The Latest Ashley Lelie Trade Rumor

[Who Del]

The Philly media and boards are buzzing now with the latest rumor to come out.

Ashley Lelie and Tatum Bell for Darwin Walker, Ryan Moats and a 5th round pick.

While that sounds highly unlikely I would definitely consider that. As much as I like Moats I think I like Tatum Bell just as much if not more. Walker is solid (I said great before but I must retract that statement. He's lazy sometimes.) at DT but we have enough depth there. We'll see if this plays out or not. I'll go on record saying I don't think it will.

[Nighthawk]

Since when did the NFL become the NBA? Aside from the Vikings - Cowboys trade in the late 80's, when's the last time there was a multi player trade in the NFL? Maybe I have a selective memory and choose not to remember, but if anybody can enlighten me, please do.

It's amazing how this "trade rumor" :laugh: is so one sided in favor of the Eagles. :doh:

[Who Del]

Since when did the NFL become the NBA? Aside from the Vikings - Cowboys trade in the late 80's, when's the last time there was a multi player trade in the NFL? Maybe I have a selective memory and choose not to remember, but if anybody can enlighten me, please do.

It's amazing how this "trade rumor" :laugh: is so one sided in favor of the Eagles. :doh:

It's pretty absurd I'll agree. But the members on TATE will bite on just about anything. This is Gargano's rumor and he's has about a 0.001% success rate as far as rumors go.

[tr1]

Eagles trade trash for quality players...come on.

[Who Del]

Eagles trade trash for quality players...come on.

tr1 you don't know much about football do you? Walker would be solid depth at DT and he could come in and start right away. Lelie isn't all-world? What the **** league have you been watching recently? Moats and Bell are almost interchangeable. Though I'd say Bell is better. Moats just fumbles too much. The Broncos could make him work though.

[AtticA]

Ashley Lelie (19th overall pick 2k2) had 1850 receiving yards over the last two years plus, Tatum Bell (41th overall pick 2k4) who had over 900 rushing yards last year for who? For a worn down DT who had 2.5 sacks last year plus a RB who almost got 300 yards last year. What are you guys smoking in Philly because Isiah Thomas would even laugh at this trade.

[tr1]

tr1 you don't know much about football do you? Walker would be solid depth at DT and he could come in and start right away. Lelie isn't all-world? What the **** league have you been watching recently? Moats and Bell are almost interchangeable. Though I'd say Bell is better. Moats just fumbles too much. The Broncos could make him work though.

You called the guy lazy. :doh:

Moats is a huge question mark.

It's a stupid rumor.

It's a stupid thread.

[Isifhan]

Isiah Thomas would even laugh at this trade.

Now that is funny :laugh:

[TD_washingtonredskins]

I think this would make the Eagles a very complete team. They'd add another WR threat and another very good back.

[Who Del]

You called the guy lazy. :doh:

Moats is a huge question mark.

It's a stupid rumor.

It's a stupid thread.

Take your own advice and ignore it. :)

[CPstretch]

that sounds like an awful trade for the broncos

[JoeSkins]

If the Eagles pulled that one off it would be highway robbery, and that offense would get a lot more intimidating. Lelie is just what that team needs. I know, I know, the character issues, but I don't think it would be nearly as big a deal as advertised.

[Number5]

Take your own advice and ignore it. :)

I was just about to say that bro! :mad:

[H-O-G]

I just bought my brother (Eagles fan) a autographed rookie Ryan Moats card :(

[bubba9497]

Well heck, lets send Denver some of our scrubs, for Al Wilson, Cutler, Bell, and a couple of their OL :laugh:

[jpgirth]

There is a rumor that we are trading Atavius Cash to Carolina for Julius Peppers.

I'm all for this deal.....could/could not?

[OWUeagleMD]

He said it sounds absurd and won't happen.

What else does everyone want?

[Isifhan]

There is a rumor that we are trading Atavius Cash to Carolina for Julius Peppers.

I'm all for this deal.....could/could not?

Only for the vet min








plus incentives

[Oldskool]

This is stand up comedy night in the Around the NFL forum.

[Who Del]

He said it sounds absurd and won't happen.

What else does everyone want?

Who knows? I really don't care. I'm pulling a tr1. I'm just here to annoy the masses. :)

[tr1]

Who knows? I really don't care. I'm pulling a tr1. I'm just here to annoy the masses. :)

Amateur. ;)

[Who Del]

For what it's also worth I don't want to get rid of Moats. I like him a lot. He's slowly becoming one of my more favorite players on the team. He's tiny, has a lot of speed and plays with heart. He just needs to learn to hold onto the rock.

[tr1]

For what it's also worth I don't want to get rid of Moats. I like him a lot. He's slowly becoming one of my more favorite players on the team. He's tiny, has a lot of speed and plays with heart. He just needs to learn to hold onto the rock.

Who Del...maybe a bit off topic, but are the Eagles in the Duckett mix?

[Who Del]

Who Del...maybe a bit off topic, but are the Eagles in the Duckett mix?

No. Eskin says they are but I don't think so. Eskin just throws **** out there and hopes anything sticks. Even Eagle fans aren't biting on it.

I would rather them go after someone like Duckett than get rid of Moats. Buckhalter is still too much of a risk in my mind. The price for Duckett might be a bit higher for an NFC team though as the Falcons would probably rather deal him out of the conference. They are asking a third right now. They might want a second or a third and some compensation to deal him to the NFC.

[tr1]

No. Eskin says they are but I don't think so. Eskin just throws **** out there and hopes anything sticks. Even Eagle fans aren't biting on it.

I would rather them go after someone like Duckett than get rid of Moats. Buckhalter is still too much of a risk in my mind. The price for Duckett might be a bit higher for an NFC team though as the Falcons would probably rather deal him out of the conference. They are asking a third right now. They might want a second or a third and some compensation to deal him to the NFC.

Thanks.

[Who Del]

Thanks.

From the looks of the Stadium sounds like you guys are really in the mix for him. Think you'll get him?

Duckett as a Skin would be scary.

[tr1]

From the looks of the Stadium sounds like you guys are really in the mix for him. Think you'll get him?

Duckett as a Skin would be scary.

I dunno if we'd get him, but I think we can use him. I think JG is tired of Betts being injured so much. And none of the young guys have really developed yet.

I'd like to see him in B&G.

[dockeryfan]

The Lelie rumor sounds way too one sided to me for it to be true.

Ducket as a skin? I would be surprised. I'd rather see more oline help, if anything.

[RDSKNfaithfull]

That would make your DT rotation much weaker with Rayburn and Patterson and Bunkley

[Number5]

That would make your DT rotation much weaker with Rayburn and Patterson and Bunkley


The "unofficial" offer now is Lelie for Moats straight up....

Jarhead1775 from the EMB posted.....


"The Broncos have reportedly shown interest in Ryan Moats. Moats is coming off a miserable preseason effort, carrying seven times for seven yards, with a fumble. Still, the Broncos might be willing to ditch one year of Ashley Lelie for three years of Moats, which makes sense for both sides. It'd help Moats' fantasy value. "

http://fantasynews.sandbox.com/2005/news/content/playernews.asp?sport=NFL&lastline=71185

[bulldog]

this rumor is perhaps the worst of the past week. obviously a 12 year old Eagles fan looking to solve all his team's problems in one fell swoop :laugh:

[Number5]

Also according to KFFL.com





Eagles | Philadelphia a potential landing spot for Staley?
Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:50:41 -0700

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports if the Pittsburgh Steelers trade or release RB Duce Staley, one possible landing spot would seem to be the Philadelphia Eagles who, to date, have not had any trade conversations with the Steelers. Should Staley be released, and it is within the realm of possibility, the Eagles could be on the list of teams interested in his services. In recent seasons, the Eagles have made a habit out of bringing back longtime contributors and fan favorites. The Eagles are in the market for a big back and, earlier this week, visited with free agent RB Stephen Davis (Panthers).


And this...


http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9614245

[ArmchairRedskin]

The Staley thing makes a lot more sense. I thought the Eagles should have never gotten rid of him.

[Number5]

The Staley thing makes a lot more sense. I thought the Eagles should have never gotten rid of him.


I agree 110% with you. He was the heart and soul of the offense much the way the Dawkins is to the defense. I personally would welcome him back with open arms.....and more importantly, I would finally believe that the team will run the ball again. With a healthy Buck, West, and hopefully Duce in the fold, the 3 headed monster could really take off, especially now that the Eagles have a powerful drive blocking OL.

I hope this happens, along with the Moats trade for Lelie....... :2cents:

[Bostic Hog]

Duce was certainly a fan favorite .... does Duce have anything left in the tank? He can't seem to make the Steelers team with Willie Parker, Verron Haynes, and 3 other nobodies ... wasn't he hurt all last year?

[Number5]

Duce was certainly a fan favorite .... does Duce have anything left in the tank? He can't seem to make the Steelers team with Willie Parker, Verron Haynes, and 3 other nobodies ... wasn't he hurt all last year?


Yeah...but you know how we think...

"That's a year of rest for him".....

Hey 53..what do you think of Burrell last night? Too bad about Rowand huh?

[Bostic Hog]

When the played happened, I was screaming at the TV for Chase to stop !!! And I was depressed when they collided and Rowand had to be helped off .... even worse this AM when I found out that he had broken the ankle. I didn't think that the Phils had enough pitching to win the WC, but lately I've been thinking that maybe they do ... now the starting CF is out ... I have less optimism now.

[Number5]

When the played happened, I was screaming at the TV for Chase to stop !!! And I was depressed when they collided and Rowand had to be helped off .... even worse this AM when I found out that he had broken the ankle. I didn't think that the Phils had enough pitching to win the WC, but lately I've been thinking that maybe they do ... now the starting CF is out ... I have less optimism now.


I'm still trying to figure out what Rowand was doing cause Chase was calling for it the whole way. Anyways, at least Shane and david have a chance to play everyday now. Hopefully the SPs can continue to pitch half way descent. With what they have, they had better pitch at least 6-7 innings a night.

[Bostic Hog]

I heard a rumor that Lelie is now with Atlanta, and the Skins got Duckett. Ouch to the Eagles fans. (actually, not a rumor, its been reported :))

[turtle]

It's a done deal. Lelie to the falcons.

[McMetal]

TJ Duckett>Anything the Eagles would have given up for Lelie

Moats? Please.

Let's shut this asinine thread down!

[ntotoro]

So much for "The Latest Ashley Lelie Trade Rumor."

[Warhead36]

:laugh: Eagles got owned

[bubba9497]

Latest rumor, eagles lose out on Both Lelie & Duckett

Redskins strike, two blows in one trade, while Lurie counts his pennies :)

[DWinzit]

Latest rumor, eagles lose out on Both Lelie & Duckett
Redskins strike, two blows in one trade, while Lurie counts his pennies :)
Yep, both of these guys would have fit nicely with Philly.:D

[Eagles_Legendz]

Latest rumor, eagles lose out on Both Lelie & Duckett

Redskins strike, two blows in one trade, while Lurie counts his pennies :)

Please, because it's a gigantic coup to keep megastars TJ Duckett and Lelie from Philly. Duckett was never coming and I don't fully understand how he fits on the Skins, and I wouldn't have given a 3rd for Lelie, if that is indeed what the Skins gave up.

[Who Del]

Please, because it's a gigantic coup to keep megastars TJ Duckett and Lelie from Philly. Duckett was never coming and I don't fully understand how he fits on the Skins, and I wouldn't have given a 3rd for Lelie, if that is indeed what the Skins gave up.

Rocky Mountain News is reporting this:


"Denver will receive Washington’s first- and third-round picks if the Redskins’ finish with a worse record than the Broncos this season and thus have a higher pick. If Washington finishes with a better record than Broncos they will then get the Redskins’ third- and fourth-round picks."

That can't be true.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4936802,00.html

[Eagles_Legendz]

Rocky Mountain News is reporting this:


"Denver will receive Washington’s first- and third-round picks if the Redskins’ finish with a worse record than the Broncos this season and thus have a higher pick. If Washington finishes with a better record than Broncos they will then get the Redskins’ third- and fourth-round picks."

That can't be true.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4936802,00.html


Something has to be wrong with that, because the Skins will have gotten completely hosed if that's true.

[bubba9497]

Something has to be wrong with that, because the Skins will have gotten completely hosed if that's true.

only a third, several sources

[Oldskool]

only a third, several sources

ESPN is saying the following

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2558101


he Falcons sent former first-round tailback T.J. Duckett to Washington. At worst, the Broncos will receive two draft choices from Washington -- third- and fourth-round picks -- and those picks could escalate based on a complicated formula.

The trade is expected to be announced Wednesday.

Mind you this is Jabba the Len saying this.

[tr1]

Here's the latest rumor: Lurie got caught lounging again...counting his money.

[bedlamVR]

I kep hearing it is just a third which would make sence for a lot of reasons . Could anyone remind me what was the last third round pick (outside Cooley) that stuck. If Eagle fans wouldn't have given up a third for Leile they have some delusions regarding the quality of thier WR corps .

[pointyfootball]

I kep hearing it is just a third which would make sence for a lot of reasons . Could anyone remind me what was the last third round pick (outside Cooley) that stuck. If Eagle fans wouldn't have given up a third for Leile they have some delusions regarding the quality of thier WR corps .

Actually, I posted on the "dealing our picks away" thread the status of all 3rd round picks from the 2004 draft. I picked that draft because if they're going to become a starter it will most likely happen in 2-3 years. Anyway, there were 15 players who are now listed as starters on their teams. Only 2 players who aren't on rosters, 1-2 4th string and 3rd string and about 12 that are 2nd string back-ups.

Here's the starters:

Darnell Dockett (DT)
Nate Kaeding (K)
Nick Hardwick (C)
Stuart Schweigert (S)
Gilbert Gardner (LB)
Randy Starks (DT)
Tim Anderson (DT)
Max Starks (OT)
Bernard Berrian (WR)
Chris Cooley (TE)
Sean Locklear (OT)
BJ Sander (P) as of last year
Tony Hargrove (DE)
Travelle Wharton (OT)
Landon Johnson (LB)

PF

[dockeryfan]

Could anyone remind me what was the last third round pick (outside Cooley) that stuck.
Dock, baby. And he's a starter.
Matt Schaub
Musa Smith
Ricky Manning
All 3rd rounders. Third round is a pretty high pick.

[Who Del]

Good thing this rumor didn't come true. I would be sad to see Mighty Moats go :(

[dockeryfan]

Good thing this rumor didn't come true. I would be sad to see Mighty Moats go :(
Moats isn't that great, Del. Lelie or someone else fast is who you need. And I'm not that high on Lelie. It still would have been good for the Eagles.

[pointyfootball]

Moats isn't that great, Del. Lelie or someone else fast is who you need. And I'm not that high on Lelie. It still would have been good for the Eagles.

We had fast and we traded him to you all for a 5th round pick (Thrash). Of course he's fast on a track, and if he gets bumped off the line by a CB, forget about it, he won't get open.

I haven't watched Lelie enough to comment on him, but bringing a starting WR into a new system 2 weeks before training camp seems a difficult prospect. For atlanta, all he needs to do is run back and forth waving his arms and then start blocking when Vick doesn't see him and takes off like a rabbit.

As for Moats - he might be good/ok, but the game against Seattle last year where he vomited the football in the backfield was awful. I hate rbs that fumble, but hopefully he'll get that behind him.

[JoeSkins]

I haven't watched Lelie enough to comment on him, but bringing a starting WR into a new system 2 weeks before training camp seems a difficult prospect. For atlanta, all he needs to do is run back and forth waving his arms and then start blocking when Vick doesn't see him and takes off like a rabbit.

WCO is WCO. Lelie will be fine. :2cents:

[dockeryfan]

We had fast and we traded him to you all for a 5th round pick (Thrash).
Thrash isn't as fast. Especially not on the field.
And Thrash was a slot receiver for the Eagles a lot of time. Pinkston was the stretch guy.

Again, I'm not high of Lelie. In fact I hope he sucks this year, because I'm sure his production is tied into what we have to give Denver.
But it's almost like the Eagles are just being outmaneuvered here.
Almost like they are conceding this as a year to solidify, not to compete. It's another year of McNabb down the tubes as far as I'm concerned.

[tr1]

Thrash isn't as fast. Especially not on the field.
And Thrash was a slot receiver for the Eagles a lot of time. Pinkston was the stretch guy.

Again, I'm not high of Lelie. In fact I hope he sucks this year, because I'm sure his production is tied into what we have to give Denver.
But it's almost like the Eagles are just being outmaneuvered here.
Almost like they are conceding this as a year to solidify, not to compete. It's another year of McNabb down the tubes as far as I'm concerned.

I agree. Considering Pinky's condition, Lelie would have been a good fit. Maybe they think Pinkston can rebound. Personally, I dunno.

[dockeryfan]

I agree. Considering Pinky's condition, Lelie would have been a good fit. Maybe they think Pinkston can rebound. Personally, I dunno.
Pinkston will not make the team.

[pointyfootball]

Pinkston will not make the team.

I tend to agree. Even if he is the most experienced available, the only other reason was his speed and he doesn't even have that anymore.