Pukes Haven't Won A Playoff Game In Ten Years...

[tr1]

I couldn't believe it when I read it, but yup it's true! They've sucked for ten years...and they may suck this year...



IRVING, Texas -- Author Terrell Owens will be finished soon with the whirlwind publicity tour surrounding his latest book, not necessarily because he's done talking about his favorite subject (himself), but because it's time for him to report to his other job as a receiver for the Dallas Cowboys.

With players due in Oxnard, Calif., on Thursday for the start of training camp, there's little doubt that everything Owens does and says will be the most talk-about topics surrounding the team over the coming weeks.

However -- shhhh, don't tell T.O.! -- they probably won't be the most important.

Consider some of the other things the Cowboys must accomplish before heading back to Texas:
# Revamp an offensive line that, for the first time since 1993, doesn't have Larry Allen.
# Settle on a starting free safety, a competition complicated by Keith Davis recently getting shot.
# Get newcomers Akin Ayodele and top draft pick Bobby Carpenter into the flow at linebacker, the key position in the 3-4 defense that was so successful in its debut last season.
# Figure out what to do with a kicking game that finally features a reliable field goal kicker in Mike Vanderjagt, but with the rub of Vanderjagt being lousy at kickoffs. Coach Bill Parcells may be forced to carry a kickoff specialist, something he's never done and is loath to do because of how much he values each spot on his game-day roster.
# Re-establish team chemistry without several notable good guys: Dat Nguyen (retired), La'Roi Glover (released) and Dan Campbell (not re-signed). Owens' arrival certainly will be a factor in this; so is the fact Keyshawn Johnson was ousted to make way for another guy who wants the darn ball.

How the team progresses in all those areas will go a long way toward determining two other underlying issues surrounding this team: Whether they can win a playoff game for the first time in 10 seasons, and -- even if they do -- whether Parcells will stick around beyond this season.

Despite all the questions, camp will open with a lot of optimism, and not just from owner Jerry Jones. Plenty of pundits and Las Vegas oddsmakers have high expectations for the Cowboys this season.

Even Parcells says his outlook is as good as it's been since he's been in Dallas.

"There's still a couple of things that concern me a great deal, but personnel-wise, I know we're getting closer to where we're going to be able to be competitive," Parcells said earlier this summer. "We are making a lot of improvement on defense, physically. I think we have more firepower on offense."

The Cowboys are in a tough division, with two teams that made the playoffs last season and a third that was in the Super Bowl the year before. They also have to endure a schedule overloaded with road games the first two months; the reward is a lot of home games down the stretch.

The defense appears to be upgraded, especially with everyone more comfortable with the system that was being installed this time last year. Last year's strong rookie crop is more experienced and Parcells seems to have the options (depth) he craves.

Vanderjagt's arrival should help give Parcells one less thing to worry about. The most accurate kicker in league history is quite an upgrade from last year's unreliable trio who were part of three games lost by a field goal or less.

Then there's the offense.

Before getting into Owens, consider this somewhat overlooked aspect -- stability at quarterback.

Drew Bledsoe is on pace to become the first quarterback to start consecutive openers in Parcells' Dallas tenure. The position hasn't been this settled since the end of Troy Aikman's career, which was so long ago that Aikman is being inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in a few weeks. (So is Rayfield Wright, a standout offensive lineman for the Cowboys from 1967-79.)

The offensive coaching staff has changed, most notably Sean Payton becoming head coach in New Orleans, but that shouldn't affect Bledsoe. New position coach Chris Palmer also was his position coach during some of his best years in New England.

Protecting Bledsoe's blind side once again will be Flozell Adams, who missed most of last season with a knee injury. The Cowboys struggled once the now-departed Torrin Tucker took over. The time away also shook up Adams, albeit in a good way.

"Let's just say the perspective of the game is slightly different, that 'maybe I haven't accomplished what I want to accomplish in this game,"' Parcells said.

Free agent signee Kyle Kosier is the front-runner to replace Allen at left guard, but Kosier didn't even start every game for lowly Detroit last season. On the right side, guard Marco Rivera is vowing to make up for a disappointing debut season in Dallas, and there could be a battle at tackle between newcomer Jason Fabini and incumbent Rob Petitti.

Petitti has been repeatedly praised for his offseason work, especially in the weight room. After his trial-by-fire rookie season, he'll be pushed by Fabini, part of the growing collection of Parcells alumni.

The line's success might be as important as ever because it could ultimately determine whether Owens causes more trouble for the Cowboys or their opponents.

See, if they provide Bledsoe with enough time, he showed last season that he can still make any throw. And Owens would get plenty of them, which would make him happy.

However, 49 sacks last season showed Bledsoe is as immobile as ever, and 17 interceptions (third-most in his career) showed he can still be rushed into making some bad decisions. That would make Owens unhappy, which may end up requiring another book to explain whatever fallout that may trigger.

As tempting as it'll be for defenses to test the new line, they're also not going to want to get beaten by Owens. Any extra attention they give him means less attention to receivers Terry Glenn and Patrick Crayton, and tight ends Jason Witten and Anthony Fasano, or more running room for Julius Jones and Marion Barber III.

All told, there are some interesting dynamics that will begin to come together on the field and off, for better or worse in only a few more days.

[CowboysForLife]

And when was the last time you won a Super Bowl? Exactly.

[THEHEREAFTER]

And Dallas has been won 3 Super Bowls since the skins have sniffed an NFC championship game.... so what? Do you really want to do the history thing? :(

[Live4Skins]

And when was the last time you won a Super Bowl? Exactly.

Hey now the topic was play-offs, dont bring SB into the subject. I would expect more from you CBFL, shame on you!:D

By the way how long have you guys not been in the play-offs again?


Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

[THEHEREAFTER]

Hey now the topic was play-offs, dont bring SB into the subject. I would expect more from you CBFL, shame on you!:D

By the way how long have you guys not been in the play-offs again?


Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!


We've been out of the playoffs for two years. BTW, you can't seperate playoffs from SB, it's all postseason.

[Live4Skins]

And Dallas has been won 3 Super Bowls since the skins have sniffed an NFC championship game.... so what? Do you really want to do the history thing? :(

Same ol cliche' You guys really have to grasp the now/future. Hopefully you guys can break that stint of not making the play-offs in the near future.

Dont bring up SB wins to obtain leverage on the topic of play-off denials.


Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

[CowboysForLife]

We've been out of the playoffs for two years. BTW, you can't seperate playoffs from SB, it's all postseason.

Exactly, thank you.

[Live4Skins]

Exactly, thank you.

Two drunks trying to fool themselves into believing they have a chance at making the post season this year! :2drunks:

LOL thats what you guys did last season, watched the post season. Make it a repeat? Lets seeeeeee....


Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

[Plane Thrower]

They don't want to talk Super Bowls for the fact of the matter is, 2 of their 3 wins were during tainted (strike) seasons. I wouldn't want to bring that up either if the Cowboys had done it!

[MrSilverMaC]

They don't want to talk Super Bowls for the fact of the matter is, 2 of their 3 wins were during tainted (strike) seasons. I wouldn't want to bring that up either if the Cowboys had done it!


Tainted?? Lmao. Some of you dallas fans are stupid beyond words. So what, did the Skins get a trophy just cause the strike years happened? Maybe you forgot that Gibbs put it on your silly-ass team in 87' when your legend landry had his starters and Gibbs had replacements. If anything, it was harder to win in the strike years, especially 87-88 than normal years.

[BigDFan5]

Hey now the topic was play-offs, dont bring SB into the subject. I would expect more from you CBFL, shame on you!:D

By the way how long have you guys not been in the play-offs again?


Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

What is the object of the playoffs? and we havent been in playoffs in 2 years

[spjunkies]

They don't want to talk Super Bowls for the fact of the matter is, 2 of their 3 wins were during tainted (strike) seasons. I wouldn't want to bring that up either if the Cowboys had done it!


BULL**** they might've been strike seasons but teams had their entire roster in the playoffs.

This thread is just asking for trouble :mad:

[ncsuapex]

This line cracked me up.



Drew Bledsoe is on pace to become the first quarterback to start consecutive openers in Parcells' Dallas tenure.

[jrockster21]

Tainted?? Lmao. Some of you dallas fans are stupid beyond words. So what, did the Skins get a trophy just cause the strike years happened? Maybe you forgot that Gibbs put it on your silly-ass team in 87' when your legend landry had his starters and Gibbs had replacements. If anything, it was harder to win in the strike years, especially 87-88 than normal years.


Don't even bother...Dallas trolls are the worst. The whole 'tainted Superbowls' is like a motto over at CZ.com; I guess they need it to feel better about getting spanked twice last season...:whoknows:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Same ol cliche' You guys really have to grasp the now/future. Hopefully you guys can break that stint of not making the play-offs in the near future.

Dont bring up SB wins to obtain leverage on the topic of play-off denials.


Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

:doh: You have to make and get through the playoffs to get to the SB. You guys sweep us for the first time in a decade and now want to talk isht? :laugh: Unbelievable. Yeah, hopefully we make the playoffs this year buddy. I'll try to concentrate on the now/future although this thread is about the past. Brilliant!

[Who Del]

The Eagles have a nice trophy case.

[dallasfanforlife]

last 10 years playoffs

Cowboys 3 times 1996-1998-2003

Washington 2 times.1999-2005

Dallas did not have the good fortune in 2003 to have Tampa Bay in the playoffs, they met up with Carolina in round one. Big friggin deal The skins finally made it and had the weakest playoff team i have ever seen and barley won. Enjoy it Skin fans, but dont go getting your heads all swolled over it. Man the let down this season is going to be so enjoyable for me. I can't believe the cockyness from Skins fans......

oh last ten years Dallas 16-4 vs the Skins. and thats coming off of your sweep so i guess i can understand your frustrations of off all those beatings. :laugh:

[jrockster21]

Quickly -- who has the most playoff victories in THIS DECADE???

[THEHEREAFTER]

Two drunks trying to fool themselves into believing they have a chance at making the post season this year! :2drunks:

LOL thats what you guys did last season, watched the post season. Make it a repeat? Lets seeeeeee....


Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

You don't realize how much fun I have with you guys here. How proud you are of finally getting a couple wins is really an honor. Attempting to bait Cowboys after being dominated for years and throughout the rivalry is personally why I visit here although I can't speak for the other Cowboys fans.

Great post TR1.. :applause: You're good!

[CowboysForLife]

The Eagles have a nice trophy case.

Who Del with the comic relief. :laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Quickly -- who has the most playoff victories in THIS DECADE???

:laugh: J-Rock you're beating us 1-0 but in all fairness both teams have been pretty bad the last decade. The Cowboys have only managed to dominate the Redskins throughout and that wasn't meant to be a jab. :)

[jrockster21]

nvm...posted at the same time.


:laugh: J-Rock you're beating us 1-0 but in all fairness both teams have been pretty bad the last decade. The Cowboys have only managed to dominate the Redskins throughout and that wasn't meant to be a jab. :)


Yes, but all this 'tainted SB,' last 10 years crap is BS. Who has had the most RECENT success?? The Skins. That is what is important. I know it really pains you guys to admit it, but that is the truth. :)

[CowboysForLife]

Wow, how convenient that you skip over my post:



:laugh:


Look up, buddy.

[dallasfanforlife]

:laugh: J-Rock you're beating us 1-0 but in all fairness both teams have been pretty bad the last decade. The Cowboys have only managed to dominate the Redskins throughout and that wasn't meant to be a jab. :)

actually its 2-1 since 1996. Dallas beat Minn in 1996, then lost to Carolina, we went back in 98 and lost round 1. and 03 went 0-1 The skins went in 99 and went 1-1, then last season went 1-1....but either way, neither team can say much about that run of ten years....

[Who Del]

Quickly -- who has the most playoff victories in THIS DECADE???

Eagles!

:silly:

[jrockster21]

Eagles!

:silly:


:laugh: I suppose you need to hang onto something!! :nana:

[FunBunch7]

They don't want to talk Super Bowls for the fact of the matter is, 2 of their 3 wins were during tainted (strike) seasons. I wouldn't want to bring that up either if the Cowboys had done it!

Oh here we go...Personally, I was hoping for another strike this season so that we could put on the Three-Peat with regards to strike seasons.

In the 82-83 NFC Championship I recall the Cowboys wanting to win just as bad as the Redskins...I didn't see Danny White on the sideline saying, "Oh well, it's just a strike shortened season so if we lose, no big deal."

You could argue that a strike shortened season makes it tougher...both occured while the season was already in progress yet the Redskins on both occassions, regrouped and got to the show and won it!

[FunBunch7]

We Redskins fans can't deny that the Cowboys have had more post season success...the Cowboys are 5-3 in Super Bowls and we are 3-2. What I hold most dear though is that we are 2-0 vs dallas in the playoffs, BOTH in NFC Cahmpionship games at RFK with us going to the Super Bowl both times.

[THEHEREAFTER]

actually its 2-1 since 1996. Dallas beat Minn in 1996, then lost to Carolina, we went back in 98 and lost round 1. and 03 went 0-1 The skins went in 99 and went 1-1, then last season went 1-1....but either way, neither team can say much about that run of ten years....

Yeah when he said this decade, I was referring to this millennium not counting the 99-00 season but I understand your point.

[THEHEREAFTER]

nvm...posted at the same time.




Yes, but all this 'tainted SB,' last 10 years crap is BS. Who has had the most RECENT success?? The Skins. That is what is important. I know it really pains you guys to admit it, but that is the truth. :)


The skins certainly got the best of us last year but tr1 opened the door to discuss history so we took his bait J-rock. I really admire you for covering for your fellow block heads over here. It really must drain you though. :cool:

[dallasfanforlife]

nvm...posted at the same time.




Yes, but all this 'tainted SB,' last 10 years crap is BS. Who has had the most RECENT success?? The Skins. That is what is important. I know it really pains you guys to admit it, but that is the truth. :)


hey does not pain me a bit...Skins were better last season. There you happy? 2003 Dallas was 10-6 2004 (6-10) 2005 (9-7) Wash 03 (5-11) 04 (6-10) 05 (10-6)

3 years Dallas 25-23 vs Washington 21-27...see how fun it is....

[dallasfanforlife]

Yeah when he said this decade, I was referring to this millennium not counting the 99-00 season but I understand your point.

I got ya....i just went with the ten years.

[jrockster21]

actually its 2-1 since 1996. Dallas beat Minn in 1996, then lost to Carolina, we went back in 98 and lost round 1. and 03 went 0-1 The skins went in 99 and went 1-1, then last season went 1-1....but either way, neither team can say much about that run of ten years....

By "this decade" I meant the 2000's, not the past 10 years.


The skins certainly got the best of us last year but tr1 opened the door to discuss history so we took his bait J-rock. I really admire you for covering for your fellow block heads over here. It really must drain you though. :cool:

Why do you guys keep making this a Skins vs. Cowboys thing? If the Skins go 14-2 next year and win the superbowl, but the two losses were against the Pukes...I'll still be happier than a pig in ****. Its a success thing...yeah, its wonderful to sweep the Pukes. Most likely, we're are going to go back to splitting with you guys all the time (well for this season, anyway...once Parcells retires, its our turn to dominate :silly: ).

[THEHEREAFTER]

hey does not pain me a bit...Skins were better last season. There you happy? 2003 Dallas was 10-6 2004 (6-10) 2005 (9-7) Wash 03 (5-11) 04 (6-10) 05 (10-6)

3 years Dallas 25-23 vs Washington 21-27...see how fun it is....

No, no no no.... you can't do that.. :( You must stick to last year because that's what works for them right now... Their board, their rules... they get to manipulate stats however they want! :( Heck, I'm sure if some clown was creative enough he could try to convince us all that Brandon Lloyd is a better receiver than Terrell Owens.... ... dooohhh :doh: :( :D

[CowboysForLife]

No, no no no.... you can't do that.. :( You must stick to last year because that's what works for them right now... Their board, their rules... they get to manipulate stats however they want! :( Heck, I'm sure if some clown was creative enough he could try to convince us all that Brandon Lloyd is a better receiver than Terrell Owens.... ... dooohhh :doh: :( :D


I gotta admit, I got a chuckle out of that...

[dallasfanforlife]

No, no no no.... you can't do that.. :( You must stick to last year because that's what works for them right now... Their board, their rules... they get to manipulate stats however they want! :( Heck, I'm sure if some clown was creative enough he could try to convince us all that Brandon Lloyd is a better receiver than Terrell Owens.... ... dooohhh :doh: :( :D

:laugh: what was i thinking...my bad.....


lloyd is not better then T.O? man where have i been?......oh wait, ive been here in es.......

[THEHEREAFTER]

:laugh: what was i thinking...my bad.....


lloyd is not better then T.O? man where have i been?......oh wait, ive been here in es.......

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[jrockster21]

No, no no no.... you can't do that.. :( You must stick to last year because that's what works for them right now... Their board, their rules... they get to manipulate stats however they want! :( Heck, I'm sure if some clown was creative enough he could try to convince us all that Brandon Lloyd is a better receiver than Terrell Owens.... ... dooohhh :doh: :( :D


I gotta admit, I got a chuckle out of that...


:laugh: what was i thinking...my bad.....


lloyd is not better then T.O? man where have i been?......oh wait, ive been here in es.......


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:



I have to say, I'm very disappointed in my Skin-fan bretheren. I go to get some dinner, and they let this Cowpokefanboy circle-jerk go on unchecked. Come on, Skins fans...this is embarassing.

Listen -- if you guys aren't going to take the board seriously, stop degrading the quality of discussion with this back-patting nonsense.

[tr1]

They don't want to talk Super Bowls for the fact of the matter is, 2 of their 3 wins were during tainted (strike) seasons. I wouldn't want to bring that up either if the Cowboys had done it!

Um...okay. Now which SB was Michael Irvin NOT using cocaine? Or where a Dallas player was not charged with a felony?

Just asking...

[tr1]

Dallas fans suffer from reading comprehension problems. The quote from the story is about WINNING a playoff game...something the Skins did...ah...well...LAST YEAR!

[dallasfanforlife]

Um...okay. Now which SB was Michael Irvin NOT using cocaine? Or where a Dallas player was not charged with a felony?

Just asking...


well i dont know. How many titles did Washington win with Manley was NOT smoking crack? Works both ways......

[Live4Skins]

Dallas fans suffer from reading comprehension problems. The quote from the story is about WINNING a playoff game...something the Skins did...ah...well...LAST YEAR!

As I see it Tr1 we should be allowed to rant and brag about last season, because if you were to go to the CZ and the shoe was on the other foot you know what they would be saying. "We sweeped the skins blah, blah, blah!"

So DFL, THA, & CFL can all kiss my azz. THA you are correct you are at ES and we dont have to manipulate the 2 wins against you last season. I'm not worried about what happened in the last 10 years. I will rub it in your face as long and as possible to get you guys to see what we felt in that tenure.

I'll take advantage of this oppurtunity, soak in the glory, and relish in the victory! This is our time and if you dont like it go home. Or if you want to enjoy our celebration for years to come sit back and enjoy the ride.

[kingfish50]

They don't want to talk Super Bowls for the fact of the matter is, 2 of their 3 wins were during tainted (strike) seasons. I wouldn't want to bring that up either if the Cowboys had done it!
Tainted? Every team in the NFL had the same opportunity to get there as the Redskins did. I guess you'd be singing a different tune if your low life pukes had made it.
Oh and by the way, the first year the Redskins won that so called tainted Super Bowl, during the strike, your dallass cow Boys were the only team to play thier regulars and our scab team whipped them pretty good.
Anything else you wanna say?
:dallasuck

[TSmithTheReal#36]

last 10 years playoffs

Cowboys 3 times 1996-1998-2003

Washington 2 times.1999-2005

oh last ten years Dallas 16-4 vs the Skins. and thats coming off of your sweep so i guess i can understand your frustrations of off all those beatings. :laugh:

cowboy fan doesn't even know how many times his team has been to the Playoffs the last 10 years :doh: :laugh:
Cowboys made it in 96, 98, 99, 03 Playoff record 1-4
Skins 99, 05 Playoff record 2-2

Also your wrong again the record the last 10 years is not 16-4 it's 15-5

[Warhead36]

I hate when other teams fans come to our board and then complain about the posters being too homeristic.

It is called ExtremeSKINS for a reason...

[dallasfanforlife]

cowboy fan doesn't even know how many times his team has been to the Playoffs the last 10 years :doh: :laugh:
Cowboys made it in 96, 98, 99, 03 Playoff record 1-4
Skins 99, 05 Playoff record 2-2

Also your wrong again the record the last 10 years is not 16-4 it's 15-5


ah your right. My bad...

So we have been to the playoffs twice as many times as the skins in the past 10 seasons...i can live with that.

[Plane Thrower]

Tainted? Every team in the NFL had the same opportunity to get there as the Redskins did. I guess you'd be singing a different tune if your low life pukes had made it.
Oh and by the way, the first year the Redskins won that so called tainted Super Bowl, during the strike, your dallass cow Boys were the only team to play thier regulars and our scab team whipped them pretty good.
Anything else you wanna say?
:dallasuckYes. Get your facts straight. The replacement games were during the second strike. :doh:

[kingfish50]

Yes. Get your facts straight. The replacement games were during the second strike. :doh:
Fact is, our Redskin scabs beat your sorry dallass regulars in a game. Now dispute that fact!
:dallasuck

[TSmithTheReal#36]

ah your right. My bad...

So we have been to the playoffs twice as many times as the skins in the past 10 seasons...i can live with that.

And yet we still have 1 more playoff win than you with half the appearences :silly:
And a better overall record 6 of the last 10 years Skins had a better record :applause: even though the Cowboys won most of the series :rolleyes:

[dallasfanforlife]

And yet we still have 1 more playoff win than you with half the appearences :silly:
And a better overall record 6 of the last 10 years Skins had a better record :applause: even though the Cowboys won most of the series :rolleyes:


Ok...well lets just be real about this. The 2006 season has not started yet, so to go back 10 years would be 1995-2205. Anyone here care to run the playoff numbers on that....or would you like me to do it for ya?:silly:

[Plane Thrower]

Fact is, our Redskin scabs beat your sorry dallass regulars in a game. Now dispute that fact!
:dallasuck
Only you would brag about your scabs. :rolleyes:

[AtticA]

Ok...well lets just be real about this. The 2006 season has not started yet, so to go back 10 years would be 1995-2205. Anyone here care to run the playoff numbers on that....or would you like me to do it for ya?:silly:
Whoa, 2204 was the year cryogenic frozen Joe gibss handed over the team to Greg Williams the 14th after his 8 consecutive super bowl victory. I remember it like it was yesterday

[TSmithTheReal#36]

Ok...well lets just be real about this. The 2006 season has not started yet, so to go back 10 years would be 1995-2205. Anyone here care to run the playoff numbers on that....or would you like me to do it for ya?:silly:

I'm counting the past 10 seasons 96-05 = 10 seasons :nana:

[dallasfanforlife]

I'm counting the past 10 seasons 96-05 = 10 seasons :nana:


1/28/1996 Dallas wins Superbowl 30. :silly:

[skins4eva]

I have to say, I'm very disappointed in my Skin-fan bretheren. I go to get some dinner, and they let this Cowpokefanboy circle-jerk go on unchecked. Come on, Skins fans...this is embarassing.

Listen -- if you guys aren't going to take the board seriously, stop degrading the quality of discussion with this back-patting nonsense.


It just speaks to the superiority of this board that it is frequented by so many cowpukes fans. They can't get enough of this place. They've obviously realized that most boys fans are incabable of stringing a sentence together, so they must come here for intelligent debate. It's fun to watch as they clumsily navigate their way through all of their nonsense arguments only to be rebutted by the brilliance of the skins fans who populate this board.

[kingfish50]

Only you would brag about your scabs. :rolleyes:
Well yes I actually would, considering that they actually beat the team that had half of thier regulars playing against a bunch of men that they got off the streets, in a national televised game to boot.
I'd be embarassed as hell, but I'd expect nothing less from any dallass fan that welcomes a cancer to thier team that desecrated thier beloved star on several occasions, with open arms.
You have anymore bright come backs?

[Plane Thrower]

You have anymore bright come backs?Try this one on... Nationally televised game, right? Decent team, at home, with a future HOF coach on the sideline and a Super Bowl MVP QB playing the absolute worst team in recent NFL history, and gets beat on their own turf, held without a touchdown by a bunch of scrubs that no one else wanted. Does that jog your memory a little bit? Sound familiar? I thought so. How's that for embarassing?

BANG!

[Plane Thrower]

It just speaks to the superiority of this board that it is frequented by so many cowpukes fans. They can't get enough of this place. They've obviously realized that most boys fans are incabable of stringing a sentence together, so they must come here for intelligent debate. It's fun to watch as they clumsily navigate their way through all of their nonsense arguments only to be rebutted by the brilliance of the skins fans who populate this board.
Looks like someone picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

[RedskinsNation]

Funniest part about the ENTIRE THREAD is how the thread starter titled it "Cowpukes.............."

And these guys are spilling their coffee to get that mouse moving to get in this thread!!!!!!! I cant believe how many live on this site.

F*** the Dallas Hillbillies!

[kingfish50]

Try this one on... Nationally televised game, right? Decent team, at home, with a future HOF coach on the sideline and a Super Bowl MVP QB playing the absolute worst team in recent NFL history, and gets beat on their own turf, held without a touchdown by a bunch of scrubs that no one else wanted. Does that jog your memory a little bit? Sound familiar? I thought so. How's that for embarassing?

BANG!
First of all, I have no idea of what your talking about. Please try and be a little more specific. As long as we didn't loose to a scab team with over half of our starting players in the game, no, I really wouldn't be embarassed at all. Mad maybe, but not embarassed.
Your just to easy. Let's do this some more!

[Plane Thrower]

First of all, I have no idea of what your talking about. Please try and be a little more specific. As long as we didn't loose to a scab team with over half of our starting players in the game, no, I really wouldn't be embarassed at all. Mad maybe, but not embarassed.
Your just to easy. Let's do this some more!Figures you would want to forget about this one:

Straight from the 1990 NFL Record & Fact Book -

Sunday Night, November 5, 1989 --- Dallas 13, Washington 3 - Quarterback Doug Williams found himself shaking off mothballs as the Dallas Cowboys finally found a team they could handle -- the embarrassed Washington Redskins. With Troy Aikman injured, fellow rookie QB Steve Walsh led the Cowboys as Paul Palmer rushed for 110 yards at RFK Stadium and personally produced the drive to his touchdown that broke a 3-3 tie. His 14-yard, fourth-quarter scamper set up an insurance field goal sealing the Cowboys' first victory of the NFL season and the first win of Coach Jimmy Johnson's pro career.

[tr1]

Figures you would want to forget about this one:

Straight from the 1990 NFL Record & Fact Book -

Sunday Night, November 5, 1989 --- Dallas 13, Washington 3 - Quarterback Doug Williams found himself shaking off mothballs as the Dallas Cowboys finally found a team they could handle -- the embarrassed Washington Redskins. With Troy Aikman injured, fellow rookie QB Steve Walsh led the Cowboys as Paul Palmer rushed for 110 yards at RFK Stadium and personally produced the drive to his touchdown that broke a 3-3 tie. His 14-yard, fourth-quarter scamper set up an insurance field goal sealing the Cowboys' first victory of the NFL season and the first win of Coach Jimmy Johnson's pro career.

So, was Irvin on cocaine in that game or not?

[Who Del]

Maybe I'm not allowed to speak on this because my team has never won a Super Bowl but this is probably the funniest thread in a while here in the Around the NFL section.

Both the Redskins and the Cowboys have sucked in recent memory. Why can't both teams swallow that and let the field of play decide who will win the next Super Bowl.

[Plane Thrower]

So, was Irvin on cocaine in that game or not?He wasn't, (he wasn't even there, he was on IR) but I'm sure Manley had tooted to the gills before the game. People in glass houses...

[Plane Thrower]

So, was Irvin on cocaine in that game or not?Oh, and if that's all you got to come back with... that was WEAK.

[kingfish50]

Figures you would want to forget about this one:

Straight from the 1990 NFL Record & Fact Book -

Sunday Night, November 5, 1989 --- Dallas 13, Washington 3 - Quarterback Doug Williams found himself shaking off mothballs as the Dallas Cowboys finally found a team they could handle -- the embarrassed Washington Redskins. With Troy Aikman injured, fellow rookie QB Steve Walsh led the Cowboys as Paul Palmer rushed for 110 yards at RFK Stadium and personally produced the drive to his touchdown that broke a 3-3 tie. His 14-yard, fourth-quarter scamper set up an insurance field goal sealing the Cowboys' first victory of the NFL season and the first win of Coach Jimmy Johnson's pro career.
Like I said brighteyes, mad but not embarassed.

[Plane Thrower]

Like I said brighteyes, mad but not embarassed.You are in that 1% minority then... most Skins fans I have talked to have said that was the worst moment they've had to endure in the past 20 years, the fact that their QB who had won a SB MVP trophy only two years before, and their future HOF coach could not beat a team pretty much made up of guys who Jimmy dragged in off the streets. It was a well known fact that during that year there were MANY players (some who played in that game, in fact) who were signed the previous Monday and cut the following Monday. That would be embarassing to anyone who had a soul.

[tr1]

You are in that 1% minority then... most Skins fans I have talked to have said that was the worst moment they've had to endure in the past 20 years, the fact that their QB who had won a SB MVP trophy only two years before, and their future HOF coach could not beat a team pretty much made up of guys who Jimmy dragged in off the streets. It was a well known fact that during that year there were MANY players (some who played in that game, in fact) who were signed the previous Monday and cut the following Monday. That would be embarassing to anyone who had a soul.

Then, why are you here other than to dredge up bad Redskins' moments?

I think it's called trolling.

Shall a I list recent bad puke moment?

14-13

You might want to read the re-cap...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=250919006

[kingfish50]

You are in that 1% minority then... most Skins fans I have talked to have said that was the worst moment they've had to endure in the past 20 years, the fact that their QB who had won a SB MVP trophy only two years before, and their future HOF coach could not beat a team pretty much made up of guys who Jimmy dragged in off the streets. It was a well known fact that during that year there were MANY players (some who played in that game, in fact) who were signed the previous Monday and cut the following Monday. That would be embarassing to anyone who had a soul.
Like I said, It's better than getting beaten by a bunch of scabs. If that's the best that you can come up with.............

[ross3909]

You are in that 1% minority then... most Skins fans I have talked to have said that was the worst moment they've had to endure in the past 20 years, the fact that their QB who had won a SB MVP trophy only two years before, and their future HOF coach could not beat a team pretty much made up of guys who Jimmy dragged in off the streets. It was a well known fact that during that year there were MANY players (some who played in that game, in fact) who were signed the previous Monday and cut the following Monday. That would be embarassing to anyone who had a soul.

But our win with scubs against the Brokeback nations starters got us to the Superbowl. Your win was just a win. You can see if affected us so much to this day that no one remembered it until you had to quote it out of your Dallas's best victories book.

[Plane Thrower]

But our win with scubs against the Brokeback nations starters got us to the Superbowl. Your win was just a win. You can see if affected us so much to this day that no one remembered it until you had to quote it out of your Dallas's best victories book.
Brokeback... how original. Like I said, like several pro football writers said at the time, it was only when the rest of the league was having major problems that the Skins could actually step up and win a Super Bowl. They won it in 83 during the strike, then went back the following year and got CRUSHED with the most lopsided loss in Super Bowl history at the time. Be proud, be real proud. Then they win it 5 years later against Denver during another strike year... who did they beat? Elway and his Broncos... at that time the perpetual Super Bowl whipping posts... yeah, bask in that glory.

[ross3909]

Let's set the way back time machine for 2005...

On Monday Night infront of the entire nation the Cowchips retire the triplets Aikman, Irvin, and Smith. The entire game is a big celebration for the Brokeback Nation until...Santana. 14-13 Shock, disbelief.

Then the second meeting touted as payback time for the Skins. Dallas has a chance to knock the Skins out of the playoffs as well as secure their own place in. 35-7 Shock, disbelief.

The last week of the season the Cowboys have one final chance to make the playoffs if they win and the Skins loose to division rival Eagles in their house...35-21 Final acceptance.

...season over at the hands of your arch enemy.

[ross3909]

Brokeback... how original. Like I said, like several pro football writers said at the time, it was only when the rest of the league was having major problems that the Skins could actually step up and win a Super Bowl. They won it in 83 during the strike, then went back the following year and got CRUSHED with the most lopsided loss in Super Bowl history at the time. Be proud, be real proud. Then they win it 5 years later against Denver during another strike year... who did they beat? Elway and his Broncos... at that time the perpetual Super Bowl whipping posts... yeah, bask in that glory.

If it was so easy to do those years, why didnt the Cowchips do it? Fact is, the Skins system did not rely on stars, as seen in the lack of Hall of Famers from those great teams. The reason why the Skins were able to overcome such adversity when others could not is the system was paramount. We were just a better team. Even better than a Cowboys team that had many of their starters back playing in the playoffs. You can try to rewrite history all you want but there are some of us here that know the truth. And after another year of getting swept by us you will know the truth too. Gibbs is king.

[bubba9497]

Well since the Skins hadn't won a playoff game since '99 before last season... and pretty much was a bottom half team since Gibbs retired in '92 I don't believe we have anything to crow about the past decade either :)

Past history is great (or bad) for memories but little has anything to do with what will happen this season. You can use history for individuals to help make predictions... but no one can tell for sure what the future holds.

[CowboysForLife]

As I see it Tr1 we should be allowed to rant and brag about last season, because if you were to go to the CZ and the shoe was on the other foot you know what they would be saying. "We sweeped the skins blah, blah, blah!"

So DFL, THA, & CFL can all kiss my azz. THA you are correct you are at ES and we dont have to manipulate the 2 wins against you last season. I'm not worried about what happened in the last 10 years. I will rub it in your face as long and as possible to get you guys to see what we felt in that tenure.

I'll take advantage of this oppurtunity, soak in the glory, and relish in the victory! This is our time and if you dont like it go home. Or if you want to enjoy our celebration for years to come sit back and enjoy the ride.

And that, my friend, is what makes you a homer.

[CowboysForLife]

Fact is, our Redskin scabs beat your sorry dallass regulars in a game. Now dispute that fact!
:dallasuck


Haha yeah that was sad.

[Live4Skins]

And that, my friend, is what makes you a homer.


I'm tired of people like yourself who come to our site and title ES fans homers. Come with something stronger than that from the above response I gave you or please stop wasting my and other Es members time reading garbage about your past history of the Cowboys.:doh:

[Live4Skins]

Haha yeah that was sad.


:rolleyes: Shouldnt you be in bed?

[CowboysForLife]

:rolleyes: Shouldnt you be in bed?

Wow, these insults are really getting to my soul...

I'll do you a favor though. Next time I argue any point, I'll give you all the facts you'll need. Does that sound fair? However, if I successfully make my point, don't fall back on stuff.

I will stop commenting on ES' homerism if you guys are willing to accept some of our valid points.

Deal?

[Live4Skins]

Wow, these insults are really getting to my soul...

I'll do you a favor though. Next time I argue any point, I'll give you all the facts you'll need. Does that sound fair? However, if I successfully make my point, don't fall back on stuff.

I will stop commenting on ES' homerism if you guys are willing to accept some of our valid points.

Deal?

Thats all I've ever wanted. I dont care who is wrong or right. Just state the facts as they are and we will do just fine. I never fell back on anything. I clearly stated what was asked in the beginning of this post. I was just defending the attacks from certain people. Thats all.

Although, it is pretty late...:D

Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

[CowboysForLife]

Thats all I've ever wanted. I dont care who is wrong or right. Just state the facts as they are and we will do just fine. I never fell back on anything. I clearly stated what was asked in the beginning of this post. I was just defending the attacks from certain people. Thats all.

Although, it is pretty late...:D

Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

I never said YOU fell back. Just some other posters have fallen back. It was my proclamation to the world. You were just quoted in my proclamation :) .

PS: Give me a break! It's the summer still! :D BTW, I have to read some book called "House Made of Dawn". Did any of you guys read it? I just finished reading East of Eden, and it was a great book, but the first few pages of HMD are boring me to death.

[Live4Skins]

I never said YOU fell back. Just some other posters have fallen back. It was my proclamation to the world. You were just quoted in my proclamation :) .

PS: Give me a break! It's the summer still! :D BTW, I have to read some book called "House Made of Dawn". Did any of you guys read it? I just finished reading East of Eden, and it was a great book, but the first few pages of HMD are boring me to death.

Ok Abraham Lincoln! ;)

I'll let you slide this time but next time I'm telling your parents :D

I've never heard of HMD, but thats possibly why, because its boring.


I'm going to use some of my own medicine and hit the sack. Good night all and remember keep it above the belt:applause:

Peace, HTTR & TITY!!!

[bubba9497]

I'm tired of people like yourself who come to our site and title ES fans homers.




I find it funny that they are ALWAYS oblivious of their own homer-itis :laugh:

they always think their eh... :toilet: don't stink

[CowboysForLife]

I find it funny that they are ALWAYS oblivious of their own homer-itis :laugh:

they always think their eh... :toilet: don't stink

No, my poop doesn't stink...I use dutch apple and spice air freshener, you might think about trying that...:silly:

Actually, I don't think I'm a homer. I even said many times that Washington will get a better record than the Cowboys and even possibly advance to the Conference Finals, while I said that the Cowboys would make the Wild Card, and lose in the Divisional Round AT BEST.

Unless you get a major injury, I can't see you guys losing the Division Crown. Here's to three great Dallas-Washington matchups next season :cool: . That is to say, I'd love to see Dallas rub everything in Washington's face. I hate Washington, but I've got enough respect for the Redskins to expect a fierce team. If you guys get swept by us though, I will be happy, don't get me wrong.

[bubba9497]

No, my poop doesn't stink...I use dutch apple and spice air freshener, you might think about trying that...:silly:

Actually, I don't think I'm a homer. I even said many times that Washington will get a better record than the Cowboys and even possibly advance to the Conference Finals, while I said that the Cowboys would make the Wild Card, and lose in the Divisional Round AT BEST.

Unless you get a major injury, I can't see you guys losing the Division Crown. Here's to three great Dallas-Washington matchups next season :cool: . That is to say, I'd love to see Dallas rub everything in Washington's face. I hate Washington, but I've got enough respect for the Redskins to expect a fierce team. If you guys get swept by us though, I will be happy, don't get me wrong.


see, no one thinks "they" are a homer. Just because you think Washington will win the division doesn't mean you're a homer... heck no one here thought realistically the Skins were going to win the NFC East before gibbs return, since well Gibbs left :D


one of the 1st sign of being a homer, is calling someone else a homer when they don't see everything the way you do, about your own team, or your team compared to theirs.

example, I have stated several times I think the pokes will finish third, and finish around 8-8 or below... and give detailed reasons why I feel that way. All these pokes fans, despite my detailed reasons, immediately start calling me a homer, saying I just hate the cowboys is the only reason I am saying this... not that they disagree and here's why.... but then when some sportswriter will write a bad article about the Redskins, and skins fans get all in a tizzy, these same poke fans (who had the EXACT same reaction to my opinions), go in and start calling everyone Homers because they don't agree with, or can't see the sportswriters opinion... :laugh:

and there are many other things they do... but you get my point.

[CowboysForLife]

see, no one thinks "they" are a homer. Just because you think Washington will win the division doesn't mean you're a homer... heck no one here thought realistically the Skins were going to win the NFC East before gibbs return, since well Gibbs left :D


one of the 1st sign of being a homer, is calling someone else a homer when they don't see everything the way you do, about your own team, or your team compared to theirs.

example, I have stated several times I think the pokes will finish third, and finish around 8-8 or below... and give detailed reasons why I feel that way. All these pokes fans, despite my detailed reasons, immediately start calling me a homer, saying I just hate the cowboys is the only reason I am saying this... not that they disagree and here's why.... but then when some sportswriter will write a bad article about the Redskins, and skins fans get all in a tizzy, these same poke fans (who had the EXACT same reaction to my opinions), go in and start calling everyone Homers because they don't agree with, or can't see the sportswriters opinion... :laugh:

and there are many other things they do... but you get my point.

Did I ever argue with your predictions?

Sportswriters these days are mostly hacks. For example, in the dallas media, this lady known as "the little ball of hate" wrote an article about how she'd give TO a "clean slate", and in that SAME article, proceeded to bash him in every way possible.

The thing is, the media sees TO as a timebomb who'll blow up immediately (most of it, anyway), and its just getting repetitive. Correct or not, they're all saying the exact same thing, "BP has no control over this team", "TO already signalled the end of his time in Dallas", crap like that.

The media shows hate towards the Redskins also. The Redskins' past FA endeavours (sp?) haven't really been hits until Gibbs came. Now Gibbs came, and they get Free Agents, but still writers discredit the Redskins' pickups.

These are the times I wish the media would just shut up and let them show us what they've got.

To tell you the truth, I am excited about this team. Lots of our rooks have improved a great deal. I however, think we are far from a Super Bowl.

[turbodiesel#44]

That would make Owens unhappy, which may end up requiring another book to explain whatever fallout that may trigger.

I hope he doesn't misquote himself this time.



And Dallas has been won 3 Super Bowls since the skins have sniffed an NFC championship game.... so what? Do you really want to do the history thing? :(

That reminds me one year you guys won the SB. I think Norv had two wins that year, but they were both against Americas Team, making it not the worst of seasons Yeah, we owned the SB champs. They even put a disclaimer plaque on the bottom of the trophy that year. Look for yourself. You should Fed-Ex us your rings from that year.

What year was that? Or was it a dream?

[scruffylookin]

Brokeback... how original. Like I said, like several pro football writers said at the time, it was only when the rest of the league was having major problems that the Skins could actually step up and win a Super Bowl. They won it in 83 during the strike, then went back the following year and got CRUSHED with the most lopsided loss in Super Bowl history at the time. Be proud, be real proud. Then they win it 5 years later against Denver during another strike year... who did they beat? Elway and his Broncos... at that time the perpetual Super Bowl whipping posts... yeah, bask in that glory.

Garbage.

So the entire NFL had problems in 1982 EXCEPT the Redskins and that is why they won? BS

The Redskins faced the same hurdles as everyone else. You act like they had to play 9 games while the rest of the league played 16 or something. The Redskins were the best team in football in 1982 and won 12 games and lost just once. That 12-1 record is as good or better than most of the teams crowned World Champion by the NFL in it's history.

1983 they legitimized their title of 1982 by steamrolling the entire league.
"No Danny No" :dallasuck
They got too full of themselves and the Raiders pasted them...it happens.

1987, showed how great the Redskins ORGANIZATION was by being able to find decent replacement players and then having one of the greatest coaches in history pull them together and win 2 games (vs. Cardinals and at Cowboys) against teams that had a number of "regular" players. How that cannot be viewed with anything other than awe and admiration is beyond me.

As for the Broncos being a "whipping boy" at that time, I guess it's no different than the 2 Bills teams the Cowboys "whipped" in the 90's. They're known for being a 4 time SB loser.

Bottom line, it's a FACT that the Cowboys have been a laughingstock for a decade now. They don't make the playoffs and when they do they can't win. I mean they lost to the lowly Cardinals on their home field. That was the first playoff win by the Cardinals franchise in what 40 years? As far as I'm concerned that alone pretty much should shut up and self respecting Cowboy fan.

The Redskins have WON two playoff games since 1999 and while it's nothing to brag about, winning 2 playoff games is a hell of alot more impressive than anything the Cowboys have managed to accomplish in the last 10 years.

When the Arizona Cardinals can laugh at you, you know you've had a bad decade.

:dallasuck

[Henry]

I hate the offseason.

[CowboysForLife]

I hate the offseason.

Same here. We always argue wholeheartedly about random things :laugh:

[TD_washingtonredskins]

Brokeback... how original. Like I said, like several pro football writers said at the time, it was only when the rest of the league was having major problems that the Skins could actually step up and win a Super Bowl. They won it in 83 during the strike, then went back the following year and got CRUSHED with the most lopsided loss in Super Bowl history at the time. Be proud, be real proud. Then they win it 5 years later against Denver during another strike year... who did they beat? Elway and his Broncos... at that time the perpetual Super Bowl whipping posts... yeah, bask in that glory.

I'm just curious (this is my way of gauging your objectivity) to hear your opinion of the 1991 Redskins. You seem to have the 1982 and 1987 championship teams figured out...I'd like to hear what you think the "excuse" for the Redskins winning in 1991 is.

Thanks.

[dallasfanforlife]

I'm just curious (this is my way of gauging your objectivity) to hear your opinion of the 1991 Redskins. You seem to have the 1982 and 1987 championship teams figured out...I'd like to hear what you think the "excuse" for the Redskins winning in 1991 is.

Thanks.


I know i am finished with this thread somewhat, but ill answer this one.....

They were way better then all the other teams in the NFL. The Skins had a great team.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I know i am finished with this thread somewhat, but ill answer this one.....

They were way better then all the other teams in the NFL. The Skins had a great team.

OK, I just wanted to see who was capable of objectivity.

For example, I can rip some Cowboy teams, but I would come off looking silly if I called their dynasty in the early-mid 1990s a fluke.

[dallasfanforlife]

OK, I just wanted to see who was capable of objectivity.

For example, I can rip some Cowboy teams, but I would come off looking silly if I called their dynasty in the early-mid 1990s a fluke.


for the record, i would never call it a fluke. I know some of my fellowl Boys fan's have that opinion,. and thats cool, but for the record, the Skins won it in 82, but had an even better team in 83 and lost in the SB. That has to tell you that they were legit.

1987 team won 11 games out of 15 and beat a good Chicago team, the chokers that season was the 49ers....

so whatever, the skins have 3 legit SB's and the Boys have 5. BUT i will say this out of all of them the 92&93 Dallas teams would whip them all!! :silly:

[TD_washingtonredskins]

for the record, i would never call it a fluke. I know some of my fellowl Boys fan's have that opinion,. and thats cool, but for the record, the Skins won it in 82, but had an even better team in 83 and lost in the SB. That has to tell you that they were legit.

1987 team won 11 games out of 15 and beat a good Chicago team, the chokers that season was the 49ers....

so whatever, the skins have 3 legit SB's and the Boys have 5. BUT i will say this out of all of them the 92&93 Dallas teams would whip them all!! :silly:

Well, it's tough to argue that last point. I will say that the 1991 Skins team seemed like a perfect team. I'll tell you one thing though, I'm glad they didn't have to beat Dallas to go to the Super Bowl that year (thank you Detroit). Obviously, they could have beaten the Cowboys in DC to make it, but it just would have been MUCH tougher to do.

As for the 1991 Skins vs. the 1992 Cowboys...that would be an epic game.

[dallasfanforlife]

Well, it's tough to argue that last point. I will say that the 1991 Skins team seemed like a perfect team. I'll tell you one thing though, I'm glad they didn't have to beat Dallas to go to the Super Bowl that year (thank you Detroit). Obviously, they could have beaten the Cowboys in DC to make it, but it just would have been MUCH tougher to do.

As for the 1991 Skins vs. the 1992 Cowboys...that would be an epic game.

You know what, Detroit destroyed Dallas that year, Barry went nuts. And then in Barry fashion he laid an egg vs the Skins. The Redskins that year were very good, and Dallas needed that whoppen from Detriot to get a spark for the next couple of season. At the time i hated the fact that we lost to Detriot and i watched the Skins roll on to the SB, but hindsight tells me thank God we lst to Detriot, cause i really do feel that Skins fans would be saying "we are 3-0 vs Dallas in NFC title games"...

But also if the 49er's would not have beaten the Skins in 92, then The Skins would have been coming to Dallas for a butt whippen and it'd be 2-1...in NFC Title games..........all ifs and but's, but in the end all that can really be said 15 years later is Did Buff. really lose four SB's in a row to NFC East teams? :laugh: thank God i am not a Bills fan.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

You know what, Detroit destroyed Dallas that year, Barry went nuts. And then in Barry fashion he laid an egg vs the Skins. The Redskins that year were very good, and Dallas needed that whoppen from Detriot to get a spark for the next couple of season. At the time i hated the fact that we lost to Detriot and i watched the Skins roll on to the SB, but hindsight tells me thank God we lst to Detriot, cause i really do feel that Skins fans would be saying "we are 3-0 vs Dallas in NFC title games"...

But also if the 49er's would not have beaten the Skins in 92, then The Skins would have been coming to Dallas for a butt whippen and it'd be 2-1...in NFC Title games..........all ifs and but's, but in the end all that can really be said 15 years later is Did Buff. really lose four SB's in a row to NFC East teams? :laugh: thank God i am not a Bills fan.

I think you're right about how both hypothetical NFC Championship games probably would have turned out.

And you're definitely correct about NOT being a Bills fan!!!

:billsuck:

[dallasfanforlife]

And you're definitely correct about NOT being a Bills fan!!!

:billsuck:


:laugh: I know some Bills fans, and its painfull...but hey they have Losman.....:laugh:

[TD_washingtonredskins]

:laugh: I know some Bills fans, and its painfull...but hey they have Losman.....:laugh:

I guess you have to hang your hat on something.

But look on the even brighter side, instead of losing 4 Super Bowls, they could have lost 3 straight NFC title games (2 at home) and THEN a Super Bowl... :laugh:

:eaglesuck

I figured there'd be SOMETHING we could both agree on.

[RedskinsNation]

I love how people and in this case some ignorant Cowboy fans try to taint the 2 SB's we won during strike shortened years.

Did Dallas not play that year? Did they take the season off? If i recall that year they had every opportunity to win games...just like the rest of the teams. They didnt, the Redskins did. So i guess its our fault?

Didnt we send a bunch of scabs to Dallas to play "the boys" while they had their starting QB and a few other players who crossed the line...didnt we win that game? NUFF' SAID.

Surely it was the REDSKINS fault a player strike occurred and scabs played 3 games. Still boiled down to players playing and coaches coaching.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I love how people and in this case some ignorant Cowboy fans try to taint the 2 SB's we won during strike shortened years.

Did Dallas not play that year? Did they take the season off? If i recall that year they had every opportunity to win games...just like the rest of the teams. They didnt, the Redskins did. So i guess its our fault?

Didnt we send a bunch of scabs to Dallas to play "the boys" while they had their starting QB and a few other players who crossed the line...didnt we win that game? NUFF' SAID.

Surely it was the REDSKINS fault a player strike occurred and scabs played 3 games. Still boiled down to players playing and coaches coaching.

I agree with you (as do objective fans of all teams).

The fact is, both seasons had a normal or expanded playoff system which essentially eliminated any advantage a team could have gained during the strike-shortened regular season. Therefore, any team that made the playoffs had a shot to win themselves a championship and the Skins did it.

It's not like scabs won us games in December or January or we got automatic byes or anything. In 1982, despite a superior record, we had to win 3 games to get to the Super Bowl. In 1987, we had to win on the road before getting a home game (thanks to SF losing to Minnesota) to get to the Super Bowl.

The year we had everything go our way in the playoffs was 1991 (when realistically it wouldn't have mattered who we played) when we got to play Atlanta and Detroit (two passing teams) in tough, January weather at RFK!

[dallasfanforlife]

I love how people and in this case some ignorant Cowboy fans try to taint the 2 SB's we won during strike shortened years.

Did Dallas not play that year? Did they take the season off? If i recall that year they had every opportunity to win games...just like the rest of the teams. They didnt, the Redskins did. So i guess its our fault?

Didnt we send a bunch of scabs to Dallas to play "the boys" while they had their starting QB and a few other players who crossed the line...didnt we win that game? NUFF' SAID.

Surely it was the REDSKINS fault a player strike occurred and scabs played 3 games. Still boiled down to players playing and coaches coaching.


as a Dallas fan, thats fair, I agree man.......The 82 Skins were the real deal. The 87 Skins are legit SB winner, just fortunite that the 49ers choked.....But you have my vote for legit titles...not that you care.

[TD_washingtonredskins]

as a Dallas fan, thats fair, I agree man.......The 82 Skins were the real deal. The 87 Skins are legit SB winner, just fortunite that the 49ers choked.....But you have my vote for legit titles...not that you care.

Most objective Cowboy fan ever!