Rank these recievers

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Forget T.O., Moss, Plax and Glenn for they are clearly the top 4 in just that order. The rest seems debatable to me.

Rank Lloyd, El, Toomer, Brown

imo

it goes Lloyd/Toomer, Brown, El

[Pocono]

Forget T.O., Moss, Plax and Glenn for they are clearly the top 4 in just that order. The rest seems debatable to me.

Rank Lloyd, El, Toomer, Brown

imo

it goes Lloyd/Toomer, Brown, El

If they all stay healthy ranked according the receptions and yds I'd go

Brown
Toomer
Pinkston
Gaffney
Lloyd
Moss
Crayton
El

With Portis Moss and Cooley on the field I don't see Lloyd or El getting enough balls thrown their way to garner significant numbers. Brown is the Eagle's #1 and they throw a lot more often than the other 3 teams so he as well as Pinkston and Gaffney should benefit from that style of O. Toomer will be 32 soon and used to be great but I see his role continuing to diminish.

[Dirk Diggler]

If they all stay healthy ranked according the receptions and yds I'd go

Brown
Toomer
Pinkston
Gaffney
Lloyd
Moss
Crayton
El

With Portis Moss and Cooley on the field I don't see Lloyd or El getting enough balls thrown their way to garner significant numbers. Brown is the Eagle's #1 and they throw a lot more often than the other 3 teams so he as well as Pinkston and Gaffney should benefit from that style of O. Toomer will be 32 soon and used to be great but I see his role continuing to diminish.

Gaffney ahead of Lloyd? Crayton ahead of ARE? Cocaine is a helluva drug.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

If they all stay healthy ranked according the receptions and yds I'd go

Brown
Toomer
Pinkston
Gaffney
Lloyd
Moss
Crayton
El

With Portis Moss and Cooley on the field I don't see Lloyd or El getting enough balls thrown their way to garner significant numbers. Brown is the Eagle's #1 and they throw a lot more often than the other 3 teams so he as well as Pinkston and Gaffney should benefit from that style of O. Toomer will be 32 soon and used to be great but I see his role continuing to diminish.

I wasn't going for just numbers alone the Eagles pass a lot more and don't have a clear cut #1 unless you want to give it to Brown by default so of course the #s will favor different players but who do you think is the better recievers at this point?

[paloosa]

If they all stay healthy ranked according the receptions and yds I'd go

Brown
Toomer
Pinkston
Gaffney
Lloyd
Moss
Crayton
El

With Portis Moss and Cooley on the field I don't see Lloyd or El getting enough balls thrown their way to garner significant numbers. Brown is the Eagle's #1 and they throw a lot more often than the other 3 teams so he as well as Pinkston and Gaffney should benefit from that style of O. Toomer will be 32 soon and used to be great but I see his role continuing to diminish.

First of all just because the Eagles passed a lot last year doesn't mean that equals to more catches for Brown and Pinkston over any of the other receivers. Plus Brown has not proven he can be the doninate receiver he was drafted to be. Another point I would like to make is that with Saunders as the OC he will have the ball distributed around pretty well and all of the receivers will have alot of opportunities to have better seasons. That is one thing that has been proven in stats. So I really feel that Moss, Lloyd, and Randle El will have better seasons than Brown, Toomer,Pinkston, and Gaffney.

[Who Del]

This is a good idea for a thread.

Lloyd, Brown/El and then Toomer is how I'd rank it.

[SKINtil8tin]

Gaffney ahead of Lloyd? Crayton ahead of ARE? Cocaine is a helluva drug.

:laugh: I'd say Lloyd, Toomer(mostly for his exp), ARE/Brown.

[BigDFan5]

based on being a reciever and not a special teamer


Toomer
Lloyd
Brown
ARE

[jrockster21]

Brandon Lloyd put up 733 yards and 5 TDs in San Francisco for crying out loud. Come on, man! That has to say something. I think he's a monster, just waiting for a good offense. He's clearly no TO in that he can elevate an offense all by himself, but I think with a good offense surrounding him, he'll have a breakout season.

[jpgirth]

If they all stay healthy ranked according the receptions and yds I'd go

Brown
Toomer
Pinkston
Gaffney
Lloyd
Moss
Crayton
El

With Portis Moss and Cooley on the field I don't see Lloyd or El getting enough balls thrown their way to garner significant numbers. Brown is the Eagle's #1 and they throw a lot more often than the other 3 teams so he as well as Pinkston and Gaffney should benefit from that style of O. Toomer will be 32 soon and used to be great but I see his role continuing to diminish.

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Pinnochio can't be serious
Brown leading the division

[Number5]

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Pinnochio can't be serious
Brown leading the division


Actually, I agree with him for the most part. I think that everyone who is downplaying Brown will be in for a very rude wake up. Remember the damage he did to the Skins last season with a 1/2 healthy McNabb and McMahon at QB. I think he will have a breakout season and shut alot of people up on this site.

[Chachie]

1. Toomer (by a mile.)
2. Lloyd, Randle-El
3. Brown

I'd actually put all 3 of the others as equals but I think Brown has had less opportunity to prove himself. (Or maybe I've simply seen less of him.) Anyway, Amani has burned my Skins so many times that even if he's on the downslope of his career, it's been a REAL good one. He's easily more proven and shown a lot more than the others.

PS- Hi Number5!

[ouvan59]

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Pinnochio can't be serious
Brown leading the division

Actually he is leading the 2nd tier receivers not the entire division. That is assuming the Moss Pocono was referring to is Sinorice.

And I think Brown will probably put up the best numbers of all the players listed because he will be the #1 while all the others will be #2's at best. Brown will also have the best QB throwing to him.

[Number5]

1. Toomer (by a mile.)
2. Lloyd, Randle-El
3. Brown

I'd actually put all 3 of the others as equals but I think Brown has had less opportunity to prove himself. (Or maybe I've simply seen less of him.) Anyway, Amani has burned my Skins so many times that even if he's on the downslope of his career, it's been a REAL good one. He's easily more proven and shown a lot more than the others.

PS- Hi Number5!


Whats good bro? How you been?

[xxprodigyxx]

1. Brown - He's going to be the Eagles only legitimate WR...at least from what I can tell so his numbers will be much greater than the other guys. I thought he had a pretty strong rookie season considering being thrown into the #1 position and facing tough coverage since there was no other receiving threat.

2. Toomer/LLoyd - I give the edge to Toomer just because he has been a solid receiver and LLoyd still has some proving to do. The only reason why it's close is because of Toomer's age.

3. ARE - I put him last only based on pure receiving skills. In terms of being an overall offensive weapon (plus his special teams ability) I'd put him above LLoyd and Toomer.

[Chachie]

Whats good bro? How you been?

I been well, Homey. I was just reminded by other posters that Brown will be your #1 option this year. That would change the opinion of my earlier post but i'll leave it be. I had no idea he was getting that much faith from Reid and Co.

[xxprodigyxx]

I been well, Homey. I was just reminded by other posters that Brown will be your #1 option this year. That would change the opinion of my earlier post but i'll leave it be. I had no idea he was getting that much faith from Reid and Co.

haha not much is needed to get faith from reid when, prior to TO and Brown their best receivers were freddie mitchell and pinkston.

[Birdlives]

1. Brown
2. Lloyd
3. Toomer

Brown is a good receiver. Lloyd is a good receiver. Toomer has been pretty successful for a long time. The rest of the eagles, Skins, cowboys and giants WR's have to prove someting before being ranked at all. Yes, that includes guy like Pinkston and Crayton.

[Birdlives]

Brown
Toomer
Pinkston
Gaffney
Lloyd
Moss
Crayton
El


And the homer light comes shining through. :laugh:

[Chachie]

haha not much is needed to get faith from reid when, prior to TO and Brown their best receivers were freddie mitchell and pinkston.



:D

[Number5]

haha not much is needed to get faith from reid when, prior to TO and Brown their best receivers were freddie mitchell and pinkston.

Ahhhhh......no.

That would have been 1st...

Torrance Small, Charles Johnson and Pro Bowl TE Chad Lewis

Then....

James Thrash, Todd Pinkston and Still Pro Bowl TE Chad Lewis
(With this group, Reid went to 3 straight NFC Title games)

Mitchell was never more than a number 3/4 WR. Often in key points of the game he would find himself replaced by the likes of Na Brown or Antonio Freeman.

[rincewind]

n/m..............

[xxprodigyxx]

Ahhhhh......no.

That would have been 1st...

Torrance Small, Charles Johnson and Pro Bowl TE Chad Lewis

Then....

James Thrash, Todd Pinkston and Still Pro Bowl TE Chad Lewis
(With this group, Reid went to 3 straight NFC Title games)

Mitchell was never more than a number 3/4 WR. Often in key points of the game he would find himself replaced by the likes of Na Brown or Antonio Freeman.

by receiver I meant WRs. Chad Lewis was good and I think highly of LJ Smith...but in terms of WRs....Mitchell may have been a 3/4 but he was SUPPOSEd to be their go to guy. Thrash....love him to death, but his best contributions are done on Special teams.

[Number5]

by receiver I meant WRs. Chad Lewis was good and I think highly of LJ Smith...but in terms of WRs....Mitchell may have been a 3/4 but he was SUPPOSEd to be their go to guy. Thrash....love him to death, but his best contributions are done on Special teams.


True....but to be honest, Thrash was a good WR for us up until the Carolina game in 2003. He in my eyes won the NFC East Title back in 2001 by beating the Giants on two 50 yard plus TDs in the 4th quarter. He is the kind of player I wished we still had. McNabb and Thrash had a good relationship on the field and in times when McNabb scrambled, it was always Thrash who was McNabb's top WR option....


Ahh.....my favorite memory of Thrash is against the Falcons in the 2002 Divisional Card game when he took a quick slant like 40 yards. He took like 2 steps and seperated from everybody.......a truely classy guy!

[JohnLockesGhost]

Forget T.O., Moss, Plax and Glenn for they are clearly the top 4 in just that order.

Plexiglass Burress is a tool, and he sucks. I'm willing to bet next month's rent that he is at the center of a TO-style meltdown for the G-spots. He and Manning hate each other. It will all come to a head when they lose a little with their tough schedule.

[xxprodigyxx]

True....but to be honest, Thrash was a good WR for us up until the Carolina game in 2003. He in my eyes won the NFC East Title back in 2001 by beating the Giants on two 50 yard plus TDs in the 4th quarter. He is the kind of player I wished we still had. McNabb and Thrash had a good relationship on the field and in times when McNabb scrambled, it was always Thrash who was McNabb's top WR option....


Ahh.....my favorite memory of Thrash is against the Falcons in the 2002 Divisional Card game when he took a quick slant like 40 yards. He took like 2 steps and seperated from everybody.......a truely classy guy!

i agree. if only more players had his heart.

[Pocono]

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Pinnochio can't be serious
Brown leading the division

"Forget T.O., Moss, Plax and Glenn for they are clearly the top 4 in just that order. The rest seems debatable to me."

Come on J.P. the original poster already ruled out the top WR for the Skins and Giants and the top two WR's for the Boys. My guess is Shockey and Cooley will be #2 options for their QB's meaning that it will be hard for the Boys Giants and Skins other WR's to put up numbers.

I understand that Girth is another word for thickness but how about at least reading the first post in the thread so you don't display mental thickness to the entire board.

[Santana_Fan]

Brandon Lloyd put up 733 yards and 5 TDs in San Francisco for crying out loud. Come on, man! That has to say something. I think he's a monster, just waiting for a good offense. He's clearly no TO in that he can elevate an offense all by himself, but I think with a good offense surrounding him, he'll have a breakout season.



I think he can somewhat elevate an Offense by himself, I think he just needed a decent QB. But I guess I understand what you're saying though, but I was just thinking of what he did to Dallas.

[portis&taylor]

lloyd brown toomer el

[fdarugar]

I'll go by what I think their production will be like next season.

Brown
Lloyd
Toomer
ARE

[Skins4481]

If they all stay healthy ranked according the receptions and yds I'd go

Brown
Toomer
Pinkston
Gaffney
Lloyd
Moss
Crayton
El

With Portis Moss and Cooley on the field I don't see Lloyd or El getting enough balls thrown their way to garner significant numbers. Brown is the Eagle's #1 and they throw a lot more often than the other 3 teams so he as well as Pinkston and Gaffney should benefit from that style of O. Toomer will be 32 soon and used to be great but I see his role continuing to diminish.

your posts get silly and sillier! :silly:

[Skins4481]

This is a good idea for a thread.

Lloyd, Brown/El and then Toomer is how I'd rank it.

Thats how I see it too.

[moondog]

This is a good idea for a thread.

Lloyd, Brown/El and then Toomer is how I'd rank it.

thats a pretty good and fair assessment as far as who can contribute and be a good receiver for his team (not including special teams) because toomer doesnt really do much anymore, he provides legitimate db attention but not much else.

I think many are right about brown getting the most catches though, with the combo of mcnabb throwin it to him, a pass-oriented offence, and being a decent young #1 who is eager to establish himself after a good rookie campaign.

I expect lloyd and ARE to combine for respectable numbers in all areas and collect their normal highlight reels, fulfilling their roles to open up santana's game to be a gamebreaker, but also contributing plenty of their own.

[Pocono]

Other than the aging Toomer it's hard to make a statistical argument that anyone among Lloyd El Patten Thrash Brown Gaffney Pinkston or even Greg Lewis will have the better season in 06. Lloyd caught 733 yds worth of passes last year but Patten Thrash and Pinkston have exceeded that total in the past. Like Thrash in Philly a pseudo #1 benefits from having the lion share of passes thrown his way and it took an awful lot of attempts to Lloyd to get enough completions to get those yards. Moss will get the lion share of passes for the Skins in 06. Over their careers Lloyd El and Gaffney have all averaged 500 yds per season and Brown and Lewis surpassed that amount last year in their first years of seeing playing time.

So I still say the Eagle WR's will have more passes thrown to them than Lloyd and El so they will appear to have the better years statistically. I don't see how anyone can say quantitatively that having Lloyd as an #2 the Skins are far better off on the field than the start of 05 when they had Patten as a #2 and Patten's role was very small during that time period so I don't see that radically changing if the killer WR Moss is healthy. If there are injuries they certainly are better off because their depth is better but that becomes a major factor only if there are injuries.

[xxprodigyxx]

Other than the aging Toomer it's hard to make a statistical argument that anyone among Lloyd El Patten Thrash Brown Gaffney Pinkston or even Greg Lewis will have the better season in 06. Lloyd caught 733 yds worth of passes last year but Patten Thrash and Pinkston have exceeded that total in the past. Like Thrash in Philly a pseudo #1 benefits from having the lion share of passes thrown his way and it took an awful lot of attempts to Lloyd to get enough completions to get those yards. Moss will get the lion share of passes for the Skins in 06. Over their careers Lloyd El and Gaffney have all averaged 500 yds per season and Brown and Lewis surpassed that amount last year in their first years of seeing playing time.

So I still say the Eagle WR's will have more passes thrown to them than Lloyd and El so they will appear to have the better years statistically. I don't see how anyone can say quantitatively that having Lloyd as an #2 the Skins are far better off on the field than the start of 05 when they had Patten as a #2 and Patten's role was very small during that time period so I don't see that radically changing if the killer WR Moss is healthy. If there are injuries they certainly are better off because their depth is better but that becomes a major factor only if there are injuries.

Patten is a good receiver, but I don't think he struck fear in the hearts of defensive coordinators. Lloyd, even with his inconsistencies, has enough potential to make them worry. Adding Lloyd and ARE make us a lot better because we have more depth. Last season, after Patten went down, we had no one to take the reins as the #2 which helped shut down Moss towards the end. Now, no matter who goes down we have players more than capable of taking the #2 role...3 players to be exact. When we go into 3 or 4 receiver sets we have 1 #1 and essentially 2/3 #2 receivers. I'm pretty sure most teams don't have the depth at the DB position to adequately cover that throughout the entire game.