$35 a game to park gets us what?

[RedskinsDave]

We are now paying $10 more per game and nothing has changed. Actually, that's wrong. The added jons that were out in post-Snyder chat have disappeared. It's actually pretty funny because the people parked next to me last night noticed it too. There aren't more trash bins. The former charcoal bins are gone too.

I am just wondering what exactly we are getting in return for our 40% increase?

[PleaseGoForTheWin]

A shuttle bus that takes two hours to get you back to your lot?

[skinfan2k]

not really. if u guys aren't lazy enough to walk from the stadium to the cash lots.

[autographcollector]

If you don't like it stay home....just my two cents, someone else from the waiting list will buy your tix.

[PleaseGoForTheWin]

not really. if u guys aren't lazy enough to walk from the stadium to the cash lots.

Well, I'm from Cleveland and don't know the area or facility. My first time there (last year for the Bears game) was pretty dreadful. The whole place was gridlock, and we were standing out in the sun for two hours waiting to get ON the bus. Once IN the bus, it took nearly another hour.

It's not an issue of laziness.

[autographcollector]

Well, I'm from Cleveland and don't know the area or facility. My first time there (last year for the Bears game) was pretty dreadful. The whole place was gridlock, and we were standing out in the sun for two hours waiting to get ON the bus. Once IN the bus, it took nearly another hour.

It's not an issue of laziness.

With the closing of the Capital Center, and the routes in and out of the stadium, its not easily resolved....

[skinfan2k]

not talking to u in particular, but alot of people moan and groan.. there are alot of ways in and out of fedex field.

[RedskinsDave]

If you don't like it stay home....just my two cents, someone else from the waiting list will buy your tix.

This is my favorite mindless lemming comment. If you don't like getting ripped off, someone else will. :rolleyes:

[Tastes Like Chicken]

Well, you could park at the Landover metro station, take the $5 roundtrip shuttle to FedEx gate A, then walk around to the ES tailgate. That's my plan for the Ravens game (couldn't make it to yesterday's tailgate unfortunately).

[HailToTheRedskins!]

someone else from the waiting list will buy your tix.

ooh, ooh...pick me! pick me! :excited:

[roqnap1]

That's why I don't tailgate anymore. No conveniences. Why put up port-a-potties when you can add a parking space or two. I got tired of the smell of urine from people just going in the trees.

I get there an hour before kickoff...plenty of parking left every time. Walk straight to the stadium...plenty of bathrooms in there.

Snyder did take all of the fun out of tailgating. And it shows in the crowd. Kinda sad.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

$10 is nothing supply and demand people are paying $900 for the season on Ebay. Complain, Complain, Complain be happy you have a parking pass and have to spend $35 dollars 8-10 times a year :doh:

[sith lord]

If you don't like it stay home....just my two cents, someone else from the waiting list will buy your tix.

No offense, but that's a lame response. It doesn't affect me, but $35 to park seems a bit expensive.

[Mark The Homer]

Yes, there were portajohns missing big time. I presume it's only a pre-season thing, and the missing johns will be back Sept 11th.

[ragemdw]

That's why I don't tailgate anymore. No conveniences. Why put up port-a-potties when you can add a parking space or two. I got tired of the smell of urine from people just going in the trees.

I get there an hour before kickoff...plenty of parking left every time. Walk straight to the stadium...plenty of bathrooms in there.

Snyder did take all of the fun out of tailgating. And it shows in the crowd. Kinda sad.



Now Now I wouldnt blame Danny boy. He didnt build the Stadium were its at. He didnt put it in the middle of PG County where there is not enough area for parking and the metro to the stadium was not existent. Yes he did build the extra seats, but it was a problem before that. I know that I better give myself enough time to ride the bus over.

For me its all worth it to see the Skins play. There is nothing like being at the stadium, I can handle the price to park. Its worth it to me to be there!!

Things would go alot smoother if ppl had a great thing called patience. Ppl are generally *******s and need to understand the situation, know where they are going, stay in their lane, and follow the direction of the ppl out there trying to make it as easy as possible.

The only suggestion I would have is to make a bus only lane. This would help the shuttles to and fro and would make for quicker bus trips and I think in the long run an easier experience getting in and out of the stadium.

[RiggoReincarnated]

Where were all the fans yesterday, there were tons of empty seats?

[Stonoman]

Pay it and move on!!!!

[Isifhan]

The added jons that were out in post-Snyder chat have disappeared.

Well...go back to the chat with Dan Snyder, find the person that he said to email about the Port-a-Johns and send them another email about it. Last time if I remember correctly the problem was solved fairly quickly.

[skinfan2k]

synder has u guys wrapped around his fingers.. we all know there will be another price increase next year or the year after.. what constitutes the increase? people not minding to pay more money to park a freaking car

[autographcollector]

This is my favorite mindless lemming comment. If you don't like getting ripped off, someone else will. :rolleyes:

Mindless lemming??? :laugh:

If you don't like what he charges don't go. If you think your getting some kind of benefit from parking increases, then that is an issue you need to resolve within. What you get is high paid coaches, players and hopefully a superbowl or at least a fielded team that can challenge for one.

Prices will rise until the market won't bear it anymore...so far your still paying it.

[hanster]

Mindless lemming??? :laugh:

If you don't like what he charges don't go. If you think your getting some kind of benefit from parking increases, then that is an issue you need to resolve within. What you get is high paid coaches, players and hopefully a superbowl or at least a fielded team that can challenge for one.

Prices will rise until the market won't bear it anymore...so far your still paying it.

It is people just like you that are so naive that we end up paying the prices we do. I am not struggling financially but some of the diehard fans can no longer afford to go to games but people like you don't care anyway.

[autographcollector]

No offense, but that's a lame response. It doesn't affect me, but $35 to park seems a bit expensive.

What should he charge, while still bringing in every coach, and free agent. That is how he runs the team. What should he change his parking costs too and still be able to freely sign anyone he wants?

Lame response, its a true response. He is in a business to make money. He is at least spending a fortune too. Not like he is a gready owner not putting money INTO the team.

[RiggoReincarnated]

Mindless lemming??? :laugh:

If you don't like what he charges don't go. If you think your getting some kind of benefit from parking increases, then that is an issue you need to resolve within. What you get is high paid coaches, players and hopefully a superbowl or at least a fielded team that can challenge for one.

Prices will rise until the market won't bear it anymore...so far your still paying it.


Snyder is suppossed to be a Core Redskin, one who grew up as a Redskin fan.

As such he should be more sensitive to the needs of Core Redskin fans, plain and simple.

[autographcollector]

It is people just like you that are so naive that we end up paying the prices we do. I am not struggling financially but some of the diehard fans can no longer afford to go to games but people like you don't care anyway.

Look I don't have season tickets because I chose not to pay that expense. I am not naive. I see the prices are terrible. I had my chance for row 28 in the 400 level and I turned them down. Naive is thinking you are not getting anything for your $35. What you got is Saunders, Randel El, Lloyd, etc.

What do you think he should do? Make people give him their financial statements, and sell cheap tickets and parking to those financially unable to go? That's naive.

[autographcollector]

Snyder is suppossed to be a Core Redskin, one who grew up as a Redskin fan.

As such he should be more sensitive to the needs of Core Redskin fans, plain and simple.

What does that mean? Didn't he do that by bringing back gibbs, saunders, and a ton oof free agents. How should he be more sensitive? How should he identify "Core" redskins fans? Is a person that can afford $35 to park not a Core Redskins fan? Is a Core redskins fan poor?

[ProBowler]

No offense, but that's a lame response. It doesn't affect me, but $35 to park seems a bit expensive.

Really, This is ridiculous! Isn't that about the price of a cheap ticket? I have went to a few Carolina games and I know if you get there early enough you can find free places to park. You may half to walk a half mile or so but I would do that any day before I would pay that.

Imagine some people were complainning about the fan attendance. Wonder why? :yawnee:

[Walking Deadman]

.....a place to park?

[pez]

I guess it depends on how you use the parking you get. I know that the people who get parking passes for the ES tailgate take full adantage of their spots (we tailgate for 4 hrs). I don't mind paying the parking pass costs (hell last year we paid 4x time standard parking pass cost because we waited too long)

[ProBowler]

What does that mean? Didn't he do that by bringing back gibbs, saunders, and a ton oof free agents. How should he be more sensitive? How should he identify "Core" redskins fans? Is a person that can afford $35 to park not a Core Redskins fan? Is a Core redskins fan poor?

That's just a plain stupid response! I guess he ought to charge $20.00 dollars for hotdogs or a drink also according to your thinking. Just because someone thinks $35 dollars is to high(wich it is) dosen't mean their poor.

[Redskins4VT]

The Redskins are the second most profitable sports franchise in the WORLD, so thats why I can't understand why Danny slaps another big price increase onto the average fan every year. If these price increases continue, the wine and cheese crowd will be the only one able to afford it and any home field advantage we had will be gone.

[autographcollector]

That's just a plain stupid response! I guess he ought to charge $20.00 dollars for hotdogs or a drink also according to your thinking. Just because someone thinks $35 dollars is to high(wich it is) dosen't mean their poor.

What should he charge? He signs all these free agents, the best coaches.

Would you prefer he cut ticket and parking prices and cut high priced players?

I want him to charge what it takes to do what he does which is sign people and coaches.

I made a choice and turned down season tickets because the pricing is more than I prefer to pay...so I watch on tv. If the market bears it, more power to the Danny. If you stop buying the food, the prices will decrease :D

[ProBowler]

I don't think the Redskins is Snyder's only business venture. I may be wrong. Off the top of my head I would consider $20 or $25 to be a reasonable price. The redskins is one of the largest revenue teams in the league. The TV contract alone for the NFL is like 8 billion dollars. This is what pays for most of the expenses in the league. I see what your saying about signing players and coaches but you have to draw the line somewhere and I think $35 crosses that line when you consider the prices of tickets and consessions already.

[DSF]

This is my favorite mindless lemming comment. If you don't like getting ripped off, someone else will. :rolleyes:

Heh... Mindless? Maybe.

However, its the truth. Its economics 101, simple supply and demand. So unless you get out and walk like the rest of us, then you'll continue to drive up the demand (thus price) by wanting to park closer. I guarantee you the prices would go down if everyone just decided to not use the parking areas made available.

Do I like it? No.

Do I support it? No.

Do I understand it? Sadly, Yes.

[autographcollector]

I don't think the Redskins is Snyder's only business venture. I may be wrong. Off the top of my head I would consider $20 or $25 to be a reasonable price. The redskins is one of the largest revenue teams in the league. The TV contract alone for the NFL is like 8 billion dollars. This is what pays for most of the expenses in the league. I see what your saying about signing players and coaches but you have to draw the line somewhere and I think $35 crosses that line when you consider the prices of tickets and consessions already.

It's expensive which is why I didn't do it.

Look truth be told when parking went to $25 it was the same feeling. Now you think $25 is reasonable? My opinion is $25 is excessive. If $35 is what it takes for schneider to pay assistant coaches more than head coaches in the league, and to buy my free agents...then I say do what you need to do Mr. Snyder.

[autographcollector]

Heh... Mindless? Maybe.

However, its the truth. Its economics 101, simple supply and demand. So unless you get out and walk like the rest of us, then you'll continue to drive up the demand (thus price) by wanting to park closer. I guarantee you the prices would go down if everyone just decided to not use the parking areas made available.

Do I like it? No.

Do I support it? No.

Do I understand it? Sadly, Yes.

:applause:

[PleaseGoForTheWin]

What's amazing about all of this is that it keeps happening. Why on earth would someone ever build a stadium and not have:

1) enough roads in and out
2) enough places to park
3) public transporation access

The new Browns stadium isn't as bad as FedEx is, but there's virtually no parking down there. I know that land doesn't come cheap, especially when you're going to turn it into a parking lot that isn't used 7 months of the year, but what is it with stadiums that they rarely have enough parking? If $35 made it easy to get in and out of, I wouldn't mind it. But it wasn't even remotely close to easy last year, which is why some people (or at least me, anyway) feel that the price increase is a slap in the face.

Ultimately we do have a choice, though it's not a fair choice because it exploits peoples' loyalty to the team(s) they love.

[autographcollector]

What's amazing about all of this is that it keeps happening. Why on earth would someone ever build a stadium and not have:

1) enough roads in and out
2) enough places to park
3) public transporation access

The new Browns stadium isn't as bad as FedEx is, but there's virtually no parking down there. I know that land doesn't come cheap, especially when you're going to turn it into a parking lot that isn't used 7 months of the year, but what is it with stadiums that they rarely have enough parking? If $35 made it easy to get in and out of, I wouldn't mind it. But it wasn't even remotely close to easy last year, which is why some people (or at least me, anyway) feel that the price increase is a slap in the face.

Ultimately we do have a choice, though it's not a fair choice because it exploits peoples' loyalty to the team(s) they love.

Parking was MUCH better before they built a shopping mall next to the stadium. That mall basically ruined the parking IMO....

[scuppajones]

Funny, I have been going to the games at Fed Ex, parking in the Green Lot and have never had a problem. If you get there early and tailgate you don't run in to much traffic, I guess if I want to come in an hour before the game starts I might have problems getting in, but guess what there are 90,000 people going to the game, of course there is going to be traffic. Maybe Snyder should invent a teleportation device to get you whiners into the game on time.

[bubba9497]

$35 a game to park gets us what?


a place to park :obvious:

[BIGJoeSalave'a]

We are now paying $10 more per game and nothing has changed. Actually, that's wrong. The added jons that were out in post-Snyder chat have disappeared. It's actually pretty funny because the people parked next to me last night noticed it too. There aren't more trash bins. The former charcoal bins are gone too.

I am just wondering what exactly we are getting in return for our 40% increase?


The Redskins are the second most profitable sports franchise in the WORLD, so thats why I can't understand why Danny slaps another big price increase onto the average fan every year. If these price increases continue, the wine and cheese crowd will be the only one able to afford it and any home field advantage we had will be gone.

- First of all, the problem may not lie in Dan Snyder. The problem is coming from those Redskins managers who is in charge of the FedEx Field operations. Maybe someone can alert Dan Snyder and let him solve the problems.
:applause:
- 2nd, Redskins4VT's post is one of the wisest and far fetched observation about this issue.
If most of the crowd at FedEx are wine and cheese crowd, then the Skins will definitely lose the home field advantage, and that will affect the bottom line of winning the Super Bowl.

[newtomd]

If you look at the price of parking passes that the market is establishing on Ebay, $35 is steal. There are tons of people who are willing to 2 or 3 times that price. The market seems as if it would support a much higher price. Honestly, Dan is giving people a deal by not charging more.

[Mark The Homer]

It's not really about a place to park. It's about a place to tailgate. And that means we need places to take a leak. And I do believe those places will be intact when Sept 11 rolls around. HTTR

[pez]

Did anyone stop to think that maybe the price increase is outside of the Redskin's control (staff pay hike, operations costs hike, outside contractor services, etc) ?

Also another possibility in hike is for improvements to the actual stadium in the future (for example the cost it will take to gut the stadium and implement a new didgital system for a jumbotron)...

People have to think about this more than Snyder trying to line his pockets. Snyder has always put massive amounts of profit earnings back into the team/stadium for their betterment...

[Gracelander]

Yes, there were portajohns missing big time. I presume it's only a pre-season thing, and the missing johns will be back Sept 11th.

Yeah i'm glad someone else noticed that, there were two johns at the Apollo lot right next to the busses, nothing like pissing & getting exhaust fumes blown thru the screens.

still was a good time.

[9_to_42_td]

It's not really about a place to park. It's about a place to tailgate. And that means we need places to take a leak. And I do believe those places will be intact when Sept 11 rolls around. HTTR


Ok, now we got you as the Jersey Expert, the Stadium Expert, parking pass expert, chili and tailgate food expert, and now where to place the porta pottie expert. Whats next??????????????/

[autographcollector]

If you look at the price of parking passes that the market is establishing on Ebay, $35 is steal. There are tons of people who are willing to 2 or 3 times that price. The market seems as if it would support a much higher price. Honestly, Dan is giving people a deal by not charging more.

Yep! You should see what I have to pay for an orange pass to the Ravens preseason game where my daughter is cheering at half time!!!

It's only preseason.

[HOF44]

If you look at the price of parking passes that the market is establishing on Ebay, $35 is steal. There are tons of people who are willing to 2 or 3 times that price. The market seems as if it would support a much higher price. Honestly, Dan is giving people a deal by not charging more.

This post says it all. Everyone getting a pass for $35 be damn happy. If your not turn it back in, thats what I would do.

As a matter of fact its the only thing you can do to be true to yourself. How can you look yourself in the mirror and know Snyder is ripping you off!!! Turn them in now, don't take it any more!! Enough is enough!!!!

[skinfan2k]

i want parking prices to raise every year and hear what u fans reason after each hike cuz i refuse to park a car there..

[HOF44]

i refuse to park a car there..

Preach it brother!! Start a movement!! Get everyone to refuse to park at these prices!! I'm behind you all the way!! :applause::applause:

[End2round2sanders]

Its 10 bucks at the charger games lol you guys are getting ripped off.

[RFKFedEx]

How is $35 for a spot in the stadium parking lot unreasonable? I don't have a stadium parking pass with my season tickets and I was told that it's a five year wait to get one. My solution to this delima is to buy a green parking pass for $70 a game. I shell out for a parking pass for twice it's face value 8 times a year because it's worth it for tailgating and not having to ride the shuttle bus. If the MARKET VALUE of the green, orange, and purple parking passes is twice as much as the face value, please explain to me how Danny is being unreasonable by underselling the potential of his product (which hapens to be premium stadium parking)? Ask the fans in Chicago and New England how much a stadium parking pass costs per game.

[sith lord]

How is $35 for a spot in the stadium parking lot unreasonable? I don't have a stadium parking pass with my season tickets and I was told that it's a five year wait to get one. My solution to this delima is to buy a green parking pass for $70 a game. I shell out for a parking pass for twice it's face value 8 times a year because it's worth it for tailgating and not having to ride the shuttle bus. If the MARKET VALUE of the green, orange, and purple parking passes is twice as much as the face value, please explain to me how Danny is being unreasonable by underselling the potential of his product (which hapens to be premium stadium parking)? Ask the fans in Chicago and New England how much a stadium parking pass costs per game.

Ralph Wilson Stadium parking for the Bills is only $15. Anyway you look at it, $35 to park is borderline price gouging. Look at it this way, $35 is about half the one day admission price at Disney World.

[dcsmooth]

According to Dan Snyder: Coming soon... no more tail gating... you will have to eat at the game, inside the stadium! Objective: To increase cash flow.

[autographcollector]

Ralph Wilson Stadium parking for the Bills is only $15. Anyway you look at it, $35 to park is borderline price gouging.

What do they spend on salaries, coaches?

Would you rather have the Bill's owner?

How much is a house in Buff? DC?

How much is parking at a Wizards/Caps game?

Compare apples to apples!!! :2cents:

What did the Bills owner pay for his team? Snyder?

Do the Bills own their stadium? Is it publicly financed?

[docsandy]

Parts of this discussion is really bothering me.

It's not the money part. Some people can afford it. Some people work around so they can afford it (the parking) because they enjoy being there. Some people pay it and moan and groan about the prices. Some people choose not to pay it. That's all fine. To each his own. Right now I'm paying it. But if it becomes a financial burden, well, I'll make that decision when I have to make that decision.

But to call someone a "core Redskins fan" based on the ability to pay parking and/or actually attend games really bothers me. You don't gauge the "depth" of someone's fanaticism of the Redskins based on their ability to pay for parking or attend games. Some simply can't because they are not in the area. My mother was one of the most loyal, diehard fans I ever knew, but once she got older and her health took over, he had to watch at home.

You can't "buy" the depth of being a Redskins fan. There are some people who literally live for football season and the joy, win or lose, that the Redskins bring to them. People who feel that "money" makes them a better fan than someone who is on social security watching games on a small color television, or even listening on the radio are a sad lot.

I don't think that was the purposeful intention of any of the posts here, but there were a few that certainly came across that way.

End of soapbox ;)

[skinfan2k]

Parts of this discussion is really bothering me.

It's not the money part. Some people can afford it. Some people work around so they can afford it (the parking) because they enjoy being there. Some people pay it and moan and groan about the prices. Some people choose not to pay it. That's all fine. To each his own. Right now I'm paying it. But if it becomes a financial burden, well, I'll make that decision when I have to make that decision.

But to call someone a "core Redskins fan" based on the ability to pay parking and/or actually attend games really bothers me. You don't gauge the "depth" of someone's fanaticism of the Redskins based on their ability to pay for parking or attend games. Some simply can't because they are not in the area. My mother was one of the most loyal, diehard fans I ever knew, but once she got older and her health took over, he had to watch at home.

You can't "buy" the depth of being a Redskins fan. There are some people who literally live for football season and the joy, win or lose, that the Redskins bring to them. People who feel that "money" makes them a better fan than someone who is on social security watching games on a small color television, or even listening on the radio are a sad lot.

I don't think that was the purposeful intention of any of the posts here, but there were a few that certainly came across that way.

End of soapbox ;)


proudly said.. alot of fans here think money is a superseeding factor in determining your true alliegance to being a Skins Fan.. i know numerous fans who are diehard skins but never been to a game but i know they are better fans than those who attend Fedex:applause::applause::applause:

[Fifty Gut]

you pay for the tailgate experience (pregame and postgame), it's that simple

[sith lord]

What do they spend on salaries, coaches?

Would you rather have the Bill's owner?

How much is a house in Buff? DC?

How much is parking at a Wizards/Caps game?

Compare apples to apples!!! :2cents:

What did the Bills owner pay for his team? Snyder?

Do the Bills own their stadium? Is it publicly financed?

The fact of the matter is that he doesn't have to charge his fans $35 to park their cars. Believe me, if the Bills charged $35, people would still come to the games. But what about the people who don't have a boat load of income? Why price them out of having a good time? Just because most of your fanbase can afford it, doesn't mean you should charge that much.

[skinfan2k]

some people dont tailgate they just want a parking space close to the stadium... maybe charge those who tailgate more than those who dont.. cuz u need to spend money to clean the parking lots left by tailgaters?

[Fifty Gut]

Ralph Wilson Stadium parking for the Bills is only $15. Anyway you look at it, $35 to park is borderline price gouging. Look at it this way, $35 is about half the one day admission price at Disney World.


yeah, but the Bills are a franchise in shambles, and Buffalo is a small market

you should expect to pay more for everything around DC... we live in one of the biggest and richest markets in America

[PORTIS573]

It costs $20 to park at titan games. Parking is ridiculous at all sporting events

[autographcollector]

Parts of this discussion is really bothering me.

It's not the money part. Some people can afford it. Some people work around so they can afford it (the parking) because they enjoy being there. Some people pay it and moan and groan about the prices. Some people choose not to pay it. That's all fine. To each his own. Right now I'm paying it. But if it becomes a financial burden, well, I'll make that decision when I have to make that decision.

But to call someone a "core Redskins fan" based on the ability to pay parking and/or actually attend games really bothers me. You don't gauge the "depth" of someone's fanaticism of the Redskins based on their ability to pay for parking or attend games. Some simply can't because they are not in the area. My mother was one of the most loyal, diehard fans I ever knew, but once she got older and her health took over, he had to watch at home.

You can't "buy" the depth of being a Redskins fan. There are some people who literally live for football season and the joy, win or lose, that the Redskins bring to them. People who feel that "money" makes them a better fan than someone who is on social security watching games on a small color television, or even listening on the radio are a sad lot.

I don't think that was the purposeful intention of any of the posts here, but there were a few that certainly came across that way.

End of soapbox ;)

:applause:

To say "Core Redskins Fans" and relate it to economic ability to see a game is just an insult. I am a "Core Redskin Fan" and have the ability to pay the $35 but choose not to get season tickets and do it.

Unfortunately ALL Sports pricing has stopped some fans from being able to afford to go. To equate fan to economic ability to afford games is disgusting.

:2cents:

[autographcollector]

The fact of the matter is that he doesn't have to charge his fans $35 to park their cars. Believe me, if the Bills charged $35, people would still come to the games. But what about the people who don't have a boat load of income? Why price them out of having a good time? Just because most of your fanbase can afford it, doesn't mean you should charge that much.

Are you Dan Snyders accountant? To pay two assistants above head coaches salaries and spend lavishly on free agents costs money. If you want cheap prices and cheap parking, don't ask for an open checkbook to sign coaches and players. Sure Redskins are tope revenue producers, but they are also top salary payers.

Since when do any sports owners price there tickets so anyone can afford to go???

[ThreeKings]

What do we get in return????


We get Archuleta, Lloyd, Randle El, Carter, Fauria, Al Saunders, etc..

Also the little things like lighting so the players can practice at night, a new jacuzzi in the locker room, etc.

Pay the extra 10$ and stop whining. If he didnt put it back into the team then maybe you can whine.

[sith lord]

Are you Dan Snyders accountant? To pay two assistants above head coaches salaries and spend lavishly on free agents costs money. If you want cheap prices and cheap parking, don't ask for an open checkbook to sign coaches and players. Sure Redskins are tope revenue producers, but they are also top salary payers.

Since when do any sports owners price there tickets so anyone can afford to go???

Believe it or not, but the price of parking tickets have very little, if anything, to do with the signing of coaches and players.

[ThreeKings]

really??

I thought the money from parking was the sole income of signing new players.

[Mark The Homer]

Its 10 bucks at the charger games lol you guys are getting ripped off.

It's ten bucks at the Linc too. But do you know what they were missing? PORTA-JOHNS!!!!

It's all about the porta-johns really. This isn't rocket science. We need two things:

1) a place to park

2) portajohns

That's it! The rest of the tailgate stuff we'll bring with us. Just give us the goddamn porta-johns, and please don't make us walk a mile and stand in line a half hour.

And then I'll happily pay my $35 or even more!

[ragemdw]

Lets not forget we have the biggest and nicest stadium in the NFL.

Lets also not forget that we have the best franchise in the NFL.

Lets also not forget that we have a season ticket waiting list really really long, meaning we have tons of ppl that want to be at the games.

Lets not forget that our owner is a fan himself.

Lets not forget that we all want the same thing, NO MATTER WHAT THE COST,

A SUPER BOWL!!

Ill pay for the parking as long as the Skins WIN!!

If we won the game, no one would be bitching about the price of the parking!!

[Park City Skins]

Hey. Dave's back. Still on about portajohns eh Dave? http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108980 You know how to find an answer to this. It was talked about in that thread and later taken care of almost immediately. Perhaps taking the same route will work again?

[sith lord]

really??

I thought the money from parking was the sole income of signing new players.

LOL. You need to talk to autographcollector because he seems to think so.

[autographcollector]

Believe it or not, but the price of parking tickets have very little, if anything, to do with the signing of coaches and players.

REALLY????

Well I run my household and know what my expenses are. Dan runs his team and knows what his expense are. He knows NOTHING about mine and I nothing about his. I have no idea. But apparently you do??? So clue us all in.

:D

[autographcollector]

LOL. You need to talk to autographcollector because he seems to think so.

LOL I run my own business. The employees have no clue to my health insurance costs, advertising costs, business development costs.

It costs a lot of money to make payments to pay for the franchise, stadium, and players. I am not naive he wants a profit...and if he was not paying for EVERY FA and COACH to come to Washington I would gripe...but come on!!!!!!!!!

[sith lord]

REALLY????

Well I run my household and know what my expenses are. Dan runs his team and knows what his expense are. He knows NOTHING about mine and I nothing about his. I have no idea. But apparently you do??? So clue us all in.

:D

So you're saying that someone needs to know his expenses in order to complain about being over charged?

[cjbrown]

No offense, but that's a lame response. It doesn't affect me, but $35 to park seems a bit expensive.


I think that parking prices are increased more rather than ticket prices due to the revenue sharing agreement. The parking revenue, I believe, is not included in the revenue sharing agreement.

[autographcollector]

Mr. Snyder should hook me up with some season tickets since I understand his Business Plan :D

I am his biggest supporter!

:point2sky

[TheDoyler23]

I park at Landover Mall for 20 bucks and get a workout in. Its your basic one mile downhill then uphill walk.

[sith lord]

Mr. Snyder should hook me up with some season tickets since I understand his Business Plan :D

I am his biggest supporter!

:point2sky

I can tell. :D

[SkinsFanMania]

I parked at Sears at landover mall and didn't pay a dime to park.

[autographcollector]

So you're saying that someone needs to know his expenses in order to complain about being over charged?

If his costs increase to pay players and coaches how does he recoup it???????????????

How do you know he is overcharging you?

Do you think parking in those office parks are free?

Do you think Salaries are free?

You don't know what is overcharging is since you don't know his expenses :D

[Isifhan]

On a board of 50,000 members I'm sure carpool options exist.

Actually there used to be some type of service that would pick you up from a central location on game day from like an all you can eat buffet if I remember correctly. Does that still exist?

[sith lord]

If his costs increase to pay players and coaches how does he recoup it???????????????

How do you know he is overcharging you?

Do you think parking in those office parks are free?

Do you think Salaries are free?

You don't know what is overcharging is since you don't know his expenses :D

Like someone else already stated, if he wanted to charge $20.00 for a hotdog, I guess no one should complain since they don't know his expenses.

[MarkB452]

Well...go back to the chat with Dan Snyder, find the person that he said to email about the Port-a-Johns and send them another email about it. Last time if I remember correctly the problem was solved fairly quickly.

>> For the Jets game, we paid $20 to park in the grass/gravel lot between the RV lot and Landover Mall. I don't remember seeing ANY Port o Jons in our lot (lots of trees though). We had first tried to park at Landover Mall, but there were signs up saying no Redskins parking at Landover Mall. We saw some people tailgating near Sears and they told us that they were told once Sears closed at 8 PM, they would start towing cars. We talked to a guy in the grass lot who told us he and several other people were towed out of Landover Mall during the scrimmage and they had to pay $150 CASH (no check, no charge) to get their cars back. :doh:

I'm going to try Metro next time. Morgan Blvd here I come......

[psu2008]

The Skins are one of the most profitable sports teams in the nation. He more than recoups his costs. I just wish games were a bit more affordable and easier to get to tho, but I love the Skins so I dont care about cost. If you dont pay, someone else will...he is running a great business...there is still a great demand at any price. I have never experienced horrible traffic since I love tailgating and get there real early. I have a blue parking pass, 2 Tickets in the upper deck and that costs around $1750-1800. I just hope I will be able to afford the tickets when I graduate college in 2 yrs(my dad is paying for them now).....

[MarkB452]

I park at Landover Mall for 20 bucks and get a workout in. Its your basic one mile downhill then uphill walk.

>> Where is the area/lot for this? We tried for the Jets game, but only saw signs saying no Redskins parking.

[pez]

So you're saying that someone needs to know his expenses in order to complain about being over charged?

Sith.. your argument doesn't make sense. If you don't know his expenses, how do you know you are being overcharged?

There are different options for parking... parking at the mall, metro, etc. Sometimes you can get deals through ebay or through our classifieds here on ES.

I don't believe in the argument that those who cannot attend games are lesser fans. Yes, I believe the prices are a bit pricey. I also believe that those who think they are going to affect the pricing by not paying for parking are a tad ignorant, as there is a parking pass waiting list that is starting to get as long as some season ticket waiting lists.

Yes, I believe Snyder is getting a profit... he is the owner, he should. A also believe that Snyder is not just trying to guage his fans, but trying to make profits that he can use to make the team and the experience even greater.

[sith lord]

Sith.. your argument doesn't make sense. If you don't know his expenses, how do you know you are being overcharged?

Yes, I believe Snyder is getting a profit... he is the owner, he should. A also believe that Snyder is not just trying to guage his fans, but trying to make profits that he can use to make the team and the experience even greater.

1. Like I said earlier, if he charged $20 for a hotdog, I guess no one should complain considering we don't know his expenses. I guess no one should ever complain about anything for that matter using your logic.

2. How is charging $35 to park make going to Redskins games a better experience? There's ways he can make the experience better, overcharging for parking is not one of them.

[HOF44]

1. Like I said earlier, if he charged $20 for a hotdog, I guess no one should complain considering we don't know his expenses. I guess no one should ever complain about anything for that matter using your logic.


If he did that, he would lose revenue. Letting him know he overpriced it. Parking passes right now are artificially low. The supply is dwarfed by demand. He could price them alot higher and make more money. I believe he is keeping them low to help some fans continue to get them. Can't think of any other reason to sell them for just 35.00 when the market would take a much higher price.

[ZkinsFan]

no doubt, as a season ticket holder, we are forced to pay these ass raping prices....but what else are we going to do eh? nice that they also raised the prices about 15 bucks per ticket and tried to hide it by saying it was a 10 hike......the taxes on top of the ticket price is roughly 5 bucks , hence 15 buck increase....parking is ridiculous....they did add one more porta john in our lot tho....thats somewhat nice...but traffic direction is still as crappy as ever....cops dont help at all and niether do incompetent churh peeps there. ( u know the blue lot church)

[SkinsCrunkin]

I'll say this... dont' try to get back on the bus after the game... I'll walk back to the car whenever I'm at another game, 35 dollars is expensive but it's worth it to see my team play... if you all wanna get rid of your season tickets ( a list i'm gonna be waiting on for a while because I'm only 20 years old.) I'll gladly take them, 35 bucks per game sucks but it's the price to see the greatest team in America play....

[9_to_42_td]

Mark, say how you really feel. I don't mind p-hill in fact there is never a line, but a smash is out of the question. Out of the question in a porta jon too by the way.


It's ten bucks at the Linc too. But do you know what they were missing? PORTA-JOHNS!!!!

It's all about the porta-johns really. This isn't rocket science. We need two things:

1) a place to park

2) portajohns

That's it! The rest of the tailgate stuff we'll bring with us. Just give us the goddamn porta-johns, and please don't make us walk a mile and stand in line a half hour.

And then I'll happily pay my $35 or even more!

[hail2skins]

2. How is charging $35 to park make going to Redskins games a better experience? There's ways he can make the experience better, overcharging for parking is not one of them.

Sith, I think Pez was referring to Snyder's ability to make stadium improvements and also pay coaches and players more money (which would hopefully lead to a better chance at a winning team) to make going to the games "a better experience."

However, there are multiple aspects to "the game experience." There are always discussions on here about how we wish more of the rabid fans would attend the games, but it seems like these ticket and parking hikes tend to work against that goal. More and more you're going to see the stands filled with less of the rabid fan and more of the casual fan, who probably isn't as into the game and is more likely to be the one to tell you to sit down during a big play or walk in front of you during a play in progress. Now, the Skins (as well as other major league teams) actually are facilitating the buying and selling of tickets by their alliance with Stubhub.

I understand where people are coming from on both sides of the parking fee argument, and understand the dynamics of supply and demand. But I think its sad when we've come to the point where people are praising Snyder for being altruistic for "giving us a break" in "not charging more" than $35 for parking. Don't get me wrong, the most recent head coach hiring that Snyder made was a move well deserved of praise......but it was also a quite obvious move. The only reason people are cutting Danny any slack right now is because we have a coach named Gibbs roaming the sidelines. We'll see how loyal the fanbase is once Snyder no longer has that safety net.

[autographcollector]

However, there are multiple aspects to "the game experience." There are always discussions on here about how we wish more of the rabid fans would attend the games, but it seems like these ticket and parking hikes tend to work against that goal.

PLEASE no more equating fans to their economic status in life :doh:
Believe me "casual" fans don't want to sit through that mess of getting in and out of the stadium. :doh:

[autographcollector]

The only reason people are cutting Danny any slack right now is because we have a coach named Gibbs roaming the sidelines. We'll see how loyal the fanbase is once Snyder no longer has that safety net.

Yep....

They came out in droves for Schotty, Spurrier, Gibbs...and it won't change with the next coach... :2cents:

[Thiebear]

I screwed up... I drove to a cash lot 20 that was way the hell out there.. Then took a shuttle to the lot F: and then walked to E43... (passed by a guy with parking passes I should have snagged)

Should have taken the metro so I could get tore up ....

[HOF44]

But I think its sad when we've come to the point where people are praising Snyder for being altruistic for "giving us a break" in "not charging more" than $35 for parking.

Why???? The going rate for parking this season in the aftermaket is about 600 to 1500 for a season parking pass, depending on location. Wether you think its rediculous and would never pay it, there is enough demand at that price level to sell the passes. So why doesn't Snyder sell the passes for a much higher price? He could, but chooses not to.

[skinfan2k]

the season there is a huge demand for spaces is there aren't enough to satisfy everyone.. i bet if there were 100K parking spaces, dan synder would not be able to make us pay 35 dollar per space..

[SonnyandSam]

Why???? The going rate for parking this season in the aftermaket is about 600 to 1500 for a season parking pass, depending on location. Wether you think its rediculous and would never pay it, there is enough demand at that price level to sell the passes. So why doesn't Snyder sell the passes for a much higher price? He could, but chooses not to.

I don't get these people who live in the '70s. Complaining about season parking that costs $350 when the going price for that same season parking pass is easily twice that amount in the free market....i.e. ebay and the various internet brokers. Yet, Danny is the bad boy for charging too much.....hell, he's charging less than half what the market is.

Snyder is running a business not a socialized entertainment resort for your cheap pleasure, people. And the guy posting about the parking for the Buffalo Bills is such a joke.......Buffalo can't even sell out their stadium...if you got no demand to see the game, do you really expect to charge much for parking. Get a team.....get an owner.....and then maybe the demand for parking will run up the cost a little....hell, there's half as many people on the Skins ticket waiting list than live in Buffalo!

[HOF44]

the season there is a huge demand for spaces is there aren't enough to satisfy everyone.. i bet if there were 100K parking spaces, dan synder would not be able to make us pay 35 dollar per space..

You would be right.

[skinfan2k]

would it be dumb for synder to build a garage for those who wish to only park druing the games? maybe a mulitple mulit-level 5000 parking spot garage.. maybe seperate the tailgaters and those who wish to park only

[JetSkins]

parking is a lot worse at most other stadiums

[RedskinsDave]

Hey. Dave's back. Still on about portajohns eh Dave? http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108980 You know how to find an answer to this. It was talked about in that thread and later taken care of almost immediately. Perhaps taking the same route will work again?

Taken care of and then the "fixes" disappear. Sorry I don't just grin and bear it like some folks. We tailgate in the first lanes off of Morgan Blvd to the left of the flow of traffic. Maybe if Snyder's employees fix that one area, I will stop worrying about. Apparently I am not the only one who noticed a problem though.

[lunarluau]

Game day is an all day affair. $35 to park completely sucks and if you're in the cash lot, god bless ya but that lot completely sucks. we're paying upwards of $60-$75 for Red passes as we can't our parking passes upgraded. This while some folks have two to three parking passes and they then rape us on ebay and craigslist.

With that said, Wouldn't pass up the game day experience for anything.

In short - Get there early and expect it to take long to get back home. Going to games is expensive but I'm an addict and I need my fix.

[sith lord]

Why???? The going rate for parking this season in the aftermaket is about 600 to 1500 for a season parking pass, depending on location. Wether you think its rediculous and would never pay it, there is enough demand at that price level to sell the passes. So why doesn't Snyder sell the passes for a much higher price? He could, but chooses not to.

You love you some Dan Snyder, don't you. :D

[sith lord]

parking is a lot worse at most other stadiums

How do you know that?

[HOF44]

You love you some Dan Snyder, don't you. :D

I think he's a good owner. One thing I'd like to see him do though is make the pruple and orange lots smaller. There are always tons of empty spaces in those lots regardless of the games. If he made those smaller he could increase the green lot size.

[sith lord]

I think he's a good owner. One thing I'd like to see him do though is make the pruple and orange lots smaller. There are always tons of empty spaces in those lots regardless of the games. If he made those smaller he could increase the green lot size.

I think he's a "GREAT" owner. But I still have a problem with him charging $35 to park.

[RedskinsDave]

For all those who are using the argument that players and coaches are what we get for our parking, I disagree and don't see any logic in that anyways. I understand that we pay what we do for tickets and, while high, the market certainly bears it. At least when the tickets are increased so is payroll and salaries. Parking was increased 40% and we have not received any increase in what we get for that.

[pez]

Ok... here is a question... Everyone is griping for a new Jumbotron, and we know that most likely snyder is working on it. Well in order for us to get one, it will take gutting the entire stadium and implementing a new didgital system. Also the tron itself will have to be ontop of the stadium, thus more expensive reinforcement. An we all know snyder, he will want the best of the best tron. Well that is a hefty price tag, which goes way beyond standard yearly costs. Where does he take this from?

Well he could take it from most likely 2 places.... tickets or parking passes. If he adds it to tickets, that will drive up ticket prices and people with financial restrictions. thus they cannot go to the game.

The other option is parking passes. Well, since there are cheap options for getting to the stadium (metro or park at landover), why not take it from here? IF he dumps all the increaes on the ticket price, people can't even attend, but if he puts it on parking, people can still attend...

[HOF44]

I'd like to personally thank any of you guys that gave up your parking passes in disgust. The skins just emailed me and I now have red season passes. Now some of you green lot dudes get pissed and give up the passes!!!

[Skins n' Bones]

No matter what the parking cost is, the Ebay market price will likely still be double or more. And if it was only $10, someone would still complain about it and probably say it should be free.....somebody always does!

Also, I think $35 isn't that bad if you tailgate. If you just park and head into the stadium, then it is too steep. Tailgating can get you filled up on food and drink much cheaper than buying it in the stadium, plus it is a good way to hang out with and get to know fellow Skins fans.

Here's a question: Drinking alcohol in public is supposed to be illegal, yet it is legal to drink in a parking lot while tailgating. Do the Redskins/FedEx Field have to pay the county for some sort of liquor license to permit drinking in the parking lots? If so, it is possible that that cost went up.

Another thing is that high parking prices are probably supposed to promote carpooling, which lessens traffic and should make the experience in and out of the lots better. If there were more like 100,000 spaces like someone suggested, can you imagine the traffic in and out of the lots? It would be horrendous.

Finally, as for high prices driving away the hardcore fans and bringing in more casual fans, I don't get that. I had the opportunity to get season tix (w/ Green parking) for the first time this year, and even though it was VERY tough to do financially, we made it happen. If it costs more, why would someone who doesn't care about the Skins (or the opposing team) want to spend the money? If it's the "wine and cheese crowd", they likely wouldn't buy anything other than club level, and there are a TON more seats in the upper and lower decks for the rest of us.

[skinfan2k]

Also, I think $35 isn't that bad if you tailgate. If you just park and head into the stadium, then it is too steep. Tailgating can get you filled up on food and drink much cheaper than buying it in the stadium, plus it is a good way to hang out with and get to know fellow Skins fans.

Another thing is that high parking prices are probably supposed to promote carpooling, which lessens traffic and should make the experience in and out of the lots better. If there were more like 100,000 spaces like someone suggested, can you imagine the traffic in and out of the lots? It would be horrendous.



i agree with your two points.. i think this is written to perfection.. i defintely believe parking fees for those who just park should be less, since cleanup is required after those who tailgate

[dpj0122]

We are now paying $10 more per game and nothing has changed. Actually, that's wrong. The added jons that were out in post-Snyder chat have disappeared. It's actually pretty funny because the people parked next to me last night noticed it too. There aren't more trash bins. The former charcoal bins are gone too.

I am just wondering what exactly we are getting in return for our 40% increase?


You are getting screwed by the slimeball owner, that's what you are getting.

[scuppajones]

You are getting screwed by the slimeball owner, that's what you are getting.

Cool, then don't come to the games, one less idiot for us to worry about.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Lets not forget we have the biggest and nicest stadium in the NFL.

I'm on the side of the argument $35 is nothing when you have people on Ebay paying $100 a game to park.......... BUT biggest? Yes nicest??? NOT EVEN CLOSE. Fed Ex is a dump compared to newer stadiums.

[sith lord]

I'm on the side of the argument $35 is nothing when you have people on Ebay paying $100 a game to park.......... BUT biggest? Yes nicest??? NOT EVEN CLOSE. Fed Ex is a dump compared to newer stadiums.

I agree. I think FedEx is OK, but most people agree that it doesn't have the charm of Tampa's or Baltimore's stadiums.

[RedskinsDave]

You are getting screwed by the slimeball owner, that's what you are getting.

That's not the case at all and I don't want my beef to come across as such either. I think Snyder cares and that's why I posted this in hopes that the problem would be rectified.

[cincyfan]

I went to the Redskins Vs Bengals pre-season and it cost me $30 to park my car in a cash lot. The lots at the Bengals stadium went up to $35/game this year (this must be the magic NFL number). The cost of parking at Fed Ex is probably on par with the cost of parking at many NFL stadiums.

I just figure the cost of parking as part of the cost of my tickets. Do I wish it was less--sure I do. But I wish gas was less and that I could buy Utz potato chips here in Cincinnati but there is not much I can do about these things :silly: So I try to get good gas mileage, stock up on Utz when I come home for Redskins games and tailgate as much as possible to get my money's worth :cheers:

Jackie

[sith lord]

I went to the Redskins Vs Bengals pre-season and it cost me $30 to park my car in a cash lot. The lots at the Bengals stadium went up to $35/game this year (this must be the magic NFL number). The cost of parking at Fed Ex is probably on par with the cost of parking at many NFL stadiums.

I just figure the cost of parking as part of the cost of my tickets. Do I wish it was less--sure I do. But I wish gas was less and that I could buy Utz potato chips here in Cincinnati but there is not much I can do about these things :silly: So I try to get good gas mileage, stock up on Utz when I come home for Redskins games and tailgate as much as possible to get my money's worth :cheers:

Jackie

I'm not sure, but I'm willing to bet that $35 is the highest parking fee in the league.

[HOF44]

I'm not sure, but I'm willing to bet that $35 is the highest parking fee in the league.

I thought I read somewhere that Chicago instituted some type of plan that has the best parking going for around 100 per game.

[sith lord]

I thought I read somewhere that Chicago instituted some type of plan that has the best parking going for around 100 per game.

You have to be joking.

[HOF44]

You have to be joking.

http://www.chicagobears.com/uploads/files/KKGAMNKOKBIC/fanguide2005_generalparkinginfo.pdf

35.00 for cash parking.

[autographcollector]

You have to be joking.

http://www.soldierfieldparking.com/Source/ParkingRates.aspx

[sith lord]

http://www.chicagobears.com/uploads/files/KKGAMNKOKBIC/fanguide2005_generalparkinginfo.pdf

35.00 for cash parking.

Well, that's a big difference from $100. But $35 is still expensive just to park a car and like I said, the Bills only charge $15.

[HOF44]

Well, that's a big difference from $100. But $35 is still expensive just to park a car.

I still could have sworn that they have what they call premium lots for about 100 face value, but I can't find backup for that at the moment. I'll keep looking, cause I wanna know now. :laugh:

[hail2skins]

HOF, I think you are correct about the $100 in Chicago, but I think that was more something done by the city rather than the team itself.

Either way, I can't fathom the prices they are now charging for someone to just park their car at a sporting event. You can bet that in three years when my club lease runs up, I'm one person they won't be getting that money (by then it'll be at least $40) from.

[fluffhead717]

I'm not sure, but I'm willing to bet that $35 is the highest parking fee in the league.

whine, whine, whine.... what are we, the Washington Whiners? $35 is NOT the highest in the league. i just saw a report on the Dallas/Saints game tonight and parking there can run you $50. we're talking SHREVEPORT, LA and the SAINTS people. parking is a revenue stream for all teams. i have no problem paying $35 b/c i get to the stadium 3 hours before kickoff (=no traffic), tailgate, go watch the game and after the game, i'll tailgate some more while the traffic dies down. total time at FedEx = 6-8 hours. you go to DC for a Caps/Wizards game and parking will run you $25 for 2-2.5 hours of parking. you park for an hour in DC and it'll run you $7. so if you have a problem with the parking price, ride the metro, wait an hour or so to get to the stadium after that, don't tailgate and then deal with the ALL the masses trying to get out on busses after the game. gee, that $35 sounds like a pretty good deal to me. have you all forgotten that Snyder paid $850 MILLION for the team?!? most of you can't even grasp how much money that REALLY is.... either pay the $35 or don't, but don't whine about it if you do.:2cents:

[skinfan2k]

is it our fault that synder paid 850 for the team?

[Folami69]

HOF, I think you are correct about the $100 in Chicago, but I think that was more something done by the city rather than the team itself.

That's correct. And, it is for VIP parking, not all parking (ridiculous, no matter what they call it and who decided to hike the fee).

Chicabo Bears VIP Parking (http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-vippark14.html)

[sith lord]

whine, whine, whine.... what are we, the Washington Whiners? $35 is NOT the highest in the league. i just saw a report on the Dallas/Saints game tonight and parking there can run you $50. we're talking SHREVEPORT, LA and the SAINTS people. parking is a revenue stream for all teams. i have no problem paying $35 b/c i get to the stadium 3 hours before kickoff (=no traffic), tailgate, go watch the game and after the game, i'll tailgate some more while the traffic dies down. total time at FedEx = 6-8 hours. you go to DC for a Caps/Wizards game and parking will run you $25 for 2-2.5 hours of parking. you park for an hour in DC and it'll run you $7. so if you have a problem with the parking price, ride the metro, wait an hour or so to get to the stadium after that, don't tailgate and then deal with the ALL the masses trying to get out on busses after the game. gee, that $35 sounds like a pretty good deal to me. have you all forgotten that Snyder paid $850 MILLION for the team?!? most of you can't even grasp how much money that REALLY is.... either pay the $35 or don't, but don't whine about it if you do.:2cents:

But people have a right not to be overcharged. Like I said earlier, $35 is roughly half the admission price to Disney World.

[skinfan2k]

and plz synder paid alot for the team, and he invests back into a team.. thats why they have a salary cap.. and a salary floor.. they base that number on how much each team can spend on their players

[HOF44]

That's correct. And, it is for VIP parking, not all parking (ridiculous, no matter what they call it and who decided to hike the fee).

Chicabo Bears VIP Parking (http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-vippark14.html)

Thanks for the link, I knew I had heard that somewhere.

[sith lord]

Giant Stadium parking is $10-$15.

[fluffhead717]

Giant Stadium parking is $10-$15.

then go to Giants games:gaintsuck i don't think $35 is overcharging fans when a lot of teams charge $35... bottom line is whether you want to pay less and deal w/ the busses. snyder isn't holding a gun to your head and telling you you HAVE to buy parking passes.

[sith lord]

then go to Giants games:gaintsuck i don't think $35 is overcharging fans when a lot of teams charge $35... bottom line is whether you want to pay less and deal w/ the busses. snyder isn't holding a gun to your head and telling you you HAVE to buy parking passes.

How did I know someone was gonna say that?

[pez]

Giant Stadium parking is $10-$15.

New England is $35...

[sith lord]

New England is $35...

Steelers is $25 per game. Still high in my opinion.

[crackerbaby00]

I'm not sure, but I'm willing to bet that $35 is the highest parking fee in the league.


Cowboys charge $50 per game

Bears Charge either $65 or $75 from what i have read

[sith lord]

Cowboys charge $50 per game

Bears Charge either $65 or $75 from what i have read

Wrong. Cowboys parking is $18-$23 per game and the Bears is $40 per game. And don't even go there, I'm just making a point.

[pez]

Wrong. Cowboys parking is $18-$23 per game and the Bears is $35 per game. And don't even go there, I'm just making a point.

Actually bears is $40 - higher than us...

[sith lord]

Actually bears is $40 - higher than us...

You're right and $40 is crazy. They're ripping people off with these prices.

[Brad_Edwards_Fan]

This is an issue that is starting to get to me in general. Just because someone who is running a business CAN sell something for less why should we. When did we suddenly decide that business' in this world need to lose money (and yes, pricing something lower than the market would bare is losing money since they are making less money)? Why some people think that they have the right to ignore what the market will bear and decide on their own what is and is not excessive is beyond me. should that state of Maryland pass a law that states that no home should cost more than X dollars, because even though they are really nice and cost a lot to build everyone should have a right to live there.


Sorry people, but everyone doens have equal financial resources, and the people with the greater resources are often times the one driving the market prices. It isnt perfect and isnt fair, but it also isnt going to change. Like many others have said...if you think $35 is excessive for parking then dont pay it, take a stand. I hate it when people complain about a problem but do nothing to solve it, if enough people decide $35 is excessive and stop paying it the price will either fall or stop climbing.


Perhaps instead of saying that $35 is excessive or gouging people should tell the truth...$35 is more than I choose to spend (with no bearing on ability to spend)


sorry for the rant, i'm done now.

[sith lord]

This is an issue that is starting to get to me in general. Just because someone who is running a business CAN sell something for less why should we. When did we suddenly decide that business' in this world need to lose money (and yes, pricing something lower than the market would bare is losing money since they are making less money)? Why some people think that they have the right to ignore what the market will bear and decide on their own what is and is not excessive is beyond me. should that state of Maryland pass a law that states that no home should cost more than X dollars, because even though they are really nice and cost a lot to build everyone should have a right to live there.


Sorry people, but everyone doens have equal financial resources, and the people with the greater resources are often times the one driving the market prices. It isnt perfect and isnt fair, but it also isnt going to change. Like many others have said...if you think $35 is excessive for parking then dont pay it, take a stand. I hate it when people complain about a problem but do nothing to solve it, if enough people decide $35 is excessive and stop paying it the price will either fall or stop climbing.


Perhaps instead of saying that $35 is excessive or gouging people should tell the truth...$35 is more than I choose to spend (with no bearing on ability to spend)


sorry for the rant, i'm done now.



If I was in that position, I would take a stand. $35 is more than I would be willing to pay just for parking.

[112row2]

Devil's advocate here:

Nats $12 per game X 80 games = $960

Wizards $15 (+) per game X 40 games = $600

Skins $35 per game X 13 games :D = $455

Not a great argument, but a chance to say we are going to have two to three playoff games at home....(pending wild card)

:cheers:

[Mooka]

It's a legitmate question. The parking fee was increased and Dave want's to know why and if the extra revenue is going back into the parking lots. That's it; there's no reason to go into how much Snyder puts into the team, so and so isn't a real fan, in the scheme of things it's not that much, yada yada. Dave, email Mike Dillow and ask him.

[autographcollector]

It's a legitmate question. The parking fee was increased and Dave want's to know why and if the extra revenue is going back into the parking lots. That's it; there's no reason to go into how much Snyder puts into the team, so and so isn't a real fan, in the scheme of things it's not that much, yada yada. Dave, email Mike Dillow and ask him.

Real legitimate. he raised it because he is a business man.
Why don't you ask him why a hotdog used to cost $5. What
new are you getting in the hotdog. Or why beer used to cost
$5. What is special about the new beer.

IT'S A BUSINESS!!! :laugh:

It will be $40 to park next year, so enjoy $35 while it lasts.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

It's a legitmate question. The parking fee was increased and Dave want's to know why and if the extra revenue is going back into the parking lots. That's it; there's no reason to go into how much Snyder puts into the team, so and so isn't a real fan, in the scheme of things it's not that much, yada yada. Dave, email Mike Dillow and ask him.

Tell Dave inflation we live in America.

Why does the trash man make for than he made last year? or 5 years ago?

[RedskinsDave]

Tell Dave inflation we live in America.

Why does the trash man make for than he made last year? or 5 years ago?

Oh really? Inflation huh? That's rich. Do yourself a favor and research inflation rates before you bring them into a conversation about a 40% hike. I would gladly pay those.

[autographcollector]

Dave when has a business owner ever owed you an explanation on his pricing strategy?

If your lucky, he won't hit you with personal seat licenses.

[NoCalMike]

If the Owners of the parking lot are charing Dan Snyder higher rates to rent them out or Snyder is spending more money for accomodations in the parking lots such as port-o-potties, then an increase in parking fees is justifiable, but if Snyder is just rasing the prices because he can, then I do kind of have a problem with it.

[cjbrown]

whine, whine, whine.... what are we, the Washington Whiners? $35 is NOT the highest in the league. i just saw a report on the Dallas/Saints game tonight and parking there can run you $50. we're talking SHREVEPORT, LA and the SAINTS people. parking is a revenue stream for all teams. i have no problem paying $35 b/c i get to the stadium 3 hours before kickoff (=no traffic), tailgate, go watch the game and after the game, i'll tailgate some more while the traffic dies down. total time at FedEx = 6-8 hours. you go to DC for a Caps/Wizards game and parking will run you $25 for 2-2.5 hours of parking. you park for an hour in DC and it'll run you $7. so if you have a problem with the parking price, ride the metro, wait an hour or so to get to the stadium after that, don't tailgate and then deal with the ALL the masses trying to get out on busses after the game. gee, that $35 sounds like a pretty good deal to me. have you all forgotten that Snyder paid $850 MILLION for the team?!? most of you can't even grasp how much money that REALLY is.... either pay the $35 or don't, but don't whine about it if you do.:2cents:


Keep in mind that the last report I saw said that the average NFL Team increased in value by approximately 25% a year. So, he's also made quite a bit of money, but much of the cost was borrowed money so he has to make money to pay the salaries and interest and principal on the loan. However, as I stated earlier, I believe parking ticket prices are excluded from the revenue sharing, so parking will increase faster than the seat ticket prices so the owners with high attendance can keep more revenue.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Oh really? Inflation huh? That's rich. Do yourself a favor and research inflation rates before you bring them into a conversation about a 40% hike. I would gladly pay those.

When was the last time they raised ticket prices before this year?

[cjbrown]

Also, you can park at the Addison rd. or Capitol Heights Metro (free - I thinkj on week ends) and ride metro to Fed Ex

[autographcollector]

If the Owners of the parking lot are charing Dan Snyder higher rates to rent them out or Snyder is spending more money for accomodations in the parking lots such as port-o-potties, then an increase in parking fees is justifiable, but if Snyder is just rasing the prices because he can, then I do kind of have a problem with it.

He is a BUSINESS owner. His goal is to make money. :doh:
He doesn't have to explain to anyone why he raises prices on anything.
The money from the parking lot goes the same place his beer money goes.

[dpj0122]

Cool, then don't come to the games, one less idiot for us to worry about.


I wouldn't give that greedy slimeball owner a penny. And it seems to me that the idiots are the ones on this board who kiss that slimeball's butt.

[RedskinInExile]

This is an issue that is starting to get to me in general. Just because someone who is running a business CAN sell something for less why should we. When did we suddenly decide that business' in this world need to lose money (and yes, pricing something lower than the market would bare is losing money since they are making less money)? Why some people think that they have the right to ignore what the market will bear and decide on their own what is and is not excessive is beyond me. should that state of Maryland pass a law that states that no home should cost more than X dollars, because even though they are really nice and cost a lot to build everyone should have a right to live there.


Sorry people, but everyone doens have equal financial resources, and the people with the greater resources are often times the one driving the market prices. It isnt perfect and isnt fair, but it also isnt going to change. Like many others have said...if you think $35 is excessive for parking then dont pay it, take a stand. I hate it when people complain about a problem but do nothing to solve it, if enough people decide $35 is excessive and stop paying it the price will either fall or stop climbing.


Perhaps instead of saying that $35 is excessive or gouging people should tell the truth...$35 is more than I choose to spend (with no bearing on ability to spend)


sorry for the rant, i'm done now.



I'm sorry, but there's just something fundamentally ****ed up about squeezing every drop of cash from fans in a business where fan loyalty is the only reason these people are in business. Doesn't it make you just a little raw that Danny is sitting around a table right now with a bunch of economists, marketing people and sociologists, figuring out the exact breaking point fans are willing to endure before throwing up their hands and saying, "**** it, I'll watch from home"?

I'm all for capitalism and all that, but in a business where the fans' love of their teams is the chief source of revenue (ticket sales, merchandise, no one watching=no tv contracts) doesn't it seem just a touch immoral that the *multimillionaire* owner of that team is schemeing ways to take every dollar Joe Redskinfan is willing to part with?

[dpj0122]

I'm sorry, but there's just something fundamentally ****ed up about squeezing every drop of cash from fans in a business where fan loyalty is the only reason these people are in business. Doesn't it make you just a little raw that Danny is sitting around a table right now with a bunch of economists, marketing people and sociologists, figuring out the exact breaking point fans are willing to endure before throwing up their hands and saying, "**** it, I'll watch from home"?

I'm all for capitalism and all that, but in a business where the fans' love of their teams is the chief source of revenue (ticket sales, merchandise, no one watching=no tv contracts) doesn't it seem just a touch immoral that the *multimillionaire* owner of that team is schemeing ways to take every dollar Joe Redskinfan is willing to part with?


Danny Boy is a greedy slimeball. He'll suck you dry every chance he gets. So stay home and watch the games in hi def. It's a much more pleasant experience that dealing with the worst stadium in the NFL.......

[scuppajones]

Danny Boy is a greedy slimeball. He'll suck you dry every chance he gets. So stay home and watch the games in hi def. It's a much more pleasant experience that dealing with the worst stadium in the NFL.......

How many other stadiums have you been too? I'd like to know how you came up with this conclusion.

[photo4u]

We are now paying $10 more per game and nothing has changed. Actually, that's wrong. The added jons that were out in post-Snyder chat have disappeared. It's actually pretty funny because the people parked next to me last night noticed it too. There aren't more trash bins. The former charcoal bins are gone too.

I am just wondering what exactly we are getting in return for our 40% increase?

I think your wonderful owner has a new helicopter on order, and needs the up front money!!!!

[fluffhead717]

I'm sorry, but there's just something fundamentally ****ed up about squeezing every drop of cash from fans in a business where fan loyalty is the only reason these people are in business. Doesn't it make you just a little raw that Danny is sitting around a table right now with a bunch of economists, marketing people and sociologists, figuring out the exact breaking point fans are willing to endure before throwing up their hands and saying, "**** it, I'll watch from home"?

I'm all for capitalism and all that, but in a business where the fans' love of their teams is the chief source of revenue (ticket sales, merchandise, no one watching=no tv contracts) doesn't it seem just a touch immoral that the *multimillionaire* owner of that team is schemeing ways to take every dollar Joe Redskinfan is willing to part with?

Did you all forget that there is a 30 year waiting list to get season tickets?!? If Snyder wanted to be the money-grubbing, greedy owner that you all are portraying him as, he could easily charge $250-400 a ticket and $100 for parking if he used the economic strategy of supply and DEMAND. stop your crying and use the time it takes to read this stupid thread and go pull your tampon out of your cheap ass!! if you live in this area, you can afford to pay for parking... this isn't a new concept. i think i saw a post on here earlier comparing Nats parking ($12 x 81= $900), Wizards/Caps ($15 x 40= $600) and 'Skins ($35 x 10=$350)... i went to a minor league baseball game in Sioux City, IA this summer while visiting relatives -- know what they charged for parking??? ONE DOLLAR!! don't like paying for parking, move to Iowa!

[dpj0122]

How many other stadiums have you been too? I'd like to know how you came up with this conclusion.

Easily 20. And Fed Ex is by far the worst. It is too big, the sound is bad, the tv screens suck, it is UGLY, the upper deck seating is atrocious, the access and egress are terrible, the customer service by the staff sucks and that's just for starters. It is a 1970's design that is 30 years out of date. Jack Kent Cooke knew he was racing the grim reaper and the thing was poorly designed and poorly constructed. Plus, Danny Boy's sheer greed in cramming seats into every nook and cranny has made things worse. You want a good stadium experience, go see the Ravens. I hate that team, but they have a great stadium and they know how to treat people.

[scuppajones]

Did you all forget that there is a 30 year waiting list to get season tickets?!? If Snyder wanted to be the money-grubbing, greedy owner that you all are portraying him as, he could easily charge $250-400 a ticket and $100 for parking if he used the economic strategy of supply and DEMAND. stop your crying and use the time it takes to read this stupid thread and go pull your tampon out of your cheap ass!! if you live in this area, you can afford to pay for parking... this isn't a new concept. i think i saw a post on here earlier comparing Nats parking ($12 x 81= $900), Wizards/Caps ($15 x 40= $600) and 'Skins ($35 x 10=$350)... i went to a minor league baseball game in Sioux City, IA this summer while visiting relatives -- know what they charged for parking??? ONE DOLLAR!! don't like paying for parking, move to Iowa!

Finally someone who makes sense. And if you can afford to pay for parking you should definitely be able to afford buying Omaha Steak Burgers instead of Philly style burgers.
:cheers:

[dpj0122]

Did you all forget that there is a 30 year waiting list to get season tickets?!? If Snyder wanted to be the money-grubbing, greedy owner that you all are portraying him as, he could easily charge $250-400 a ticket and $100 for parking if he used the economic strategy of supply and DEMAND. stop your crying and use the time it takes to read this stupid thread and go pull your tampon out of your cheap ass!! if you live in this area, you can afford to pay for parking... this isn't a new concept. i think i saw a post on here earlier comparing Nats parking ($12 x 81= $900), Wizards/Caps ($15 x 40= $600) and 'Skins ($35 x 10=$350)... i went to a minor league baseball game in Sioux City, IA this summer while visiting relatives -- know what they charged for parking??? ONE DOLLAR!! don't like paying for parking, move to Iowa!

That "waiting list" is a complete farce. When the Cookes owned the team, it really was a waiting list. Now, it is no more than a marketing list and is pretty much a complete joke. People put their infants, dogs, cats and fish on the list.

[fluffhead717]

Finally someone who makes sense. And if you can afford to pay for parking you should definitely be able to afford buying Omaha Steak Burgers instead of Philly style burgers.
:cheers:

man, i'm not going to live this down the whole season, am i? i'm telling you all i saw was 50% MORE BEEF!!:eaglesuck

[fluffhead717]

That "waiting list" is a complete farce. When the Cookes owned the team, it really was a waiting list. Now, it is no more than a marketing list and is pretty much a complete joke. People put their infants, dogs, cats and fish on the list.

i think you're a farce... you've been to 20 stadiums and FedEx is the worst? what makes you an expert on stadiums? i guess you've never been to the Vet, Giants stadium and Dallas stadium, because if you had, you would not say that FedEx is the worst. those stadiums all suck and i'm not just saying that b/c i hate all three teams... those stadiums suck!

[scuppajones]

That "waiting list" is a complete farce. When the Cookes owned the team, it really was a waiting list. Now, it is no more than a marketing list and is pretty much a complete joke. People put their infants, dogs, cats and fish on the list.

The waiting list worked for me buddy. Go back to Philthy and watch your Eagles get swept in the NFC East again.
:eaglesuck

[dpj0122]

i think you're a farce... you've been to 20 stadiums and FedEx is the worst? what makes you an expert on stadiums? i guess you've never been to the Vet, Giants stadium and Dallas stadium, because if you had, you would not say that FedEx is the worst. those stadiums all suck and i'm not just saying that b/c i hate all three teams... those stadiums suck!

What makes me an expert on stadiums is that I've seen a lot of them, genius. Fed Ex sucks, whether you can deal with it or not.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

Easily 20. And Fed Ex is by far the worst. It is too big, the sound is bad, the tv screens suck, it is UGLY, the upper deck seating is atrocious, the access and egress are terrible, the customer service by the staff sucks and that's just for starters. It is a 1970's design that is 30 years out of date. Jack Kent Cooke knew he was racing the grim reaper and the thing was poorly designed and poorly constructed. Plus, Danny Boy's sheer greed in cramming seats into every nook and cranny has made things worse. You want a good stadium experience, go see the Ravens. I hate that team, but they have a great stadium and they know how to treat people.

Your post stink in this thread but I can't help but agree somewhat with Fed Ex Field.

[Brad_Edwards_Fan]

I'm sorry, but there's just something fundamentally ****ed up about squeezing every drop of cash from fans in a business where fan loyalty is the only reason these people are in business. Doesn't it make you just a little raw that Danny is sitting around a table right now with a bunch of economists, marketing people and sociologists, figuring out the exact breaking point fans are willing to endure before throwing up their hands and saying, "**** it, I'll watch from home"?

I'm all for capitalism and all that, but in a business where the fans' love of their teams is the chief source of revenue (ticket sales, merchandise, no one watching=no tv contracts) doesn't it seem just a touch immoral that the *multimillionaire* owner of that team is schemeing ways to take every dollar Joe Redskinfan is willing to part with?


I would respond to that by pointing you to the resale market for both tickets and parking. Both of these items are reselling for 2-3 times face value, that makes it very clear that snyder is NOT squeezing every drop of cash from his customers. Obviously the market would bear a huge jump in price, however prices are being kept artificially low. This isnt a right, people arent guaranteed affordable entertainment, it is a luxury purchase that peoples lives will not be changed by choosing not to partake in. If you want to do it, pay what it takes...if you dont want to pay what it takes dont do it.



Seems pretty simple to me.

[dpj0122]

The waiting list worked for me buddy. Go back to Philthy and watch your Eagles get swept in the NFC East again.
:eaglesuck


Think about how stupid that is. The waiting list worked for "you". So that disproves my point that the list is a joke? I think not. You can go to the team website and put your dog, cat and goldfish on it right now. Try it......By the way, I guarantee I've been a Skins fan longer than you. But I don't put my brain in a blind trust when it comes to the team. You apparently can't say the same.

[Thiebear]

By The Michigan Daily
9/6/01
PrintEmail Article Tools Page 1 of 1 CHICAGO (AP) For the first time, the average price for an NFL ticket has broken the $50 mark and taking a family of four to a game costs more than $300.
Team Marketing Reports said yesterday that the average ticket cost this year in the NFL was up by 8.7 percent, to $53.64.

The family cost, which includes tickets, parking, food and souvenirs, rose 8.4 percent to an average of $303.33.

Washington has the highest average ticket cost at $81.69, and the highest cost for a family of four at $442.54.

Arizona has the lowest average cost at $37.60 and Atlanta the lowest family cost at $228.06.

Denver and Pittsburgh , made the biggest jumps thanks to their new stadiums.

The Steelers moved from 28th last year to fifth at $62.03, a 52.2 percent increase.

Denver, which is opening Invesco Field at Mile High this year, jumped from 16th to second at $77.61, an increase of 66.8 percent.

The Broncos are also second in family cost.

Family price includes four tickets, two small beers, four soft drinks, four hot dogs, parking and two adult-sized caps.



It could be worse.. it could be 2001 ;)

[dpj0122]

I would respond to that by pointing you to the resale market for both tickets and parking. Both of these items are reselling for 2-3 times face value, that makes it very clear that snyder is NOT squeezing every drop of cash from his customers. Obviously the market would bear a huge jump in price, however prices are being kept artificially low. This isnt a right, people arent guaranteed affordable entertainment, it is a luxury purchase that peoples lives will not be changed by choosing not to partake in. If you want to do it, pay what it takes...if you dont want to pay what it takes dont do it.



Seems pretty simple to me.


Well, maybe it seems so simple because you are wrong. The fact that there are a few tickets and parking passes selling at EBAY for higher than face doesn't mean that the market would bear a huge jump in price. Danny Boy is trying to sell 92,000 tickets, remember? Not a couple of hundred.

[fluffhead717]

Think about how stupid that is. The waiting list worked for "you". So that disproves my point that the list is a joke? I think not. You can go to the team website and put your dog, cat and goldfish on it right now. Try it......By the way, I guarantee I've been a Skins fan longer than you. But I don't put my brain in a blind trust when it comes to the team. You apparently can't say the same.

oh yeah, well i've been to more Grateful Dean and Phish shows than you so that makes me better than you in my book.... man, is it just me or are you full of yourself? first your an expert on stadiums (and i didn't disagree w/ you -- i think FedEx isn't the best stadium by far, but it's :logo:OUR HOUSE :logo: , so to me, its the best stadium b/c its ours! :point2sky by the way, how long HAVE you been a Skins fan? let me guess, since 1932...:notworthy

[dpj0122]

oh yeah, well i've been to more Grateful Dean and Phish shows than you so that makes me better than you in my book.... man, is it just me or are you full of yourself? first your an expert on stadiums (and i didn't disagree w/ you -- i think FedEx isn't the best stadium by far, but it's :logo:OUR HOUSE :logo: , so to me, its the best stadium b/c its ours! :point2sky by the way, how long HAVE you been a Skins fan? let me guess, since 1932...:notworthy

The Grateful Dead and Phish concerts explain a lot.

[fluffhead717]

The Grateful Dead and Phish concerts explain a lot.

i was being facetious.... and what exactly does it explain?

[Brad_Edwards_Fan]

Well, maybe it seems so simple because you are wrong. The fact that there are a few tickets and parking passes selling at EBAY for higher than face doesn't mean that the market would bear a huge jump in price. Danny Boy is trying to sell 92,000 tickets, remember? Not a couple of hundred.

So, you dont think that if the average ticket was 100 instead of the 80something it is now they wouldnt sell out? How bout 120.... Dont forget, if you are raising prices you dont need to maintain the same volume to max out profit, 80,000 tickets at 100 a pop is still better gate that 92,000 at 80.


(I have no idea how much it would effect concessions or marketing, so i wont try to pretend i do)

I wasnt advocating raising prices to what they scalp for. The point i was trying to make was that the scalping market is evidence that the market will still bear price increases and what Danny is doing with the ticket price averaging in the 80's and parking at $35 is artificially keeping prices down.

[natsfan3]

Look I don't have season tickets because I chose not to pay that expense. I am not naive. I see the prices are terrible. I had my chance for row 28 in the 400 level and I turned them down. Naive is thinking you are not getting anything for your $35. What you got is Saunders, Randel El, Lloyd, etc.

What do you think he should do? Make people give him their financial statements, and sell cheap tickets and parking to those financially unable to go? That's naive.

My Grandfather who got Tickets in the 40's (WHEN NO ONE WANTED THEM) would be appalled.

No, what we have is 2 winning seasons since he has been the owner.

[natsfan3]

He is a BUSINESS owner. His goal is to make money. :doh:
He doesn't have to explain to anyone why he raises prices on anything.
The money from the parking lot goes the same place his beer money goes.

This is a misnomer. This team is not just his and that is what Danny has lost sight of!

[fluffhead717]

this thread is getting utterly stupid..... plain and simple, either pay the parking or don't go..... the less whiners the better.

[Brad_Edwards_Fan]

This is a misnomer. This team is not just his and that is what Danny has lost sight of!


Unless you are talking about the minority owners then you are mistaken. He (along with the other owners, although I believe he has more than 50%) can do what they want as long as the NFL will allow it. While we as fans make a team what it is, and (other than the physical assets associated with the team) make up a lot of the subjective value of the team, we do not own it, the city does not own it...the owners own it.

We are not too different than the loyal patrons of a restarant whos owner can close it or move it when they want (although we do have the luxury of knowing the NFL has to approve it).

[sith lord]

I'm sorry, but there's just something fundamentally ****ed up about squeezing every drop of cash from fans in a business where fan loyalty is the only reason these people are in business. Doesn't it make you just a little raw that Danny is sitting around a table right now with a bunch of economists, marketing people and sociologists, figuring out the exact breaking point fans are willing to endure before throwing up their hands and saying, "**** it, I'll watch from home"?

I'm all for capitalism and all that, but in a business where the fans' love of their teams is the chief source of revenue (ticket sales, merchandise, no one watching=no tv contracts) doesn't it seem just a touch immoral that the *multimillionaire* owner of that team is schemeing ways to take every dollar Joe Redskinfan is willing to part with?

AMEN!!!!!!!!!

[dpj0122]

So, you dont think that if the average ticket was 100 instead of the 80something it is now they wouldnt sell out? How bout 120.... Dont forget, if you are raising prices you dont need to maintain the same volume to max out profit, 80,000 tickets at 100 a pop is still better gate that 92,000 at 80.


(I have no idea how much it would effect concessions or marketing, so i wont try to pretend i do)

I wasnt advocating raising prices to what they scalp for. The point i was trying to make was that the scalping market is evidence that the market will still bear price increases and what Danny is doing with the ticket price averaging in the 80's and parking at $35 is artificially keeping prices down.



The fact that there a few hundred people that are willing to pay inflated prices for a game does not mean that 92,000 people will. So I don't see that it supports your point.

[autographcollector]

The fact that there a few hundred people that are willing to pay inflated prices for a game does not mean that 92,000 people will. So I don't see that it supports your point.

:doh:

There aren't even close to half of 92000 parking tickets and there are many more than a few hundred people scalping parking. If you got numbers roll them out otherwise quit with your whiney factless posts. :2cents:

[dpj0122]

this thread is getting utterly stupid..... plain and simple, either pay the parking or don't go..... the less whiners the better.


Of course, one could stick it to Danny Boy by taking metro and still go. But then one would have to face the atrocious game day experience at Fed Ex Field.

[dpj0122]

:doh:

There aren't even close to half of 92000 parking tickets and there are many more than a few hundred people scalping parking. If you got numbers roll them out otherwise quit with your whiney factless posts. :2cents:

There are 92,000 tickets, genius, which was part of the original post. As to parking, why don't you go to EBAY and count how many parking passes are up for sale. Then we will all know. Go to it.

[autographcollector]

There are 92,000 tickets, genius, which was part of the original post. As to parking, why don't you go to EBAY and count how many parking passes are up for sale. Then we will all know. Go to it.

How many parking passes do they sell genius?

I buy off the market parking when I go and I never get it on EBay. Use facts not opinions in your whiney posts.

[Brad_Edwards_Fan]

The fact that there a few hundred people that are willing to pay inflated prices for a game does not mean that 92,000 people will. So I don't see that it supports your point.

So what you are saying is that if the average price went up $20, you dont think there would be 80,000 people between the existing season ticket holders and the waiting list (while the legnth of the list is articfically high, the is no doubting that a portion of that list is real potential buyers) willing to pay an extra $200 for the season.

There are certainly more than a few hundred tickets for sale over the corse of the season for far over face value...just look at the number of Giants/Cowboy/Eagle fans in the stands for those games...you think they paid face value? While they piss me off when they are there, I am certanley ok with the fact that they are putting their money into the Skins!!

I think are arguing for the sake of arguing if you say the market wouldnt bear an increase, I dont think that too many others would support that idea.

[dpj0122]

So what you are saying is that if the average price went up $20, you dont think there would be 80,000 people between the existing season ticket holders and the waiting list (while the legnth of the list is articfically high, the is no doubting that a portion of that list is real potential buyers) willing to pay an extra $200 for the season.

There are certainly more than a few hundred tickets for sale over the corse of the season for far over face value...just look at the number of Giants/Cowboy/Eagle fans in the stands for those games...you think they paid face value? While they piss me off when they are there, I am certanley ok with the fact that they are putting their money into the Skins!!

I think are arguing for the sake of arguing if you say the market wouldnt bear an increase, I dont think that too many others would support that idea.


You originally said two or three times their current price, not $20.

[dpj0122]

How many parking passes do they sell genius?

I buy off the market parking when I go and I never get it on EBay. Use facts not opinions in your whiney posts.



You're finding out how many parking passes are being scalped, remember? Get to it and report back.

[Chachie]

If you don't like it stay home....just my two cents, someone else from the waiting list will buy your tix.

The point is to protect the future attender from paying $50.00 to park by the time they get those tix.

[Mooka]

Real legitimate. he raised it because he is a business man.
Why don't you ask him why a hotdog used to cost $5. What
new are you getting in the hotdog. Or why beer used to cost
$5. What is special about the new beer.

IT'S A BUSINESS!!! :laugh:

It will be $40 to park next year, so enjoy $35 while it lasts.
Tell Dave inflation we live in America.

Why does the trash man make for than he made last year? or 5 years ago? And inflation is a reasonable answer.

As a paying customer you always have the right to ask.

To autograph, yes I would love to know why beer is so friggin expensive where I try to drink at a tailgate and limit myself to a cpl beers in stadium.

[Brad_Edwards_Fan]

You originally said two or three times their current price, not $20.
if you are going to play the semantics game at least play it correctly, what i said was:

"would respond to that by pointing you to the resale market for both tickets and parking. Both of these items are reselling for 2-3 times face value, that makes it very clear that snyder is NOT squeezing every drop of cash from his customers. Obviously the market would bear a huge jump in price, however prices are being kept artificially low."

I think that tickets going from 80 to 100 (a 25% jump) would be a pretty huge jump....and to my point and question (which you dodged faily clumsily) do you not think the stadium would still sell out?

The tickets could sell for more...we should be happy that the tickets are held to an artificial low rather than letting the true market decide their price.

[dpj0122]

if you are going to play the semantics game at least play it correctly, what i said was:

"would respond to that by pointing you to the resale market for both tickets and parking. Both of these items are reselling for 2-3 times face value, that makes it very clear that snyder is NOT squeezing every drop of cash from his customers. Obviously the market would bear a huge jump in price, however prices are being kept artificially low."

I think that tickets going from 80 to 100 (a 25% jump) would be a pretty huge jump....and to my point and question (which you dodged faily clumsily) do you not think the stadium would still sell out?

The tickets could sell for more...we should be happy that the tickets are held to an artificial low rather than letting the true market decide their price.


Guy, don't play games. You posted about an increase of 2-3 times face value, not a $20 increase. You got called on it, and then you faded back to a $20 increase. The team would not sell out if they were charging 200 or 300 dollars a ticket.

[Brad_Edwards_Fan]

Guy, don't play games. You posted about an increase of 2-3 times face value, not a $20 increase. You got called on it, and then you faded back to a $20 increase. The team would not sell out if they were charging 200 or 300 dollars a ticket.


show me the quote where i said 200-300 a ticket...the quote from my previous post said they are scalping for 2-3 times face and that would support a huge jump in price. Nowhere did i say 200 to 300 a ticket...if you think i did show me.

[dpj0122]

show me the quote where i said 200-300 a ticket...the quote from my previous post said they are scalping for 2-3 times face and that would support a huge jump in price. Nowhere did i say 200 to 300 a ticket...if you think i did show me.

Not playing this game. 2-3 times face is 200-300 dollars, as you well know.

[Brad_Edwards_Fan]

Not playing this game. 2-3 times face is 200-300 dollars, as you well know.


not playing this game...you attempt to disprove a point i make with claiming i said something i didnt and now you're not playing this game.

you are correct, 2-3 times face is 200-300...however i never said charg 200-300 to save you time looking it up again here it is:

"I would respond to that by pointing you to the resale market for both tickets and parking. Both of these items are reselling for 2-3 times face value, that makes it very clear that snyder is NOT squeezing every drop of cash from his customers. Obviously the market would bear a huge jump in price, however prices are being kept artificially low."

now where again did i say charge 200-300...

[Rogers22]

metro is my favorite way to get there.

[Park City Skins]

Well folks. Seems as though there are a few issues to be dealt with here. Seems to me there's a chance to take them right to the source if you well.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=165192


There you go. Can't hurt to ask now can it? :)

[Pimpey42000]

$35 ain't bad considering the prices of tickets but my believe is that the team will be worth every penny spent to go to those games.

[Park City Skins]

What? So all the back and forth and the chance comes to ask Dan himself about parking and prices, nobody is asking him? :doh:

[RedskinInExile]

By the way, to all of you who are saying, "if you don't want to pay it, stay home-- someone else will,"-- you're right, someone will: more lobbyists and DC firms looking to entertain clients. You all complain about being shushed at games, told to sit down, that RFK was louder, etc, but there's a reason for that. True Skins fans that can't afford to pay the highest prices in the league are staying at home while firms with deep pockets and run entirely on good PR are filling those gaps with out-of-town clients looking to spend a nice quiet afternoon at the ballpark. And fans who can still afford season tickets but can't afford all of them have to sell the rest on EBay to fans of our opponents-- something for which we're fast gaining a bad reputation.

So, sure. I can't afford FedEx prices. I hope when my name's called off the waiting list, I will, but if I can't, I'll take your advice and will just stay home. And instead of me in the stands-- loud, devoted and just a little drunk-- you'll have some lawyer from Mississippi or an Eagles fan, thanking you for making FedEx another home game for him.

[celts32]

I would love the right to pay $35 a game to park on site...I am a season ticket holder with no parking passes. $35 seems like a bargain compared to the $75 and up I have to pay every game!

[BengalsNation]

This thread has covered a lot of topics, but I can sum them up from my perspective. With a new baby in the family, I can't afford season tickets, nor the parking/food/drink prices at the stadium. I'm not ashamed to admit that, and it doesn't make me any less of a fan. I still wear my Redskins jersey on Sundays, albiet a Champ Bailey jersey, but again, I can't afford to change jerseys as often as players change teams :)

Parking
My car is parked right out front of my house. Don't spend a dime to park, nor a dollar in gas.

Tailgating
Right outside my back door is my grill piping hot with burgers and dogs, and right near my couch is a fridge full of all the ice-cold sodas and beers I could want.

Cramped Seating
I'm on a large, soft, comfy coach with my legs up and leaning back with my arms spread wide. If I want a closer seat, I can move my couch forward a couple inches and enjoy the show.

Obstructed Views
I have a full view of every play of the game on a wonderful 51" HD television, many with the advantage of instant replay (which the screens at the game only decide to show Redskin positive ones). Of course I can hit pause and my handy DVR will take over and record anything I might miss due to distractions.

Drunk/Unruly Fans
The only drunk I might encounter is my wife, which makes halftime break one of my favorite parts of the game! ;)

Bathroom Lines
Never a wait for me, see DVR comment above as far as missing any action goes.

Traffic Congestion
The stress of traffic getting to and from the stadium is pretty easy for me. As soon as the game is over, I am instantly home! Thats awfully handy.

Ticket Prices
Cheapest in the league. My initial costs of my TV and cable was well in the past (read: pre-baby) when I could afford it.

Other NFL Action
A click or two on the remote and I am watching the other televised games. Again, the wonderful DVR will ensure I don't miss a second of Skins action.

Fantasy Football
My handy laptop sitting on the coffee table keeps me up to date on any and all fantasy action.


Look, everybody has a choice when it comes to watching games. For me, I like watching them from the comfort of my own home, and I can yell and cheer to my hearts content. My in-laws have season tickets, and I get invited to a game or two each season. When I go, I enjoy the game itself, but the rest of the experience just doesn't provide any enjoyment for me. If you think that makes me less of a fan, well, you are quite wrong my friend.

[sith lord]

I would love the right to pay $35 a game to park on site...I am a season ticket holder with no parking passes. $35 seems like a bargain compared to the $75 and up I have to pay every game!

You pay $75 to park a car? Unreal.

[BengalsNation]

I would respond to that by pointing you to the resale market for both tickets and parking. Both of these items are reselling for 2-3 times face value ...

My only argument to this would be that many times these are one-time purchases. Someone really wants to go to a game, and would be willing to way overspend for a one-time shot.

Just because individual games/passes sell for that much, doesn't mean an increase in that much in price across the board would be accepted by the season ticket holders.

[celts32]

My only argument to this would be that many times these are one-time purchases. Someone really wants to go to a game, and would be willing to way overspend for a one-time shot.

Just because individual games/passes sell for that much, doesn't mean an increase in that much in price across the board would be accepted by the season ticket holders.

As a season ticket holder without parking I will gladly take that guys $10 increase plus another $10 in order to have a parking pass. I am not rich by any means either, but having season tickets without parking is a pain in the arse....and those fortunate enough to have it should consider those less fortunate before complaining. I invite all those not satisfied with the parking price to surender the passes becasue me and the other thousands of people on the parking waiting list would be thrilled to have it. Now if you will excuse me I am going to go log onto ASCticket.com and pay $89 for the right to park my car at the opener...rediculous!

[HOF44]

As a season ticket holder without parking I will gladly take that guys $10 increase plus another $10 in order to have a parking pass. I am not rich by any means either, but having season tickets without parking is a pain in the arse....

This is soooo true. I was lucky enough to get an email from the skins Friday to let me know I could get parking. I now have a red pass to go with my tickets. I am happily paying $35.00 per game for this pass. No complaints here. The last 2 years it has been ebay and asc tickets.

[Mark The Homer]

Now if you will excuse me I am going to go log onto ASCticket.com and pay $89 for the right to park my car at the opener...rediculous!

Actually Blue is $59, green is $69.

[MarkB452]

UGH. The people walking back have to cross the ramp leading to 95South from Arena Drive. The police stop the cars about to enter the beltway to let people cross. If they built a walkway across the ramp, this wouldn't be so bad.

[MarkB452]

You pay $75 to park a car? Unreal.

Try the grass lot between the RV lot and the Mall. We paid $20 for the Jets game. You can only access it from Rt 202. This lot is NOT shown on the parking maps. Also, I did NOT see any port-o-johns in that lot either (but lots of trees and brush).

[celts32]

This is soooo true. I was lucky enough to get an email from the skins Friday to let me know I could get parking. I now have a red pass to go with my tickets. I am happily paying $35.00 per game for this pass. No complaints here. The last 2 years it has been ebay and asc tickets.

I got that email also...but by the time I checked my email account the passes were all sold out.

[celts32]

Actually Blue is $59, green is $69.

Your right, but they must have lowered them...a couple weeks ago i was on there and blue was 79 & green was 89. Good thing I waited...now I only have to pay double what it really costs. But I still feel terrible for those poor season ticket holders who recieved a $10 increase.:cry:

[AKM311]

It gets us Randle El, Lloyd, Duckett, Archulta and everyone else.

Pay for the talent. You want, so pay to get it.

[Mark The Homer]

Yes, there were portajohns missing big time. I presume it's only a pre-season thing, and the missing johns will be back Sept 11th.

Okay, I'm sorry, but I have to take this statement back.

I scrolled through all the posts and didn't see anybody mention this. Am I the only one that has a problem with a lack of places to pee?

Last season there were two johns within 100 feet of my spot. They were missing during the preseason and I thought they'd return on opening day. They weren't there. I had to walk several hundred yards to find one, and it had 15 people in line. I walked more and found two others, each with 15 people in line. If you do the math, that's pretty close to a half hour wait. I have food on the griddle, what am I gonna do?

Wincing, I walked back to my spot, crossed the ring road, and went into the bushes to do my deal because I DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE.

As I remember, last season, in the beginning, there were complaints about this, and suddenly portajohns were added. But it seems to me they've gone back to the old numbers. I would guess that maybe a third of them were missing from last year. Maybe a fourth.

Is it just me?

[TheDoyler23]

There were like 10 porta johns at that "tailgate lot" down at arena drive. I was thrilled!