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luckydevil
July-18th-2006, 05:46 PM
Damn lefty

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/17/AR2006071701152.html

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"Grotesque" was Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's characterization of the charge that the U.S. invasion of Iraq was responsible for the current Middle East conflagration. She is correct, up to a point. This point: Hezbollah and Hamas were alive and toxic long before March 2003. Still, it is not perverse to wonder whether the spectacle of America, currently learning a lesson -- one that conservatives should not have to learn on the job -- about the limits of power to subdue an unruly world, has emboldened many enemies.



The administration, justly criticized for its Iraq premises and their execution, is suddenly receiving some criticism so untethered from reality as to defy caricature. The national, ethnic and religious dynamics of the Middle East are opaque to most people, but to the Weekly Standard -- voice of a spectacularly misnamed radicalism, "neoconservatism" -- everything is crystal clear: Iran is the key to everything .

"No Islamic Republic of Iran, no Hezbollah. No Islamic Republic of Iran, no one to prop up the Assad regime in Syria. No Iranian support for Syria . . ." You get the drift. So, the Weekly Standard says:




"Why wait?" Perhaps because the U.S. military has enough on its plate in the deteriorating wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, which both border Iran. And perhaps because containment, although of uncertain success, did work against Stalin and his successors, and might be preferable to a war against a nation much larger and more formidable than Iraq. And if Bashar Assad's regime does not fall after the Weekly Standard's hoped-for third war, with Iran, does the magazine hope for a fourth?

As for the "healthy" repercussions that the Weekly Standard is so eager to experience from yet another war: One envies that publication's powers of prophecy but wishes it had exercised them on the nation's behalf before all of the surprises -- all of them unpleasant -- that Iraq has inflicted. And regarding the "appeasement" that the Weekly Standard decries: Does the magazine really wish the administration had heeded its earlier (Dec. 20, 2004) editorial advocating war with yet another nation -- the bombing of Syria?

Neoconservatives have much to learn, even from Buddy Bell, manager of the Kansas City Royals. After his team lost its 10th consecutive game in April, Bell said, "I never say it can't get worse." In their next game, the Royals extended their losing streak to 11 and in May lost 13 in a row.

DjTj
July-18th-2006, 06:11 PM
the Weekly Standard -- voice of a spectacularly misnamed radicalism, "neoconservatism"Will is fighting an uphill battle to carry the standard of "conservatives" - He is a traditional conservative that believes that government power should be limited, but he finds himself arguing against "conservatives" who believe that they should use their power to control the social lives of others and to manipulate and create governments around the world.

luckydevil
July-18th-2006, 08:26 PM
Will is fighting an uphill battle to carry the standard of "conservatives"

Sigh, yeah

Barney B
July-18th-2006, 08:49 PM
Will is fighting an uphill battle to carry the standard of "conservatives" - He is a traditional conservative that believes that government power should be limited, but he finds himself arguing against "conservatives" who believe that they should use their power to control the social lives of others and to manipulate and create governments around the world.

When I think about the ground shift that's taken place during my lifetime, it makes my head spin.

If, in time, George Will should become an irrelevent figure among conservatives, or more ignominiously, a conservative quoted only by liberals, then the world will be none the better for it, seems to me.

Larry
July-18th-2006, 09:32 PM
I'm wondering how long it will be before the "conservatives" decide that Will is a liberal terrorist-loving hippie because he's not agreeing with them.

luckydevil
July-19th-2006, 12:07 AM
I'm wondering how long it will be before the "conservatives" decide that Will is a liberal terrorist-loving hippie because he's not agreeing with them.

Oh they have. Go read freerepublic