WP: Knicks Sign Jeffries to an Offer Sheet

[RedskinPride27]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/28/AR2006072801323.html

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"The New York Knicks signed restricted free agent guard/forward Jared Jeffries to an offer sheet this afternoon, according to NBA sources.

The Washington Wizards will have seven days to decide whether to match the offer. Team owner Abe Pollin, president of basketball operations Ernie Grunfeld and coach Eddie Jordan have all indicated a desire to retain Jeffries.

Terms of the offer sheet were not available..."

[Kevin101]

JJ aint going anywhere.

[Warhead36]

Not surprised. Can't say if we'll match it or not until we hear the terms.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Knowing the knicks, and knowing how Grunfeld said they will match any offer thats an MLE, I'm pretty sure its a ridiculous offer. It might be comparable to Butlers. Maybe I'm wrong but I just have a feeling.

[SantanaClaus89]

I gotta bad feeling it's a pretty sweet offer too... especially coming from the Knicks. Hopefully it's not big enough that we can't match it. I'd like to see JJ remain in Washington he was by far our most versitale and committed player when it came to defense... something the team as a whole was lacking the last couple of years.

[fixer26er]

The Knicks are over the cap, all they can offer is the MLE. It's probably a little more than what Songaila got.

[LiveStrongSkins]

The Knicks are over the cap, all they can offer is the MLE. It's probably a little more than what Songaila got.

If so, JJ just killed himself financially. A big year this year would have allowed him to sign anywhere he wanted and a decent year would have landed him a big pay day. Now we can retain his services for cheap hopefully if this is the case. Part of me still thinks the knicks threw a little more then that at him though.

[fixer26er]

Part of me still thinks the knicks threw a little more then that at him though.

The most they can offer this year is 5.2 mil

[mojobo]

why the knicks? just sign the tenure offer and wait until next year to get your big pay. dont understand this for jeffries.

[XxSpearheadxX]

The most they can offer this year is 5.2 mil


Thats not just the most they can offer this year, thats the most any year of the contract can be total, up to 5 years. Nowhere near Butler money.


Now... if we could get a sign and trade for David Lee and a 2nd rounder, I would be very happy...

Do "offer sheets" occur pre-sign and trade? I didn't think they did, but I dunno.


why the knicks? just sign the tenure offer and wait until next year to get your big pay. dont understand this for jeffries.

Unlike NBA stars, guys like Jeffries have to weigh the possibility of bad play/injuries into such things. Lebron, Wade, Melo even Bosh have some semblance of marketing pay plus their contracts are much more.

If Jeffries signs the one year tender and tears an ACL, or even hurts himself like Jarvis did and is out for the season - he will be "ruined" financially compared to a 5 years 25 million dollar contract.

[bulldog]

Thomas is the worst GM in the NBA.

Jeffries is never going to be more than a complementary player in the NBA and the Knicks don't have the kind of talent where Jeffries contributions will be worth the money they give him.

Now, on a team like the Spurs or Suns in the West Jeffries could be a VERY valuable player.

Instead of just taking the pain for a couple of years and rebuilding through the draft, Thomas keeps looking for the quick fix, a la Eddie Curry.

[XxSpearheadxX]

Thomas is the worst GM in the NBA.

Jeffries is never going to be more than a complementary player in the NBA and the Knicks don't have the kind of talent where Jeffries contributions will be worth the money they give him.

Now, on a team like the Spurs or Suns in the West Jeffries could be a VERY valuable player.

Instead of just taking the pain for a couple of years and rebuilding through the draft, Thomas keeps looking for the quick fix, a la Eddie Curry.

SHHHH! Be quiet, he might hear you! You'll ruin everything!

[SantanaClaus89]

I suppose we could match the OS and see how bad they really want him by trying to trade for Lee....

[Newera]

With the Emergence of Blatche, we may not match if it is crazy!

[LiveStrongSkins]

I might get flamed on this site but I would take Lee over Jeffries in a heartbeat.

[CrazyZeb]

As a Bulls fan not wanting the Knicks to improve at all, please match.

[RedskinPride27]

Looks like the Knicks are using their full midlevel exception:

"Restricted free agent Jared Jeffries signed an offer sheet with the New York Knicks yesterday, according to NBA sources. The offer covers five years and is worth around $30 million and uses the Knicks' mid-level exception -- a first-year salary of $5.2 million."

From the new, more detailed article on the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/28/AR2006072801323.html

[LiveStrongSkins]

Looks like the Knicks are using their full midlevel exception:

"Restricted free agent Jared Jeffries signed an offer sheet with the New York Knicks yesterday, according to NBA sources. The offer covers five years and is worth around $30 million and uses the Knicks' mid-level exception -- a first-year salary of $5.2 million."

From the new, more detailed article on the Washington Post:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/28/AR2006072801323.html

I guess he already bit himself in the ass. He turned down a bigger contract offer from us only to balk and sign a smaller one with the knicks?!?! Are you kidding me. What an idiot. Now the wizards can keep him at a reduced rate if they want to. Wow. His agent must have seriously overvalued his client.

[luckydevil]

How about this gem

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/29/sports/basketball/29knicks.html


Jeffries is determined to leave the Wizards, according to his agent, Andy Miller.

“Our expectation would be that they’d understand Jared has made a decision to move on and would like to do so,” Miller said last night. “We recognize they have a right to match. But hopefully, they take into consideration some of the human factors of it. In Jared’s mind, he’d be better suited playing in New York and playing for the Knicks.”



Good, I am glad he wants out. He is not worth the money. I don't want another Etan type contract ( a contract that we will regret)

[LiveStrongSkins]

How about this gem

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/29/sports/basketball/29knicks.html



Good, I am glad he wants out. He is not worth the money. I don't want another Etan type contract ( a contract that we will regret)

His agent is really stupid. You would think he would want to avoid burning bridges in case the Wizards decide it is the better business decision to match. Let him take his 6 points and 4 rebounds off to the joke that is New York. I think he is feeling the heat from Blatche. Let his ass go and sign Stevenson.

Arenas
Stevenson
Butler
Jamison
Haywood

[RonArtest15]

I might get flamed on this site but I would take Lee over Jeffries in a heartbeat.

co-sign x100! The emergence of Blatche, and the signing of Songalia kinda ease the pain of this signing....When we drafted JJ in the lottery, did we expect him to top out at 6/4? The only thing I wish, was that we did a S&T and got either Q-Rich or Lee....

[twenty-eight]

Restricted free agent Jared Jeffries signed an offer sheet with the New York Knicks yesterday, according to NBA sources. The offer covers five years and is worth around $30 million and uses the Knicks' mid-level exception -- a first-year salary of $5.2 million

[DonMagicJuan]

How about this gem

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/29/sports/basketball/29knicks.html



Good, I am glad he wants out. He is not worth the money. I don't want another Etan type contract ( a contract that we will regret)

that just means that he doesnt wanna be here, so let him go...if he doenst wanna be here, then screw him...let him go!

[clathel]

Good Bye!
I will cry crocodile tears for his loss....
or our gain.

[autographcollector]

I don't see anything in Jefferies worth keeping. Move on.

[GoSkinsGo]

Let him go, his lack of an offensive game will become a whole more visible without Gil and Antwan around to draw attention.

I always hope Jeffries would become a more complete player but it doesn't look that is going to happen. Let him walk to that blackhole that Isiah has created.

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

The last time the Wizards matched a rediculous offer to a sub-par player they got stuck with Etan Thomas and his horrid contract. I say let Jeffries walk and have a nice time losing in N.Y. It won't affect the Wizards any.

[Sonny Joe Hog]

I agree with the last several posters. First, if he doesn't want to be here, keeping him would be a mistake. If he were to have a bad attitude next season, it could affect his play and team "chemistry". Second, I don't think I'd want to sign him for 5 years. We need to get more physical as a team, so I'd let him go and try to acquire a banger.

[Maggio]

co-sign x100! The emergence of Blatche, and the signing of Songalia kinda ease the pain of this signing....When we drafted JJ in the lottery, did we expect him to top out at 6/4? The only thing I wish, was that we did a S&T and got either Q-Rich or Lee....

I doubt we could get Lee, but we could front like we are going to match the offer and at least squeeze a second round pick out of Isiah...that sounds like something he would do.

I hope we don't match, we need to change the makeup of this team somehow b/c its not firing on all cylinders. I would prefer to trade Etan or Haywood for another big, but if it means getting rid of JJ, so be it. I mean, he wasn't that great of a defender and had one hell of a line drive jumper:doh: . He would have been a great second round pick, not at 11.

[Warhead36]

Don't let the door hit you on the way out JJ.

[jtyler42]

I'd be glad for JJ to leave...Him leaving opens the door for OP to stay or our signing of Deshawn Stevenson...A real SG...

[flash22]

do the wiz get a compensation pic like they do in the nfl

[mojobo]

I doubt we could get Lee, but we could front like we are going to match the offer and at least squeeze a second round pick out of Isiah...that sounds like something he would do.

knowing how good the knicks are if we do squeeze a second round pick that pick might wind up being higher than our first rounder:cheers:

[Warhead36]

do the wiz get a compensation pic like they do in the nfl

Na, but it's not like the Knicks have a compensation pick to give us anyway :laugh:

[Skinned]

I don't think trades are possible at this point. Once the offer sheet is signed, it's match or don't match.

[Funkyalligator]

I am so glad that a team offered a contract to JJ...I didn't want to see him stay here....he never panned out as a nba player and is only a decent role player off the bench...he can't shoot to save his life and even misses layups...I for one am real glad to see him gone so we can give more time to our younger players

[redskinedwizard]

im so confused right now. i want him to stay but then i dont cuz he disrespected my city by saying he wants out, plus it would help the rotation with him out

[Skinned]

Thomas is the worst GM in the NBA.

Jeffries is never going to be more than a complementary player in the NBA and the Knicks don't have the kind of talent where Jeffries contributions will be worth the money they give him.

Now, on a team like the Spurs or Suns in the West Jeffries could be a VERY valuable player.

Instead of just taking the pain for a couple of years and rebuilding through the draft, Thomas keeps looking for the quick fix, a la Eddie Curry.

You nailed it. The Knicks are morons for adding another big salary for a player that is only a role player and one who won't make enough of a contribution on a losing club to make a difference.

[Mooka]

I'd be glad for JJ to leave...Him leaving opens the door for OP to stay or our signing of Deshawn Stevenson...A real SG... No, we don't have money to sign any more decent FA's.

We are allowed to match the Knicks offer and pay a luxary tax.

[XxSpearheadxX]

Sign and trade though is very much a possibility with any other 2 guard, including Deshawn.

Hey, is it true that Jeffries turned down an offer from the Wiz that was worth more than the knicks offer? It said that in the Post article, but that doesn't make sense. Oh well...

I'm so sick of our lotto picks sucking, I hope Jarvis gets back to his previous never getting injured thing, these last 2 years have stunk I feel bad for him... but still.

When I hear JJ's agent talk about how he "Sacrificed his offensive game for his teammates and it isn't being recognized in DC" I want to :puke:

Yeah JJ you missed all those layups and dunks just to let Gilbert have all the glory :rolleyes:

[Jesus, Mary & Joe Gibbs]

When I hear JJ's agent talk about how he "Sacrificed his offensive game for his teammates and it isn't being recognized in DC" I want to :puke:

Yeah JJ you missed all those layups and dunks just to let Gilbert have all the glory :rolleyes:

Hold up! He said that shyt? :laugh:

[CurseReversed]

good defensive players like him are hard to find but if he doesnt want to be here let him go. I do see a lot of promise and think he might be worth that contract though

[skinfan2k]

in the words of michael reghi, see you later!!!!!!!!

[arenasisgod]

Part of me wants to be upset, because I though Jared showed some signs of breaking into something special last year. He had some excellent blocks, some nice rebound slams, etc. I wanted him to sign the offer sheet and stay around for 2006-07. But I also wouldn't want the team to get stuck with an Isiah contract for the sake of continuity.

Then again, Jared was nver quintessential to this squad.

[XxSpearheadxX]

Part of me wants to be upset, because I though Jared showed some signs of breaking into something special last year. He had some excellent blocks, some nice rebound slams, etc. I wanted him to sign the offer sheet and stay around for 2006-07. But I also wouldn't want the team to get stuck with an Isiah contract for the sake of continuity.

Then again, Jared was nver quintessential to this squad.


I feel the same way. The one thing that always bothered me about JJ was he was just missing... I dunno... that "thing" that lets someone take it to the rack and dunk on someone.

Now I don't mean he couldn't dunk, but he just was wierd around the hoop, I could reall care less about his jump shooting, because with his quickness and vertical leap he should be able to take it to the hoop over anyone.

Instead he takes it to the hoop like steve nash, all ducking and twisting and puttinig english spin on the ball. Not necessary when you are pushing 7 feet and can jump through the roof.

I mean really Jared dropped 3 alley-oops for every one he made, and always because he was worried about contact.

He is so coordinated but really I think he needs a therapist or he needs to go down to South East with Gil and play some ball or something - he is gonna be a bust in NYC I know it, they will not have the patience up there that we DCers have down here.

Lord knows we have patience...

[Bugs']

I'd be glad for JJ to leave...Him leaving opens the door for OP to stay or our signing of Deshawn Stevenson...A real SG...

I hear what a lot of you are saying, but I think our team will be worse for not having Jared Jefferies than better. He was our best defender and at 6'11 could bring the ball up which is great in the type of offense we run.

I would of been for matching the offer until I heard he wants to go. If he wants to go let him go.

[Newera]

We should match! It's cheaper! LOL

[Newera]

He'll get over it -- trust me!!!

[Newera]

You can always look to trade him later.

[ImmortalDragon]

I say we let him go. This way Caron can play SF full time and hopefully Jarvis can back him up.

Anyone ever wonder where the Knicks get all this money?

[XxSpearheadxX]

I hear what a lot of you are saying, but I think our team will be worse for not having Jared Jefferies than better. He was our best defender and at 6'11 could bring the ball up which is great in the type of offense we run.

I would of been for matching the offer until I heard he wants to go. If he wants to go let him go.


Yeah and the match has an enormous trade kicker that would make him all but untradeable if we matched. Oh well.

Stupid cowboys fan.


I say we let him go. This way Caron can play SF full time and hopefully Jarvis can back him up.

Anyone ever wonder where the Knicks get all this money?

Cable TV.

[Burgold]

Yeah and the match has an enormous trade kicker that would make him all but untradeable if we matched. Oh well.

Stupid cowboys fan.



Cable TV.

For some reason, I had this flash of Homer Simpson saying... Stupid Flanders... when you said Stupid Cowboys fan.

If you want to be great you don't match, it will tie up too much money. If you want to be good, you will match. Jefferies has proven he can be a useful component, but not dependable... he also has tasted success with the Wizards and is signing for a team projected to be sinking (or sunk) for less money. That doesn't indicate the drive to win or to be a champion. It reeks of selfishness. Only the truly great deserve to be selfish.

[XxSpearheadxX]

Well in the hope of accuracy, I would suggest reading all my posts as if Homer Simpson were the author.

It will lead to a much more accurate view of me. Stupid Cowboys fan.



When I'm kicking you it means go faster!

[Funkyalligator]

He is gone.....I really hope that Grunfield doesn't match the salary...not worth the money at all.....

[clathel]

EG likes big untalented tweeners....See how he keeps Etan, might keep JJ, among others....I think Caron was a trade EG expected to go south fast and was trying to harpoon us but CB turned out great. I also think Magloire was easy to get done but we refused because it might bring a talented big to our team. I honestly dont think think he wants this team to succeed too much. Why play for championships when just playing in a round of the playoffs can get your fanbase looking forward to the next year?

[XxSpearheadxX]

You know I was thinking about JJ's deal and why he would want to go to NY, they never mentioned whether our deal included a trade kicker also.


I really think that is what pissed JJ off, the fact that he couldn't get a deal that would all but guarantee that he wouldn't get traded.

[XxSpearheadxX]

Hold up! He said that shyt? :laugh:


Yeah it was early on in the process in some Post article... around the same time the same agent said that Brendan Haywood wouldnt' be able to work things out in DC.

That agent sounds like a total douche.

[LiveStrongSkins]

Again, JJ's defense is not at all what people think. He is not a shutdown defender in the least bit and is soft as charmin. The only reason people think his defense is good is because he moves faster then the average slow footed 6'11 player. People talk about his handles... what does that translate to? Assists? Layups? It hasnt his whole career. A good 6'11 defender rebounds... where are his? Like I said, Blatche will match his production in half the minutes. Bye Jared!

[Maggio]

What's the deal with the no trade clause in JJ's contract. Is it just a no trade clause or is it a heavy financial penalty if he is traded?? I was just thinking if he wants out of NY so bad and does not want to be a Wizard, then we should match and get him to waive the trade clause. Then, at least we get something in return. Also, he would be more attractive to potential suitors because he's locked up for five years at a very cheap price.