problems, so we might have to get rid of a Lavar Arrington to sign 4 quality guys. We pay in gauaranteed money which is why we are able to do what we do. Yes it sucked for us when we signed Barrow, but i will take one bonehead signing for the countless homers Gibbs hit with Portis, Moss, drafting Cooley, Taylor...

And how much have we heard Lavar say "I'm a man on a mission..." That mission is to get himself on national tv as much as possible either whining about the skins when he was with us or soon to be whining about NY.

All that needs to be said is three days before the week 17 game in philly that we had to win, Lavar started whining about how somebody didn't say hello to him in the locker room. There is your man on a mission - enjoy.

floydfurillo
July-1st-2006, 09:56 AM
Yes, it is a very narrow view because you ignore obvious circumstances that were clearly huge factors into Lavar's departure. First of all, I'm familiar with the role Lavar played on this team last year, but thanks. Second, your argument is completely weak if you're going to go by just what the Redskins coaches said about Lavar in public. Just because the coaches didn't come out and SAY Lavar was grossly overpaid and a huge distraction in the papers means they didn't think he was? Please... If that's the only explanation you can come up with then you are either ignoring or not understanding key aspects of the situation...

First of all I never said that money was not a factor in his release, of course it was but as I stated that was never said publicly by the coaches. So are you implying that the coaches let their personal feelings about Lavar's salary/status influence his playing time on the field?


...Which you later prove by regurgitating the misinformed rhetoric regarding the salaries of our new players. If you had a grasp on the way the Redskins manage their cap (which you obviously don't because you claim money played no part in why Lavar was released) you would realize that each of the new free agents' contracts are very cap friendly for the first three years. The years after that the base salaries increase significantly and they can be restructured on a year by year basis, as the salary cap increases every year. The Redskins signing method works because it gives the team a lot of flexibility and forces the players to earn the backend of their contracts. If you want to simply look at the 30 million that is reported in the headline of each story, then you're either missing or ignoring some key information.

And again, you stumble when claiming that the Skins won't be able to resign their present stars because of their cap management. First of all, you should already know that Portis and Samuels are still in the early years of very long extentions that they already signed with the team. Jansen, Cooley, and at some point Taylor (who will probably demand an Ed Reed type deal in a couple years) are in line for new deals in the not so distant future, but the team clearly knows this and has plans for them. Maybe we won't be able to keep everybody, but it won't be because we crippled the team's cap with our salary management. Lavar's contract was a cap killer, the new deals that we are signing guys to are not. The reason for this is the new guys are players who have yet to peak and will outplay their contracts in DC (just like Griffin, Washington, Moss, etc have), or they will be without an overflow of dead money against our cap (which Lavar and Coles' contracts left us with). Lavar, while brilliant at times, was overrated from the very beginning, and never lived up to a contract that paid him to be Ray Lewis. He didn't come close and eventually became something of a liability, so he had to go for a variety of reasons.

Actually I do know how the Redskins under Snyder have managed their cap, but as you so sarcastically stated earliar, thanks. Part of their strategy seems to be that the league will increase the salary cap every year. It has, which is why Snyder's spend and burn strategy has not hurt us too bad so far. However, the cap increasing year over year is not guaranteed. And the back loaded deals only assure that when it times to restructure, we will lose key people. It is a pay me know or pay me later strategy.


If you love Lavar so much that you're willing to convince yourself that our team of stellar defensive coaches is too stupid to find a way to use Lavar in an effective way, then feel free. However, that view is wrong and to believe it is to simply ignore all the positive traits that Gibbs and company have brought to this team in order to turn it from a league laughingstock to a legitimate contender.

I never said that our coaches were stupid. Although I do think that the brilliance of Greg Williams defensive "system" is overated. This notion that you can "plug and play" anyone into the "system" and we will be a dominant defense is false. In the euphoria of our 1st playoff appearance in many years, people forget that there were times last year when our defense could not make key stops, could not get pressure on the QB. Everyone who watched the games saw that a less than %100 Lavar was more effective than Warrick Holdman. Players make plays. Its up to the coaches to find ways to use the players effectively. Which it looks like the Giants will find a way to do with Lavar, whatever his real or percieved liabilities are.

webskins182
July-1st-2006, 10:09 AM
:gaintsuck I live about 15 minutes from giants stadium. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif

I've waited a LONG time for a year like this! I can see it now....Sean and Arch hittin big mouth shock hi-lo sending him into a helicopter spin, the ball is loose, and Griff, while shock is in the air BURYING HIM next to Jimmy Hoffa.
Ah Yes!
I'll admit I love Lavar, he's got great talent, but in order to be a true Redskin, you need brains. He was always out of position! They proved it on NFLnetwork.
I am not worried about our "D", not at all!
shock is saying how LA is excelling, I heard they're using color by numbers to teach the gints' d where to be during a play. LA shouldn't have a prob then.

Ask yourself this: was LA a Neil Olkewicz, Ken Harvey, Wilbur Marshall, Andre Collins, a Marvcus Washington at that............nope!
They should call him Hollywood, all talent and no brains.LA get it?
HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!
WE SHALL PREVAIL.

Hooper
July-1st-2006, 11:02 AM
Taylor completely owns Shockey. He's a non-factor every time the G-men play the Skins.

Heavy Jumbo
July-1st-2006, 01:05 PM
Saunders will find a way to illiminate the LaVar factor (if there even will be one this year) We'll throw so much misdirection at him he won't know which way's up.

You can count on LaVar being out of position and overpersuing 3-4 times for every good play he makes, and we'll take full advantage of that.

dreamshatterer
July-1st-2006, 01:23 PM
Shockey is a moron and Lavar will be Lavar. A guy who was ALWAYS "mis-quoated" when interviewed according to him.

IM A REDSKIN FAN
July-1st-2006, 01:41 PM
Why are some of you scared of LaVAR?

Joe Gibbs Stopped LAWRENCE TAYLOR. Come on now....

Rockville Redskin
July-1st-2006, 01:58 PM
After watching Shockey I felt he was an arrogant prick. Just the way he was anwsering the questions and talking as though he were at a bar. As for Arrington I do believe he'll be a man on a mission next year. He has a huge chip on his shoulder and with new scenery like New York I figure he is going to have a decent year if he his knee holds up. Over the past two seasons here in Washington he has looked alot slower and definetely wasn't up to speed. I can't stand him anymore though.

Wicked99
July-1st-2006, 02:04 PM
After watching Shockey I felt he was an arrogant prick. Just the way he was anwsering the questions and talking as though he were at a bar.


in a way i kind of think he was at his own little bar.... i highly doubt that cup he was drinking out of on the set was filled with water :)

RRick
July-1st-2006, 02:28 PM
Thats not a narrow view...thats what came from the coaches mouths themselves. When he originally came back, the line was that the only package he could get in was on 3rd down as a rush end. Then when they said he had "showed them" what they needed to see in practice, they put him in on 1st and 2nd downs and took him out on 3rd downs the very packgage that he was initially only trusted in (using Clemons as the rush end who got little pressure on the QB)

My narrow view is the only one that came from the Redskins. No one said anything about salary.

And as for the money that we overpaid for the players mentioned. This will only hurt us down the road when it comes to resign key players like a Samuels or a Jansen or a Portis or a Cooley and they will go the way of a Davis or a Bailey or a Pierce and people will forget about the money that was tied up years before and call these players unloyal for leaving the Skins.

Preach on brother, preach on,
Tell the truth,

whitskins
July-1st-2006, 06:21 PM
First of all I never said that money was not a factor in his release, of course it was but as I stated that was never said publicly by the coaches. So are you implying that the coaches let their personal feelings about Lavar's salary/status influence his playing time on the field?

Stop trying to backtrack on this. You said your narrow view comes from what was said by the coaches, who never mentioned money as a reason for his release. Now you're saying of course it was a reason, but the coaches never mentioned it publicly. So what? Of course they won't discuss this publicly, they don't spout off every single thought that finds its way into their head like some former players do.

And your last sentence here is ridiculous. Obviously I'm not implying this because nothing I wrote even comes close to alluding to this. Lavar's playing time was influenced by a lot of things, most of which I don't know because I'm not Gregg Williams. But it's absurd to suggest that the coaches wouldn't play him because they thought he was overpaid. He absolutely was overpaid, to a gross degree, but that's no reason to bench him. It's a reason to eventually cut him, but not bench him.



Actually I do know how the Redskins under Snyder have managed their cap, but as you so sarcastically stated earliar, thanks. Part of their strategy seems to be that the league will increase the salary cap every year. It has, which is why Snyder's spend and burn strategy has not hurt us too bad so far. However, the cap increasing year over year is not guaranteed. And the back loaded deals only assure that when it times to restructure, we will lose key people. It is a pay me know or pay me later strategy.

Again, regurgitated fluff from the mass media that has been proven false year in and year out. Why do the back loaded deals assure that we will lose key people when it comes time to restructure? It doesn't assure anything except we will find a way to keep a productive player or cut an unproductive player. The Redskins manage the salary cap better than any team in the league, they don't need any help in this department. Which is why they found it a generally bad idea to keep a player with serious knee problems on their roster for 12 million bucks a year.

If you want to complain about losing buys like Champ, Davis, Smoot, Pierce, then you'll have the same complaints about any other team in football. Sometimes you lose guys you'd rather keep, but cap problems are not the reasons why we lost these players. Some just plain wanted out (Champ), some were cut because their head coaches were idiots (Davis), some were grossly overvalued by other teams (Smoot) and some are very good players who simply command more cash than we're willing to spend (Pierce).

But the Skins have never been in cap hell and are not approaching it any time soon, mostly because they were lucky to unload huge deals like Coles and Lavar for players who were not nearly worth what they were making. Because we are signing guys now who are not yet superstars, if they underperform they are easy to get rid of, so we have plenty of flexibility to mold the roster as we see fit.



I never said that our coaches were stupid. Although I do think that the brilliance of Greg Williams defensive "system" is overated. This notion that you can "plug and play" anyone into the "system" and we will be a dominant defense is false. In the euphoria of our 1st playoff appearance in many years, people forget that there were times last year when our defense could not make key stops, could not get pressure on the QB. Everyone who watched the games saw that a less than %100 Lavar was more effective than Warrick Holdman. Players make plays. Its up to the coaches to find ways to use the players effectively. Which it looks like the Giants will find a way to do with Lavar, whatever his real or percieved liabilities are.

And everyone who watched the games saw that Lavar was a two down LB who could stop the run, but not much else. How many sacks did he have? And don't come back with the standard response that he wasn't asked to blitz, he got plenty of blitzing opportunities but was routinely blocked by a RB. Lavar finally got out of the dog house and did some good things for us last year, but still couldn't unseat Chris Clemons as our third down pass rusher. Yet you seem to believe that it was the coaches who couldn't figure out how to use a superstar player, not that Lavar simply didn't produce as he should have. Sorry, but I give the coaches who have resurrected this team's defense a little more credit than that.

I'm sure the Giants will find a way to use Lavar in the best way possible, especially if his knee holds up for a while and he is able to get in shape. But anyone can see that the guy didn't get along with the coaches here at all and was making far, far too much money for what he was producing. Again, even at his former Pro Bowl level, Lavar was overpaid. Sorry, but he was because he was paid to be the best defensive force in the game and was not close to that.

If he reignites his career in NYG then it's a great move for him and a great move for NY, especially because he is actually affordable for the Giants. But that's pretty much irrelevant here because he had run his course in DC, especially for 12 million bucks a year.

whitskins
July-1st-2006, 06:24 PM
Everyone keeps doubting Arrington because of an injury, and because of what he did here....what you have to understand is that it's the ones you doubt or sleep on, who will come back and bite you in the ***. Keep doubting Arrington if you want. I'm a Redskins fan till death, but you cannot tell me Arrington wont dominate. Place all of this to the side, even CP, and every other player on our team already have and would admit that Arrington will be a beast. So cut it all the b.s. please lol. It trips me out, when Arrington was here, most of us were his biggest fan, or thought he was a beast, and now that he's not here, he all of a sudden sucks....wow

You have to realize that there is a BIG difference between saying the guy sucks and saying that he wasn't worth keeping for 8-12 million bucks a year annually.

Lavar very well resurrect his career in NY, but because his knees are a huge concern, the Giants are lucky to have him at an affordable price. Good for them, unfortunately we did not have that luxury. Simple as that.

Soup
July-1st-2006, 06:59 PM
Shocko seemed as if he forgot to take his rideline pills. He couldn't keep still and talked nonsense throughout the show.
This just shows what a "Class Act" the NYC Giants really are. (Quote Lavar)
I say, "keep up the good work coach Tom Coughlin; I'm sure you'll be in the hall of fame one of these days". In your Dreams, the Giants are the new eagles of the NFC east in 2006.

Santana_Fan
July-1st-2006, 09:26 PM
You have to realize that there is a BIG difference between saying the guy sucks and saying that he wasn't worth keeping for 8-12 million bucks a year annually.

Lavar very well resurrect his career in NY, but because his knees are a huge concern, the Giants are lucky to have him at an affordable price. Good for them, unfortunately we did not have that luxury. Simple as that.



I'm not saying that anyone in this thread has said anything about Lavar sucking, but I have seen it from people on E.S., matter of fact, plenty of them, and I find it odd that they would say that.

whitskins
July-1st-2006, 10:05 PM
I'm not saying that anyone in this thread has said anything about Lavar sucking, but I have seen it from people on E.S., matter of fact, plenty of them, and I find it odd that they would say that.

That's true. I've said Lavar is a lot of things, but saying he sucks is too far. He was effective for us last year in his role, just not for the cash he was making for the next several years. Too bad it worked out the way it did.

manicd
July-2nd-2006, 12:14 AM
I'm confused with the paradox created by the Lavar love.

If he is "on a mission. Is gonna hurt us. Will get back to his old form", it states he wasn't playing 100 percent for the Skins. Therefore, we shouldn't want him if he wasn't playing 100 percent.

Seriously, I'm confused by this. Help me out. Thanks.

RonBurgundy&Gold
July-2nd-2006, 07:55 AM
I'm confused with the paradox created by the Lavar love.

If he is "on a mission. Is gonna hurt us. Will get back to his old form", it states he wasn't playing 100 percent for the Skins. Therefore, we shouldn't want him if he wasn't playing 100 percent.

Seriously, I'm confused by this. Help me out. Thanks.

I think the point is that sometimes people need a kick in the ass. Plus you have to admit he wasn't given that many opportunities last year.

SMOSS89
July-2nd-2006, 10:16 AM
Usually I try to be the least homerish as possible when I talk about opposing division players. FOr instance, I respect Dawkins and Mcnabb and others. But when I see Shockey acting like he does everytime he's on TV I can't help but say the man's an idiot or just looking for more attention. Great Player, but definetely has some screws loose in his head.

LD0506
July-2nd-2006, 11:08 AM
Shockey is a momo- this aint news folks! I thought he was pretty amusing actually, being the cartoon character that he is. He simply cannot help being a chucklehead.

What I thought was funniest was the shot where you saw Shockey sprawled back in his chair with his feet out on the floor and across from him was Adam Schefter stretching his feet to reach the footrail on the chair. Shockey asked them if they had ever played football, I LOL'd, Schefter couldn't carry a water bucket.

whatmeworry
July-8th-2006, 10:14 PM
"He's back"

"He rehabing his knee smart"

"You can see the athleticism"

"He's a man on a mission"



Haven't I heard this somewhere before?

Warhead36
July-8th-2006, 10:21 PM
We never released Lavar. He paid $4 Million of his own money to buyout his contract and leave.

It was a great deal. With Lavar's contract off the books we were given the freedom to go after that extra FA or two.

SkinsFTW
July-9th-2006, 12:38 AM
He'll get hurt. I'm not too worried about Lavar. Also I bet he will really love playing for Coughlin.

rdskns56fan
July-9th-2006, 07:44 AM
I also think Lavar will have a pretty good year in New York and wish him the best.

I just hope he doesn't get any shots on Brunell in either game because I remember what he did to Alex Smith last year.

And can we stop talking about why Lavar left? Everyone has their own thoughts, but the only people that know the situation 100% are Lavar and the Redskins.

jnhay
July-9th-2006, 10:18 AM
And whats he going to say after Lavar blows his first big assignment?
That's like asking what we'll say when Lloyd drops his first ball. Let's just see what happens before we jump to conclusions.

D'Pablo
July-9th-2006, 12:15 PM
wouldn't life be better for redskin fans if Lavar ceased to exist in the nfl? we can, at the very least, pretend this is the case.

Birdlives
July-9th-2006, 12:25 PM
Another huge non-issue. Of course Shockey is going to say LaVar is the man. What did you expect him to say?

"He looks terrible Rich. I can't believe the giants even signed him."

I love the part about rehabbing his knee. Really? I thought he was already healthy. He's rehabbing the knee again? Sounds like a chronic problem to me.