On a Positive note tonight

[#284ever]

Cowboys O-Line 1 sack

Jones 15/56
Barber 9/49
Thompson 11/65
Kincade 5/15


Bledsoe 12/17 200
Romo 9/14 111

I say that oline is jellin might nice :applause:

[tr1]

Well, another low life showed up...you're late!

[HeHateMe]

Well, another low life showed up...you're late!

In a very touchy mood tonight tr1.

Something eatin' at ya? ;)

[THEHEREAFTER]

Cowboys O-Line 1 sack

Jones 15/56
Barber 9/49
Thompson 11/65
Kincade 5/15


Bledsoe 12/17 200
Romo 9/14 111

I say that oline is jellin might nice :applause:


The Dallas O-line has looked pretty damn good considering this is our "weakness." I think they'll perform much better than most think.

[bubba9497]

Cowboys O-Line 1 sack

Jones 15/56
Barber 9/49
Thompson 11/65
Kincade 5/15


Bledsoe 12/17 200
Romo 9/14 111

I say that oline is jellin might nice :applause:


too bad pre-season don't count


still 0-0 week 1 :D

[HeHateMe]

On a more important note, the best thing about tonight was that there were no significant injuries.

One more game of that, and I'll be one happy camper.

On a side note, Jason Hatcher really looked good tonight.

[Walking Deadman]

Hey,
Wow the Cowboys had a great game vs the incredible 49ers!!!!
You should be proud.

They'd only beat us in preseason by 3 points. ;)

[THEHEREAFTER]

On a more important note, the best thing about tonight was that there were no significant injuries.

One more game of that, and I'll be one happy camper.

On a side note, Jason Hatcher really looked good tonight.

I saw Kenyon Coleman go down briefly. I'm hoping it was only heat exhaustion? We've been blessed with no major injuries thus far. Hatcher looked great on that sack!

[Ken]

I saw Kenyon Coleman go down briefly. I'm hoping it was only heat exhaustion? We've been blessed with no major injuries thus far. Hatcher looked great on that sack!
Which one? :laugh:

[HeHateMe]

I saw Kenyon Coleman go down briefly. I'm hoping it was only heat exhaustion? We've been blessed with no major injuries thus far. Hatcher looked great on that sack!

Colman left the field under his own power.

He got knocked silly for a few minutes on a helmet to helmet with another Cowboy.

From what Ive heard, he'll be fine.

As for Hatcher, I think he had 2 sacks.

But the first one was against thier starting LT Jonas Jennings.

Blew right by him. Kids got some speed.

A little fine tuning and he could be special down the road.

[#284ever]

I saw Kenyon Coleman go down briefly. I'm hoping it was only heat exhaustion? We've been blessed with no major injuries thus far. Hatcher looked great on that sack!

I think Parcells really wanted Coleman to play for trade bait

[WeownU]

too bad pre-season don't count


still 0-0 week 1 :D


Ahhhhh.....the very last bastion of hoplessness. Reminding people that we all start 0-0.

I must admit, when I heard the score tonight 41-0, the first thought i had was "how is bubba gonna spin this?"

You never fail to dissapoint me bubba.

[WeownU]

In a very touchy mood tonight tr1.

Something eatin' at ya? ;)


HAHAHAHAHA

I started watching the cowboy game late, had it tivo'd, so I just finished a few minutes ago, then I went online to see the rest of the league scores.

Low and Behold, what do I find????? 41-0 whooping of the deadskins.

First thing I did was went and made a cup of coffee. Its going to be a long night of doom and gloom around here, and I don't want to miss a second of it.

[Seabee1973]

No doom and gloom here

[THEHEREAFTER]

Ahhhhh.....the very last bastion of hoplessness. Reminding people that we all start 0-0.

I must admit, when I heard the score tonight 41-0, the first thought i had was "how is bubba gonna spin this?"

You never fail to dissapoint me bubba.


:laugh: :laugh: WOU, the kids got some kind of fight in him huh? Sometimes I don't know whether to respect his undying homerism or just laugh uncontrollably? :(

[WeownU]

:laugh: :laugh: WOU, the kids got some kind of fight in him huh? Sometimes I don't know whether to respect his undying homerism or just laugh uncontrollably? :(


HAHAHA.. You know, I really respect his homerism. I've traveled this world quite extensively, and never seen a homer like bubba. You have to respect it. I mean this guy could go 0-16 and find the silver lining in what would otherwise be a pretty dark cloud.

You just don't find fans like that. Seriously. Back when the cowboys were 1-16, I watched every minute of every game. I didn't care. They were my team, and I was with them through thick and thin. Bubba is the same way. He bleeds burgandy and gold, through and through. You just have to respect that. He couldn't spell fair weather fan, and I love that about him.

All of that said. That still doesn't mean I won't pick on him when his skins lose. But I don't think he'd have it any other way.

[THEHEREAFTER]

HAHAHAHAHA

I started watching the cowboy game late, had it tivo'd, so I just finished a few minutes ago, then I went online to see the rest of the league scores.

Low and Behold, what do I find????? 41-0 whooping of the deadskins.

First thing I did was went and made a cup of coffee. Its going to be a long night of doom and gloom around here, and I don't want to miss a second of it.

:laugh: :laugh: A man after my own heart...

[BIGJoeSalave'a]

Based on the performances of both teams on the field in pre-season so far, the Cowboys is 3-0 and the Dallas Defense looked like all world and OTOH the Redskins is 0-3 and looked so inept, with the latest confirmation being blown out by the Pats for 41-zero.

Assuming that all players are healthy... ...
Questions to the Dallas fans on ES:

- Do you think the Redskins can beat the Cowboys this coming season?

If your answer is ... ...

- Yes, then why??
- No, then why??

[THEHEREAFTER]

HAHAHA.. You know, I really respect his homerism. I've traveled this world quite extensively, and never seen a homer like bubba. You have to respect it. I mean this guy could go 0-16 and find the silver lining in what would otherwise be a pretty dark cloud.

You just don't find fans like that. Seriously. Back when the cowboys were 1-16, I watched every minute of every game. I didn't care. They were my team, and I was with them through thick and thin. Bubba is the same way. He bleeds burgandy and gold, through and through. You just have to respect that. He couldn't spell fair weather fan, and I love that about him.

All of that said. That still doesn't mean I won't pick on him when his skins lose. But I don't think he'd have it any other way.

I've actually seen him give in a little but the trick is that he does it in his own little subtle ways. If you blink you'll miss it. :laugh: I remember going 1-15 too. Man that was my sophmore year in HS and it was BRUTAL!

[WeownU]

- Do you think the Redskins can beat the Cowboys this coming season?

If your answer is ... ...

- Yes, then why??
- No, then why??

In todays NFL, anybody can beat anybody ANY weekend. Now I like my chances against you guys, but I don't care what team you root for, most football games come down to just a few crucial plays here or there that could easily go either way.

I'll leave it at that unless you're looking for a larger breakdown, which I would happily do.

[WeownU]

I've actually seen him give in a little but the trick is that he does it in his own little subtle ways. If you blink you'll miss it. :laugh: I remember going 1-15 too. Man that was my sophmore year in HS and it was BRUTAL!

Yes, now that you mention it, I think I've seen it before. I must admit, I like the loud and boisterous bubba better.

Don't even get me started about high school. I hung around the same buddies in school for 10 years, prior to 1991 (my graduation year) and for 10 years I took crap from all of them because I was a cowboy fan.

Then what happens after I graduate? 1992 1993, and 1995 we win rings. And my buddies are nowhere to be found to harass them. I'm still bitter about that.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Based on the performances of both teams on the field in pre-season so far, the Cowboys is 3-0 and the Dallas Defense looked like all world and OTOH the Redskins is 0-3 and looked so inept, with the latest confirmation being blown out by the Pats for 41-zero.

Assuming that all players are healthy... ...
Questions to the Dallas fans on ES:

- Do you think the Redskins can beat the Cowboys this coming season?

If your answer is ... ...

- Yes, then why??
- No, then why??

CAN it happen? Of course! Everyone knows that the skins will play tough when the regular season starts. Anything can happen including Minnesota beating you guys in weak 1. Do I think it will happen? Honestly, no. While I don't buy into the skins being THIS bad, I do think there are a few slow leaks and causes for concern with your team right now. Dallas hasn't put one of the best players in the league, let alone our team, on the field yet. I just think we have an edge right now as I forecast week 2 but, of course, that's a ways away from now.

[WeownU]

While I don't buy into the skins being THIS bad, I do think there are a few slow leaks and causes for concern with your team right now. .


I agree. I know I've mentioned it, oh, I don't know....maybe a couple hundred time that it takes time to gel when you get a new O coordinator. As good as saunders is, and he is very good, it just takes time. What was it, 700 page playbook? It just takes time for an offense to digest a new system.

Thats one of the reasons dallas has the upper hand. bledsoe's second year in this system, and the Defenses second year in the 3-4.

We're just a better team right now.

I think you'll get it on track at some point. But it may be late in the year, and it may be too late. The biggest concern on you're team in Brunell. And its not even close. You're team has two problems. Depth everywhere, and brunell.

[#284ever]

Based on the performances of both teams on the field in pre-season so far, the Cowboys is 3-0 and the Dallas Defense looked like all world and OTOH the Redskins is 0-3 and looked so inept, with the latest confirmation being blown out by the Pats for 41-zero.

Assuming that all players are healthy... ...
Questions to the Dallas fans on ES:

- Do you think the Redskins can beat the Cowboys this coming season?

If your answer is ... ...

- Yes, then why??
- No, then why??

Here is my opinion why

You guys have to blitz to get any type of pressure on a QB. We now have a TE that already knows the system that will be playing basically the h back position. You LB will be forced to cover our two TE, Your corners are not good enough to consistantly cover TO and Glenn man on man.

Our defense is way better then it was last year, zimmer is alot more confident in the 3-4 scheme. We have done little to no blitzing this pre season and the defense has given up like 5.6 points per game. Our D-line is better then yours, our LB corp is far better then yours. Our corner and safties are on par with yours. Your WR are small and can be bumped off their routes easily and we have seen tonight you offensive line has some problems.

Also you guys brung in a bunch of new WR that are still trying to gel with Brunell and the other QB's and you guys underestimate the time it is going to take to learn Saunders system


PAT WATKINS

[pimpumd]

First thing I did was went and made a cup of coffee. Its going to be a long night of doom and gloom around here, and I don't want to miss a second of it.

I really have no idea why you would tell people this. I mean, having no life is one thing, but broadcasting it over the internet? Probably should have kept that to yourself.

[THEHEREAFTER]

Colman left the field under his own power.

He got knocked silly for a few minutes on a helmet to helmet with another Cowboy.

From what Ive heard, he'll be fine.

As for Hatcher, I think he had 2 sacks.

But the first one was against thier starting LT Jonas Jennings.

Blew right by him. Kids got some speed.

A little fine tuning and he could be special down the road.

I was going back and forth between the skins game so I may have missed the other sack. I like the way the D-line is looking.

[dockeryfan]

HAHAHAHAHA

I started watching the cowboy game late, had it tivo'd, so I just finished a few minutes ago, then I went online to see the rest of the league scores.

Low and Behold, what do I find????? 41-0 whooping of the deadskins.

First thing I did was went and made a cup of coffee. Its going to be a long night of doom and gloom around here, and I don't want to miss a second of it.
The only doom and gloom I feel is for the special teams play. Really.

[HowBoutThemBoys]

Based on the performances of both teams on the field in pre-season so far, the Cowboys is 3-0 and the Dallas Defense looked like all world and OTOH the Redskins is 0-3 and looked so inept, with the latest confirmation being blown out by the Pats for 41-zero.

Assuming that all players are healthy... ...
Questions to the Dallas fans on ES:

- Do you think the Redskins can beat the Cowboys this coming season?

If your answer is ... ...

- Yes, then why??
- No, then why??

Yes, of course. I think that all the teams in the NFC East are talented (even the Eagles) and that any team can beat any other team on any given Sunday. There aren't many teams I'd put big money on for an easy loss -- maybe teams like the Texans, the Jets, the Bills. Put it this way, do I think the Cowboys will beat the Redskins this season? Yes, I think they have a good team -- I'm not sure who's better but I don't think it's clearcut. Would I put BIG money the Cowboys beating the Skins and risk losing it? No way -- and I wouldn't put up money against the Giants or Eagles either. It's just too close to call. I'm encouraged by the play of the Cowboys this preseason -- by the starters and backups. But even if they were to blow out the Jags and the Skins got blown out by the Vikings, I wouldn't bank a win in week 2 against the Skins. I'd feel good about the Cowboys chances, but that's it. If the Cowboys go 7-0, then maybe I'd bet some money on the next game with the Redskins... Nah, probably not. At least it makes every week interesting.

[HeHateMe]

I was going back and forth between the skins game so I may have missed the other sack. I like the way the D-line is looking.

He had a forced fumble too.

[ArmchairRedskin]

I love the fact that Cowboys fans are being lulled into a false sense of security. Kind of reminds me of the first three quarters of week 2 last year. Then, pow!, right in the kisser :laugh:

[Henry]

Seriously guys. Last year you at least waited until you won a regular season game before glowing with over-confidence. Nowadays it only takes a couple preseason games? I didn't realize the level of desperation reached by some in Silver and Blue to find something to gloat about.

Well, enjoy your moment, however worthless it may be. We'll see what's what when the real bullets start flying.

[GibbsFactor]

I'd like to have seen the Skins perform like the Cowboys, I'll at least say that. I know you boy's fans must be gleaming right now. Congrats!

Can't wait till week 2!

[THEHEREAFTER]

I love the fact that Cowboys fans are being lulled into a false sense of security. Kind of reminds me of the first three quarters of week 2 last year. Then, pow!, right in the kisser :laugh:
:kickcan: :snore:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Seriously guys. Last year you at least waited until you won a regular season game before glowing with over-confidence. Nowadays it only takes a couple preseason games? I didn't realize the level of desperation reached by some in Silver and Blue to find something to gloat about.

Well, enjoy your moment, however worthless it may be. We'll see what's what when the real bullets start flying.


No gloating, that would be foolish. Just pleased thus far.

[ArmchairRedskin]

:kickcan: :snore:




Exactly.

[BIGJoeSalave'a]

In todays NFL, anybody can beat anybody ANY weekend. Now I like my chances against you guys, but I don't care what team you root for, most football games come down to just a few crucial plays here or there that could easily go either way.

I'll leave it at that unless you're looking for a larger breakdown, which I would happily do.

Yes, please let us know your larger breakdown starting from defense, special team, and offense. Thanks.

[WeownU]

I'd like to have seen the Skins perform like the Cowboys, I'll at least say that. I know you boy's fans must be gleaming right now. Congrats!

Can't wait till week 2!
This is a classy post. From a fan who obviously "gets it".

Yes, the preseason records and scores don't matter much. Its all about execution. Something we have done very well thus far. Does it mean we will go 16-0? Of course not.

But at least he can admit that he would be excited if the skins were playing this way. It comes across so much more truthful as opposed to Henry saying "enjoy it now, cause its worthless". That just comes across as envious and bitter. I thought you were better than that Henry. :silly:

[WeownU]

Yes, please let us know your larger breakdown starting from defense, special team, and offense. Thanks.

Thankfully, I don't have too. AU Burgandy and Gold just nailed it. A good read if you have the time. I agree with pretty much all of it, except the Jason Campbell part. Granted he knows alot more about JC than i do, but I think the jury is still out.

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=166165

[dent19]

The play has been really bad. dont think that was not to show too much... If so, we're good at it.
Some small positives, but not enough to be smilling right now. Scores, stats, wins, loses, never mattered in Pre-Season. Performance does. Skins have plainly been out performed. Match ups, schemes, and techniques, all seem to have not been important so far. Hoe this changes 9/11......
I'm getting creemed by the Giants players that know im a skins fan.... trying to keep up a good face......
I'm really tired of saying it's Pre-Season.....

[jrockster21]

I say that oline is jellin might nice :applause:

I'd say you were playing the 49ers, minus their two best defensive players from last year. You know, the team we put up 52 points on? Without even trying? Remember that?

Glenn did look good again though...


I just hope that despite all the backpatting and circle-jerking going on in this thread by the Poke fans, you'll all be here September 18th to take your medicine. :)

[jrockster21]

Seriously guys. Last year you at least waited until you won a regular season game before glowing with over-confidence. Nowadays it only takes a couple preseason games? I didn't realize the level of desperation reached by some in Silver and Blue to find something to gloat about.

Well, enjoy your moment, however worthless it may be. We'll see what's what when the real bullets start flying.


Henry, please post in here more often. Nobody owns Poke fans quite like you!! :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[tr1]

But at least he can admit that he would be excited if the skins were playing this way. It comes across so much more truthful as opposed to Henry saying "enjoy it now, cause its worthless". That just comes across as envious and bitter. I thought you were better than that Henry. :silly:

Man, coming from you, this is hilarious.

You guys beat up on the ****ing 49ers for christs sake. Get a grip. I heard they've started boiling the tar and plucking the feathers in Ghirardelli Square. Nolan's bad. Very bad. Just like his team. SF's defense is worse than their offense.

Your offensive line is still bad. You know this as well as I do. You better hope Flo gets well soon. You know that, too.

When you guys come here an gloat about a preseason game against the worst team in the league (though NO might be worse), you look ridiculous.

Do you honestly believe you're going to not have a close game when we meet this year?

Come on. You guys are brighter than that...

[tr1]

Well...maybe not.

[THEHEREAFTER]

I'd say you were playing the 49ers, minus their two best defensive players from last year. You know, the team we put up 52 points on? Without even trying? Remember that?




J-Rock sometimes you just gotta know when to call off the troops. We're just playing our preseason schedule and executing..... happy that were executing in preparation for the season. This rant really sounds tired and lame but I realize that you're frustrated right now. I can't wait for week two either! You'll know where to find me. :)

[THEHEREAFTER]

Your offensive line is still bad. You know this as well as I do. You better hope Flo gets well soon. You know that, too.



Wow, this is really something considering how your O-line did last night against basic 4 man rushes. What was it 7.. 8 sacks? I know, I know... this is what the team wants. To get your QB's destroyed in the preseason right? :no: :laugh:

[tr1]

Wow, this is really something considering how your O-line did last night against basic 4 man rushes. What was it 7.. 8 sacks? I know, I know... this is what the team wants. To get your QB's destroyed in the preseason right? :no: :laugh:

See, you're not honest.

You haven't even admitted that NO and SF are bad teams.

You can't admit that your o-line is still a question mark.

You know TO is a distraction.

You know without Flo you are done.

And you know Romo isn't ready for prime time.

But keep talking about the Skins...

You're not hearing things were not bad last night...but I'd put as much weight in our bad play as an indicator of things to come, as the pukes 'sparkling' performances against inferior teams.

It really is the preseason.

[jrockster21]

J-Rock sometimes you just gotta know when to call off the troops. We're just playing our preseason schedule and executing..... happy that were executing in preparation for the season. This rant really sounds tired and lame but I realize that you're frustrated right now. I can't wait for week two either! You'll know where to find me. :)

Frustrated? Nope. I learn from history...and Gibbs preseason history has told me to ignore it completely; it means less than nothing.

Continue to get excited over executing on the worst team in the league. You know, the one that almost beat you last year and who we stomped lifeless?? Them. The WORST team in the league. In the PRESEASON.

[skinthemboys]

Dallas fans shouldnt be talking to much ****. They know how quickly things can change. Hell, sometimes it only takes 4 minutes.

[Henry]

But at least he can admit that he would be excited if the skins were playing this way. It comes across so much more truthful as opposed to Henry saying "enjoy it now, cause its worthless". That just comes across as envious and bitter. I thought you were better than that Henry. :silly:

Truthfully guy, I am really not worried about the Redskins. At all. God's honest truth.

Wait, yes I am. I'm worried about Portis and Springs and Griffin and Daniels. Yes, those injuries do worry me.

But preseason performance? Nope. Not one bit.

Here's what I said after we beat the 49ers 38-7 in a 2002 pre-season game:

The most important thing to take away from it is that noone got hurt. Be happy with that and don't sweat the rest of it until they start using real bullets.

I never get jazzed or bummed about how we play in the preseason. Never have.

You know why? Because it's worthless. That's not trash talk. It's a fact. A preseason win is worth exactly nothing. Are you actually going to try arguing that point with me? Do you secretly get some special award for beating someone in the preseason? Lemme know, because I never heard that.

Cowboy fans love to talk about how the Redskins are the offseason paper champions. Well, if that's the case, the Cowboys are definately the PREseason champions every year. You guys look sharp as hell in August. You did last year too.

Seriously, aren't you the LEAST bit wary of your offense AGAIN sputtering down the stretch, as it has every year Parcells has been coaching you guys? Or did that not even occur to you before you decided to waltz over here to bask in the glow of Cowboy superiority.

Either way, I didn't think you were better than that. :)

[THEHEREAFTER]

See, you're not honest.

How so?


You haven't even admitted that NO and SF are bad teams.

They're pretty bad teams that we should and did dominate? What's your point? Seattle is pretty good. The Jets are also horrible!

You can't admit that your o-line is still a question mark.

Sure they're still a question mark. I do believe that they're coming together nicely and I'm encouraged from what I've seen thus far preseason or not. I think the demise of our o-line has been greatly blown out of proportion and playing with two TE's has helped the situation.

You know TO is a distraction.

He's very annoying and I grow tired of his antics but I don't think it's fair to say he's been a distraction to the team at this point. I'll hold my judgement until the regular season starts. I still think he can help us win ballgames.

You know without Flo you are done.

I wouldn't say done but, yes, we're definitely better with him in the line-up. Good point.

And you know Romo isn't ready for prime time.

Romo looks spectacular but he won't be starting.

But keep talking about the Skins...

I'll stop when you stop talking about the Cowboys. :rolleyes:

You're not hearing things were not bad last night...

Ohh yes I am. Over 50% of this site is not concerned in the least with your performance last night. "Joe Gibbs does poorly in preseason" "Look at his past preseason records when we did well" "We're vanilla" "It's only preseason" "Look at Al-Saunders past preseason records" "We're hiding everything" "This is Joe's master plan" is what I'm hearing.


but I'd put as much weight in our bad play as an indicator of things to come, as the pukes 'sparkling' performances against inferior teams.

If you think it's all equal that's fine. What about your performance agains an inferior team AT HOME?


It really is the preseason.

Thanks again, I get it. It's preseason for EVERYONE though, not just the redskins.

[bubba9497]

if you're happy about preseason, good for you

You're ecstatic about your OL, that didn't play against Winstom, or taputu (sp?).. or the Seahawk starters after a series or two... and the fact Romo avoided about 6 sure sacks for Bledsoe.. more power to you

and I know the Saints & 49ers scrubs are a true test for any OL, I know everyone of the 49ers DL are better than Big John Henderson :thumbsup:

and just think when the pokes start out 0-2 you can go, but we looked good in pre-season ... AKA the Osaka syndrome :laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

Frustrated? Nope. I learn from history...and Gibbs preseason history has told me to ignore it completely; it means less than nothing.


Yeah, well I guess you most hold on to something right? Well guess what, every preseason is different and I see a few glaring problems with your team. Maybe this will all be fixed in two weeks? So I take it that if you had won last nights game, or your offense demonstrated a pulse, or if you weren't dominated in all three phases soundly then you would not be on course with history huh? So in actuality, you probably feel BETTER about your getting dominated last night since it falls right in line with "history" right? I think I'm starting to follow. :rolleyes:



Continue to get excited over executing on the worst team in the league.

We're in the preseason just like everyone else. It's preseason. We play our preseason schedule. I'll analyze our most recent preseason game just like every fan of every team except for redskins fans.. :laugh: I have a question for you J-Rock. Did you even watch last nights preseason game? If so why? Why would any redskin fan even watch any preseason game? :) I suppose just to confirm that you're absolutely stinking up the joint in all aspects of the game staying on par with Gibbs "history." :thumbsup:

[skinthemboys]

You should go ahead and chalk week 2 up as a win. Cause damn wouldnt that be strange if IT happened again.

[THEHEREAFTER]

if you're happy about preseason, good for you

I'm happy about sharp crisp execution, lack of mental mistakes, encouraging signs all around, developing a good #2 QB, developing sound depth and dominating inferior opponents WHILE STILL playing "vanilla" on both sides of the ball. You know, all the things you look for in the preseason. Since I can't predict the future, all I have to go on are camp/practice reports and preseason games. I'll evaluate the regular season when the time comes. What are you happy about Bubba? :( Wait a minute, I know. Gibbs always does well when his teams perform poorly from top to bottom in the preseason so your right on track right? Everyone starts with a clean slate in less than two weeks. 0-0!


You're ecstatic about your OL, that didn't play against Winstom, or taputu (sp?).. or the Seahawk starters after a series or two... and the fact Romo avoided about 6 sure sacks for Bledsoe.. more power to you

I could care less who suits up for the opposition. This is football. Have you noticed anyone missing from our line-up? I'm evaluating MY team. I think our O-line has looked decent thus far considering they're our "achilles heel." You on the other hand, you should sleep well knowing that you have mighty "dirtbags" protecting Brunnell. :thumbsup: *cough*overrated*cough*



and I know the Saints & 49ers scrubs are a true test for any OL, I know everyone of the 49ers DL are better than Big John Henderson :thumbsup:

Preseason is the same for everyone. We'll play our schedule one game at a time just like every other team. :)

and just think when the pokes start out 0-2 you can go, but we looked good in pre-season ... AKA the Osaka syndrome :laugh

Once again, Osaka was your comedy of errors and hype. Bill Parcells and Steve Spurrier are not the same! :nono:

[jrockster21]

Yeah, well I guess you most hold on to something right? Well guess what, every preseason is different and I see a few glaring problems with your team. Maybe this will all be fixed in two weeks?

Please elaborate.

We're in the preseason just like everyone else. It's preseason. We play our preseason schedule. I'll analyze our most recent preseason game just like every fan of every team except for redskins fans.. :laugh: I have a question for you J-Rock. Did you even watch last nights preseason game? If so why? Why would any redskin fan even watch any preseason game? :) I suppose just to confirm that you're absolutely stinking up the joint in all aspects of the game staying on par with Gibbs "history." :thumbsup:

Actually, no I didn't. The two usual places I go to watch preseason games weren't showing it because of the UFC fight (UFC is huge out here). Painfully enough, I had to switch between the Poke game and the Jaguars. Which is how I know how the Pokes faired against the worst team in the league.

My only point is that the Skins aren't playing these games to win. They're playing these games to see how players respond to certain situations. bobzmuda had the best breakdown of the Skins game I've seen in the Stadium; read that and get back to me. The Cowgirls beat the 49ers -- congratulations. We'll see how you fair against a good defense week 1. Personally, I think Jax is gonna beat you. :whoknows:

[WeownU]

Seriously, aren't you the LEAST bit wary of your offense AGAIN sputtering down the stretch, as it has every year Parcells has been coaching you guys? Or did that not even occur to you before you decided to waltz over here to bask in the glow of Cowboy superiority.

Either way, I didn't think you were better than that. :)


No more worried about our offense struggling down the stretch this year than you should be with your offense struggling down the stretch last year.

The difference is, our offense looks good this year. Yours does not.

Seriously though. Put yourself in my postion for a second. I hear Redskin fan talk trash the entire offseason about Bledsoe, Romo, and our O-line. And what happens after the first 3 games? 2 sacks, 2 quarterback ratings over 120, and a first string offense that has scored on like 75% of their possesions.

All these games don't really matter, I'll give you that. But you can't tell me that being beaten the way you have in the last 3 games isn't the least bit worrysome. If you say it doesn't bother you a little, you are in the .00001 minority.

Minnesota won't be a pushover this year. And you have us in week two. With the level of execution so far, maybe you aren't panicking yet, but I bet Gibbs and company are. They just won't let on.

Remember, Gibbs came out last week and tried to fire up his troops, and look what he got back. 41-0 Something tells me they ain't listening to him.

[bubba9497]

I'm happy about sharp crisp execution, lack of mental mistakes, encouraging signs all around, developing a good #2 QB, developing sound depth and dominating inferior opponents WHILE STILL playing "vanilla" on both sides of the ball. You know, all the things you look for in the preseason. Since I can't predict the future, all I have to go on are camp/practice reports and preseason games. I'll evaluate the regular season when the time comes. What are you happy about Bubba? :( Wait a minute, I know. Gibbs always does well when his teams perform poorly from top to bottom in the preseason so your right on track right? Everyone starts with a clean slate in less than two weeks. 0-0!

Again GOOD FOR YOU :laugh: sometimes dreams do come true



I could care less who suits up for the opposition. This is football. Have you noticed anyone missing from our line-up? I'm evaluating MY team. I think our O-line has looked decent thus far considering they're our "achilles heel." You on the other hand, should sleep well knowing that you have mighty "dirtbags" protecting Brunnell. :thumbsup: *cough*overrated*cough*

gotcha, looking good against scrubs = good against starters :thumbsup:

how can you be overrated in pre-season... see me about that cough after week 2... I think it will be cleared up by then, but you maybe sick on your stomach :D





Preseason is the same for everyone. We'll play our schedule one game at a time just like every other team. :)

an everyone is 0-0 week one


Once again, Osaka was your comedy of errors and hype. Bill Parcells and Steve Spurrier are not the same! :nono:

once again you purposely miss the point.... preseason hype, is preseason hype.... and poke fans have it bad

see the thing is, when the pokes start out o-2, you can't say the regular season don't matter ;)

[bubba9497]

No more worried about our offense struggling down the stretch this year than you should be with your offense struggling down the stretch last year.

The difference is, our offense looks good this year. Yours does not.

Seriously though. Put yourself in my postion for a second. I hear Redskin fan talk trash the entire offseason about Bledsoe, Romo, and our O-line. And what happens after the first 3 games? 2 sacks, 2 quarterback ratings over 120, and a first string offense that has scored on like 75% of their possesions.

All these games don't really matter, I'll give you that. But you can't tell me that being beaten the way you have in the last 3 games isn't the least bit worrysome. If you say it doesn't bother you a little, you are in the .00001 minority.

Minnesota won't be a pushover this year. And you have us in week two. With the level of execution so far, maybe you aren't panicking yet, but I bet Gibbs and company are. They just won't let on.

Remember, Gibbs came out last week and tried to fire up his troops, and look what he got back. 41-0 Something tells me they ain't listening to him.



not even you believe that dival :laugh:

Enjoy your preseason, reality hits in 2 weeks, the truth in 3

[THEHEREAFTER]

Please elaborate.

It's basic execution. Brunnell is not looking confident, comfortable or crisp out there. It's blocking, basic execution and the fact that your 1st string defense is getting manhandled. It's also the pattern throughout the entire preseason. I also stated that you may correct these issues before the start of the season. Who knows?



Which is how I know how the Pokes faired against the worst team in the league.

Does it somehow make you feel better to continuosly state that the 49'ers are the worst team in the league? Do you really feel that I think we just won the SB? This just makes you sound really insecure IMO. :2cents: Not that it matters, but I'm willing to bet that the 9'ers improve this year. Norv Turner will get something out of Alex Smith, Frank Gore, Antonio Bryant and Vernon Davis amongst others IMO.

My only point is that the Skins aren't playing these games to win. They're playing these games to see how players respond to certain situations.

Ding Ding Ding! Damn near every team shares this philosophy. Why do you ignore this? BP has a reputation for placing players in difficult situations and personnel experimentation in the preseason.



bobzmuda had the best breakdown of the Skins game I've seen in the Stadium; read that and get back to me.

I saw every play of your game and I've formed my own opinions but I'll read it anyway. :)


The Cowgirls beat the 49ers -- congratulations.

No need to congradulate because I realize it's preseason. I guess this type of smug, defensive retort makes you feel better? :(


We'll see how you fair against a good defense week 1. Personally, I think Jax is gonna beat you. :whoknows:

Jax is damn good, they'll be playing at home and I respect that opinion. Honestly, I don't know if Minnesota has quite enough to beat you guys at home although I don't believe they'll be a cake walk.

[THEHEREAFTER]

gotcha, looking good against scrubs = good against starters :thumbsup:

Preseason is preason for everyone. Our first, second and thirds against theirs. Man to man. Vanilla vs. Vanilla.

how can you be overrated in pre-season... see me about that cough after week 2... I think it will be cleared up by then, but you maybe sick on your stomach :D

I know, everything is right where you want it Bubba. No concerns. :no: :thumbsup:

I bet you didn't know fans of opposing teams are allowed to read your game threads huh? You know, true honest reactions in the heat of the moment.



see the thing is, when the pokes start out o-2, you can't say the regular season don't matter ;)

Ohhh, so I can't run, duck, spin, hide and spout BS excuses like you've been doing the past few weeks? O.K., I'll make a note of that. :thumbsup:

[bubba9497]

Ding Ding Ding! Damn near every team shares this philosophy


then how can you get excited about about looking good against a poor team, that was purposely calling plays to be difficult, instead of trying to win? :doh:

BTW Bill is from the Lombardi school of pre-season... play to win, play second and third string but call plays to win. He would never go for a fourth and 4 in the first quarter near mid field to see how a certain player or players would respond., or keep the same defense on several plays in a row, even though the other team keeps completeing the same pass over the middle time and time again....Things even the most casual of fans can see, just for evaluation or training purpose.

I watch two of the Pokes pre-season romps, I'd be highly surprised if Bill hadn't gameplanned for them. He had a lot of chocolate syrp, nuts, whipped cream, sprinkles, and a cherry on the vanilla play calling :rotflmao:


but again enjoy your preseason hype..er wins. :laugh:

[bubba9497]

Preseason is preason for everyone. Our first, second and thirds against theirs. Man to man. Vanilla vs. Vanilla.

yeah your starting OL against the Seahawk scrubs, Romo played the entire game... has your #3 QB even taken a snap yet? again I watched two of the games...



I know, everything is right where you want it Bubba. No concerns. :no: :thumbsup:

I bet you didn't know fans of opposing teams are allowed to read your game threads huh? You know, true honest reactions in the heat of the moment.

well tell you what go back through them with a fine toothed comb, and find just one.. that's all one post where I posted anything of worry or concern about any of the pre-season games... please waste... take your time and double check... I will give you ten dollars if you can :thimbsup:

don't confuse me, and most intellegent fans with some teenage bandwagoin jumper... you spin sounds tight but as most of your points, in reality it doesn't hold water




Ohhh, so I can't run, duck, spin, hide and spout BS excuses like you've been doing the past few weeks? O.K., I'll make a note of that. :thumbsup:

whose ducking anything.... say it with me .....Pre-season doesn't count

just because your ego is so wrapped up in the pokes success you can't understand why myself and several others are not concerned about pre-season... means little to me. come the regular season when it counts... I will be right here, will you :laugh:

[THEHEREAFTER]

then how can you get excited about about looking good against a poor team,

Excited? Says who? I'm encouraged sure but I've been around long enough that the games don't count yet.

BTW Bill is from the Lombardi school of pre-season... play to win, play second and third string but call plays to win. He would never go for a fourth and 4 in the first quarter near mid field to see how a certain player or players would respond., or keep the same defense on several plays in a row, even though the other team keeps completeing the same pass over the middle time and time again....Things even the most casual of fans can see, just for evaluation or training purpose.

This is where you're dead wrong. I think that you're right in that BP wants to win anytime a score is being kept but he's also known for experimentation and putting players/units in difficult positions. In doing this, he also wants his team to experience and practice real game management. In other words, he wants to practice winning.

I watch two of the Pokes pre-season romps, I be highly surprised if Bill hadn't gameplanned for them. He had a lot of chocolate syrp, nuts, whipped cream, sprinkles, and a cherry on the vanilla play calling :rotflmao:

BP will be a HOF coach. Please excuse me If I side with him vs. the CEO of all media from extremeskins.com.. :(


but again enjoy your preseason hype..er wins. :laugh:

I'll study tape tonight and tommorow, then get mentally prepared to evaluate our next preseason opponent. :laugh: The Minnesota Vikings. A great opportunity for you to scout your first two real opponents. Of course, BP will show you everything he's got planned for week two. :cool:

[THEHEREAFTER]

yeah your starting OL against the Seahawk scrubs, Romo played the entire game... has your #3 QB even taken a snap yet? again I watched two of the games...

Once again, I have no concern for who the other team lines up. We play our schedule and the other 11 on the other side of the LOS. BP has decided to get a long look at our #2 QB. What's your point?



well tell you what go back through them with a fine toothed comb, and find just one.. that's all one post where I posted anything of worry or concern about any of the pre-season games... please waste... take your time and double check... I will give you ten dollars if you can :thimbsup:

Ohh, but of course I didn't actually mean you. You're never concerned. I was actually speaking of other redskins fans.

don't confuse me, and most intellegent fans with some teenage bandwagoin jumper... you spin sounds tight but as most of your points, in reality it doesn't hold water

Why would you openly insult the intelligence of many of your fellow fans that do have concerns from what they're seeing?





whose ducking anything.... say it with me .....Pre-season doesn't count

just because your ego is so wrapped up in the pokes success you can't understand why myself and several others are not concerned about pre-season... means little to me. come the regular season when it counts... I will be right here, will you :laugh:

I'll ask you what I asked J-Rock. Did you watch the game last night? If so, why?

[Henry]

No more worried about our offense struggling down the stretch this year than you should be with your offense struggling down the stretch last year.

Five straight 100 yard rushing games and five straight wins isn't struggling. In any sense. The Cowboys under Parcells are 6-9 over their last five games of the season. The Redskins under Gibbs are 8-2. We play our best ball in December. You play your worst. But hey, at least you can say you look good in the preseason. :)

The difference is, our offense looks good this year. Yours does not.

No. Your offense doesn't look anything this year. They haven't PLAYED this year. This isn't quite as silly as talking about a scrimmage, but it's close.

Seriously though. Put yourself in my postion for a second. I hear Redskin fan talk trash the entire offseason about Bledsoe, Romo, and our O-line. And what happens after the first 3 games? 2 sacks, 2 quarterback ratings over 120, and a first string offense that has scored on like 75% of their possesions.

I've been in your position. I posted exactly what I said in your postion. Was anyone injured? No? Good game.

But I understand you are so desperate for vindication you will cite games that don't count at this point. My suggestion to you is wait until they actually play some real games before declaring victory. That would have been a good policy last year, but quite a few Cowboy fans ignored it then as well. At least last year Cowboy fans had a win streak over us and a nice regular season showing to back their trash up. Now apparently they've downshifted to scrimmages and preseason games. Forgive me for not cowering.

All these games don't really matter, I'll give you that. But you can't tell me that being beaten the way you have in the last 3 games isn't the least bit worrysome. If you say it doesn't bother you a little, you are in the .00001 minority.

I'm worried about our injuries. If Portis misses significant time we're in trouble. Other than that, nope, don't care about some preseason game. Never have. Never will.

Minnesota won't be a pushover this year. And you have us in week two. With the level of execution so far, maybe you aren't panicking yet, but I bet Gibbs and company are. They just won't let on.

With all due respect, you have not one CLUE as to what Gibbs is thinking.

Remember, Gibbs came out last week and tried to fire up his troops, and look what he got back. 41-0 Something tells me they ain't listening to him.

Last week Sanders came out and said we were running 2% of the offense. Something tells me you ain't listening to him.

[bubba9497]

Once again, I have no concern for who the other team lines up. We play our schedule and the other 11 on the other side of the LOS. BP has decided to get a long look at our #2 QB. What's your point?

you know my point, but play dumb :thumbsup:... I'll play along :)



Ohh, but of course I didn't actually mean you. You're never concerned. I was actually speaking of other redskins fans.

sure, you were... at least you're staying in "character" (see above) :laugh:




Why would you openly insult the intelligence of many of your fellow fans that do have concerns from what they're seeing?


I didn't insult anyone, I stated facts don't confuse the two... but even chicken little band wagon fans, are smarter than Poke fans :)





I'll ask you what I asked J-Rock. Did you watch the game last night? If so, why?

the ultimate "Well Duh" question :doh:

Why do fans attend PRACTICE? because the Redskins were playing, even if it was pretend football, I watched the scrimmage, I watch the press conferences, I watch the updates, I listen to XXX ESPN redskin Lunch, and The Riggo Show... I have Redskins on my Tivo wishlist & set to automatically record. Added interest in last night to see Duckett, to see who was playing when, and see who might or might not make the team.... why do you watch the pokes? :rolleyes:

[tr1]

Well, judging by preseason, you'll crush Houston and Detroit. I'd give you Arizona, but you play them there.

Ouch.

Sep 10 @Jacksonville 4:15pm
Sep 17 Washington 8:15pm
Week 3 BYE
Oct 1 @Tennessee 1:00pm
Oct 8 @Philadelphia 4:15pm
Oct 15 Houston 1:00pm
Oct 23 N.Y. Giants 8:30pm
Oct 29 @Carolina 8:15pm
Nov 5 @Washington 1:00pm
Nov 12 @Arizona 4:15pm
Nov 19 Indianapolis 1:00pm
Nov 23 Tampa Bay 4:15pm
Dec 3 @N.Y. Giants 1:00pm
Dec 10 New Orleans 1:00pm
Dec 16 @Atlanta 8:00pm
Dec 25 Philadelphia 5:00pm
Dec 31 Detroit 1:00pm

[Riggo#44]

Ah the official overreaction to the Preseason thread...I heard 41-0 over the radio and didn't really care. Really, I fully expected the Cowboy fans to come on here and j-each other off over not giving up sacks to the 2nd team DLs of the 9ers and Saints. Way to go. If they stop Hendersont and Stroud in Wk 1 - THEN I will give them credit.

It's really laughable how excited some of the Cowboy fans are getting - and laughable how depressed some of the 'Skins fans are getting. I just don't care about the preseason. I am not ready to proclaim the season a wash or a winner based on the freakin' preseason.

Oh and before WeownU, #284Eva (I just thought it was nice for a Cowboys fan to honor Darrell Green, really pays homage to one of the greats. Too bad he's a know nothing troll) start getting to amped up, I noticed a little stat this morning:

Gibbs is 6 for 6 in making the postseason after horrible showings like this one. It's a fact.

Enjoy the preseason, after this week, it won't matter.

Did you see that? That just happened, that was real!

[Jethrodsp]

:wewantd:

Yeah, thats right...I think Al and the guys have something special lined up for week 2.

Check the ES buffet line after the game for all you can eat "Cowboy Crow."

Hail.:point2sky :logo: :helmet:

[WeownU]

Five straight 100 yard rushing games and five straight wins isn't struggling. In any sense.
.

Brunell didn't have a 200 yard game from week 10 on. I'd say thats struggling.

You're offense last year was atrocious late last year. And if you don't see the correlation between that and the last 3 preseason game, then there is no help for you.

Keep drinking the kool-aid and telling yourself "Its only preseason"

[Riggo#44]

Keep drinking the kool-aid and telling yourself "we look great in the preseason"

So...if the Skins "struggled" down the stretch and won 6 straight games (including the playoff win) and the Cowboys finished 2-4, what does that tell you? I know there is some kind of convoluted logic in there somewhere.

[Birdlives]

Considering how poorly Brunell played last preseason. Considering they were short three crucial defensive starters and one all-pro Runner. Considering at least 50% of what the Skins are running in practice isn't being run in games. I don't see why people should jump off a cliff.

At the same time of course most Skins fans would like to see better execution. I didn't get to watch alot of the game, but what I did see, which was the starters part of the game they didn't look that bad. They executed a few plays well, stopped the Pats on a 3rd and short. Could they be better? Of course they could. Should we fold up the season? Of course not. I expect the Skins will be okay in the long run and probably do well this year, same expectations I've had since January. And you'd better believe I'll be keeping this thread on tap in the event that the Skins beat Dallas week 2 and look good. I'll also be here to take my lumps if they start out by losing some games.

In the end it's still preseason. I've seen plenty of teams look like world beaters in Pre and come out and flop. Just as many teams looked soft and came into the regular season to win their divisions. Quite frankly we're all just football fans. Who can really tell what the hell is going to happen come regular season time? All I do know is it'll be one hell of a ride either way.

[Titaw]

My question to all the cowboy scum on this board is why do you come here? Don't you have a board where all of the Brokeback nation can gather and circle jerk? I guess you come here to show the true colors of Brokeback nation, lowlife scum, plain and simple.

I myself cannot wait to throw all of this pre-season "success" back in your face at the end of the season when the Cowboys are at home watching, AGAIN! And the Skins are playing in Miami!

[dfos81]

Considering how poorly Brunell played last preseason. Considering they were short three crucial defensive starters and one all-pro Runner. Considering at least 50% of what the Skins are running in practice isn't being run in games. I don't see why people should jump off a cliff.


In the end it's still preseason. I've seen plenty of teams look like world beaters in Pre and come out and flop. Just as many teams looked soft and came into the regular season to win their divisions. Quite frankly we're all just football fans. Who can really tell what the hell is going to happen come regular season time? All I do know is it'll be one hell of a ride either way.

50% of the plays, Al has come out and said, he's only used 2% of his 700 page PB.

So Cowboy fans are happy we haven't done anything in preseason :applause: . I'll be laughing in there faces when wk2 rolls around again, and this time, I'll ask, what about our preseason record? :laugh:

I guess they don't look at the big picture. Al & Gibbs are notorious for not winning in preseason. But Gibbs seemed to stumble into 3 superbowl rings w/ only 2 preseason wins during that time span.
Why is that?
Can Dallas fans actually give me an explanation for that?
I guess we need to throw in the flag and forfit the whole reg. season b/c of our struggles during preseason. :silly:

Come hoping that we'll be as bad as we look in preseason and then after wk2 meet us back here at ES, b/c we know the Ranch will be getting BURNED DOWN. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :dallasuck