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DarthSidious
July-11th-2006, 05:11 PM
I just saw this and felt that it needed to be posted. Seems Willie Williams wants out of the U.
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9550148
"Willie Williams has asked Miami to release him from his scholarship, and is beginning the process of finding a new school.
The linebacker - who was allowed to enroll at Miami two years ago despite having 11 entries on his arrest record - was touted as one of the nation's best defensive players coming out of high school, but never became a starter with the Hurricanes.
"Whatever is best for Willie, I will be in favor of," Miami coach Larry Coker said in a statement released by the school.
Williams has not yet enrolled at any other school, and it's still possible that he could return to the Hurricanes if he changes his mind. Practice for the 2006 season begins next month.
Williams signed with Miami on Feb. 4, 2004, the day his arrest record became known publicly. He spent a few days in jail for violating probation, then had his admission to Miami scrutinized, delayed, and eventually allowed, provided he adhered to strict academic and off-field ground rules.
He was redshirted for the 2004 season because of a knee injury, then appeared mostly as a backup and special-teams standout in 2005."
I wonder where he will end up. FSU? Florida? Alabama? or somewhere else? Any thoughts?
Diggs
July-11th-2006, 05:43 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Sorry, I just love the title of the thread. That's like saying "Fat people like McDonalds? Seems so..."
I remember when Willie Williams chose Miami. It takes a classy program to allow such a fine student athlete to join their team, and even classier University to let this person enroll in the first place. To be fair, I think he got like half of the charges after he committed. :doh: I've said it before, Coker has lost control of his program and Miami is not the power it once was..and conference allignment has nothing to do with it.
That said, Willie Williams is nasty, dude can ball.
DarthSidious
July-11th-2006, 06:31 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Sorry, I just love the title of the thread. That's like saying "Fat people like McDonalds? Seems so..."
I remember when Willie Williams chose Miami. It takes a classy program to allow such a fine student athlete to join their team, and even classier University to let this person enroll in the first place. To be fair, I think he got like half of the charges after he committed. :doh: I've said it before, Coker has lost control of his program and Miami is not the power it once was..and conference allignment has nothing to do with it.
That said, Willie Williams is nasty, dude can ball.
Yeah Diggs, it seems Miami hasn't been the same since their dominance a few years back (era of Dorsey, Shockey, Mcgahee, etc.) IMO, I think the decline of the U started when they lost to VT back in 2003 in Blacksburg. Getting blasted like they did in that game really took out the aura , mystique and swagger that the program had. They have not been the same since. But that's just my opinion.
PleaseBlitz
July-11th-2006, 08:06 PM
I think its kinda ****ed up on Williams' part. Miami has at least been TRYING to rehab their image, and they took a chance on this ****up. Then he bails on them. :doh:
That kid is 100% trouble.
That being said, Coker needs to go.
Diggs
July-12th-2006, 08:43 AM
Oh man...
He could not be reached for comment, and it was unclear where he would transfer. WQAM's Orlando Alzugaray, who reported rumors of Williams' interest in transferring, has mentioned Tennessee as a possible destination. However, a Big East source said Tuesday that West Virginia was a strong contender. Louisville also has been mentioned.
Let me be on record saying I'd rather WVU go ahead and pass on this guy. He's a great talent but his past is just too ugly. I'd rather not have to defend him time and time again for his past actions. Has he turned himself around? Maybe, maybe not. One program is going to give him (another) shot. If WVU is that team, I would be excited that one of the best college footballs in the country will be in blue and gold (he is THAT good) but will also be disappointed in the decision based on what I mentioned.. Let's wait and see what happens...
WW (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15018827.htm)
SkinsHokieFan
July-12th-2006, 09:00 AM
Oh man...
Let me be on record saying I'd rather WVU go ahead and pass on this guy. He's a great talent but his past is just too ugly. I'd rather not have to defend him time and time again for his past actions. Has he turned himself around? Maybe, maybe not. One program is going to give him (another) shot. If WVU is that team, I would be excited that one of the best college footballs in the country will be in blue and gold (he is THAT good) but will also be disappointed in the decision based on what I mentioned.. Let's wait and see what happens...
WW (http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15018827.htm)
That'll juice up the NCAA forum, won't it? :laugh:
I would love to read the WW recruiting diary from his visit to WVU, that would be some entertainment
DarthSidious
July-12th-2006, 09:02 AM
IMO, I think WW is another Ahmad Brooks in the making. Seems overrated to me. For all the hype he generated, he couldn't even break first team at Miami. As for him going to WVU, that would be interesting, but I thought they had more pressing needs at other positions on that side of the ball, unless I'm mistaken.
PleaseBlitz
July-12th-2006, 09:23 AM
IF WW goes to WVU, he better be on a tight freaking leash. Like, if youre late to a meeting, you are gone.
I'd rather not have the headache, and id REALLY rather not have the distraction this year.
PleaseBlitz
July-12th-2006, 09:27 AM
IMO, I think WW is another Ahmad Brooks in the making. Seems overrated to me. For all the hype he generated, he couldn't even break first team at Miami. As for him going to WVU, that would be interesting, but I thought they had more pressing needs at other positions on that side of the ball, unless I'm mistaken.
I havent paid enough attention to WW to pass judgement on his ability. He did generate a TON of hype. Obviously, no one has actually seen him play yet. Not breaking the first team at Miami isnt a huge knock, Miami ALWAYS has several incredible linebackers. 3 years ago they had Vilma AND DJ Williams starting at the same time (and Sean Taylor right behind them). WVU always has good linebackers, but not Jonathan Vilma good.
WVU's biggest weak spot is the secondary.
SkinsHokieFan
July-12th-2006, 09:39 AM
Well he was injured all of 2004 which is why he didn't play that year
And knowing the nature of knee injuries it takes 2 years to come back
The big question is, is WVU willing to take a chance on a kid who had 11 arrests before age 18? :laugh:
PleaseBlitz
July-12th-2006, 09:51 AM
Well he was injured all of 2004 which is why he didn't play that year
And knowing the nature of knee injuries it takes 2 years to come back
The big question is, is WVU willing to take a chance on a kid who had 11 arrests before age 18? :laugh:
I know WHY he hasnt played. I was just saying that you cant really pass judgement about how good he's going to be because he hasnt played.
Like I said, i hope they dont bring him in, and IF they do, they better keep him on a short leash. No kicking him off the team for multiple offenses, then letting him back on, then watching him get arrested again and stomping on opposing players on national tv and the STILL not showing him the door until pressured by Alumni. ;)
Diggs
July-12th-2006, 09:54 AM
Well he was injured all of 2004 which is why he didn't play that year
And knowing the nature of knee injuries it takes 2 years to come back
The big question is, is WVU willing to take a chance on a kid who had 11 arrests before age 18? :laugh:
Just wondering, do you believing in giving kids "another chance." Sure, he f'd up big time before he was 18. A lot of it was stupid kid ishh like setting off fire extinguishers on his Florida recruiting trip (dumbass). I believe he has kept his nose clean since enrolled at Miami. That said, his rapsheet is longer than an Oprah Winfrey grocery list. Personally, I hope WVU says thanks but no thanks. However, I trust the coaches' decisions on this. Remember however, just because WVU could possibly be a strong contender doesn't mean that WVU is necessarily interested.
SkinsHokieFan
July-12th-2006, 09:56 AM
Just wondering, do you believing in giving kids "another chance." Sure, he f'd up big time before he was 18. A lot of it was stupid kid ishh like setting off fire extinguishers on his Florida recruiting trip (dumbass). I believe he has kept his nose clean since enrolled at Miami. That said, his rapsheet is longer than an Oprah Winfrey grocery list. Personally, I hope WVU says thanks but no thanks. However, I trust the coaches' decisions on this. Remember however, just because WVU could possibly be a strong contender doesn't mean that WVU is necessarily interested.
Umm, hello, now you are talking about 2nd chances?
Does Marcus Vick ring a bell here?
SkinsHokieFan
July-12th-2006, 09:57 AM
If I could only find a page with his recruiting diary. He was treated like a king :laugh:
http://www.recruitzone.com/news.asp?ArticleID=196
Three complaints were filed against Williams in his recruiting visit to Florida: misdemeanor battery for allegedly punching a man in a nightclub, misdemeanor battery for allegedly hugging a woman against her will and a felony charge of obstructing fire extinguishment by allegedly discharging three fire extinguishers at a hotel.
Williams had been arrested 10 times from the age of 14 to the age of 17, and his escapades in Gainesville brought about an 11th arrest for violating the terms of his probation. He could do jail time. He signed with Miami, where his status is being evaluated.
SkinsHokieFan
July-12th-2006, 10:01 AM
Like I said, i hope they dont bring him in, and IF they do, they better keep him on a short leash. No kicking him off the team for multiple offenses, then letting him back on, then watching him get arrested again and stomping on opposing players on national tv and the STILL not showing him the door until pressured by Alumni. ;)
Hmm, suspended for a year, messed up again, gone
How is that being loose? :whoknows:
EersSkins05
July-12th-2006, 10:06 AM
Woah, now that's a rap sheet.
"Where's my drink, *****!" :redpunch:
"Come on, baby, give me some lovin" :laythehur
"Hmm... what is the appropriate way to demonstrate my approval of this recruiting trip... I know, I gots to bust up some fire extinguishers!" :idea:
SkinsHokieFan
July-12th-2006, 10:07 AM
http://www.centralohio.com/ohiostate/stories/20040212/football/403218.html
Williams was the talk of the college football world on national signing day last week, but not just because he committed to Miami. A month earlier, he agreed to write a diary about his recruiting trips for The Miami Herald. But instead of the usual sanitized version, Williams delivered a blockbuster.
He told of being met at the Miami airport and ushered onto a flight bound for Tallahassee to visit Florida State. "When I got on the plane, I was like, 'Where's everybody else?' It was me, the flight attendant and the pilot," Williams wrote. "I was bugging out."
At every stop, he ate like a king. His visit to Auburn included sleeping in "the biggest bed in the world" and being greeted by cheerleaders chanting, "We want you, Willie!" Not to be outdone, the University of Florida staged an impromptu beauty pageant for him. At Miami, Williams stayed in a suite with a Jacuzzi on the balcony and was driven to see the Orange Bowl with a police escort. That visit not only cinched his decision, it helped him choose a major.
"After going on these trips and living like King Tut," Williams wrote, "I think business is something I want to get into."
Unfortunately, that may have to wait. Williams didn't tell his hosts that he had an extensive arrest record for burglary, among other things. And it didn't help when he was charged with a felony and several misdemeanors for allegedly setting off fire extinguishers in his Gainesville hotel, grabbing a woman against her will and hitting a man at a bar -- all in the span of five hours during a visit to Florida. Now he faces up to five years in the state prison on the felony count, and a year in the county jail on each misdemeanor.
Williams' attorney, Paul Lazarus, assured everyone his client "knows these are very serious matters and they can absolutely affect his college career and affect the rest of his life." What Lazarus didn't explain was how.
On every recruiting visit, Williams' every wish became somebody's command. In some places, it was steak and lobster; in others, luxurious accommodations. In still others, it was a parade of stunning young women. The only thing that differentiated his visits from the hundreds made annually by other highly prized recruits is that Williams wrote honestly about his.
It says nothing good about the state of things when the people in charge pretend to be shocked to learn of such goings-on, even less when they pawn off the blame by saying it's impossible to keep an eye on their charges 24/7.
Diggs
July-12th-2006, 10:09 AM
Umm, hello, now you are talking about 2nd chances?
Does Marcus Vick ring a bell here?
Funny you mention that, while writing that message I started writing a few sentences on how VT gave New Mexico a few chances but I went back and deleted it. Marcus Vick was a special case though. Because of who his big bro is, it was a very delicate situation with the Alumni and relationships with the Vick legacy. I remember even Mike Vick saying he didn't agree with the way VT handled Marcus, which is asinine considering they gave him every possible chance before they just had no other option but to get rid of the turd.
Willie Williams (or Willy Will as I like to call him) has no such family ties. He is an absolute freak of a player but could also be considered a menace II society.
BTW, his diaries were stuff legends are made of! :D
SkinsHokieFan
July-12th-2006, 10:13 AM
I remember even Mike Vick saying he didn't agree with the way VT handled Marcus, which is asinine considering they gave him every possible chance before they just had no other option but to get rid of the turd.
Willie Williams (or Willy Will as I like to call him) has no such family ties. He is an absolute freak of a player but could also be considered a menace II society.
BTW, his diaries were stuff legends are made of! :D
Actually MV1 never said that, it was one of those misreports
He had no issue with how VT treated MV2 and said so a few days after that report came out of him saying the former
W squared actually has a past history of criminal activity, beyond just stupid stuff kids do
It'll be interesting to see how the WVU or UL faithful will spin this if W squared goes to either of those schools
UL has been good with picking up ACC trash, Rod Council ring a bell to anyone?
DarthSidious
July-12th-2006, 10:15 AM
Question for the WVU folks, would you change your mind about getting him if Louisville was going to make a play for him? (which might be the case)
Diggs
July-12th-2006, 10:24 AM
Question for the WVU folks, would you change your mind about getting him if Louisville was going to make a play for him? (which might be the case)
Personally, I don't think that should have a bearing on our interest in him. Either Coach Rod and co. think he would be an asset to the program and could be helped to better himself..or not. I can't see Coach and WVU thinking he's a wreck and not wanting him, but then have a change of heart because another Big East program likes him. As I said, I have faith in the Coach Rod's decisions and will back him up with my blue and gold glasses. :cool:
And I'll say it again so I can be put on record. I prefer WVU pass on him.
PleaseBlitz
July-12th-2006, 10:40 AM
Question for the WVU folks, would you change your mind about getting him if Louisville was going to make a play for him? (which might be the case)
Not really. Im just looking at this year being OUR year. My understanding of the rules regarding transfers is that he wouldnt be able to play THIS year.
Anyone want to confirm that?
Anyways, im with Diggs. RichRod doesnt put up with any :pooh: from his players. He'll kick you off the team at the drop of a hat. SO, if he decides he can keep this kid in check, then ok, grab him up. I wont like it, but its not MY program to run. I'll trust RR's judgement. If he decides WW is a lost cause, i cant see RR recruiting him just to keep him away from Louisville. That just not how RR operates. He is a very straight shooter.
PleaseBlitz
July-12th-2006, 10:42 AM
Hmm, suspended for a year, messed up again, gone
How is that being loose? :whoknows:
Just pressing buttons. :poke:
Woah, now that's a rap sheet.
"Where's my drink, *****!" :redpunch:
"Come on, baby, give me some lovin" :laythehur
"Hmm... what is the appropriate way to demonstrate my approval of this recruiting trip... I know, I gots to bust up some fire extinguishers!" :idea:
:rotflmao:
SkinsHokieFan
July-12th-2006, 10:43 AM
Not really. Im just looking at this year being OUR year. My understanding of the rules regarding transfers is that he wouldnt be able to play THIS year.
Anyone want to confirm that?
Anyways, im with Diggs. RichRod doesnt put up with any :pooh: from his players. He'll kick you off the team at the drop of a hat. SO, if he decides he can keep this kid in check, then ok, grab him up. I wont like it, but its not MY program to run. I'll trust RR's judgement. If he decides WW is a lost cause, i cant see RR recruiting him just to keep him away from Louisville. That just not how RR operates. He is a very straight shooter.
Correct he wont be able to play this year, but he can practice with the team
And who has RR kicked off the team at the drop of a hat? You must mean the CH suspension against Temple for the first half as discipline, right? :whoknows:
Diggs
July-12th-2006, 10:44 AM
Not really. Im just looking at this year being OUR year. My understanding of the rules regarding transfers is that he wouldnt be able to play THIS year.
Anyone want to confirm that?
Current transfer rules:
Sit out 1 year for transferring D1A programs in different conferences.
Sit out 2 years for transferring D1A programs in same conferences.
Sit out 0 years for transferring D1A to D1AA (or vice versa).
Diggs
July-12th-2006, 10:48 AM
Correct he wont be able to play this year, but he can practice with the team
And who has RR kicked off the team at the drop of a hat? You must mean the CH suspension against Temple for the first half as discipline, right? :whoknows:
Rich Rod just jettisoned 2 players, one being a fairly big factor in the tailback rotation (Pernell Williams). They were not living up to academic standards set by RR. And BTW, they were still academically eligible.
As far as Chris Henry goes, his antics caused him to be suspended for perhaps the season's biggest game (at Pitt). Because of his absence, it probably cost WVU to lose the Big East's BCS bid at the time (they lost 16-13 to Pitt who went on to get pummeled by Utah). Rich Rod does NOT put up with :pooh:. Chris Henry didn't get arrested while at WVU. He was an asshat on the field and got penalized for it.
meetST
July-12th-2006, 11:51 AM
Willie transfering won't hurt Miami a bit. It's actually going to hurt himself more. What has he done for us? NOTHING. Those ppl who actually think this is the fault of the coaches have got to be insane. We gave him a chance and he thought everything was just going to be handed to him. Our defense have always been in the top 5 and was just number 1 last year. So I think it's safe to say that Randy is a hell of a coach and his decisions are right. Willie f'ed it up himself. Did he think he was actually going to be a starter just b/c he makes great hits every now and then but then totally blow coverage other times?? I'd rather take a Beason who might not be as talented as Willie but actually learns the plays and goes to practice. I trust Randy with every decision he makes and obviously Willie just wasn't good enough or ready to be a starter. Good luck to WW and we won't miss you.
EersSkins05
July-12th-2006, 12:48 PM
Just like anyone, I loves me some talent. But at the expense of a black eye for the program (and local service industry employees)? No thanks.
I'll take 1 Owen Schmitt over 10 Willie Williamses.
TheREALJBird
July-14th-2006, 01:26 AM
Well I think this really puts away my prediction of Willy having a breakout season...dammit he had a lot of potential too for the U:mad:
Richmond Redskin
July-16th-2006, 11:36 PM
I know WHY he hasnt played. I was just saying that you cant really pass judgement about how good he's going to be because he hasnt played.
Like I said, i hope they dont bring him in, and IF they do, they better keep him on a short leash. No kicking him off the team for multiple offenses, then letting him back on, then watching him get arrested again and stomping on opposing players on national tv and the STILL not showing him the door until pressured by Alumni. ;)
Have another you lush!!!
PleaseBlitz
July-17th-2006, 08:55 AM
Have another you lush!!!
Uh.................what? :whoknows:
I mean, I will have another, but i dont see what it has to do with anything about this thread?
EersSkins05
July-17th-2006, 10:48 AM
Uh.................what? :whoknows:
I mean, I will have another, but i dont see what it has to do with anything about this thread?
PleaseBlitz-1 Richmond Redskin- 0
canethang 305
July-17th-2006, 02:27 PM
Let's set the record straight, Miami could not know any of Williams record cause he was a juvenile and the Rape allegations from UF were a crock a bull that was made up cause he chose not to go there.
And saying Miami hasn't been the same since Tech beat them in '03, I guess Tech won't be the same after getting man handled at home last year huh!
And while were at it's still 5 national championships to 0.
Richmond Redskin
July-17th-2006, 02:48 PM
Uh.................what? :whoknows:
I mean, I will have another, but i dont see what it has to do with anything about this thread?
I'm not referencing drinking booze there guy. I was referencing the fact that you added your typical MV2 post that I see every day. I know he's such an easy target but for god's sake he's gone. Let me guess we'll sweat this thing out for a decade or so.
Richmond Redskin
July-17th-2006, 02:50 PM
And while were at it's still 5 national championships to 0.
You should have another but the refs robbed you against Ohio State.
PleaseBlitz
July-17th-2006, 03:59 PM
I'm not referencing drinking booze there guy. I was referencing the fact that you added your typical MV2 post that I see every day. I know he's such an easy target but for god's sake he's gone. Let me guess we'll sweat this thing out for a decade or so.
GOOD SAVE!!!!!! :laugh:
I wouldnt say a decade, but 6 months really isnt that long. Maybe once a new season starts and MV2 stomping on Dumervil is no longer the image of VT burned into every college football fans brain, THEN it'll go away.
Sorry, i guess you just have to deal with the consequences of having that guy on your team and allowing him to drag your schools name through the mud over and over again. Stop yer bellyaching and man up.
Anyways, back to the U. Who here thinks Miami is going to win the ACC this year? I do.
SkinsHokieFan
July-17th-2006, 09:36 PM
GOOD SAVE!!!!!! :laugh:
Sorry, i guess you just have to deal with the consequences of having that guy on your team and allowing him to drag your schools name through the mud over and over again. Stop yer bellyaching and man up.
Which is why 5 star QB's like Tyrod Taylor don't ever consider attending Virginia Tech again. Oops
You do realize your fans are an embarrasment to your instiution, and college football in general, right? I could bring on the stereotypes, but for some reason I like you ES WVU fans even though your fan base and Iggle fans are mixed up quite often :laugh: Of course this comes from a guy who has Sean Taylor in his sig, he really showed real class in the playoff game didn't he PB?
As far as this thread, Miami is my favorite to win the ACC this year. Of course, they were also my favorite in 2004, but one team decided to kick the snot out of them in their house to end the season and capture the ACC title
Diggs
July-17th-2006, 10:48 PM
You do realize your fans are an embarrasment to your instiution, and college football in general, right? I could bring on the stereotypes, but for some reason I like you ES WVU fans even though your fan base and Iggle fans are mixed up quite often :laugh:
C'mon dude, please don't act like VT fans are all angels. It's college football. Students and fans get :pooh:faced before, during and after games. It just so happens that WVU fans have mastered it. :D
From one of your rival sites:
SabreMail Contest, Week #10 Worst experience with an opposing fan. Reply
"Wow, a lot of entries this week. It's amazing how many of you have been pelted by ice, beer, cups and assorted trash while at opponent's stadiums. One fan was barfed on. (Ew.) Another was nailed by dozens of Chick-Fil-A beanie cows at the 1998 Peach Bowl. A drunk fan pushed an old lady into one of you. (Nice.) Many of these incidents occurred, of course, in Blacksburg, and the runner-up entry by Connell Mullins is printed further down in SabreMail."
It's cool to be obnoxious (http://www.thesabre.com/sabremail/archives/2005/sabremail0216.html)
SkinsHokieFan
July-18th-2006, 07:37 AM
C'mon dude, please don't act like VT fans are all angels. It's college football. Students and fans get :pooh:faced before, during and after games. It just so happens that WVU fans have mastered it. :D
From one of your rival sites:
It's cool to be obnoxious (http://www.thesabre.com/sabremail/archives/2005/sabremail0216.html)
:laugh: :laugh:
Come on man, you have to give me something a lot better then what the French have to say
I never said our fans are angels, in fact there are plenty of loser fans at VT who do stupid things to opposing fans and I just stand there and shake my head
Likewise, never think your players are angels or program squeeky clean
PleaseBlitz
July-18th-2006, 08:41 AM
:laugh: :laugh:
Come on man, you have to give me something a lot better then what the French have to say
I never said our fans are angels, in fact there are plenty of loser fans at VT who do stupid things to opposing fans and I just stand there and shake my head
Likewise, never think your players are angels or program squeeky clean
Our fans are not an embarrassment. We have one of the best fan bases in college sports as evidenced that every bowl game we are in breaks their attendance record regardless of how far away it is, and every other team is scared to come to Motown to play us. I love that you say "well, VT has a few losers but its ok" and then believe that the same thing isnt true of every other school. Open your eyes buddy.
And i dont think our players are angels, but they are a LOT cleaner than VT's laundry list of ****ups and felons.
Not that a Hokie fans perception of WVU means squat. Arent you the guys that made up the rumor about WVU fans calling Vick a racial slur??? :doh: Shameless.
Diggs
July-18th-2006, 08:42 AM
:laugh: :laugh:
Come on man, you have to give me something a lot better then what the French have to say
I never said our fans are angels, in fact there are plenty of loser fans at VT who do stupid things to opposing fans and I just stand there and shake my head
Likewise, never think your players are angels or program squeeky clean
I know you didn't really mean it but saying You do realize your fans are an embarrasment to your instiution, and college football in general, right? sort of implied that VT doesn't have their share of asshats, but you've since clarified it. But you can't just generalize all WVU fans as this embarrassment you speak of. Remember, plenty of loser fans everywhere.
There is a reason Blacksburg and Morgantown are tough places to play. And it isn't just the crowd noise.
Sorry for the frenchie example, it's just kind of fell on my lap last night.
SkinsHokieFan
July-18th-2006, 10:00 AM
Our fans are not an embarrassment. We have one of the best fan bases in college sports as evidenced that every bowl game we are in breaks their attendance record regardless of how far away it is, and every other team is scared to come to Motown to play us. I love that you say "well, VT has a few losers but its ok" and then believe that the same thing isnt true of every other school. Open your eyes buddy.
And i dont think our players are angels, but they are a LOT cleaner than VT's laundry list of ****ups and felons.
Not that a Hokie fans perception of WVU means squat. Arent you the guys that made up the rumor about WVU fans calling Vick a racial slur??? :doh: Shameless.
If you keep spinning this way PB, your gonna be real dizzy soon. Ask any other fan base about yours. Your rationalizations amaze me :laugh:
EersSkins05
July-18th-2006, 10:45 AM
If you keep spinning this way PB, your gonna be real dizzy soon. Ask any other fan base about yours. Your rationalizations amaze me :laugh:
:secret:
(they say the same thing about yours)
canethang 305
July-18th-2006, 02:52 PM
You should have another but the refs robbed you against Ohio State.
Thanks RR, that's appreciated the 'Canes were the champs in thier fan's eyes. They shouldn't let it come to that though. And my lasting memory was Clarret running down ST and stripping the ball from him reminded me Teague running down Lamar Thomas in the Sugar Bowl.:(
SkinsHokieFan
July-18th-2006, 03:36 PM
:secret:
(they say the same thing about yours)
Psst... not really
Google WVU fans, and see how many negative articles there are compared to how many when you google VT fans
Here are some links, and even some old ones. Real classy to throw a trash can at Randy Shannon
http://www.alligator.org/edit/issues/96-fall/961029/c02flash.htm
Hell even here on ES
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-96694.html
Oranges thrown at the Orangmen? How ironic
http://www.dailyorange.com/media/storage/paper522/news/2002/10/18/Sports/Su.Walks.On.Wild.Side.At.Wvu-300670.shtml?norewrite200607181639&sourcedomain=www.dailyorange.com
This article talks about WVU fans "criminal behavior"
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/03315/238371.stm
I do forget, you guys take pride in burning couches
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_397283.html
mjah
July-18th-2006, 05:49 PM
:munchout:
PleaseBlitz
July-18th-2006, 06:28 PM
Psst... not really
Google WVU fans, and see how many negative articles there are compared to how many when you google VT fans
Here are some links, and even some old ones. Real classy to throw a trash can at Randy Shannon
http://www.alligator.org/edit/issues/96-fall/961029/c02flash.htm
Hell even here on ES
http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-96694.html
Oranges thrown at the Orangmen? How ironic
http://www.dailyorange.com/media/storage/paper522/news/2002/10/18/Sports/Su.Walks.On.Wild.Side.At.Wvu-300670.shtml?norewrite200607181639&sourcedomain=www.dailyorange.com
This article talks about WVU fans "criminal behavior"
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/03315/238371.stm
I do forget, you guys take pride in burning couches
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_397283.html
Maybe you guys should be wearing the neckties to games. :whoknows:
And we do take pride in burning couches after wins. At least we dont burn down houses when we do it. Do you really need me to post that article again?
DarthSidious
July-18th-2006, 06:29 PM
Maybe you guys should be wearing the neckties to games. :whoknows:
And we do take pride in burning couches after wins. At least we dont burn down houses when we do it. Do you really need me to post that article again?
Well, at least we don't run onto the field to get peppered sprayed in the face! :silly:
PleaseBlitz
July-18th-2006, 06:39 PM
Well, at least we don't run onto the field to get peppered sprayed in the face! :silly:
Dont knock it until you've tried it. :laugh:
Diggs
July-18th-2006, 07:22 PM
Huh? What is going on here? WVU has rowdy fans??? Man walks on moon!
SkinsHokieFan
July-18th-2006, 07:53 PM
Huh? What is going on here? WVU has rowdy fans??? Man walks on moon!
We have rowdy fans
Like I said before WVU fans= Iggle fans
SkinsHokieFan
July-18th-2006, 07:54 PM
And we do take pride in burning couches after wins. At least we dont burn down houses when we do it. Do you really need me to post that article again?
You do realize every none zeta psi student of Virginia Tech LOVES the fact the Zeta Psi house burned down :laugh:
I would actually love to see it again so I can laugh at those losers again
Diggs
July-18th-2006, 08:07 PM
We have rowdy fans
Like I said before WVU fans= Iggle fans
hmmm... WVU fans are one of the most fanatical groups out there, no getting around that. But we don't throw snowballs at Santa Clause or boo injured players. I was at a WVU/VT game and I do remember some VT fans booing and yelling for an injured player to get off the field. I imagine idiots do that at every school. Remember, every school as their share of ahole fans, right? :whoknows:
We are not Iggle fans. Iggle fans are in their own level of idiocy for fan behavior.
:eaglesuck
DarthSidious
July-18th-2006, 09:07 PM
hmmm... WVU fans are one of the most fanatical groups out there, no getting around that. But we don't throw snowballs at Santa Clause or boo injured players. I was at a WVU/VT game and I do remember some VT fans booing and yelling for an injured player to get off the field. I imagine idiots do that at every school. Remember, every school as their share of ahole fans, right? :whoknows:
We are not Iggle fans. Iggle fans are in their own level of idiocy for fan behavior.
:eaglesuck
Diggs, sure you don't throw snowballs, but I bet you guys throw batteries at Santa Clause or opposing players! :silly: And if not, at least nickels or as Mark May would say, pennies! :laugh:
Diggs
July-18th-2006, 10:26 PM
Diggs, sure you don't throw snowballs, but I bet you guys throw batteries at Santa Clause or opposing players! :silly: And if not, at least nickels or as Mark May would say, pennies! :laugh:
Mark May, being a Pitt grad, went out of his way to slam WVU. Consider the source. I went to just about every game for 4 years as a student and have been a season ticket holder since and I've only seen one thing actually make it to the players/field. That was a stupid golfball and it caused a delay and penalty against WVU. The fans were pissed at this one ahole for that. Well, I do remember a few paper airplanes made with the pre-game paper get down to the player bench but that is harmless. Mostly swear words, insults, booing and constant bad mouthing from what I can recall. Most of the stuff you hear/read about are urban legends. The best ones coming from previous Miami games. I remember hearing about a trash can being thrown on a coach and an ambulance being rocked. I doubt they happened that way, and if they did? Wow! :laugh:
Diggs
July-18th-2006, 10:31 PM
Google gave me this:
n 1996, after Miami won on a last-second blocked punt returned for a touchdown, a trash can thrown from the stands hit a Hurricane assistant coach in the head.
The coach settled a lawsuit against the university and the Big East for $50,000. The culprit was never caught.
In September 1998, fans threw a liquor bottle and golf balls onto the field during a game against Maryland.
Trash Can (http://www.collegiatetimes.com/archive/2003-10/4/2144.html)
MORE MOUNTAINEER WOES: Security questions have arisen at West Virginia following two incidents Saturday night at Mountaineer Field. An ambulance carrying Miami tailback Danyell Ferguson (dislocated hip) to the hospital was allegedly shaken and almost tipped over by Mountaineer fans outside the stadium.
Nehlen said he talked to the ambulance driver Monday, who said it was not true and only that a few people banged on the side of the ambulance.
ambulance (http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/VA-Pilot/issues/1996/vp961029/10290442.htm)
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee!!! :rotflmao:
Pelting Saint Nick with snowballs is worse. C'mon they were Miami players!
mjah
July-18th-2006, 11:06 PM
Like I said before WVU fans= Iggle fans
That's just about the worst insult one person can levy against another.
Let's have some decency here. No need for the nuclear option.
Diggs
July-19th-2006, 09:35 AM
Like I said before WVU fans= Iggle fans
VT fans = Cowboy fans. Loud and obnoxious but not as tough as the other fans. They also think their :pooh: don't stink. :dallasuck
PleaseBlitz
July-19th-2006, 09:38 AM
VT fans = Cowboy fans. Loud and obnoxious but not as tough as the other fans. They also think their :pooh: don't stink. :dallasuck
:rotflmao:
And that every other team has as many criminals. :laugh:
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